no, sir. >> is this the an mpd-authorized restraint technique? >> knee on the neck would be something that does happen in use of force, unauthorized. >> and under what circumstances would that be authorized? how long can you do that? >> i don't know if there's a time frame. it would depend on the circumstances at the time. >> which would include what? >> the type of resistance you're getting from the subject you're putting the knee on. >> and so if there was, say for example, the subject was under control and handcuffed, would this be authorized? >> i would say no. >> you can take that down, please. >> continuing in this defensive tactics presentation, if you could go back to exhibit 119, page 56. you also teach officers the proper handcuffing techniques, is that right? >> yes, sir. >> and according to the handcuffing techniques, the handcuffs are to be handcuffed behind the back, and the handcuff is to be double locked. >> [inaudible] >> sure. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> we're going to take our morning break. let's rec

sir, do you recognize exhibit 276 as being mpd's critical decision making model? >> yes. >> offer exhibit 276. >> no objection. >> 276 is received. >> permission to publish. we heard about the model now we can actually see it. if you can enlarge the graphic, please. all right, so this is what the model looks like. it's sort of a wheel, is that right? >> yes. >> and the first stage of the critical thinking model, decision making model is information gathering? >> yes. >> explain that please. >> it's very vital. we rely upon trying to gather as much information as possible so that we can try our best to effectively go in and respond and manage that situation. trying to gather as much information at the onset is very important, but we also need to make sure that we're continuing to try to gather as much information as we're dealing with the scene or the call. >> i see the arrow points in two directions and one it points to the middle of the circle and employs-- and trust and the other to risk assessment. let's talk about the middle of the circle first. what is that m

sir do you recognize exhibit 276 as being mpd's critical decision doing making model? offer exhibit 276. >> no objection. >> permission to publish. we heard about the model. now we get to actually see it. if you could enlarge the graphic, please. so this is what the model looks like. it's sort of a wheel, is that right? >> yes. >> and the first stage of the critical thinking model, decisionmaking model is information gathering. >> yes. >> explain that, please. >> it's very vital. we rely upon trying to gather as much information as possible so that we can try our best to effectively go in, respond, and manage that situation. trying to gather as much information at the onset is very important, but we also need to make sure that we're continuing to try to gather as much information as we're dealing with the scene or the call. >> i see the arrow points in two directions, and one it points to the middle of the circle, voice neutrality, respect, and trust. and the other arrow points to the threat or risk assessment. let's talk about the middle of the circle first. what is t

. >> how long have you been with mpd? >> since 1996. >> could you share your educational background? >> yes, sir. i have a four-year degree from the university of north dakota in criminal justice studies. >> what we're? >> i graduated in '95. >> and after you graduated from the university, did you get a job in law enforcement right away or did you go elsewhere? >> i was hired from the minneapolis police department in 1996 and joined the minneapolis police academy. >> describe your academy experience. >> i was a cadet, so we did a combination of police academy along with college courses to qualify for the minnesota test. >> did you take and pass the p.o.s.t. test? >> yes, sir. >> licensed police officer. >> wait just a bit so you don't talk over each other. >> after you completed your course work with the academy did you go into a field training program? >> yes, sir. >> how long were you in that program? >> i believe it was about four months at that time. >> and then you received your first assignment as a police officer,

. >> and you indicated she had been employed by mpd for 24 years? >> approximately 24 years yes. >> could you please share with the jury your educational background? >> i received my bachelor in psychology and criminal justice. i received a message degree in psychology and my doctorate in general psychology. >> when did you complete your doctorate? >> i complete that back in 2014. >> when you start come after you started with mpd did you go to the academy? >> yes, i did. >> described that experience. what you did you start? >> i i started the academy as a cadet in september -- actually september of 1996. i had to take additional college courses goes of the cadet program and from the cadet program i went through the academy. >> after you complete the course work did you enter the field training program? >> yes, i get. >> how long were you in the program. >> i believe approximate five or six months. it's been a long time ago. >> after you complete your field training what we should first assignment? >> i was assigned to, if my memory serves me, probab

