the first lesson from what happened in mosul? tie: first lesson is if from what happened in mosul?ion. there is no way to avoid that in a dense modern city where the enemy is fanatical and holding hostages. find city where the enemy is fanatical and holding hostages.— city where the enemy is fanatical and holding hostages. and in terms ofthe and holding hostages. and in terms of the populations _ and holding hostages. and in terms of the populations that _ and holding hostages. and in terms of the populations that we - and holding hostages. and in terms of the populations that we are - of the populations that we are looking at, it's a similar size of population and mosul to the people living in the southern part of gaza at least. 50 living in the southern part of gaza at least. 9 , ~ at least. so western mosul where most of the _ at least. so western mosul where most of the fighting _ at least. so western mosul where most of the fighting happen - at least. so western mosul where most of the fighting happen is - most of the fighting happen is with the same size as gaza city, where th

what lessons can be learned from what happened in mosul? you're going to try and take the entire city down to the last block, you are going to have an extraordinarily high level of civilian casualties and tremendous level of devastation. there is no way to avoid that in a dense city where the enemy is fanatical and holding hostages. rajini: in terms of the populations we are looking at, it is a similar size of population in mosul to the number of people in the southern part of gaza at least. >> western mosul, where most of the fighting happened, it is about the same size of gaza city, which is where the israelis are going to be concentrating, at least the first part of their offensive. it has a similar number of people. for comparison, it took 180 days to clear west mosul, and well over half the housing stock in the city was destroyed. rajini: when we talk about urban warfare and some of the challenges, you have been writing about some of the things that could be challenging as the israeli fighters go door-to-door to houses. just expla some

20 times harder than mosul for a variety of reasons. you have like you said, the mines. al qaeda had ieds and efps. they didn't have the mine fields. they didn't have the subterranean fight that they could duck into. they didn't have high-rise buildings. the highest building in mosul was like i think 6 or 7 stories. so all of those things compound the fight when you're talking -- oh, by the way, they didn't have close to 2.5 million people in mosul that were the citizenry of the city and al qaeda for the most part was not using them as human shields, and they also didn't have 229 hostages. so when you try and compare fallujah or mosul to what's going to happen in gaza, there is no comparison at all, and i'm telling you that from a guy who commanded forces in an urban environment. it's just going to be so much tougher. >> and we're obviously seeing some very large explosions, one after the other in gaza right now. before we let you go, colonel, general hertling, let me ask you, the other factor in this, which is different than perhaps in

the on the outskirts of mosul is a place known locally as most of them, meaning contaminated, the war against the so called as lum exchange lift launch areas of the city in ruins. then a new line of work, a matched scrap collection. many of those who seek through the rubble looking for anything of value, a children the 6 years after the disease of the highest terrace creve nozzle is still far from a comfort to see children working here and across the rock is nothing you sons and daughters have always helped their families during the summer break or after school the but the will added a new dimension. many of these children no longer have parents to take care of them . and many have had to drop out of school. the oil exports means that a rock is extensively a relatively rich country. the ramp and corruption and mismanagement means hardly any of that wealth trickles down to poor communities. the as a result, 90 percent of parents and guardians in most will have reported at least one of the children works the every day their children toiling away here and meet the debris and copy each th

to some former military officers who were in iraq, when asked about the comparisons to fallujah or mosul, they say they think what israel is or has a ahead of it in gaza city is even more complicated what the u.s. faced in fallujah and mosul because of the civilian population. >> i think that's an accurate s assessment. hamas is better equipment. long time to work at the problem and they're going to present a multidimensional threat to idf when they come in, you'll be fighting on the surface of the earth, fighting underneath the surface of the earth and in the elaborate tunnel system that they've had decades to perfect. hamas is going to be flying small drones over israel. the israeli air force will be on top to provide precision fire. it's going to be a hard go. accurate to say this will be one of the most difficult urban combat problems. one more observation when you get into an urban environment many of the technological advantages are erased because you're at very close range with your opponent. you'll be fighting room to room, up and down stories in a single building, it's going to

