mr. dunn, to make that defense, which is a firm defense in florida, and the stand your ground language is part of the instruction that the jury will hear. >> i wanted to play a little bit of dunn's testimony. and this does speak to no gun being found. but he has said that he thought this was a gun used against him. present danger, and i said, "you're not going to kill me, you son of a bitch." >> reporter: i also have to point out, you worked in criminal defense for some time now. you would say that this is a defense that has to be made even if it's hard to explain why the defendant feels that he was threatened? >> absolutely. the defense attorney has basically the only defense here is self defense and when you have a self defense case, defendant. you need to put on some evidence that there was, in fact, a situation where he had to defend himself. so, here, the defendant had to take the stand and had to explain to the jury in the best manner that he could that he, in fact, was in fear for his l

mr. dunn. >> speaking to that, it does appear that mr. dunn left the scene after shooting his fath fatherarm. he went home. there is various reports about him going to sleep. these sorts of things. and i want to play some more of his testimony today explaining his actions or at least his version of his actions after the shooting. let's listen. >> i didn't call the police at all until the following morning. >> that didn't go through your head like maybe i just shot somebody because they pointed a gun at me, i should call the police? >> you know, you are right. it sounds crazy and i couldn't tell you what i was thinking when all of this happened. i can just tell you that i didn't do it. >> as a defense attorney, what do you do with that sort of testimony from a client? >> well, that's a big problem. it's a great -- it's a great windfall for the prosecution because it doesn't just sound crazy. it's not credible. if you are firing a weapon to defend yourself and then minutes later, your fiance's i

>> yes, i did. >> reporter: mr. dunn, the truth is you never told the love of your life that those boys had a gun. >> you weren't there. >> reporter: all right, ma'am, if you come right around here. later, prosecutors brought his fiancee back to the stand to hammer home the point. >> did the defendant ever tell you he saw a gun in that red suv? >> no. >> back in the hotel room that same night, did the defendant ever tell you he saw the boys with a firearm? >> no. >> did he ever tell you he saw the boys with a weapon? >> no. >> reporter: dunn claims the fiance got something else wrong, the last words she heard him say before the shooting. >> i hate that thug music. >> reporter: you don't recall saying i hate that thug muse snik. >> no, if i staal called it anything, i would call it rap crap. thug music isn't something i say. >> reporter: he was quizzed about his behavior after the shooting. >> mr. dunn, you left the gas station because you knew you had shot into the car of an four unarmed teenagers. >> reporter: dunn ackn

we've got to see the other mr. dunn, the mr. dunn that charlie hendricks' eight-year neighbor said existed. the man who threatened other people's lives. the man who may or may not have had other issues with alcohol. the man who said that this country was being taken over by minorities. we ought to see mike at dunn, the one he described in his own jail house letters. >> kerry sanders is outside the courthouse right now. bring us up to date. i just saw a whole group of people walk off, looked like they were carrying a very large sign. what can you tell us about what's happening out there? >> there is a fair amount of reaction out here. they anticipated there would be some sort of answer on that number one charge, which is the first-degree murder charge. the mistrial has disappointed a fair number of people here. but sort of muting that is the jury did come back with three counts of guilty on attempted murder. which suggests to many who were out here, that had the prosecutor brought a charge of second-degree murder, rather than firs

>> just before we do that, mr. dunn, have a seat. ring the jury back in, i'll ask mr. stroala if he is ready to proceed. i will say yes. i will say call your next witness. you will come up. i will have you raise your hand i want it to look exactly the same. you come up, have you raise your hand. the clerk will administer the oath. you come around and have a seat and off we go. >> does the state have any objection to him being over here already? >> yes, sir. >> do you want him already under oath or to stand up over there and be sworn? >> i don't want the jury to infer that he is a -- i think this will look like predesh trial proceedings. >> what i'll do if you want, when we are finished with his testimony, we can take a break and he can get off the stand. >> that will be great, sir. >> your other matter. >> they have filed a motion with the trial beforehand. i wanted to address that in some respects. i think mr. strola and i may be in agreement. >> we are going to step away from this and bring back in ashleigh banfield. you heard what

