any other questions for mr. clark? >> mr. gib ner, what do we do in a situation, i understand they can request records. can they request a written response to questions? does that qualify? >> the sunshine ordinance doesn't require that type of response. >> it does basically the answer is the sunshine ordinance doesn't require to you create a document in response to a request. it only requires to you produce documents that exist. >> what is the precedent for a situation where maybe there isn't an explicit but -- if there is a quote unquote sunshine request that is not seeking records, is there an obligation to respond to say, this is not an appropriate sunshine request or follow up with some kind of question? >> under section 67.22 departments must d.c. basically work with someone who is requesting oral information. >> because -- i also underlined this and see that all of you are careful lawyers underline i'm not requesting any documents parts because this isn't sun shine or public records request. listening to mr. clark now,

i would perhaps interpret even if mr. clark wasn't specifically requesting any documents to the extent that there was information contained in a document that's responsive to his inquiry and to the extent this was a single question and not interrogatories that if the department had information in a specific document, if they had records to produce and responsive to that question, they could have done so. i don't have a strong opinion on the this case that's why i didn't speak but i think there are other ways to interpret the questionch >> i don't think there is any doubt whether they provided the records. the question is to a non-document question. does all of this kick into gear if there aren't document and documents aren't what are sought whether it's just an answer where the person would say we've never done that or we have no such documents or we didn't take it up. >> you opened public comment again. >> she's already spoken. >> i believe what you adidas as opposed to the last item. you allowed him to speak. as for the last

no charges have been -- were filed against mr. clark that would warrant any such action on behalf of the police department. i find it abrent and there will be a public speak out. i did not organize it, but i'll be present there. there will be a public speak out tomorrow evening at 5:00 p.m. at 24th and mission where the community will express its views on that. but it definitely needs to be reviewed and it is a far cry from best practices. second off, i want to echo the appeal for a taser forum in the tenderloin. there have been cries out

no charges have been -- were filed against mr. clark that would warrant any such action on behalf of the police department. i find it abrent and there will be a public speak out. i did not organize it, but i'll be present there. there will be a public speak out tomorrow evening at 5:00 p.m. at 24th and mission where the community will express its views on that. but it definitely needs to be reviewed and it is a far cry from best practices. second off, i want to echo the appeal for a taser forum in the tenderloin. there have been cries out for this for months. chief sur actually at the january 22nd meeting expressed his willingness to engage the tenderloin community as such and i'd like to ask the police department and the police commission, i realize that we're doing busy schedules to try and accommodate this because this is a organic cry for consultation from that community. there has been no political arrangements or anything of the sort. they are honestly appealing to come and speak with them about something they feel impact in the n

mr. richard clarke of good harbour security risk management, and mr. clarke served on the last three presidential administration as a senior white house adviser, including special adviser to president for cybersecurity and national coordinator for security and counterterrorism. he also worked for several years in the u.s. department of state for the assistant secretary of state for political military affairs and managed the deputy assistant secretary of state for intelligence. in addition to the current roll at a good harbor, mr. clarke is an adjunct professor at the harvard kennedy school and author of several works related to homeland security and national defence, including his latest work "cyber war the next threat to national security, quote cohen and important for this panel what to do about it. we also have with us, daniel lohrmann, the chief security officer for the state of michigan. i do believe he's a native of maryland. mr. lohrmann began his career as a computer systems analyst with the national security agency and served in a variety of po

essentially saying this reuters report may or may not be accurate but had no link to what was disclosed to mr. clark and then what he said later -- shortly there after. >> what i'm saying is i'm comfortable with what i did and said to make sure we're able to deal with the unfortunate leak of classified information. >> how frequently did you have to pull groups like this together in order to, in a sense, put out authorized or at least what you think is appropriate, news for purposes, for the correct purses? >> senator, effect frequently if there's an event, a terrorist attack, underwear bomber or ied, we'll engage with the american public, the press, with individuals, who are experienced professional counterterrorism experts who go out and talk to the american public. we want to make sure there's not misrepresentation of the facts but do it in a way of maintaining control of classified material. >> it does occur or it's possible to put out an authorized leak. that's correct? >> no, those are oxymorons. authorized leak. it's something that would have to be declassified, disclosed an done in a proper m

