mr. edwards. >> take it very much mr. chairman, and ranking member coburn. the federal government faces a dismal fiscal future with rising spending and debt. if you look at the cbo log range projection, that looks bad enough but for reasons i go through in my written testimony our fiscal future is much worse than the cbo baseline shows. the upshot to me that we need to look at every federal agency and cut and terminate waste and low priority programs. what is waste? is government spending where the cost is higher than the benefit created for citizen. in my view it's also federal activities that the federal government does a poor job at that could be much better carried out by state, local government and the private sector. as i think congressman duncan mentioned, there are stories in the media, gao report of the week about wasting the federal government. my research shows there was waste and cost overruns and fraught cost overruns and fraud and abuse all the way back to the beginning of the republic in the 19 century full of examples of wasteful spending. wh

mr. edwards? >> yes. >> would you repeat that. >> one aspect to ensure the competition but also acted as the in the contract and the calculations are another part of this. are you familiar with the prevailing wage? >> yes. >> i was taken back by the gao account, and what it showed a is we have a problem. so do you believe the fair wage for the ferre jobs? >> we have supported that and the service contract. >> how much? >> yes. >> what came to my attention i agree with you i don't see that there is no benefit. maybe at one time, there was. but i don't see much of that aspect now. but you be surprised 100% of the audit calculation made it more fraudulent? >> that does not surprise me. i haven't seen the report but it would not surprise me. >> what about you, mr. edwards? >> 100%. a little surprising. >> how about you? i was prepared for 50 or 60%. >> we contacted the calculations for the prevailing wages and the department which is crappy. let's say let's give up on the prevailing wage and let's rec

mr. edwards? >> a broad comment on job training. i have looked in dames at job train -- details and the federal job training programs have never worked well. over a half century to john f. kennedy we reorganize them and try to fix them but the g.a.o. comes back and basically says you can't really so that these things work very well. i think the federal government ought to get out of the job training business. the corporate and business sector of the united states does a much more massive job training on the job than the federal government's $18 billion is a tiny drop in the bucket and hasn't worked very well. i would take the federal government out of that. in terms of pro growth policies it is outside of the jurisdiction of there economy but in is a gigantic reform on the plate and there should be bipartisan support for corporate tax reform. we have the highest rate that makes no sense. you read every few weeks or every month or two about major corporations who are moving jobs elsewhere often because of the corporate tax problem we

joining me now for today's big deal is the newest addition to the remember that enough mr edward harrison. some of you may know ed from his fantastic finance accounting tech blog along with his past appearances here on our t.v. but he's also now a permanent producing resident here on boom bust and i personally could not be more excited to have him here welcome and i first want to start off tell us a little bit about yourself what the who are you where you're from tell and tell the press. really excited to be here it's great and you know we're doing a great show definitely as we are. turning my back around which is you know international from the i was a diplomat when i first started out working then i got an m.b.a. to move into finance and so that's where you know the bulk of it is but i'm also really interested in technology i work for yahoo a lot of telecom deals but i was in banking and so i think it's great that we have a great show where we talk about all these different topics it truly is and we're hoping that right out there loves it now i want to switch gears we're going to big de

mr edward harrison joins me now to talk about power more specifically power that comes in the form of small electro chemical tubes filled with magnesium dioxide and zinc better known as batteries you probably know his daughter is now the economist recently published an article pretty much saying the like of all stocks that you may be holding and her gys are duracell of the lot are owned by procter and gamble because the days of the battery powered household torch they are probably numbered now what used to be a lucrative market is now being squeezed by l.e.d.s. or a late emitting diodes television remote controls ones powered by batteries can be controlled via apps on your cell phone and the latest gadgets come with batteries built right into them and i turn to you how does a company that once produced a product so prevalent find a way to innovate its way out of this situation that's a good question because you know it's been it's the it's the ever changing question of technology i actually like the fact the use of the word sports the british system i was. in there but you know if you