they've given credibility to the process of having a trial of mr. dunn. they have given credit to the jury trying as hard as they could to do the right thing and to do justice and that they made statements that the jury acted in good faith. so i think the family has been very well composed and has done everything appropriate under these circumstances. >> criminal prosecuting attorney ken padowitz. thank you for being leer. >> thank you for having -- being here. >> thank you for having me. >> by bringing people back we're bringing salt back to the land and we are bringing it to life again. >> why the jordan river valley may be fertile hopes of middle east peace. >>> and later on in our program, silicon alley? >> what you've done, matters less than how ambitious you are, where you can take it. >> if they can make it there, they can make it anywhere, new york, new york. >> with a new deadline looming for the israeli palestinian peace talks, secretary of state john kerry met. latest round hinges on one region in particular. that is the jordan river valley. it

overruled. >> mr. dunn, the truth is, you never told the love of your life that those boys had a gun. >> you weren't there. >> did you? you did tell her that? >> i said "you were not there." >> i get that. i know that. the truth is, you didn't tell her about a gun, did you? >> i mentioned the gun. >> mr. strolla, if you want to object, please stand up and make the objection loudly so everybody will stop. of. >> asked and answered, your honor. >> i don't think it's been answered. >> at this hour, you've been watching special coverage on cnn. watching inside a jacksonville, florida, courtroom. compelling testimony on the stand right now michael dunn, a 47-year-old, accused of shooting and killing a 17-year-old teen. jordan davis. he is being cross-examined by the prosecution at this hour and has been really compelling to hear the cross-examination. >> he made the case to the defense that he was acting in self defense. he said he felt threatened by the teens who were in the car. he claimed to have seen a weapo

i cannot even imagine what mr. dunn was thinking because he was the one that was facing the verdict. >> all right. that is michael dunn defense attorney, corey strola basically saying, listen, i don't know why the prosecution would want to retry this case. he's already going to jail for 75 years, possibly 100 when you look at all the charges on top of that or what he faces there. so he doesn't understand why they would retry. angela corey, the prosecutor, saying they're absolutely going to retry it. so we shall see in this. >>> coming up just a little bit later on after we take this quick break, our attorneys are here. our prosecutors are here. we've got every single legal analyst that you would want to hear from including people who have tried very similar cases. right after this very quick break. ♪ ♪ so you can have a getaway from what you know. so you can be surprised by what you don't. get two times the points on travel and dining at restaurants from chase sapphire preferred. so you can taste something that wakes up

it's sad for mr. dunnhe will live the rest of his life in that sense of torment, and i will pray for him. i've asked my family to pray for him. but we are so grateful for the charges that have been brought against him. we are so grateful for the truth. we are so grateful that the jurors were able to understand the common sense of it all. and we will continue to stand, and we will continue to wait for justice for jordan. >> thank you all for being here. it's been a long journey, about 450 days. me and lucy and our supporters have stood strong. i believe we stood strong in the eyes of not only jacksonville, not only florida, not only the nation but the world is looking at all of us here in jacksonville. it's not in my nature, actually, to not lash out and to not say inflammatory statements, whatever, but i have to hold that in. i think my son and lucy's son deserved the best representation he could have gotten as parents. i thank you all for saying that we as parents were good parents to jordan. he was a goo

davis, jordan davis and mr. dunn. we have seemingly an opportunity to leave, and that's stand your ground and retrieve. we'll talk about that. >> can i break in with news? the state just rested its case. wow. >> wow. >> wow. i am a little floored. i didn't expect it was going to go on a whole lot longer than today, perhaps. >> maybe they should have done what they did in the zimmerman case. >> let's listen in. >> we'll resume at 1:30, please do not discuss the case among yourselves or with others. >> i think we just -- we've lost the audio, sadly, from the courthouse feed, which happens on occasion. but, again, a little astounding. are we missing something? >> i think they may have learned a lesson from the zimmerman case. i was very surprised they had put in the evidence of george zimmerman's statements in their case and chief. the very least, i thought they should have waited and forced us to make a decision about putting on mr. zimmerman. in this case, they know they have to put mr. dunn on the stand. there is no w

they gave credibility to the process of having a child of mr dunn. they have given credit to the jury trying to do the right thing, and do justice, and made statements that the jury acted in good faith. the family has been well composed and did everything appropriate under these circumstances. >> criminal defense attorney and prosecutor. thank you for your insight throughout the trial. >> thank you for having me. >> when we return to "america tonight", growing a future. >> the village was dead for 47 years. by bringing people back, we bring soil back to the land, we bring it to life again. >> why the jordan river valley may be hopes more middle east peace. >> and later - silicon valley. >> who you are and what you've done is less than your ideas and how ambitious you are and where you can take it >> if they can make it there, they'll make it anywhere - new york, new york. opening doors ... opening possibilities. taking the impossible from lab ... to life. on techknow, our scientists bring you a sneak-peak of the future, and take you behind the scenes