but i also firmly believe in l mpd and the city of louisville. and we've got this.e metro council, david james. >> good afternoon, everybody. i too welcome this opportunity to have the attorney general of the united states look at the patterns and practices of l mpd. i think our officers at l mpd really want to have the very best police department in the country. and i think our citizens want to have the very best police department in the country. but i think there has to be some cultural change that takes place in order for that to happen. and i think that chief shields is doing a fantastic job. however, as she said, i think that she needs some help to get that done. i think having the federal government coming and look at what we have going well and what we don't have going so well is very important. and i don't think that it's any secret that we have a police department that has some troubles. but we also have a pomlice department that has some of the best plovrz in the country. i look forward to this and welcome it. the metro council welcomes it. i know our poli

. >> how long you have been with mpd? >> since 1996. >> i'd like you to tell the jury a little bit about yourself. could you share your educational background? >> yes, sir. i got a four year degree from the university of north dakota in criminal justice studies. >> what year? >> i graduated 1995. >> okay. and after you graduated from the university, did you get a job in law enforcement right away or did you go elsewhere? >> no, sir, i got hired from the minneapolis police department in 1996 and joined the minneapolis police academy. >> describe your academy experience. >> i was a cadet. we did police academy and college courses to qualify for the minnesota test. >> did you take and pass the post test? >> yes, sir. >> license peace officer? >> wait a little bit so we don't talk over each other. >> yes, sir. >> after you completed your course work, did you go into a field training program? >> yes, sir. >> how long were you in that program? >> i believe it was about four months at that time. then ghot your first assignment?

>> yes, if i could display mpd policy 370. emergency medical response under roman one, you see the purpose of the policy is to lay out in writing the roles and responsibility's of minneapolis police department employees, incidences involving medical emergencies. >> yes. >> if we look at the policy itself under roman to, does that explain what a minneapolis police officer is supposed to do when they come upon a medical emergency or medical emergency developing on a call? >> yes. >> what are they supposed to do? >> while awaiting ems, assisting individual having an acute medical crisis shall provide any necessary first aid consistent with mpd training practices. >> that presumes they are waiting for ems or emergency services, is that right? >> correct. >> would it be fair to say it's two parts, officer has to request ems or ambulance, correct? >> yes. >> while waiting for the amulets, they are required to provide what medical training skills they have to help save the person. >> correct. >> our minneapolis police provided narcan

in fact, is a risk and that they're being threatened, they would look at the authority back to the mpd policy and procedure manual. is that right? >> yes. >> under what is the use of force policy, what tools are available to me to respond here? >> yes. >> okay. the next step then after considering the authority to act, goals and actions. what is that? >> the goals -- the officer's making an assessment, so with the authority act, will an arrest resolve the situation? will separating the two parties be enough? is -- is taking a report, will that be enough of a goal or an action? it may mean a combination of things. it may mean that i'm going to have to or the officers are going to have to make an arrest, but we may need additional resources here because the situation is still -- could have the potential to not be stabilized. so all of that is part of that goals and action. >> and then to review and reassess. assuming that means exactly what it says. >> exactly. yes. information's going to flow, dynamics can change. and so it can be a constant just review and assess -- reassess the situat

does mpd train how to do that with the leg? >> they show the younger officers in the academy what that looks like. we do not train leg and neck restraints, as far to my knowledge. >> how would a trained neck restraint work? sorry, how would a trained leg neck restraint work? >> people that watch mma, professional fighters, they call it the triangle choke and mostly that is just what it's called that's when you place your legs on somebody's back across the site of their neck and a trap their arms of the person ends up having one arm in and their arm causes pressure on one side and the leg causes pressure on the second, and you can actually render somebody unconscious if you hold it that long. >> what part of the leg? >> the inner thigh. >> so in this scenario, using a leg to do a neck restraint, would the need to replace the elbow in terms of placement? or how would you describe it? >> i would say the knee doesn't really replace the elbow. cryour thigh would be across the side of somebody's neck y and yr leg across the back. and