against isis in 2016-17. , ., fighting in mosul against isis in 2016-17. ,., ., fighting in mosul againstect _ 2016-17. tell me the sort of tactics you would expect if _ 2016-17. tell me the sort of tactics you would expect if we _ 2016-17. tell me the sort of tactics you would expect if we would - 2016-17. tell me the sort of tactics you would expect if we would see i you would expect if we would see that ground move from the israeli forces, what would you are expected in response from hamas? they have the tunnels, they will have prepared forjust the tunnels, they will have prepared for just such the tunnels, they will have prepared forjust such a scenario in the quite closely planned attack that this was. yes, so i would expect the israeli defence forces to operate at... inaudible that would be 120—150 troops, supported by heavy armoured vehicles, supported by tanks and armoured bulldozers and they will look to combine their effect across domains. they will look at air power to strike at hamas command and control centres. they will use cyber effects to disrupt their ability to communica

mosul, closer however isis had a year. they've had 15 years. possible, the idea of going in and uprooting hamas given the scale of the preparations, the tunnels, how they operate, the civilians? >> well, you don't want to say it's not possible. but what you do want to do is look at the objectives. so, when you go in there on a professional level, i'm sure general is going to say, now, what are the objectives? what are you going for? you're going for the enemy. but how are you going to get to the enemy? are you going to take key terrain. what's the key terrain, the power plant, what is it and how do you go from one piece of key terrain to the other? when you go into an urban area, you have to secure not only -- you have to advance but you have to secure your lines of communication and your rear. and you somehow have to get into this tunnel network. so, it could be enormously difficult. >> about that key question that general petraeus raised as -- at the launch of the iraq war, what's the end game? have you heard any -- >> well, you know when we

m mosul still had some civilians, although far fewer than are in gaza. and there were civilian casualties in that fighting. but the way that the u.s. and iraqi forces went about clearing mosul reduced those casualties using special forces and targeted air strikes. if you go in with a big, heavy ground invasion, as the israelis might be planning, then there's going to be a lot of death and destruction in the path of the advance. and if civilians are in those buildings, as they're assaulted, a lot of of them are going to die. >> and so is that the idea of more limited incursion with special forces? is that something you would recommend in a situation, given the number of hostages and the civilian population still there? >> well, there's a marine three star general in israel right now who's probably recommending that course of action to the israeli defense forces, to do it the way we did it in mosul. but there's a drawback to that. it takes longer. and there's a calculation that the israeli government needs to make. how long is the world community going to

people are comparing the flight to gaza or mosul or fallujah, and what do you think of the comparison? >> they are inadequate. this is vastly more challenging. the enemy has had many months to prepare here. they will face snipers, suicide bomber, and again, 300 miles of tunnels, and they will use the hostages as human shields, and they will use civilians as human shields as well. they don't wear uniform, and the high-rises are substantial. and if the mission is, and i believe it is and should be, to destroy hamas, and they are intending to dismantle the political wing, that is entering every building and clearing every room, floor, cellar and making sure that the enemy cannot infiltrate behind you, and doing it aggressively, and it takes an enormous infantry to do this and tough casualties, because at a certain point, you have toter the room, and system of thom will be explosive layden, and the israelis are trying to set conditions that are more advantageous by going after some targets than others, and on the hamas side, and including taking these political wing leaders, which means t

copy each the the how available for the home on the union of a province in general in the city of mosul, especially paid the highest price many years after 2003. while this was due to the rise of the terrorist groups, a kind of any alarm extinct said the heading out of high via, uh, apply the uh most, some uh, though it is near by the end of today i've been attracted all aspects of life in our city to put them a positive hey, i didn't beginning the world off this house on all across the rocks are in a very tough situation that all of the problem. well me, well, i see i'm the war and terrorism. i've got so many children and most so lost their parents and became more things that y'all have a couple of the many no longer have providers, so many are homeless. we double in the be them, or they may say that a little the situation is extremely difficult. it's changed what it means to be a child, to terrorist groups and to completely transform the city what they found and also is sick, but god willing, the city will never die. it's still standing to know what to do. i'll go anywhere. and con th