the best way to explain it is that we understand that mr. dunn sitting in their ca minding their business, playing their music too loudly. i have to submit to my students that for some reason members of that jury believed his story and also believed the fact that for some reason those young men, those boys really were somehow menacing mr. dunn. and i think it just goes to the ways in which race has become more and more criminalized within our criminal justice system. >> john, here's the thing. race itself, it was not explicitly talked about much in the trial. many, though, clearly looking at this in those terms, specifically some of the letters that michael dunn wrote from jail which made some overt -- made overt racial statements. i had the chance to talk to his attorney about the letters this morning. take a listen to what he said. >> this is a man that was never exposed to a jail cell or a jail system, was put in isolation, and unfortunately it was a culture shock. when you have -- >> the jail made him racist? >> i wouldn't say the jail made h

every guy in the car admitted mr. dunn didn't raise his voice, didn't curse. >> he didn't have to raise his voice. he took out a gun and fired ten shots, ten rounds. >> that was after jordan davis got out of the car with a weapon. >> let me ask you this before you go, why ten shots? if he was concerned, if the goal was to try and keep this dangerous teenager at bay and to save his life, why not a warning shot, one in the air? two shots, maybe even three shots? >> by saying why not a warning shot, there is a black african-american female in jail right now in duval county where my client was prosecuted, she is sitting there, guess what x she got her conviction overturned on the jury instructions and on stand your ground. those people who are arguing against stand your ground are now portraying this as a win for an african-american female in jacksonville, who fired a warning shot. so if my guy fired a warning shot, the state attorneys would still prosecute him for that very warning shot. >> have to leave it there. i appreciat

mr. dunn's testimony. if they can get the jury to vote no weight therefore no credibility and can come back with the verdict of guilt. >> faith, you said all along throughout the last several nights since saturday's verdict that you don't agree that they should reargue murder one. is that how they do it by going at the credibility of dunn. how do they reargue it more strongly in a retrial if, in fact, they decide to do that, try murder one again. >> i think now we heard the juror speak out it is more of an incentive to go back with murder one because the evidence was so strong. when you have a jury of 12 and you come back and know there was a vote of ten to convict you know you put on a really strong case. so they need to go back. there are obviously some guidance they can take. they can use the same evidence. the facts and evidence is on their side. i think this case was won or lost in jury selection. there was a hung jury because there were three jurors for whatever reason bought into dunn's story. i thi

and the unlocking comes from the mind of mr. dunn. when he gets into that car after firing ten shots and he drives away and he says nothing to his fiance. he says nothing about a gun or seeing a gun or seeing a weapon. and that right there, i believe, is the key for this jury to unlock what was in the mind of mr. dunn and to show that he really wasn't reasonably in fear and not in fear and therefore he is guilty to one of the murder charges, first degree murder or the lesser included crimes of second degree murder or manslaughter. >> faith, you hear in the summations or final arguments by the defense, they played very heavily to the jury on the elements of the stand your ground law and that he could act with deadly force if he had reasonable fear. he absolutely said there was a gun but there has never been a gun found. there has never been anyone to corroborate a gun outside of dunn himself and his girlfriend said he never mentioned a gun who road with him from the scene. is this enough in stand your ground for him to say this without

i cannot even imagine what mr. dunn was thinking because he was the one that was facing the verdict. >> reporter: alina machado, cnn, jacksonville, florida. >> here's question number one. how will the country react to the dunn verdict? joining me now to discuss this, cnn's martin savidge. he is in jacksonville, florida. hln's jane velez-mitchell in new york. we'll start twith martin becaus he's been on the ground covering this. you have been there as the trial has unfolded. you were there last night as the verdict came down. what's the feeling, what has it been like there since that verdict? >> reporter: you know, it's really been kind of -- people have been questioning, wondering what would be the reaction of this community. last night there were demonstrations outside of the courthouse. there were people demanding for the resignation of the prosecutor, angela curry, in this particular case. since then today has been very quiet. there have been no formally organized protests. there's been no loud outbursts or anything

mr. dunn's conduct, as to them? of course, there were multiple shots. nine which hit the car. ten, of course, fired in total, and so with the other shots, fredricka, the issue becomes what were the other three teens doing in the car, such that mr. dunn felt in fear of them, and would, therefore, be justified under the law in the charges as to them, which is attempted murder. >> and, joey, in your view, is this troubling to the prosecution in particular? that four days of deliberations, and the xlok sticlock is still ? >> you know, it is, and it's not. why i say that and why i hedge is that the longer you do this, the nor confusing it becomes. there are jurors out a long time, fred, and, of course, convict. jur es out for a long time and then acquit. what i really do believe, particularly in light of the fact that it was a holiday weekend, it was, of course, valentine's day yesterday. the jury is sequestered nap they really are troubled, and they're really seeking to get it right, because this is a decision when you have a jury that's impaneled that there is to live with for th