. >> are you aware the use of the maximal restraint technique is guided and governed by mpd policy? >> yes, sir. >> and that is 5-316? >> that is correct. >> is there more than one device that's authorized to perform the maximal restraint technique? >> i believe right now it is just the ripp hobble is the one that we use. >> and so, if an officer reasonably believes that the subject is thrashing, would you recommend that they use the maximal restraint technique to ensure their safety? >> yes, sir. >> and if they do so in accordance with mpd policy 5-316 in your training, what is the officer needing to do after the subject has been placed in the mrt and is prone? >> placed them in the recovery position. >> how soon? >> as soon as possible. >> why? >> when you further restrict their ability to move, it can restrict t their ability to breathe. .. >> the environment can change? >> yes sir. schleicher: are you familiar with minneapolis the critical thinking model. >> yes or. schleicher: that is a graphic, rephrase. >> is a critical thinking model of graphical representation a different c

describe the various roles you had for the mpd. >> started in 1993. startedth on the street as a 911 responder. six years as 911 responder and transferred over to public housing as a public housing officer and from there i went to the fourth precinct with community response team member involved as a street-level narcotics investigator. i did that 22 years. >> were you on duty may six, 2019? >> yes i was. >> did you have an opportunity to review various police reports and body worn cameras from an incident on that day? >> yes i have. >> on that date approximately just before 5:00 o'clock p.m. did you execute a traffic stop on a red ford explorer? >> yesr i did. >> did you approach the passenger-side? >> yes i did. nelson: describe very briefly the initial interaction you had with these passenger of the vehicle. >> i approached the passenger-side. passenger window was down. i gave the individual commands several times. the passenger was unresponsive and noncompliant to my commands. and then had to physically reach in because i could not see his hands. i

>> neckry s restraint, no, sir. >> is this an mpd authorized neck restraint? >> knee on the neck is not someth something -- is something that's authorized. >> for what length of time? >> the type of resistance you're getting. >> if there was, say for example, the subject was under control and handcuffed, would this be authorized? >> i would say no. >> let's go outside of that courtroom. how did the defense cross-examine this police training expert? >> this was a day that we've seen where the defense made a lot of ground up. the last few days it's been devastating hearing from senior officers talk about how the actions of derek chauvin did not comport with department policy, but you did see the defense eliciting information that would likely help their case. the witness we just heard from is the use of force expert who talked about looking at images of chauvin holding down george floyd and that was not within department policy but one exchange where the defense asked him if you ever seen a case where someone claims to be in medical distress and they're actually

. >> and you indicated you've been employed by mpd for 24 years. >> approximately 24 years. >> could you share with the jury your educational background? >> i received my bachelor degree in psychology and criminal justice. masters degree and psychology and doctorate in dental psychology. >> when did you complete your doctorate? >> i completed it back in2014 . >> and when you started, after you started with mpd and you go through theacademy ? >> i did. >> describe that experience. >> i started the academy as a cadet in september, actually september 1996 . i had to take some additional courses because of the program and from the cadet program i went to the academy . >> after you completed coursework did you enter the field training program? >> yes i did. >> how long? >> i believe it was five or six months. >> after you completed your field training what wasyour first assignment ? >> i was assigned if my memory serves me i believe i was assigned to downtown. after i finished my field training. >> as a patrol officer often mark. >> as a patrol officer. >> how long did you serve before be

>> that is correct. >> but nonetheless mpd response? >> do you know approximately how many calls for service the minneapolis police department receives annually? >> usually a couple hundred thousand and then we also have officers that we categorize as self-initiated activity. so that could mean an officer happens to be driving through a neighborhood and see something and reports on the radio that they're going to look into it. so it's a combination but it's a lot of calls. >> and generally people talk all the police department to say hey, everything is going great, just wanted you to know. they have something they want you to do. >> exactly, yes. >> it sounds than like it's fair to say there's more to policing than just going out and arresting people. you provide a broad spectrum of policing services to the community. >> yeah, i would actually say the actual law enforcement part is probably 30 small compared to most of the types of calls at our offices are being called to address and deal with, yeah. >> so we attached on police training