, in will say when americans fought in mosul, in iraq, there will say when americans fought in mosulsul, in iraq, there were over 100,000 civilians that got caughtin over 100,000 civilians that got caught in a crossfire and got killed . and i'm not justifying killed. and i'm notjustifying that, but i'm saying this is part of the free world fighting against those barbaric terrorism. and we need to make sure that, first of all, we're trying to make innocent palestinians safe and the second thing is israel is fighting now the most cruel and barbaric terror organisation. and this is the time for people to call hamas . don't prevent from your hamas. don't prevent from your people to go and find a shelter because the israelis allow and you are the one who getting them killed . killed. >> what's your advice to jews in britain today? should they should they be hiding symbols of their star of david, their faith? the star of david, for well, is the for example? well, this is the job the police to instruct job of the police to instruct jews in london. >> to all my jewish >> but i call to all my

mosul is a city about the size of gaza city. it took nine months for the iraqi security forces to clear all of mosul with our direct assistance. it puts it in perspective as well as identifying the potential for regional escalation. that's why we have two carrier task forces either out there or a second on the way. additionally, heightened protection. >> one of the through lines in your book that i think is so critical then and now especially is this -- you've got good leaders have to get the big ideas right. >> yes. >> you say it starts with getting the big ideas right, failing to do that typically dooms what follows. if you were sitting down with netanyahu right now, how would you talk to him about the big ideas? >> he has laid out what i think one big idea is, but it's only one and there needs to be several more. one is destruction of hamas. again, entirely understandable. need to do that. but the military has to acquaint him, this is how hard this is going to be, how many casualties we are going to take, they are going to ta

that on one expects is something in nature perhaps at scale slightly different to what happened in mosul on a rock up which was an investment of the city and then essentially a, an entry into the city. in this case, part is really focuses dock wellness. that's necessarily involved extensive civilian casualties. because of course their opponents will be very well prepared. let's talk a little bit about the scale of the is really response is real on monday called up and unprecedented 300000 reserve us. where are you expecting them to be deployed to? are they all going to be sent into the guys or because the fear is that a large operation in gaza could leave it's northern border, vulnerable. there are reports of skirmishes, artillery fire with has bullet. there is a great question. they will not be able to pull it to guys, it is due and we are interrupting that interview because we see that the us secretary of state antony blinking is really permitted to benjamin netanyahu are seeking following their meeting. and israel, let's have a list. my good friend, tony. thank you for your important

and others — at least in terms of advice and intelligence — went into mosul to try to destroy islamicet to street, house to house, room to room and there, there were a high level of civilian casualties and there was vast destruction. it's hard to see how it can be otherwise in urban warfare, hence the insistence of the americans to — and the united nations and so many other voices who are standing by israel as to say you must get people to safety. except in gaza, there's nowhere that's safe and the gazans can't get out. lyse, several writers in the british and american newspapers and, actually, in the french as well, whom i respect, are talking about the possibility that this could really spread, could start to take in iran — and iran's got friends in china and russia. what's your feeling as you stand there? is that a possibility? lebanon on israel's northern border, syria in the north as well, they have other scores to settle with israel and also, they are standard bearers for the palestinian cause. if there are shocking scenes, heartbreaking — even more heartbreaking than now — comi

and others — at least in terms of advice and intelligence — went into mosul to try to destroy islamicstreet to street, house to house, room to room and there, there were a high level of civilian casualties and there was vast destruction. it's hard to see how it can be otherwise in urban warfare, hence the insistence of the americans to — and the united nations and so many other voices who are standing by israel as to say you must get people to safety. except in gaza, there's nowhere that's safe and the gazans can't get out. lyse, several writers in the british and american newspapers and, actually, in the french as well, whom i respect, are talking about the possibility that this could really spread, could start to take in iran — and iran's got friends in china and russia. what's your feeling as you stand there? is that a possibility? lebanon on israel's northern border, syria in the north as well, they have other scores to settle with israel and also, they are standard bearers for the palestinian cause. if there are shocking scenes, heartbreaking — even more heartbreaking than now —