. >> this case centers on one question, will the jury believe mr. dunn was really in fear? at the heart of this case is the controversial stand your ground law that says you can use deadly force if you feel threatened. the law became a national controversy after george zimmerman was acquitted in the killing of unarmed trayvon martin seven months ago. and now seven months later, a jury is right now discussing that same self-defense claim in the state of florida. today the jury asked four questions of the judge. they asked to see the gas station video that was shown in court. it's 20 minutes of footage from multiple angles. they also asked to see the dummy used by the prosecution to illustrate where jordan was shot. the judge did not allow them to see this because it wasn't entered into evidence. and they had additional request. a dry easel or large paper, which they received, some missing pages from one juror's jury instructions, and late this afternoon, they wanted to know the date of a letter mr. dunn sent his brother last june from jail. so we wait on a jury of 12 inside

after mr. dunn shot into the car, the driver of the vehicle drove away. they called 911. mr. ve away, he did not call 911. so when the police responded then the kids came back to the location and they were found at the location. but mr. dunn drove away, he didn't call the police, he went home. they found him the next day. and again, the prosecutors are going to argue why did you run. innocent people stay, they call the police. >> lisa, a number of details. dunn's attorney says he acted in self defense. but we know that for example there were letters written while mr. dunn was in jail where he referred to the young men as thugs, and had other comments. those are letters that i don't know have impact whatsoever if they will in this court. but what we know is this issue again of stand your ground and how this individual says that his life was in danger, despite the fact that the other person was unarmed and so far is proven to be a fact there. >> i think the letters are relevant and i hope that the state of florida doesn't make the same mistake in this case they made in the georg

so one could conclude that mr. dunn is quite frankly a bigot. but when you look at the trial itself, i asked this esteemed panel of good folks here, where in the trial, until the procedure, was there any bigotry or overt racism? >> it's at the root of the case. >> let him finish then we'll answer your question. >> may i finish. i did not interrupt anyone on this panel. let me also say for a complete transparency i am pro second amendment, i am a concealed weapons holder. i'm pro stand your ground. i am pro civil rights all the way. pro ninth amendment for women's rights and so forth. and at the end of the day as a black american male in this country -- and i've been black and american and male longer than anybody on this panel -- i refuse to not embrace every single right under this great constitution. and that is -- that includes the right to keep and bear arms. >> joseph, let me just ask you. do you believe in the state of florida that the law is equally applied, that if an african-american male argued stand your ground shot a -- if the roles

mr. dunn acted responsibly and as any responsible firearms owner would have acted in the same circumstances. >> and he goes, you are dead [ bleep ]. >> and i said, oh, baby, let me give you a hug. let me give you a hug. he says, mom, i have to go. and i said, please, let me give you a hug. that is the last time i saw is him. >> we are covering these breaking developments from all angles here on cnn, and as i have said before, this is adult con verysati -- conversation, ae ready for this. we have defense criminal attorney paul callan and ben ferguson and marc lamont hill and holly hughes, and on the phone we have ashleigh banfield and jane velez-mitchell and nancy grace and -- when i say all angles, i mean it. and joining us as well is ben crumbp the attorney for the family of trayvon martin and we will get all of the viewpoints as we await the reaction of the jury getting the instruction from the judge. we go to florida, and he has been covering this from the beginning, and he says that the co

mr. dunn's car. mr. unn puts his gun out the window with his door open and as they drive away, doesn't want fire back. because now they've got a perfect shot at the back of mr. dunn's head. and he puts two bullets low into the car. and as you can see, the bullets go up. and you'll hear it. bang bang bang. quick. no long pause. >> with a white defendant and a black victim, the trial has generated national attention, because of the parallels with the trayvon martin case. martin, a black 17-year-old, was shot and killed by george zimmerman who is white, in early 2012, during a dispute in sanford, florida. zimmerman was acquitted. following verdict, president barack obama surprised many by commenting from the white house on the case that captivated the country. >> when trayvon martin was first shot i said, "this could have been my son." another way of saying that is, trayvon martin could have been me, 35 years ago. >> today, it was another father who took the stand to talk about the loss of his son. mountain