mr edward harrison joins me now to talk about power more specifically power that comes in the form of small electro chemical tubes filled with magnesium dioxide and zinc better known as batteries you probably know his daughter is now in the economist recently published an article pretty much saying the like of all stock that you may be holding and her gys are duracell the lot are owned by procter and gamble because the days of the battery powered household torch they are probably numbered now what used to be a lucrative market is now being squeezed by l.e.d.s. or a late emitting diodes television remote controls ones powered by batteries can be controlled via apps on your cell phone and the latest gadgets come with batteries built right into them and i turn to you how does a company that once produced a product so prevalent find a way to innovate its way out of this situation that's a good question because you know it's been it's the it's the ever changing question of technology i actually like the fact the use of the word sports the british system i was. in the air but you know if yo

mr edward harrison joins me now to talk america the land of opportunity at least for some time now our recent study from the equality of opportunity project it was called the equality of opportunity project has mapped out the ten best and the ten worst cities to give me the ten best and worst cities in the u.s. for economic mobility now researchers from from harvard and berkeley used millions of anonymous earnings records to measure the chances that someone born into the bottom fifth of income earners reaches the top of it now the results show that ten of the top cities for economic mobility are all located in either the west or northeast with four in california alone now here are some of the cities where the legendary american dream of economic mobility is most achievable check this out number one salt lake city now this is interesting to me and i want to talk about this because as we just mentioned in the headline salt lake city is also the city which goldman sachs has chosen to open its cost of city hall but what do you think about this lake well i think it's interesting because you

mr edward harrison joins me now to talk about power more specifically power that comes in the form of small electro chemical tubes filled with magnesium dioxide and zinc better known as batteries you probably know his daughter is now in the economist recently published an article pretty much saying the like of all stock that you may be holding and her gys are duracell the lot are owned by procter and gamble because the days of the battery powered household torch they are probably numbered now what used to be a lucrative market is now being squeezed by l.e.d.s. or a late emitting diodes television remote controls ones powered by batteries can be controlled via apps on your cell phone and the latest gadgets come with batteries built right into them and i turn to you how does a company that once produced a product so prevalent find a way to innovate its way out of this situation that's a good question because you know it's been it's the it's the ever changing question of technology i actually like the fact the use of the word sports the british system i was. in there but you know if you

joining me now for today's big deal is the newest addition to the very best that enough mr edward harrison thank you so much for being here and now some of you may know ed from his fantastic finance and tech blog along with his past appearances here on our t.v. but he's also now producing resident here on boom bust and i personally could not be more excited to have him here welcome and i first want to start off tell us a little bit about yourself who are you where you're from tell and tell the. really excited to be here it's great and you know we're doing a great show. yeah we are. my background which is you know international i was a diplomat when i first started out working then i got an m.b.a. to move into finance and so that's where you know the bulk of it is but i'm also really interested in technology i work for yahoo a lot of telecom deals but i was in banking and so i think it's great that we have . great show we've talked about all these different topics it truly is and we're hoping that right out there loves it now i want to switch gears we're going to big deal it now so let's ta

mr edward harrison joins me now to talk america the land of opportunity at least for some time now a recent study from the equality of opportunity project it was called the equality of opportunity for object has mapped out the ten best and the ten worst cities to give me the ten best and worst cities in the us for economic mobility now researchers from from harvard and berkeley used millions of anonymous earnings records to measure the chances that someone born into the bottom fifth of income earners reaches the top of it now the results show that ten of the top cities for economic mobility are all located in either the west or northeast with four in california alone now here are some of the cities where the legendary american dream of economic mobility is most achievable check this out number one salt lake city now this is interesting to me and i want to talk about this because as we just mentioned in the headlines salt lake city is also the city which goldman sachs has chosen to open its cost of city hall but what do you think about this. well i think it's interesting because you k

mr edward harrison joins me now to talk america the land of opportunity at least for some time now our recent study from the equality of opportunity project it was called the equality of opportunity project has mapped out the ten best and the ten worst cities to give me the ten best and worst cities in the u.s. for economic mobility now researchers from from harvard and berkeley used millions of anonymous earnings records to measure the chances that someone born into the bottom fifth of income earners reaches the top fifth now the results show that ten of the top cities for economic mobility are all located in either the west or northeast with four in california alone now here are some of the cities where the legendary american dream of economic mobility is most achievable check this out number one salt lake city now this is interesting to me and i want to talk about this because as we just mentioned in the headlines salt lake city is also the city which goldman sachs has chosen to open its cost of city hall but what do you think about this salt lake well i think it's interesting becau

mr. edwards and those who were hired and remain loyal to mr. edwards.and that is a very difficult management challenge. i'm sure that all of them, regardless of whether they were the whistleblowers on the inappropriate conduct of your predecessor, or whether they are some of the talent that mr. edwards may have brought to the agency, figuring out how to meld them together into a working unit and get past these serious morale problems that you have right now is really going to be a challenge. ..