>> mosul fight was a -- my folks it was a 9-month fight for the iraqi forces to take mosul back fromt. this is the most, one of the most densely populated areas in the world right now. 2 million people living in gaza even though your previous reporter said some number of them migrated south, it's still one of the most densely populated areas in the world. this will be a long fight. it will be for the iraqi forces -- excuse me, the israeli forces, it will be psychologically draining. you will never, you will never be able to find an off switch and rest for a minute because the enemy is 360 degrees all around you. so it will be very intense. it will be a long fight. i think it's very important that israel having been bloodied and embarrassed on the 7th of october, two weeks ago, needs to have some early initial success and maintain the momentum of what they want to do. griff: and let me, lastly, ask you with, general, we're seeing signs up on the lebanon border, hezbollah looking that they are going to get more and more involved particularly once the idf goes into gaza. how much will t

and i think the first thing to say is fighting in cities, we saw this in mosul, so it's a situated.he event of a mission that gets expended is increased, the human suffering goes up. so everything gets accentuated. and the iraqi forces are not necessarily a match for the israeli forces were they did have a global coalition supporting but it took them nine months to clear through mosul and they begin that battle with 100,000 troops. a uk police officer who incited more than 200 young girls to send him explicit pictures and videos of themselves over snapchat has beenjailed for life with a minimum term of 12 years. lewis edwards groomed the girls, who were aged between 10—16, and forced them to send him indecent images that he secretly recorded and used to blackmail them. our home affairs correspondent daniel sandford reports from cardiff. are we going to find evidence of you engaging in sexual communication with children? no comment. when he was arrested back in february, pc lewis edwards refused to answer questions about his campaign of unspeakable cruelty against girls as young as t

at the pentagon, many officials believe the mosul clearing operation in iraq, carried out more than 10ears after fallujah, is the best model for urban warfare. in general, something terrible comes to mind : if mosul in 9 months is from 9 to 11,000, then right now the gas sector in the last 2 weeks, not in 9 months, in 2 weeks, is according to official information there are already 6.000, what will happen when they finally start? please, i would also remind you about the syrian city of raqa, yes, the terrorist group islamic state and its headquarters were located there, but there were many civilians there, and i remember very well what moscow then offered to the americans in a good way, let’s remember this is also the case, and i was in syria then and i know well that our command proposed this plan, in which case the number of civilian casualties would have been much less, no, the americans refused, refused, why, because of their selfishness, arrogance, because they have laurels, nobel peace prizes everywhere, and then it turns out like a bull in a china shop, and even worse, but rememb

isis out of mosul with our iraqi and kurdish partners. what was that -- what were the lessons you learned there that apply here? >> everybody should know and does know that urban combat is extremely difficult. it's -- it goes at a slow pace. >> jonathan: that was nine months. nine months of intense combat. >> yes. this may be a bit more difficult because of the underground network of tunnels that the -- that hamas has constructed over time, and the fact that they have had a long time to prepare for a fight. so i think you'll see a fight that's characterized by a lot of ieds, a lot of booby traps and a lot of grindy activity going forward. one of the things we've learned is how to account for civilians in the battle space, and they are a part of the battle space, and we in accordance of the law of war, we've got to do what's necessary to protect those civilians and as i've talked to minister gallant and others, i've encouraged them to conduct their operations in accordance with the law of war. >> jonathan: i want to ask you, we heard some

employed in mosul, in 2016, when they were trying to drive isis out of that city.t was led by special operations forces, drones, air strikes. a much more deliberate operation. the u.s. trying to encourage the israelis to move forward with as clear objective, clear strategy. that's why one of the key u.s. military advisers in israel right now is this marine corps three-star general, general glenn, who has a lot of experience in urban warfare and combat. he's been among the leading advisers to the idf, as they prepare this operation in gaza. it remains unclear at this point, whether israel is heeding this advice. the sentiment across the biden administration is that they're going to likely launch some kind of full-throated military operation in gaza because that is what israeli public seems to want. they're doing everything they can to make sure not only that they do this deliberately and with a clear strategy. also, they have an exit plan. the u.s. does not want to see them undergo a prolonged occupation of the gaza strip. >> yeah. the day after. and the day after t