mr. clarke and then what he said later on -- shortly thereafter on abc news. >> what i'm saying is i'm comfortable with what i did and said at that time to make sure we were able to deal with the unfortunate leak of classified information. >> how frequently did you have to pull groups like this together in order to in a sense put out authorized or at least what you think is appropriate news for purposes -- for the correct purposes? >> senator, frequently if there's some type of event, if there's a disrupted terrorist attack, whether it's some underwear bomber or disrupted ied or whatever else we will engage with the press, with the american public, we will engage with counter trinch experts to talk to the american public. we want to make sure there's not misrepresentations of the fact but at the same time do it in a way we're able to maintain control over classified material. >> now, it is -- it does occur i assume or it is possible to put out an authorized leak. is that correct? >> no. those are oxymorons, authorized leak. it is something that would have to be declassified, disclosed, and do in a

mr. clarke was just mentioning. governors must make cyber security a top priority. gov. schneider led the charge by establishing accountability authority in visibility of governance. michigan is centralized by i.t. we have now merged into one cohesive program. the chief security officer provides risk-management and security associated with assets, property systems, and networks. it also leads the development and the implementation of security strategies from all michigan technology resources and infrastructure. each state needs a plan for cyber security. following this framework, and guidance to be provided, each state must implement a level of defense. gov. schneider brought together this across the nation. this lays out a comprehensive strategy and safeguards are in data. our plan can be seen at michigan dot gov. provide next-generation awareness. in every state employees are our weakest link against cyber attacks. these are the number one cause of breaches. in the past, this quickly became outdated and was a failure. we now covered the training. we call it 2.0. brees

mr. clarke was just mentioning. governors must make cyber security a top priority. gov. schneider led the charge by establishing accountability authority in visibility of governance. michigan is centralized by i.t. we have now merged into one cohesive program. the chief security officer provides risk-management and security associated with assets, property systems, and networks. it also leads the development and the implementation of security strategies from all michigan technology resources and infrastructure. each state needs a plan for cyber security. following this framework, and guidance to be provided, each state must implement a level of defense. gov. schneider brought together this across the nation. this lays out a comprehensive strategy and safeguards are in data. our plan can be seen at michigan dot gov. provide next-generation awareness. in every state employees are our weakest link against cyber attacks. these are the number one cause of breaches. in the past, this quickly became outdated and was a failure. we now covered the training. we call it 2.0. brees

mr. clarke mills and much credit is due to him for his faithful and intelligent services rendered in theolding and casting of america's superb statue of freedom which kiss is the first wave of the rising sun as they appear on the apex of the capitol dome. his skill was such that he was one of the few that paid personally in addition to the minister being confiscated for his time in labor. this is a copy of the reseat that we were able to find at the national archives of money that was paid to philip reed. in 1861, the federal government paid $1.25 for, "keeping up the fire under the old. one of the things that we were able to find out about him through this document, and by the way, keeping up this end of the mold, this is basically keeping the fire burning, to work in iran, you need heat. however, when the workweek ended if he let the fire blowout you waste a bunch of time on monday getting it started again. so, his job was to keep the fire burning hot so that they could continue working on monday morning. and one of the things we were able to discover through this document is despite h

mr. clarke, . >> in your handout, which was excellent, the 12 steps -- and gentlemen, i hope you have writtenown yours and will submit them to us at the end so we can share them with members -- but number three, you say request and receive regular security briefings on cyber security personnel, including state employees and contractors responsible for information and assets from across various state agencies, request regular briefings from the department of homeland security. so much of our ability to set priorities and get people focused on the things we can and must do and the follow-up depends on our ability to ask the right questions. what are the things you would advise those of us who served as governors to be asking for as a template in these briefings? so that they are not a show and tell, so it is an actionable ?23 question mar3 >> if you have a strategy and flowing from that strategy is a could get briefed every quarter for a half an hour or so on how that congress is being made. there are all sorts of things you could decide are your priorities in this area -- education, law enforc

that this reuters report may or may not be accurate but had no link on the what was disclosed to mr. clark and what he said? >> what i'm saying is i'm very comfortable with what i did and what i did at the time to make sure we did with the classified information. >> how frequently did you have to pull groups like this together in other words to -- in a sense put out authorized or at least, what you think is appropriate news for purposes for the correct purposes? >> senator, frequently, if there is some kind of event if there is an underwear bomber or whatever else we will engage with the american public, with the press, and with individual who is are experienced professional counter terrorism experts who will talk to the public. we want to make sure there is not miss interpretation of the facts but remain control of the classified material. >> it does occur, i assume to put out an authorized leak, is that correct? >> no, those are oxymorons. it would something that would have to be declassified, disclosed, and done in a proper manner. >> this does not fall into that category? >> absolutely