mr. edwards noted that don't have to feel like i need to go public.because if i go to the office of whistleblower protection, we are going to perhaps get some meaningful action. i can think of these other individuals whose stories that i highlight. those who are really abused. they were intimidated or fired with some very significant cases that would have a great impact on the market. a fellow that i heard about, a phenomenal story. this guy was considered an american hero. if he had been allowed to make his insider trading case back in 2005, i think that that would've had a significant impact on wall street. and so i would like to see whistleblower protection. in my opinion that would bring out information and allow for the processing of information instead of unfortunately what is this -- is bottling up with the sec brings the information back to the firm and leave me. there is a case in here about peter. he worked in the compliance department at jpmorgan. he was blowing the whistle on after-hours trading case. his identity was violated. by an sec a

mr. edward snowden. the banks had a seven year high last year. we will get the numbers next week. and the highest level since 2006. they would have sore to a high if not for the $18 billion banks set aside to cover legal and regulatory expenses. johnny football is entering being -- entering the nfl football draft. he passed for more than 7000 yards and 63 touchdowns and rushed for another 30 touchdowns. i am fascinated if he can make the switch to the nfl. they are so much bigger and faster. >> don't you call him jonathan football? >> that shows you my vast knowledge of college football. theyver-ending paperwork, are fodder for another episode of "the office." the ceo of doc you sign -- docusign has built a business on electronic signatures. you were the youngest vice president in general motors history. you started arriba. what attracted you to docusign? >> it is an opportunity to change the way business is done. this is one of the biggest markets i have seen. every potential customer, every person is a potential user. arriba created the be to be commerce area. this is the networ

mr. kris edwards is director of tax policy studies at a cato institute. mr. brandon arnold is vice president of government affairs at the national taxpayers union. and ms. jaimie woo his tax and budget associate with the u.s. public interest research group. i want to thank you all for being here. you are the main attraction, notwithstanding the previous period to and i think for all of us, the helpful this is a you know you have partners on the senate side who are equally interested in what you have to say. pursuant to the committee rules i would ask that you all these rise to take the oath. raise your right hands. [witnesses were sworn in] >> is the city. let the record indicate that all witnesses answered in the affirmative. this will be a little shorter perhaps in some ways. not like the first round your entire statements will be placed in the record. without objection. and we would ask that you stay as close to the five minute guideline as possible. with that, mr. schatz, you're recognized. >> thank you very much mr. jim and thank you for the opportunity

on case number 10-sf-0604, people versus richard edward ruiz. mr. ruiz is richard edward ruiz jr. your true name? >> yes. >> the following day it's preliminary court hearing ruiz was charged with felony possession of narcotics which could carry a lengthy sentence behind bars. he entered a plea of not guilty and had one supporter at the hearing, his girlfriend, samantha dunn, who spoke to us afterwards. >> tell me how you found out that your boyfriend was in jail. >> he was supposed to pick me up from work one day and after work i was waiting outside and an hour had passed and he wasn't there and i knew something was wrong. and so when i got home i found out on the internet that he was arrested. >> what are your biggest fears for him right now? >> i'm just afraid that he's in isolation, just completely -- you know, scared and lonely and doesn't know what's going to happen. and on top of that, i'm afraid of how long he's going to be in jail. that's my biggest fear so far. and that it would change him in any way. i hope it doesn't change his heart. >> i didn't know my girlfriend was