>> that is correct. >> but nonetheless mpd response? >> yes. >> do you know approximately how many calls for service the minneapolis police department receives annually? >> usually a couple hundred thousand and then we also have officers that we categorize as self-initiated activity. so that could mean an officer happens to be driving through a neighborhood and see something and reports on the radio that they're going to look into it. so it's a combination but it's a lot of calls. >> and generally people talk all the police department to say hey, everything is going great, just wanted you to know. they have something they want you to do. >> exactly, yes. >> it sounds than like it's fair to say there's more to policing than just going out and arresting people. you provide a broad spectrum of policing services to the community. >> yeah, i would actually say the actual law enforcement part is probably 30 small compared to most of the types of calls at our offices are being called to address and deal with, yeah. >> so we attached on police

>> yes, if i could display mpd policy 370. emergency medical response under roman one, you see the purpose of the policy is to lay out in writing the roles and responsibility's of minneapolis police department employees, incidences involving medical emergencies. >> yes. >> if we look at the policy itself under roman to, does that explain what a minneapolis police officer is supposed to do when they come upon a medical emergency or medical emergency developing on a call? >> yes. >> what are they supposed to do? >> while awaiting ems, assisting individual having an acute medical crisis shall provide any necessary first aid consistent with mpd training practices. >> that presumes they are waiting for ems or emergency services, is that right? >> correct. >> would it be fair to say it's two parts, officer has to request ems or ambulance, correct? >> yes. >> while waiting for the amulets, they are required to provide what medical training skills they have to help save the person. >> correct. >> our minneapolis police provided narcan

how long did mpd retain the training records? >> seven years. once we have them they will be the syllabus they will be put in the drive but the paper archived by down to a central location in the city. schleicher: for seven years. >> correct. schleicher: these areo the records we have for this particular individual going back through 2003. exhibit 203 the defendants training records. >> yes. schleicher: permission to publish. if you can scroll up and highlight the first record entry. you can see these records are organized in a way that generally labels the course to give various states with the start date and the end date for the participants. >> correct. schleicher: a total number of continuing education credits. >> yes. schleicher: i want to back up to the records. just for example take a look at what is labeled here. 2019 annual training. that section. so you can see with these records it's listed as 2019 annual in-service training and refers to phase three. what is annual in-service training? >> itth consists of three phases of training. th

. >> after serving this period of time as a patrol officer what was your next position at mpd? >> i believe in 1997 i was then promoted to the rank of sergeant in the minneapolis police department. >> what do you have to do to be promoted to the rank of sergeant? what are the requirements? >> it is a civil service test that you take, and you have to successfully pass that, and receive a grade for that. and i'm trying to recall if there was an assessment center that was also part of that testing process. but there is a number of years that you have to at least have served as a police officer before you can take the sergeants test and promotion. >> and what is the role of a sergeant in the minneapolis police department? >> sergeants role, and i've often said it is the most influential role in the police department. >> how so? >> it's most influential because you have the most proximity to the men and women who are out there serving in the community. you're there for them say roll calls, you are a mentor, you give them guidance. they are going to see you far often than they would

>> that is correct. >> how long has this been policy of mpd? >> since may of 2016. >> thank you. >> you may take that down. >> sir, are you familiar with the concept of de-escalation? >> yes. >> what is de-escalation? >> de-escalation is providing a knowledge base or skills, in this case for officers to really focus on time options and resources. it's real little primarily trying to provide an opportunity to stabilize a situation, to de-escalate it, and with the goal is having a safe and peaceful outcome. and so that's -- there's tools associated with that, but that's really the goal of de-escalation, time, options and resources so we can stabilize the situation safely and successfully. >> when you think of de-escalation are you thinking of it as the opposite of using force or part of using force? >> we teach it as both. >> and when you started with the department back in 1989, was there an emphasis on de-escalation? >> it was not mentioned. >> when did de-escalation start becoming more of a topic of conversation in law enforcement communities?

schleicher: mpd has a code of ethics. >> yes. schleicher: that is contained within the policy manual. forgive me we will talk a lot about the policy manual. the code of ethics please display 215. page two. highlight. and as a code of ethics provide the policy manual law enforcement officers has a fundamental duty to serve mankind and safeguard life and property protect the innocent against deception, against oppression and intimidation. >> that is correct. schleicher: minneapolis police department also has a professional policing policy. at a high-level what is professional policing in this context? >> our professional policing it is about treating people with dignity and respect above all else. if wee see each other as necessary, we value one another. it's treating people with the dignity and respect they deserve. schleicher: exhibit 215. drawing your attention to page number four. is his professional policing policy? >> yes it is. >> the first bullet reads be courteous. respectful, polite and professional. schleicher: then read