and mr. dunnht he saw the paral barrel of a shotgun and freaked out and instead of driving away he fired into the suv killing jordan davis. saturday his fiance took the stand. i want to play a bit of what she had to say about when they initially pulled into the gas station and heard the loud music coming from the teenager's suv. let's listen. i apologize. we are having a lot of technical difficulties today. in testimony the fiance of michael dunn testified when they pulled into the gas station and heard the loud music coming from the teenager's suv michael dunn supposedly said i hate that kind of thug music. he was upset from the get go. in my estimation the fiance's testimony actually hurt the case. ? >> it hurt it significantly. you laid it out well what the facts of the case are showing. with regards to the testimony it is significant for two reasons. the first reason is to the fiance why it is important because she states to his state of mind. he hates that thug music. what does that tell you

. >> mr. dunn, you said several times throughout the course of the day that you didn't call the police until the next morning. are you talking about the morning of the 24th? >> yes, sir. >> who was it that you called? could you tell me the name of the officer? >> i don't remember his name. but he was here yesterday. >> and i didn't call him personally. he was called on my behalf. >> okay. >> and is it your testimony that you called ken? >> yes. >> wasn't that the law enforcement officer you were talking about? >> well, at 8:30 in the monk, i called him and i went and spoke with him and asked him to contact law enforcement on my behalf. >> your phone number at the time -- >>s it ate 202 phone number that i called at 8:30. >> 202-365-8150. >> it's a washington, d.c. number. >> would it refresh your recollection to explain who called you? you called him, he called you? >> judge, if i can object. improper predicate. can we approach? >> sure. >>> all right. quick sidebar. i'm brook baldwin, you're watch

the problem, again, though, is the fact that mr. dunnoesn't tell his fiance moments after the shooting or even the next day that, in fact, he had observed a gun. >> really, i think, overshadowed the defense attorney's good point that he is making to the jury but it's going to become overshadowed by this window into this man] mind as to what he was thinking after thatshoot shooting. >> we will see what the jury decides, criminal defense attorney ken padowitz, thank you for being with us again? >> thank you for having me. >> coming up on "america tonight," nagan's nasty fall from his passionate plea after katrina to a guilty verdict. what's next for the former mayor of new orleans. later in our program? >> i imagine a day when women wake up in the morning, put on whatever they want to or don't. >> dancing in the streets, the energetic movement to mobilize the power of women. >> this is a crime against humanity >> is libya unraveling? >> there's coffin after coffin being carried into the cemetery. >> fault lines libya: state of insecurity o

crump, it was not about loud music, but it is what mr. dunn told to court about what he perceived to be a threat. perhaps they believed his story that the music and the argument and the threats and what he thought was the image of a barrel all went into factoring the decision that he was in fear for his life. and it was not just music, or just teenagers, but all of the things, and what he told the court seemed to be compelling to some. if you listen to the television case, it is ridiculous that there is a hung jury, but i caution everyone to go into the court a week or two or three or six to try a case, and then spout out how you feel, because it is different in the court. >> okay. ashleigh, we get the reality of the inside of the courtroom, and we talk about that, but there is also the reality of everyday life for people in this country, and you understand people don't feel that justice is served in many ways, and especially people who are underserved by the judicial system. es p pbly people who find themselves at the bottom of the justice sy

and here in a self-defense case, mr. dunn basically had his credibility go down the drain with the testimony of his fiancee. so i think the prosecution is in a great position in this case. >> faith, your views on what happened today. >> here you have rhonda rouer, right, his fiancee, she loves him. she doesn't want to see him go to jail. she doesn't want to see him get into trouble. she obviously doesn't want to be there on the witness stand. she comes in and she is sort of reluctantly telling the jury what the real truth is. minutes after michael dunn looks in the jury's eyes and tells them they had a gun that. >> had a weapon, they were threatening me with their life. because what better way to bolster his testimony that he was in fear for his life than to put a gun in jordan davis' hands. but the fact is that night what happened that night, the minutes after he shot and killed jordan davis, he is with his fiancee for hours, hours after that incident. he never, ever mentions that they pointed a weapon at him. and now the ju