mosul, which was reportedly the headquarters of i.s.i.s.n iran, 2 million people, about the same size as gaza, i.s.i.s. had a lot of time to prepare itself, dig in, as did basically hamas. it took months with the support of american operations forces, with the support of the american air power, and basically destroy things in mosul. it gives you an idea how long these operations would take. the israelis face multiple thing, humans, tunnels, various forms of ieds, the fact that hamas has had years to prepare for this, bobby traipse, you name it. on the other hand, they have an advantage. the main thing is if you're an advanced military, a lot of your advantages are not on your side. you know, think about the americans in fallujah in 2004. it was a very tough fight. so this could go on for months chld and then i think the protests will continue as this conflict continues. >> peter bergen, always good to have your insight. >>> still ahead, the biden administration is requests $405 million from congress in order to provide security assistance t

in in mosul. they know what it's like to go in on the ground.— to go in on the ground.the last 24 hours. the _ to go in on the ground. in the last 24 hours, the americans - to go in on the ground. in the last 24 hours, the americans have - to go in on the ground. in the last| 24 hours, the americans have said they want— 24 hours, the americans have said they want to make sure their forces around _ they want to make sure their forces around the — they want to make sure their forces around the region are protected. and they want— around the region are protected. and they want to make sure every effort is made _ they want to make sure every effort is made to— they want to make sure every effort is made to release hostages. hamas have said _ is made to release hostages. hamas have said already that 50 hostages have said already that 50 hostages have been— have said already that 50 hostages have been killed, presumably being held in— have been killed, presumably being held in the kind of tunnels. we heard — held in the kind of tunnels. we heard yocheved lifschitz talk about

. —— mosul. it is a counter_ difficulty. —— mosul.— difference between isis and hamas is isis's legitimacy in the local_ hamas is isis's legitimacy in the local population is questionable at best, certainly at that— questionable at best, certainly at that stage of the operation. acre _ at that stage of the operation. acre won _ at that stage of the operation. acra won by and large remains nonuian — acra won by and large remains popular. individual fighters are picking up guns and fighting. are picking up guns and fighting-— are picking up guns and fighting. are picking up guns and fiuuhtin.~ �* ., ., ., fighting. we're going to take a look now at — fighting. we're going to take a look now at that _ fighting. we're going to take a look now at that united - fighting. we're going to take a| look now at that united nations resolution because the un approved a non—binding resolution, calling for a humanitarian truce in gaza and it came hours just after israel defence forces announced the expansion of the ground operation. this is the momen

to israel to talk about their own experience when they conducted such urban warfare in iraq and in mosulsure their lessons learned would be passed on. we also know in the past week or so, there was some progress on releasing hostages and certainly, the white house wanted to take advantage of any window of opportunity to get more hostages out, figuring that once a major ground invasion occurred, that would be more difficult. and you also mentioned the efforts of the un to talk about a humanitarian ceasefire. the americans don't support a ceasefire, they say hamas will benefit from a ceasefire, but they have been increasing their support for what they call humanitarian pauses and working very hard to try to get more humanitarian aid into gaza. so as long as the major operation, ground operation held off, they were working hard to do that, as well as to get american palestinians out of gaza. so they had a lot of things they were trying to do while waiting for this invasion to happen. i should add to that of course, the very real concern that this will end “p very real concern that this will