>> in -- >> how long does mpd retain the records? >> the city retains records for seven years so once we have them, we'll keep this in our workforce director and some training syllabuses and training documents are put on an archive and at some point brought down within a central location? the city. >> so seven years. >> correct. >> so these are the records that we have for this particular individual going back to 2003, is that right? >> yes. >> i'm sorry. is exhibit 203 the defendant's training records? exhibit 203. >> yes. >> is this the training record of the defendant? >> yes, it is. >> i'll offer exhibit 203. >> any mocks? >> no sgloks 203 is received. >> permission to publish, and so i would like to -- if you can scroll up and highlight this thirst record entry here. >> you can see the records are organized in a way that generally labels the correspondent and it gives various dates and then there's a start date and end date for the participant. is that right? >> correct. >> and then a total number of continuing education credits

in fact, is a risk and that they're being threatened, they would look at the authority back to the mpd policy and procedure manual, is that right? >> yes. >> under what is the use of force policy, what tools are available to me to respond here? >> yes. >> the next step then after considering the authority to act, goals and actions, what is that? >> the goals. the officer is making an assessment. with the authority act will an arrest resolve this situation? will separating the two parties be enough? is taking a report, will that be enough of a goal or an action? it may mean a combination of things. it may mean that i'm going to have to -- or the officers are going to have to make an arrest but we may need additional resources here because the situation could still have the potential to not be stabilized. and so all of that is part of that goals and action. >> and then to review and reassess, assuming that means exactly what it says? >> exactly, yes. and information is going to flow, dynamics can change. and so it can be a constant just review and reassess the situation to make sure we'r

>> yes. >> nonetheless, mpd responds? >> yes. >> do you know approximately how many calls for service the minneapolis police department receives annually? >> easily a couple of hundred thousand and then we also have officers that we categorize as self-initiated activity. so that could mean an officer happens to be driving through a neighborhood and sees something and reports out on their radio if they're going to look into it, so it's a combination, but it's a lot of calls. >> and generally, people don't call the police department to say, hey, everything's going great. just wanted you to know they have something that they want you to do. >> exactly. yes. it sounds then it's fair to say there's more to policing than surrounding people. you provide a broad service to the community. >> the actual law enforcement part is pretty small compared to most of the types of calls our officers are being called to address and deal with. >> yeah. >> so we've touched on police training, your own personal police training and how police tr

testified that you've participated and continue to participate in the training that's been provided by mpd, and has continued to be provided, is that right? >> yes, that is correct. >> is this training practical and useful? >> yes, it is. >> why do you say that? >> our officers are being called to respond to our community's needs and it's thuns of thousands of calls that they respond to. we are a very interesting profession this that some professions your body of work matters, and to an extent, within the minneapolis police department, our body of work matters but it's more internally. but to our communities, for the most part. your body of work doesn't hold as much value. we don't have the luxury of being able to go up to a community member for the first time and say, you know, those 99 calls i was on before went really well, trust me on this one. we don't have the luxury of doing that. our communities are going, no, what have you done for me lately? this interaction, i'm going to grade you on how you treat me during this call, during this interaction, and so we have to make each engageme

. >> i know you reviewed various mpd policies in connection with your review of this case, right? >> yes. >> and getting back to the issue of whether what we saw in exhibit 17 at that particular time was a use of force, are you aware of how the minneapolis police department defines force? >> not specifically, no. i would have a general understanding of it. >> generally, would you agree, or based on your review, would you expect minneapolis police department generally defines force to include restraint? >> it can. >> particularly if it's restraint that could result in some sort of injury or pain, fair? >> yes. >> and so you would agree then, just as we are at this point in your testimony that what we stay in exhibit 17 would at least fit within the minneapolis police department policy of use of force, fair? >> yes. >> and a reasonable police officer would adhere to the policies of their own department, true? >> yes . >> in your analysis under how you're going to go about a force review, you indicated that one of the things you looked at is the severity of the crime, true? >> yes. >