. >> it's sad for mr. dunn that he will live the rest of his life in that sense of torment, and i will pray for him. i've asked my family to pray for him, but we are so grateful for the charges that have been brought against him. we are so grateful for the truth. we are so grateful that the jurors were able to understand the common sense of it all. we will continue to stand, and we will continue to wait for justice for jordan. >> i thank you all for saying that we as parents were good parents to jordan. he was a good kid. he wasn't allowed to say in the courtroom that he was a good kid, but we'll say it. he's a good kid. >> i don't think there's anybody that could listen to those two parents and not feel the anguish in their hearts. it should be pointed out, fredricka, that today would have been jordan davis's 19th birthday. his parents have asked they be left alone to mark it as they will. fredricka. >> martin, the prosecution, they are claiming they are thinking about retrying on this first degree murder char

. >> mr. dunn, you having been convicted of counts two, three and four by a jury. >> reporter: guilty on four counts, including three of attempted second degree murder in the 2012 shooting outside a jacksonville gas station that killed 17-year-old jordan davis. but on the murder charge, no verdict. >> based on the jury's inability to reach a verdict on count one, i would declare that mistried. >> reporter: vowed to keep fighting. >> we will continue to stand and we will continue to wait for justice for jordan. >> i feel michael dunn has a minimum of 20 years and another 20 years on another count so he's going to learn that he must be remorseful for the killing of my son, that it was not just another day at the office. >> reporter: during the trial, jurors heard from the three teens who were in the car with davis the night of conferenrontn over loud music turned violent. >> what did the driver do with the gun when he grabbed it from the glove compartment? >> he caulked it back. >> i'm looking out th

. >> are you aware of mr. dunn as reputation for peacefulness? >> yes.>> never have i observed anything other than a very calm demeanor. >> i always thought he was a gentleman. >> similar words are also being used to describe davis, a young man we still know little about. trayvon became a household name. our martin savage is out front with more. >> reporter: sitting in her son's bedroom she reads from a journal she started soon after 17-year-old jordan davis was killed. >> every where i turn jordan i see you. i keep remembering all the things we used to do and all the places we used to go. >> reporter: you pretty quickly realize we are eavesdropping on a conversation between a heartbroken mother and the child she can no longer see. >> i need the country to know you and our god. help me and your father to make the changes necessary to make our world a little bit safer. i don't want anyone else to die. >> reporter: in the shorthand of news davis is simply the black teen shot and killed by a white man allegedly over loud music. that's how he died. not who h

. >> it's sad for mr. dunnill live the rest of his life in that sense of torment. >> i believe we stood strong in the eyes of not only jacksonville and florida and the nation, but the world is looking at all of us here. >> reporter: the attorney says there was no winner in this case. >> there's going to be two sets of families grieving because of what happened. >> reporter: the prosecution plans to push for another trial. >> we plan to retire dunn on first degree murder. >> reporter: the 12-person jury took four days. >> the case has drawn comparisons to the trayvon martin shooting. martinthe parents said the verdict does not change the fact that davis' parents will sever see him again. >>> a school bus driver is facing criminal charges for slapping an autistic child. >> what is the problem. stop. now. >> video of the incident shows the driver confronting an eight boy who wouldn't stop screaming. the driver said she did not know the boy was aussies tick and that the boy threatened to kill her. >> it's just the

that jordan davis was the one who initiated the verbal dispute even though obviously mr. dunned him to turn the music down but that he was sort of threatening in his language if not literally threatening mr. dunn. i think this should have been a strong day for the state and i'm not sure it was. >> what do you think about that? that he could have possibly feared for his life? they did all admit that the teenagers were being obnoxious and rude, all of those things. that's not the same for fearing for your life. >> i totally disagree with janet. you have to look at the case here. there could be an argument if he shot into the car but he shot in there eight times. you have to be in fear of your life for imminent danger. michael dunn did not de-escalate. he kept shooting at them as they were driving away. unless michael dunn can prove that jordan davis had a gun or a lead pipe as the defense attorney, you know, says he did, this case is very hard for michael dunn to win. >> would you agree with that, janet? eight times of shooting does appear to raise the bar. >> well, you know, it

>> first thing, should we be surprised that mr. dunn is insensitive? is that really a shock to any one of us, based upon the conduct upon which he engaged in? that's number one. number two, whenever you're in a facility, ashleigh, you have no expectation of privacy. as a result of that, anything you say, obviously, is fair game for everybody else. and so therefore, to the extent that we're evaluating this conversation, we need to be, because it gets us into his mind-set. last point, you could argue that perhaps his defense lawyer my have wanted this into evidence. why? because it shows -- >> good point. >> right? it shows, hey, this was his state of mind. he really felt he was unattack. >> it's like you were reading my notes. >> maybe i did. >> the question is, who would have wanted this suppressed? his lawyer or the prosecutor? because it could speak to either juror that got hung up on this guy. >> well, i think it's bad, really, for the defendant, any time you speak -- you would hear the old rule. any time you speak and someone writes it down, that's