we saw that in fallujah and in mosul. in each of those cases there were corridors that allowed many civilians to leave before the bulk of the military action. this is a different circumstance here because the civilians blocked even at the egyptian border from coming out. they can't come out via the israeli border. what's to be done from a military perspective to prevent further civilian casualties, or to minimize those casualties? >> good evening, jim. you're right. in mosul operations that took place there against isis, there were some limited humanitarian corridors. isis was exactly allowing them to leave in droves, but the humanitarian corridors were, in fact, there. it is a dilemma. ideally between israel, the united states, the rest of the world, working with egypt and getting egypt to open up the rafah crossing point, that would be very, very helpful so the united nations and other entities can provide aid to civilians moving from the north to the south of gaza and into egypt. >> as you watch the progress of this ca

and iraqi forces undertook in mosul, you know, house by house. there was not the large civilian population in fallujah that there is in gaza city and there was not the presence of some 200 plus hostages. >> that's exactly right. the hostages weren't there. fallujah was a tenth of the size of gaza with a tenth of the population and the u.s. planned the operation for six months before we went in. we had a communication plan, information plan, deception plan, logistics plan, everything staged, and it was still, treemly difficult. about 90% of the population left. there's one key difference between what the u.s. did in fallujah and mosul and what the israelis may be intending to do here. we tried to free the city from the terrorists. we wanted to get them out. they wanted to stay, but we left an opening for them when it got too tough, they could flee. we could still accomplish the mission. here the mission assigned by the prime minister is to destroy hamas, and that means, they don't -- israel doesn't want them leaving to go somewhere else. they want

air force and the special forces advising on the ground to extripate the forces from mosul, and so this in gaza is not going to be over in matter of days. >> peter bergen, thank you for coming on. >>> and the house republicans are about to head to the house floor, and does jim jordan now have enough support or enough momentum maybe. to win the position of house speaker and the major negotiations going on around capitol hill. that coming up next. >>> and he is is a fit young man still, and very strong. he is very proper opinions about the country and loves our country, and would serve you well. i think that he will be confirmed some time soon. >> young and strong and proper opinions is donald trump just now outside of court in new york throwing his support behind jim jordan with regard to who will be the next speaker of the house. moments from now, the house members are heading to the floor to once again try to fight this out in public, but a big question is does jordan have the votes now, and the momentum this time to get enough votes to win. >> let's find out. cnn's manu raju is on cap

can you execute even the highest intensity and we saw this in mosul fights and there was a battle over hospital in which the iraqi security forces had to use white for forrous which became international media attention to cover the movement of a attack where isis was using a hospital as one of their refuges. it is possible but it increases the risk to much more civilian casualties if they stay in the environment when this battle actually starts. it has started. we're in the early phases of it. >> yeah. and hamas is going to use civilians as a human shield, that is part of the reason why they said they didn't want people leaving the northern part of gaza. and adding to that complexity, you also have this extensive tunnel system around gaza. that -- that is going to be a problem i imagine. >> that is -- what we're seeing, to me, as a student of all majorushab battles, isn't historical. we've seen this before. but the levels of preparation, the decades of tunnels underneath gaza city and others, it is not just connecting the house to here. but i mean they go deep and deep into the earth a

residents of the region observed in 2016 during, in fact , the assault on carpet bombing of iraqi mosult what was prohibited in our country in russia and throughout the world by an islamic state, on the other hand, of course, it was a pursuit that was reminiscent of the last stages of the second world war, for a very long time the west did not open, as we know, a second front, and then they set about take berlin first, no to allow the storming of berlin by soviet troops, in the sixteenth year the story with isis was banned was the same, uh, which means that the russian aerospace forces supporting the syrian army were practically exterminated, and this organization in syria was the possibility that it was the actions of russia and syria that would lead to to the fact that isis will lose its position in iraq, then the western coalition begins to bomb iraq , begins to bomb mosul, which at that moment was also a city with more than two million people, this continued for several weeks, and people died innumerable, thousands of people died, few people talked about it, and - not only those who