mr. edwards may have brought to the agency, figuring out how to meld them together into a working unit and get past these serious morale problems that you have right now is really going to be a challenge. >> i wasn't involved in that, i take no position on it, but what i do take a position on is people are going to do their jobs, heir going to focus on the mission, and we're going to get this thing done right. >> you have two agents in the field office in mcallen, texas, that were indicted for falsifying records and to conceal real lapses in your office's standards. and, you know, i'm biased in this regard. i believe the job of an auditor and the job of a prosecutor are kissing cousins because post of them must be dictated by the facts, and they must have an incredible rigor about following the facts and not any political considerations. um, those decisions have to be brutally independent. and by their very definition, they're difficult. obviously, you've got, once again, warring factions in conflict because many of the field offices under your supervision believe they have suffered in mor

mr. yee >> good afternoon, members of the board and edward reiskin. i have here with me one of our lead persons affidavit. this is a project that is sponsored by funding through the safe route through the schools program. it's next to e.r. taylor elementary school and next to the branch library. it's a project that's intended to install things on the foyer corners traffic is light moving through the intersection but the main purpose is to enhance the pedestrian visibility as they stand across the street. those are a lot of school age children crossing throughout the day. this school has a higher than normal educating of children having being dropped off any vehicles. they hope to enhance the safety >> gentlemen please. through safety enhancement and improvements around the site using. >> okay gentlemen please. mr. yee continue, please >> we had in the proposal both a 5 and 6 foot alternative for you to consider. we at staff recommended the 6 foot because, you know, it's a little bit less than the guidelines from complete street guidelines but it repre

first the guardian's editorial board on wednesday made a case for the pardon of edwards started arguing. mr snowdon your journalist in the absence of meaningful reliable democratic oversight and giving people enough knowledge about the nature of modern intelligence gathering to allow an informed debate then on the other side of the atlantic on the same day on new years the new york times also praise started calling him the whistle blow or insane. when someone reveals the government officials have routinely in deliberately broken a law that person should not face life in prison at the hands of the same government. pres obama should tell the states to begin finding a way to end mr stephens vilification and give an incentive to return home the york times runs a bullet point several of the nsa violations as revealed by edward snowden including the hacking of data links to a duel and yahoo the efforts to undermine encryption and proof that the director of national intelligence james clap or lied to congress last march when he said the nsa was not collecting data on americans then out to iraq whi

edward snowden first the guardian's editorial board on wednesday made a case for a pardon of edward snowden arguing mr snowden through journalists in the absence of meaningful reliable democratic oversight have given people enough knowledge about the nature of modern intelligence gathering to allow an informed debate then on the other side of the atlantic on the same day on new years the new york times also praised snowden calling him a whistleblower and saying when someone reveals that government officials have routinely and deliberately broken the law that person should not face life in prison at the hands of the same government president obama should tell his aides to begin finding a way to end mr snowden's vilification and give him an incentive to return home. the new york times went on to bullet point several of the n.s.a. violations as revealed by edward snowden including the hacking of data links that google and yahoo the efforts to undermine encrypt and proof that the director of national intelligence james clapper lied to congress last march when he said the n.s.a. was not collecting data on

president obama announced a new review of the nsa but insisted that edward snowden was no patriot. >> mr. snowden had been charged with three felonies. if in fact he believes that what he did was right, then like every american citizen, we can come here, appear before the court with a lawyer, and make his case. >> reporter: the embare are asments for the obama administration continued. in october a german newspaper reported that snowden documents appeared to kate that u.s. intelligence agencies had been listening to cell phone calls of the german channel lor. and then the "washington post" reported that the nsa tapped into the main communication centers for yahoo and google. the story underscored the ability to spy on tech powerhouses without their knowledge. snowden told the "washington post" he had already won at the end of the year. >>> one of the things that administration officials delve in hoping is that perhaps they could strike some sort of deal that if he would stop leaking documents he could get some sort of break. the president has denied that. but it gets to the fear that the