>> you always have issues of credibility but you have the issue of was, mr. dunn in imminent fear for his life. regardless of what they were doing, listening to music. whether it is loud or not loud, what was the cause of him firing off a shot? did they just say something to him? was it enough for him to fear for his life? is his state of mind such that he believed that if they were saying anything, they weren't intending to kill him. you match that with the fact that no gun was recovered from the scene at all. the number of shots fired at the car and his behavior afterwards, which we know was to flee, which could have been equated with consciousness of guilt. to order a pizza and never call 911, the jury will be piecing all of that together. >> his attorney says it was the girlfriend that ordered the pizza and there were all sorts of reasons they wanted to get their legal representation in place, et cetera. it is just a matter of how reasonable these jurors will find that part of the story. does it seem lately that we are getting an inordinate number of self-defe

it's sad for mr. dunn that he will live the rest of his life in that torment. and i will pray for him. >> he must be remorseful for the killing of my son. >> reporter: the defense attorney said he would love to know what the jury was thinking. the jury refused to speak with the president after the verdict. >> he's in disbelief. and even when he sat next to me, he said how is this happening? >happening? >> reporter: the state attorney vowed to retry the second-degree murder case against dunn. cory did not respond directly when a mistrial was proo of that she had overcharged in this case. something this they have they were accused of doing in the zimmerman case. outside of the courthouse, the protesters we spoke to said that the four days of deliberations have them worried about a repeat of zimmerman's acquittal in the death of trayvon martin, killed 9 months before davis. >> relief of a verdict, of a punishment, but it wasn't the right punishment for the person >> reporter: all along, davis' parents said that they hoped to have a conviction by their son's birthd

mr. dunn's reputation for peacefulness? >> yes. nice guy. >> reporter: the defendant's son, chris dunn, took the stand to defend his dad. >> he's my father. >> reporter: the defense showed the jury wedding pictures from the night chris got married. it was just after michael dunn left the reception that the shooting happened. dunn himself has not commented publicly on his side of the story. but since being in jail he has written many letters. they've now been submitted as evidence. in a letter dated july 14th, presumably to his fiancee, he writes, "i just got off the phone with you and we were talking about how racist the blacks are up here. the more time i am exposed to these people the more prejudiced against them i become." in another letter to his grandmother he complains, "the blacks seem to be calling the shots in the media and the courts." in yet another letter he acknowledges comparisons to the trayvon martin shooting. "cory, my attorney, says i have a much stronger case of self-defense than zimmerman does." this case does s

. >> mr. dunn, your having been convicted of count ii, iii and iv by a jury. >> reporter: michael dunn guilty of three counts of second-degree attempted murder in the shooting that killed jordan davis. but on the charge related to the 17-year-old's death the jury could not agree. >> based on the jury's inability to reach a verdict as to count i i would declare that mistried. >> reporter: following the verdict outrange disappointment outside the courthouse. and on twitter many questioned how the jury could fail to reach a verdict on the murder charge. one tweet reads, a partial lie is still a lie and partial justice is still injustice. >> juries do confusing things. >> reporter: legal experts say the jury's initial request to see the surveillance video where you could hear the gunfire the night of the shooting may provide insight into how jurors were struggling over the murder charge. >> the logic may be they thought deshoot potentially in self-defense and that there was a gap when he could have thr

certainly, you know, this idea that thug music -- i mean, that suggests, faith, that the shooter, mr. dunnnd of bias potentially. >> right. and this is a clear-cut case of first-degree murder and a clear-cut, trumped-up defense of self-defense. michael dunn is taking his chances because he's a white man against four black teenagers playing rap music. he's going to take his chances against them. it's going to be a play on race and racial bias in the worst way in this trial because he wants these jurors to believe that because it's four black teenagers, of course he's in fear for his life by arguing they are inherently dangerous, inherently threatening and using that as a defense in a play on those emotions and stereotypes in this trial. >> michael, i want to read to you -- because the florida attorney's office released letters written by dunn, one to his grandmother, one to his daughter. i think they go very directly to this question and to this point. in the letter to his grandmother in february he says, i'm not really prejudice against race, but i have no use for certain cultures. this ga