policies, you're familiar with mpd defense tactics and control guide, use force continuum? >> yes. >> okay. and you would agree that continuum which we've all seen is a tool that officers can use to make some kind of rough approximation of what is a proportional response? >> yes. >> you would agree based on your review of the minneapolis police department policy that the sanctity of life and protection of the public, those are the cornerstones of minneapolis police department's use of force policy. true? >> yes. >> in your review of the minneapolis police department manual, the use of force manual you received a copy of the manual i'm assuming? >> use of force 5-300. >> that's correct. in your study of use of force 5-300 series did you see the phrase or term one upsmanship anywhere in this policy? >> no. >> so you would agree one upsmanship is not the policy. it's protection of public and sanctity of life? true? >> i use it to describe how the standards are. >> you're using one upsmanship to describe the concept of proportionality. true? >> yes. >> and one upsmanship, i gue

>> yes, sir. >> are you familiar with minneapolis mpd critical thinking module?>> critical decision-making model? yes, sir. >> yes. that's kind of a graphic that -- objection. >> i i haven't asked a question you. >> try not to be leaning with that. let's try to rephrase it. >> is the critical thinking model, a graphical representation of the different concept? >> i don't know if i understand that question. >> are usually with the concept of reassessment? >> of reassessment? absolutely. >> can you describe reassessment to the jury? >> yes, sir. the critical decision-making model we put basically a template together offers us to at and understand the thinking processes and reevaluation is when you're looking at circumstances you are involved in and you're you are coy looking for factors that change. so you can change your behavior. >> and is reassessment something that you have been teaching even before the advent of this model? >> oh, yes. it's better have to use of force. >> and so there can be a point in time when a particular type of force is a reasonable, but

. >> if we could turn to the second page of 111, does it appear to have mpd, cpr. >> correct. >> could you deliver personally deliver this slide deck before. >> i have. >> presley how any times pretty. >> from 2019 and my best estimation, probably in the course of maybe, 12 sessions are so maybe 15 sessions that i was responsible for. >> did the defendant attended any of your sessions pretty. >> i am not sure. >> what you are providing the block of training that everyone consistently back in 2019 pretty. >> correct, i was the instructor here. so theoretically they would all come to my skill station. >> now this time, you can take that down. i'm going to offer it to the 111 pretty. >> 111 issued. >> in general terms, you provide the jury an overview of the specific medical training that you provided to the law enforcement officers. >> for in-service specifically, yes. we do offer a wide variety depending on how any screening sessions will be available to us. but at a minimum, every year we are touching on cpr, and add. and then in alternate years were going over refresher class on the b

the investigation will also assess whether the mpd engages in discriminatory conduct and whether its treatment of those with behavioral health disabilities is unlawful. it will include a comprehensive review of the minneapolis police department's policies, training, supervision and use of force investigations. it will assess the effectiveness of the mpd's current systems of accountability and whether other mechanisms are needed to ensure constitutional and lawful policing. broad participation in this investigation from the community and from law enforcement will be vital to its success. the justice department has already begun to reach out to community groups and members of the public to learn about their experiences with the mpd. we also seek to hear from the department's officers about the training and support they receive because their perspective is essential. all these voices will help provide investigators the information they need to conduct a comprehensive assessment. all these voices will be critical to the reform efforts that will follow if the investigation determines the

you know, what i saw in the tunnel, the 147 mpd officers and six u.s. capitol police officers that defended the west terrace, again, it was the most brutal combat imaginable. it was like, i mean, nothing i had ever seen outside of the movies. >> well, let me just say that -- >> i know it's something i'll never forget. >> -- we've been talking about transparency a lot. especially what's happening now in north carolina and the releasing of body-worn camera video. officer fanone was wearing a body-worn camera that day, and so far they won't release the video. we're going to talk about that and much, much more with officer michael fanone right after this. we'll be right back. ♪ you've got the brawn ♪ ♪ i've got the brains... ♪ with allstate, drivers who switched saved over $700 click or call to switch are you managing your diabetes... ...using fingersticks? with the new freestyle libre 2 system, a continuous glucose monitor, you can check your glucose with a painless, one-second scan. and now with optional alarms, you can choose to be notified if you go too