result of that, you face a real dilemma, as general petraeus again said, they have a sign on their mosul headquarters saying, you know, our actions today, killing more bad guys than they're creating. and if you just keep that idea in mind, the politics of this, the longer-term consequences of this, i think the israelis are smart. they have dealt with this for a long time. they have rarely wanted to do something this big. in the past, they would always do very targeted operations. so in a sense, what president biden is telling them is remember -- you know, remember what your own strategy and tactics have been over the last 30 or 40 years. >> right. well, and i mean that leads me to this question that erin and i have been discussing with our various guests, and we can talk about it. we keep talking about this large-scale ground incursion being imminent. it's been imminent, i guess, for two weeks now, and we were just looking at a live picture of gaza a few moments ago. it's as quiet and as silent as it possibly could be. what do you suppose is going on? do you think there's a delay going o

assault on gaza, austin predicts it will be a tougher fight than the 9-month fight against isis in mosul this may be a bit more difficult because of the underground network of tunnels and the fact that they've had a long time to prepare for a fight if. so i think you'll see a fight that's a characterized by a lot of ieds, a lot of booby traps and just really grinding activity going forward. >> reporter: austin is also rushing in t. l.a. d. and patriot ballistic missile systems, no doubt a sign of how seriously they take that ballistic missile threat from iran, and all nonessential personnel have been ordered to evacuate and go back to the united states. gillian: that travel warning is now a four for the country. lucas tomlinson in tel aviv, thank you. mike: israel's prime minister saying that the hamas conflict is, quote, do or die for israel. also issuing a stern warning to ez hezbollah. joining me thousand live in studio is israeli special envoy for combating anti-semitism. mihal, welcome. >> thank you. mike: so you have argued that humanitarian aid should be based on some conditions.

were doing part of the process to take mosul back from isis. a lot of the things that i saw on the ground there are exactly what i see the israel setting up to do here. they are planning on a slow, methodical press. looks like they'll start from the north and move to the south. what you are seeing is lots of basically clearing of zones of operation, clearing attack paths. i've seen some mine sweepers coming in to get rid of the mines set there. basically setting up an operation when they're ready, the israelis, they'll start moving house to house clearing everything from hamas. >> harris: we're seeing some of the equipment change, too. doing those mini raids last week where they go in on the ground for a short period of time. take out targets and retreat a bit. now they are pushing farther into gaza toward gaza city. we'll see armored tanks. what else can we anticipate at this point? >> those are reconnaissance enforcement trying to paint a better intelligence picture so you know what your following forces will face so they'll clear any obvious

forces in northern iraq, that means of course you were in mosul. is that worse?aaron. there were a couple of fights and i was involved in one of them in 2007, eight. from our command and fought for several months along with five divisions of iraqi forces. this is a tough fight. and they don't compare in terms of relative enemy action. in most all, we had al qaeda in 2007 and 2008. they were in the city in and out of the city ingress and egress. they did not have the kinds of supplies that hamas has. they didn't have the underground tunnel extensive network ÃÃthey didn't have as many citizens as our in gaza 2.2 million. they didn't have the two or three years to prepare for an invasion into the city of mosul. they just went in and started fighting. so this is going to be exceedingly tough for the israeli army. exponentially tough for them than what we ever faced. >> that's a sobering reality exponentially tougher. general hodges, heidi think is really forces are dealing with the tunnels in these ground assault on gaza? i mean, if you're floating thousands there to

accentuated, the metal trips, casualties, suffering, weaponry to stop when we lined up to liberate mosululated gaza strip is. 9000 people per square kilometre in the red bit. is. 9000 people per square kilometre in the red bit-— in the red bit. that's about double the population _ in the red bit. that's about double the population density _ in the red bit. that's about double the population density of- in the red bit. that's about double i the population density of manchester and people say it's one of the most densely populated place on earth. ln densely populated place on earth. in terms of hamas's advantages, is their home turf and their fortifications.— their home turf and their fortifications. ., ., , , fortifications. the defender always has the advantage. _ fortifications. the defender always has the advantage. it's _ fortifications. the defender always has the advantage. it's their - fortifications. the defender always has the advantage. it's their turf, l has the advantage. it's their turf, their streets, their buildings. in gaza, there is an incredible network of tunnels that a