this reuters report may or may not be accurate but had no link on the -- to what was disclosed to mr. clark and what he said? >> what i'm saying is i'm very comfortable with what i did and what i did at the time to make sure we did with the classified -- that we are able to deal with the classified information. >> how frequently did you have to pull groups like this together in other words to -- in a sense put out authorized or at least, what you think is appropriate news for purposes for the correct purposes? >> senator, frequently, if there is some kind of event if there is an underwear bomber or destructive i.e.d., whatever else we will engage with the american public, with the press, and with individual who is are experienced professional counter terrorism experts who will talk to the public. we want to make sure there is not miss interpretation of the facts but remain control of the classified material. >> it does occur, i assume to put out an authorized leak, is that correct? >> no, those are oxymorons. it would something that would have to be declassified, disclosed, and done in a pr

that this reuters report may or may not be accurate but had no link on the what was disclosed to mr. clark and what he said? >> what i'm saying is i'm very comfortable with what i did and what i did at the time to make sure we did with the classified information. >> how frequently did you have to pull groups like this together in other words to -- in a sense put out authorized or at least, what you think is appropriate news for purposes for the correct purposes? >> senator, frequently, if there is some kinded of of event if there is an underwear bomber or whatever else we will engage with the american public, with the press, and with individual who is are experienced professional counter terrorism experts who will talk to the public. we want to make sure there is not miss intertraditions of the facts but remain control of the classified material. >> it does occur, i assume to put out an authorized leak, is that correct? >> no, those are oxymorons. it would something that would have to be declassified, disclosed, and done in a proper manner. >> this does not fall into that category? >> abso

essentially that this reuters report may or may not be accurate but had no link to what was disclosed to mr. clark and what he said later shortly thereafter on abc news? >> i'm saying i'm comfortable with what i did and said at the time to make sure we were able to deal with the unfortunate leak of classified information. >> how frequently did you have to pull groups like this together in order to -- in a sense, put out authorized or at least what you think is appropriate news for purposes -- for the correct purposes? >> senator, frequently, if there is some kind of event like an underwear bomber or disrupted ied or whatever else, we will engage with the american public with the press, engage with individuals who are experienced professional counter terrorism experts who will go out and talk to the american public. we want to make sure there's not misrepresentation of the facts, but do it in a way that we're able to maintain control of classified material. >> it does occur or is possible i assume to put out an authorized leak, correct? >> no, those are oxymorons, authorized leak. it would have to

mr. jeffries: thank you, congresswoman clarke. the congressional black caucus consists of 42 members representing a variety of communities all across this great nation. we have been joined today by two representatives from the lone star state, one of whom, sheila jackson lee, has distinguished herself in many different areas, but has been a thoughtful leader in the area of comprehensive immigration reform and currently the ranking member on the house committee on homeland security subcommittee on border and maritime security. and also is a senior member of the house committee on the judiciary and the important subcommittee on immigration and border security. we are thankful she is a long time champion of a fair and humane immigration system. and i yield the floor to congresswoman sheila jackson lee. ms. jackson lee: i would like to thank the distinguished gentleman from new york and the distinguished the gentleman from nevada. and i particularly want to thank them for hosting this vital discussion, this special order and pay tribu

clarke: mr. speaker, monday, november 26, 2012, a great day for the residents of my town. new york city went 24 hours without a single person being ininjured or -- injured or killed by gun violence. that day the section of brooklyn within my district which witnessed more shooting victims last year than any other part of the city felt a most needed reprieve from the violence it experiences on a daily basis. mr. speaker, women and children are gunned down every day in urban communities across the country by illegal handgun violence. in fact, on average more than 100,000 people in the united states are shot and killed with the gun annually. this is endemic in communities of color where the legal handgun violence has become a very serious public health issue. these numbers are unacceptable, especially in a state and city with some of the strictest gun laws in the nation. last week, gun violence is not an inevitable problem, yet it continues to plague our community. we owe it to the people we represent and to future generations to act with urgency and conviction to put an end t

white house situation room and orders counterterrorism director richard clarke to look into an iraq connection. >> when i said mr. president, we will do that of course. but we've done it before and rather recently. and the answer has always been no. and it's likely to be no this time. he didn't like that answer. and he got mad. >> i was in the room during that time, and he was very adamant about perhaps seeing whether or not iraq could conduct such an operation against the united states. i was surprised when the president left the room. i said i believe wolfowitz got to him. >> paul wolfowitz, bush's secretary of defense, has had saddam on his personal enemies list for two decades. >> every time he survives something, he sends the message to his enemies i outlast my enemies. and if you are on the wrong list when i'm still around, you'll be in trouble. >> paul wolfowitz would become convinced that if we looked strongly enough, if we look closely enough, we'd find the hand of saddam hussein behind virtually every terrorist attack on the united states. >> even before 9/11, wolfowitz and undersecretary of defense do