edward snowden specifically. given the fact of an open investigation, i'm not going to dwell on mr. snowden's actions or motivations. where does edward snowden, from your perspective, fit into this current debate and these proposed reforms the president put forward today? >> you know, i think it leads to whether or not you think the president is genuinely concerned or not. i don't think we would be here, and i think there would be absolutely no reform, had there not been the releases by snowden. it's a separate question, what to do with him and whether he broke the law, which i think he did, and how he should be punished. the thing is, we wouldn't have any of this information and we wouldn't have any discussion. but what i think the president misunderstands is, he thinks when there is a problem and there may be a potential for abusive problems, i'll get some lawyers together that all work for him, and then they'll review it and put more safeguards on it. the nsa cannot oversee themselves. the administration or executive branch can't oversee themselves. that's why we separate these po

edward snowden has done to our military. assessment,the dia and it is evident to me that most of the documents stolen by mr. snowden have nothing to do with the privacy rights and civil liberties of american nsazens, or even the collection programs. indeed, these documents, and we have heard the number 1.7

president obama announced a new review of the nsa but insisted that edward snowden was no patriot. >> mr. snowdon has been charged with three felonies. he can come here and appear before the court with a lawyer and make his case. >> reporter: the embarrassments for the obama administration continue. in october a german newspaper reported that snowden documents appeared to indicate the listening of calls by angela merkel, and then yahoo and google and the ability to spy on tech powerhouses without their knowledge. at the end of the year snowden told the "washington post" that he had already won because his many leaks created a public debate. snowdon took a thousand pages of classified documents that he plans to keep feed together media to keep the pressure on the government going. >> earlier i spoke with journalist glen greenwald, the first to receive the trove of info from edward snowden. i asked him what he thought about president obama's reforms of the metadata program. >> there were some proposals in the speech, but in the face of scandal and public outrage over official actions to pr

president obama insisted edward snowden was no patriot. >> mr. snowden is accused of 27 felonies. he can appear here and make his case. >> in october a german newspaper reported that snowden documents appeared to indicate that u.s. intelligence agencies had been listening to cell phone calls of german chancellor angela merkel. then main communication links for yahoo and google. the story underscored the nsa's ability to spy on packed powerhouses without their knowledge. at the end of the year snowden told the washington post he had already won because as many leaks had fueled a vigorous and high profile public debate. david shuster, al jazeera. >> later on jake ward will show us how tech companies make money with your data online. >>> now to cyber-attacks. stores and commerce at risk as hackers continue to strike. mark schneider reports. >> it's looking more like target and neiman's aren't the only retailers hackers are going after. cybersecurity firm intel crawler, says it has alerted other retailers about breaches. six that have not been named. it's the same type of software tha

edward snowden. >> i'm not going to dwell on mr. snowden's actions or motivations. any individual that can take it into their own hands to publicly disclose classified information, we will not be able to keep our people safe or conduct foreign policy. moreover, the sen sagsal way it game out shed more heat than light. good morning to you kristen. >> reporter: good morning, alex. president obama is hoping the changes he's announced to the government surveillance program will reassure critics at home and abroad. this morning, some argue the president punted on reform speaking at the justice department, mr. obama announced several reforms saying the government should no longer store mass phone records and calling on the attorney general to recommend and alternative method. records can only be accessed through court order and banned spying on foreign allies. reaction was swift. house speaker john boehner accused the president of failing to adequately explain the necessity of the programs. they called for more restraint on the nsa. some of the intelligence community, inc

mr. greenwald. and then i assume that there's also a third bucket of information that edward snowden still controls and is probably somewhere in the cloud. scott, one of my concerns is if he is accessing that cloud in any way in russia, russian intelligence is clearly watching him do that and they only need to see him do it once to be able to do it themselves. >> pelley: now, greenwald, of course, is the reporter who's been working with snowden. when you say that he has information in the cloud, this is a widely distributed file- sharing system where the information would be spread out over perhaps multiple servers anywhere around the world. after all of these months, would it be possible for someone to repeat what he did or are all of those security lapses now closed? >> reporter: there are places in the u.s. government where there is classified information, where there is no auditing capability and so this could happen someplace else and one of our recommendations in the review group was that the government move quickly to monitor these networks as aggressively as they can be monitored. >> pelley