. >> if i can display exhibit 230 which is the mpd policy 7-350. >> emergency medical response. under roman one, you see the purpose of the policy is to lay out in writing the roles and responsibilities of the minneapolis police department employees and incidents involving a medical emergency, is that right? >> yes. a. >> if we can take a look at the policy itself under number two, does that explain what a police officer is supposed to do when they come under a medical emergency or a medical emergency develops on a call? >> yes. >> what are they supposed to do? >> while awaiting ems, mpd employees assisting an individual having an acute medical crisis shall provide any necessary first aid consistent with our mpd training as soon aspect of all. >> so that presumes of course they are waiting for ems or some kind of emergency services, is that right? >> that's correct. c >> would that be fair to say that it's in two parts. an officer has to request ems or an ambulance, correct? >> yes. >> and while waiting for the ambulance, they are required to provide what medical training and sk

does that appear to have mpd cpr, is that right? delivered -- personally delivered the slide deck before? >> i have. >> approximately how many times? >> this was in-service of 2019, and my best estimation, this problem wasly over the course of 12 or 15 sessions and i was responsible for about one-third of them. >> did the defendant attend any of your sessions? >> i am not sure. >> but you were responsible for the block of training -- >> correct, i was the instructor and ran one of the skilled stations. so everybody in the department theoretically would have come through the skilled station. >> in general terms, you provide the general overview of the specific training you provide to law enforcement officers on an annual basis? >> for in-service specifically? >> for in-service, yes. >> depending on how many training sessions will be available to us at a year, but at a minimum every year we are touching on cpr and aed, and ultimate years we are going through a refresher class on aur . >> are you aware if the police department has a sp

>> yes, sir. >> and if they do so in accordance with mpd policy 5-316 in your training, what does theer need to do after the subject has been placed in the mrt and is prone? >> place them in the recovery position. >> how soon? >> as soon as possible. >> why? >> because when you further restrict their ability to move it can further restrict their ability to breathe. >> in terms of the appropriateness of force, would you agree with the proposition that force must be reasonable when it's applied? >> yes, sir. >> and would you also agree that circumstances can change, subject behavior can change? >> yes, sir. >> the environment can change? >> yes, sir. >> and are you familiar with minneapolis mpd critical thinking model. >> critical decision-making model? >> yes, sir. >> and that's kind of a graphic -- >> objection, your honor. >> i haven't asked a question yet. >> hard not to be lead being that. try and rephrase. >> is the critical thinking model a graphical representation of a different concept? >> i don't know if i understand that question, sir. >> are you familiar with the concept of

police department last week, we received an immediate pledge of support from minneapolis mayor fry an mpd chief arredondo. we have briefed louisville mayor fisher an lmpd chief shields on our investigation in louisville. they, too, have pledged their support and cooperation. louisville has already taken some steps towards reform through its settlement with the family of breonna taylor as well as through other measures. we commend those measures and our investigation will take them into account. it is clear that the public officials in minneapolis and louisville, including those in law enforcement, recognize the importance and urgency of our efforts. we come to them as partners knowing that we share a common aim. there are approximately 18,000 federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies in our country. in each one, dedicated officers put themselves in harm's way to protect others. promoting public trust between communities and law enforcement is essential to making both communities and policing safer. our enforcement efforts, as well as our grant making and other support, will contr

you know, what i saw in the tunnel, the 147 mpd officers and six u.s. capitol police officers that defended the west terrace, again, it was the most brutal combat imaginable. it was like, i mean, nothing i had ever seen outside of the movies. >> well, let me just say that -- >> i know it's something i'll never forget. >> -- we've been talking about transparency a lot. especially what's happening now in north carolina and the releasing of body-worn camera video. officer fanone was wearing a body-worn camera that day, and so far they won't release the video. we're going to talk about that and much, much more with officer michael fanone right after this. we'll be right back. e with a cfp® professional. a cfp® professional can help you build a complete financial plan. visit letsmakeaplan.org to find your cfp® professional. ♪ these folks don't have time to go to the post office they use stamps.com all the services of the post office only cheaper get a 4-week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps.com/tv and never go to the post office again. vo:

. >> i know that you reviewed various mpd policies in connection with your review of this case. is that right? >> yes. >> and getting back to whether that was use of force, are you aware of how the minneapolis police department defines force? >> not specifically, no. i have a general understanding of it. >> generally, would you agree or based on your review, would you accept that minneapolis police department generally defines force to include restraint? >> again. >> it's restraint that could result in some injury or pain? >> yes. >> so you would agree just as we are, at this point in your testimony, that what we saw in exhibit 17 would at least fit within the minneapolis police department policy of use of force. fair? >> yes. >> in your analysis as to how you're going to go about a force review, one thing you look at is the severity of the crime. true? >> yes. >> severity of the crime, would you agree, the label of the crime, whether it's a misdemeanor, gross misdemeanor isn't as important as the underlying conduct involved in the crime? >> i agree. >> a felony-level bad check

. >> is this an mpd trained neck restraint? >> no. >> what the officers say they were taught when it comes to restraint and if they think chauvin stepped over the line. >>> and let's take a live look outside before we head to break. beautiful view of the city from the camera on treasure island. 19 minutes shy of five and we will be right back. . >>> back to that breaking news. we have new video just in to the newsroom. a man was hit and killed by a sheriff's patrol karasch he tried to escape arrest. that is according to officers there on scene. this is the traffic alert. highway 101. it started just before 11 last night when chp officers were doing a dui test. while they were taking that person into custody the suspect took off running right on to the northbound lanes. that is when a san mateo county sheriff's office hit that man who died at the scene. several lanes are expected to reopen with in the next 15 minutes or so. investigators have been out there all morning long. we will bring you another update as soon as the lanes

>> no, sir. >> is this an mpd authorized restraint technique?> a knee on the neck is something that isn't unauthorized. >> under what circumstances would that be authorized? how long can you do that? >> i don't know if there is a time frame. we depend on the circumstance. >> which would include? >> the type of resistance you are getting from the subject. >> if there was a say for example, the subject was under control and handcuffed, would this be authorized? >> i would say no. >> john is live in minneapolis. you have been following the trial closely. there is a focus today on the use of force. do you think either side had a particularly good or bad day today? >> it was a nuanced day with gains for both sides but all in all, it was a particularly good day for the defense. the clip you just played, you had the lieutenant, the training officer for the minneapolis police, helping the prosecution case that derek chauvin's knee hold on george floyd's neck wasn't an authorized hold. that it was unusual. he helped the defense because at one point they

and i welcome the consent decree investigation into the mpd because every agency can learn from that.y different things, both at the local, state and national level relative to transforming the criminal justice system, and policing in particular completely. we have to look at, what do we want our police to do? for so many years in america, we have used the police to confornt issues of socio—economic poverty and mental health issues and substance use disorder issues. issues, with the only tool of criminalisation and that does not work. we need to look at the inequities and the structural racism that in many aspects has been built in because we over police people in the united states. that phrase overpolicing is interesting. we've been hearing from people on the ground and activists in minneapolis, one of the phrases that comes up is this idea of warrior policing. this idea that during police training, you are taught effectively that you will go into enemy territory and that culture and mindset is something that needs to be to be changed. what do you make of that? i would agree. there a

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. >> are you aware that use of the restraighten technique is guided governed by mpd policy? >> it is. >> that's 5-316. >> that is correct. >> is there more than one device that is authorized to perform the max mall restraint? >> right now it is just the rip hobble is one that we use. would you recommend they use this technique to ensure their safety? >> yes, sir. >> if they do so in accordance with mpd policy in your training what does the officer need to do after the subject has been placed in the mrt and is prone? >> place them in the recovery position. >> how soon? >> as soon as possible. >> why? >> because when you further restrict their ability to move it can further restrict their ability to breathe. in terms of the appropriateness, of course, would you agree with proposition that force must be reasonable when it is applied? >> yes, sir. >> and would you also agree that the circumstances could change? subject behavior can change? >> yes, sir. >> right. >> environment change. >> yes. >> you're familiar with minneapolis mpd critical thinking model? >> critical decision m