it gives too much power to the individual like these shooters, like mr. dunno take the law into his own hands, to take life into his own hands and grab that gun out of the glove compartment box, as opposed to simply moving his car away if he could do so reasonably, without placing himself in fear. you know, rev, i've got to say, just to reiterate one more time, the law the way it was before this stand your ground law allowed for self-defense and allowed for you to stay at a scene and defend yourself if by leaving you would place yourself in danger. so you always had the right to defend yourself, and there was no need for the change in the law that the nra pushed in putting down these stand your ground laws in all these states. >> faith, in a jailhouse phone call, michael dunn referred to himself as the victim. listen to this. >> you know, i was thinking about that today. i'm the [ bleep ] victim here. i was the one who was victimized. i mean, i don't know how else to cut it. like they attacked me. i'm the victim. >> right. >> i'm the victor, but i was the vict

>> none at all. >> nothing further. >> mr. dunnyour father, michael dunn in the last 15 years prior to your wedding? >> objection. irrelevance. >> overruled. >> how many times huh seen your father in the last 15 times prior to your wedding? >> three times. >> total? >> yes, ma'am. >> is it fair to say you didn't know your father very well? >> yes, it is. >> mr. dunn, you were the groom so you weren't with your father every minute of the wedding and the reception, were you? >> no, ma'am. >> did your father have your telephone number? >> yes. >> did miss rower? >> yes, ma'am. >> would you be willing to take a phone call from either saying between 8:00 p.m. the night of your wedding and midnight to take care of their dog if there was a kind of an emergency? >> objection. >> i'm asking what he would have been willing to do. >> overruled. >> had you received a phone call from your father letting you know there had been an emergency and the dog had to be taken care of. would you have taken care of their puppy, charlie. >> yes, ma'am. >>

it's sad that mr. dunnl live the rest of his life in that sent of torment and i will play for him. >> he must be remorseful for the killing of eye son. >> reporter: dunn's attorney would love to know what the jurors were thinking. >> he's in disbelief. even when he sat next to me p.he said how is this happening. >> reporter: state attorney angela cory vowed to retry the first degree murder case again dunn, cory is the same prosecutor who tried the george zimmerman case. cory did not respond directly when she was asked if a mistrial was proof that she had overcharged in this case. something her office was a accud of doing in the zimmerman case. >> i am very proud of our office. >> reporter: outside the kraut course, protesters we spoke to said the four days of deliberations had them worried. about a repeat of zimmerman's acquittal in the death of treyvon martin, killed nine months before davis. >> we leaf of a verdict, relief of punishment. but it wasn't the right punishment for the person. >> reporter: all

it's sad for mr. dunn that he will live the rest of his life in that sense of torment. y for him. >> he must be remorseful for the killing of my son. >> reporter: dunn's attorney said he would love to know what the jury was thinking the jurors refuse today speak with reporters following the verdict. >> he's in disbelief. he's not sunk in he said how is this happening. state attorney angela cory vowed to retry the first degree murder case again dunn, she's the same prosecute who tried the george zimmerman case, cory did not respond directly when she was asked if the mistrial was proof that she had overcharged in this case. something her office was accused of doing in the zimmerman case. >> i am very proud of our office. >> reporter: outside the courthouse, protesters we spoke to said the four days of deliberations had them worried about a repeat of zimmerman's acquittal in the death of treyvon martin killed nine months before davis. >> we leaf relief of a verdict d punishment but it wasn't the right punishment. >> reporter: all along, davis' parents said they hoped to hav

as you have been following the kashgs listening to the testimony, listening to the testimony of mr. dunncee. listening to the evidence presented, would you have guessed that deliberations would carry on in this manner? day four. that seems fairly lengthy for this kind of case, given that it was argued not very long. just a matter of weeks. or does this seem appropriate, that four days seems reasonable, given the gravity of this case? in your opinion? >> well, on the side that, you know, let's give the jurors a break here. it's reasonable. jordan davis, 17-year-old kid, lies dead. michael dunn will likely go to prison for the rest of his life, depending on this decision. so i think it's okay for them to take time and make sure they get right, but if want to compare it to other big cases that have been tried in the recent past, they've already deliberated longer than they did in the george zimmerman case, in the jodi arias case, in the o.j. simpson case, in cases that went much, much longer. so statistically, this is a very lengthy deliberation for a very short trial, and a relatively simp