as well, the expertise which the united states of america about used in falluja or in north iraq in mosul in attacking the iraq to put it to put the experience and to lead the ground, all of that came to what last night, they managed the with massive... bombardment before a frighten is you know never ever anybody heard of such nasty bombardment like happened last night in gaza and the before it especially in and then ghaza and suddenly netanyahu comes in his press conference half an hour ago and say let it landjin because there has forces which is amount to over 35000 soldiers around the ghaza strip and right from damascus when she said they only train to chase kids in the west bank and taught the palestinian people in the west bank they couldn't face feel resistant they don't have the morality like the people who own the right on the land to push the equipiers and those people who are with limited resources under bloccade for 17 years not even toilet papers not allowed to enter in gaza and they managed to manufacture an underground military system. to to push back the united states of am

destructive than other urban wars we have seen in the past, be it america in vietnam or the iraqi army in mosul. . well, footage of hamas militants has appeared on the internet again demonstrate. its arsenal of anti-tank weapons, the interesting thing is that mostly in the frame it is the american anti-tank systems that most likely arrived in palestine from afghanistan, well, probably from ukraine. the consequences of kiev’s military assistance throughout the world will not be forgotten very soon, because even after the end of the conflict, war and weapons with ukraine, it will continue from time to time , as they say, to emerge, not only to emerge, but also to work against the countries that produced it, but also unexpectedly from donald trump, donald suddenly blamed russia stealing from the us, as he said, a super cooper rocket that flies super fast and super far. according to him, the theft of classified super-duper drawings occurred during the obama administration, after which moscow created that very, i quote donald, super-duper missile, the united states has still not been able to. at the

>> this is going to be more difficult than either fallujah or mosul.n those instances, the united states had pretty much control of the skies and they had could bomb to their heart's content because the civilians had need fallujah, and in mosul, isis was confined to the innercity. so we could bomb the cities and destroy them. here, the israelis have not all fled. and they're obliged to abide by laws of warfare. but they have to be commensurate with the military gains in line with battle. this is battle-to-battle opinion, as u.s. goes in with the ground forces and palestinian civilians start taking the brunt of the military operations. >> that's interesting. that's sort of the cal calculation, if that's the awful right word to use which is shooting, killing a certain civilian, if they are in the line of fire of somebody else who has a military value to them? i mean, who makes -- these are calculations being made by soldiers in the field in the heat of battle, correct? >> no, they have to be made really at the very top. to begin with. i'm reminded of the

marines as well the expertise which the united states of america brag about used or in north iraq in mosul and attacking the iraq to put it to put the experience and to lead the ground in gaza all of that came to what last night they manage with massive bombardment before that if you know never ever anybody heard. of such nasty bombardment like what happened last night in the ghaza and the night before especially in and then ghaza and suddenly netanyahu comes in his press conference half an hour ago and say limited land and because there has forces which is amount over 35000 soldiers around the ghaza strip and my colleague right from damascus she said they only train to chase kids in west bank and torture the basilian people in the west bank, they couldn't face real resistance, don't have the morality like the people who own the right on the land to push the ocers, and those people who are with limited resources underblocade for 17 years, not even toilet papers not allowed ghaza, they to manufacture an underground military system to to push back the united states of america's latest techno

senior military advisers to share our lessons and the experience in iraq and fallujah and most of -- mosulisis. what we are doing to emphasize the importance of a leaving meeting -- of alleviating the mentoring and suffering going on in gaza and the st bank. not well, but the u.s. has historically been the largest single donor to support the palestinian people from both humanitarian assistance as well as security asstance in the west bank. i think it is important that we continue to emphasize the rules of law as it goes to warfare, but also to do all we can in speaking with israel certainly, but also the broader international community to alleviate humanitarian suffering that is occurring in gaza specifically. >> there have been reports u.s. media that the biden administration has been urging israel to delay any ground incursion into gaza. more time for hostage negotiations is the presumption. you think that is happening or ought to be happening? >> there is certainly dialogue occurring. while there is ongoing discussions and negotiations and we have seen they just reportedly released four

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