mr. gregg confirmed that in response to representative edwards' question. do you agree with that, there are no medical records on healthcare.gov? >> correct. those would be at the providers. >> and would you agree that there is more personal information in a federal tax return than there is in a healthcare.gov insurance application? >> i agree. >> mr. kennedy, do you agree with that? >> i do agree. >> mr. gregg? >> i do agree. >> dr. ponemon? >> i agree. >> terrific. so about 08% of the people -- 80% of people in this country file their tax returns online. mr. krush, do you? >> i do. >> mr. gregg? >> no. >> doctor ponemon, do you feel online? >> i'm old-fashioned, no. >> mr. kennedy? >> ooh -- i'm old-fashioned as well. >> so when you understand that about 80% of the people in this country file their tax returns online, we're talking about security on healthcare.gov when there's more personal information on a tax return. i just want to highlight that, that we're talking about security on healthcare.gov when the majority of people file their tax returns onli

mr. snowden enabled us to do. >> maybe you would sign up for the lawsuit. >> edward snowden is in exile now. knowing him well and knowing the things he knows and maybe haven't been released yet, would you suggest he come back to face accuser or so stay where he is because who knows what would happen if he were to come back is this. >> here is the problem. if you are a whistleblower as he considers himself to be and other people do, too. you would want to come back if you could go into court and say, i disclose ed this classified information because i believe it revealed wrongdoing on the part of the u.s. government and law breaking. i was justified as a whistle blower in doing that. the way the justice department created the law is if you are charged with violations you are not permitted to argue that you were justified in exposing the information because it revealed serious law breaking on the part of the government. it is not a fair fight. you are barred from going in making that defense. if he thought he could get a fair trial, that the justice system would fairly treat him and test that

leaker edward snowden ben what's his current state of mind later we'll have a debate about all of this too what's the current state of mind of mr snowden oh you know his morale is pretty good. he is so grateful for the support that he's received recently from some of the world's leading newspapers including the new york times that called for him to be treated leniently to be given clemency but even more than that he's grateful for the global debate at his disclosures have set off and that open courts are reviewing the programs that he revealed and now congress is considering historic legislation even the president's own advisers are telling him that the n.s.a. has gotten out of control and needs to be reined in that was what hope to accomplish and that's what he has accomplished so that's what he meant when he said his mission has been accomplished. yeah i don't think that he meant the mission accomplished this wasn't the president on the aircraft carrier saying the war's over what it was just starting what he meant by that is that his job is done his job was to bring the public into the debate to take these secret programs and

edward snowden. maybe that was on his television prompter and he choked up when he said it. he did say earlier about mr. snowden who has joined our board of directors, that he deplored the sensational way that this information, which has led to all these proposals for reform, including his, and various legislative proposals, now pending in congress, he hated the way that was made. well, what exactly other way might that have come to his attention or to our attention? there was no other way. he's talked about his whistle blower protection act which didn't go into effect until after snowden had actually made his disclosures. but he neglected to, maybe he didn't know that that didn't cover snowden as a contractor. anyway, the four nsa officials who have been saying for years that the nsa was acting unconstitutionally, in this dragnet surveillance that they were carrying on were defying the fourth amendment had said openly that they thought snowden did the right thing and they did the wrong thing by acting through the channels that the president had spoken of. they were simply persecuted in a variety of wa

edward snowden, the n.s.a. computer technician, who revealed many of the agency's secrets. major garrett has details of mr. obama's plan. major? >> reporter: scott, the president ordered more judicial oversight and he said he wants to government to stop storing vast amounts of phone and internet data. but mr. obama did not fundamentally change counterterrorism surveillance and stoutly defended high-tech spying. >> we cannot prevent terrorist attacks or cyber threats without some capability to penetrate digital communications. whether it's to unravel a terrorist plot, to intercept malware that targets the stock exchange, to make sure air traffic control systems are not compromised, or to ensure hackers do not empty your bank accounts. we are expected to protect the american people. that requires us to have capabilities in this field. >> reporter: effective immediately, the national security agency must seek approval from a secret federal court before it can search its massive trove of telephone and internet data. there is an exemption for emergency terror threats. for now, the n.s.a. will continue to store

the more popular edward snowden becomes also out this week the freedom of the press foundation announced that mr snowden will be joining their board of their nonprofit organization it's a group that was started by the man who leaked the pentagon papers daniel ellsberg i spoke with jesselyn radack the national security and human rights director of the government accountability project just a short time ago and i first asked her what snowden will be doing for the freedom of the press foundation well i think. he'll be weighing in first of all it's a huge huge symbolic moment he is participating in civic society in the united states despite the fact that the u.s. has tried so hard to sideline him and freedom of the press foundation is an amazing organization because they are trying to foster safe and free journalism that protects both journalists and sources so i'm sure he has a lot to add to that discussion so does this mean that he will be remaining involves and participating in future or a whistle blowing accounts and leaks well i mean in terms of the future leaks he no longer possesses any of th

mr. paul couldn't behave like some aclu legal gad fly. they argued that edwarden is a national seero shows an unseriousness that would make it unsuitable to the commander in chief. welcome to that wind of the republican party. the contenders from florida senator marco rubio have used the anniversary of the war on pof effort tow present their own prescriptions for closing the income gap. spend more on the failed programs and increase the minimum wage to $10.10. really? this is their solution to what the president called the refining issue of our time? raising the minimum wage and having a job that pays $10 an hour is not the american dream. >> what grade would you give? >> i would give us a failing grade. it is failing. we should have done better. we can do better. people think it's getting handled. i paid my taxes and i am working really hard. that doesn't cut it anymore. people need to get involved in their communities. >> well, quite a week that was in 2016. the former chief of staff to president biden and msnbc political analyst for john mccain's 2008 campaig

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edward snowden. the "new york times" says enormous value lies in the information he has revealed writing, mr. snowden deserves better than a life of permanent exile, fear and flight. he may have committed a crime to do so, but he has done his country a great service. it is time for the united sta s states -- he should have the hope to lead a life of advocating for greater privacy and intelligence oversight. snowden has temporary asylum in russia. he's charged with espionage and felony theft of government property. u.s. officials have urged him to return and face the charges. >>> 14 people were rushed to the hospital after an apartment building in downtown minneapolis caught fire from an explosion. firefighters did the best they could to control the 20 foot flames but were eventually forced to foul back. fire officials say the building became unsafe and firefighters had to battle that blaze from the outside with hoses. they also had to deal with freezing temperatures and windchills near minus 20 degrees. residents of the second and third floor apartments were either rescued with ladders or the

. >> reporter: nevertheless he condemned edward snowden, whose unauthorized leaks sent mr.vate citizen, i'm going to feel pretty confident that my government is not spying on me. he also defended his 2012 campaign claim about the state of al qaeda. >> al qaeda has been decimated. >> reporter: the analogy we use around here is if a jv team puts on lakers uniforms that doesn't make them kobe bryant. there is a distinction between the capacity and reach of a bin laden and network versus jihadists who have power struggles. measured over time not in the moment. one of the things that i have learned to appreciate more as president is you are essentially a relay swimmer in a river full of rapids and that river is history. about the inept roleout of the obamacare website -- >> i take full responsibility to making sure it gets fixed asap. >> reporter: the president again pleaded for patience. if you're doing big, hard things then there's going to be some hair on it. there's going to be some aspects of it that aren't clean and neat. the president also acknowledged racial and partisan

mr. snowden did not give anything in terms of the kinds of files that he brought with him to any official in the russian government. >> president putin said that repeatedly, that we're not working with edward snowden. >> rose: but he hasn't given you any of his files. >> for intelligence information, ask mr. snowden. he's been giving various things to all sorts of people. the media said they published 1% of what they gave him. >> rose: "the guardian" said that. only 1% of what he gave them. >> exactly. so it's a question you should ask him. >> rose: but are you aware of whether he has these documents and secrets with him in russia? >> i have no idea. i don't know. >> rose: i can't imagine that your government wouldn't want to know that. >> i don't know. i don't know. maybe we know enough already. >> rose: one of the big issue for russians, the ukraine. here's the conventional wisdom: the united states -- russia did not want to see ukraine sort of move towards the european union and so therefore it spent a ton of money to rescue its economy and its energy supply in order to prevent that. correct? >> no, not really. no. ukraine, of course, is very important to us. much more important than to