the myriad of wrongdoing that mr. jeffs has committed to his own followers.e that worship him. had families taken away. and kill themselves. the boys cast aside. they had to focus on the charges involving these two, young girls. now, they have much greater latitude. and this source tells me, you ain't seen nothing yet if you think this trial was gut-wrenching and bizarre because they have a lot greater flexibility to introduce a lot more evidence. >> gary, what do we know about the victims at the center of this case? >> yeah. the two victims, and this is a very interesting part of this case, did not testify. they got guilty verdicts without the victims testifying. they're now 16 and 21 years old in real life. they did not testify because they're scared to. we believe they're still members of the flds. you may wonder, how are they doing? we asked the attorney general of texas how are they doing? and he said, we have reason to believe they're safe. that means to me, there's a lot of good people in the flds that are not like warren jeffs. and they are with reaso

at this point mr. jeffsected and sermonized so much in this trial, you wonder what the impact is on the jury. juxtapose that with this tape where you have this meek little girl talking and mr. jeffs apparently having sex. it was very impactful, i think, for all of us in the courtroom today. >> and gary, he called as his first witness a member of the flds, but he still hasn't addressed the allegations against him, right? >> that's right, anderson. we didn't know he would call a witness. then all of a sudden he call one of his followers, a guy we know. it basically felt like an flds sunday school session, the book of mormon was brought in as their first piece of evidence. they basically read the book of more mon to each other. warren jeffs defense is not that he didn't have this sex. his defense is this is a violation of his freedom of religion. and he got his witness, the member of his church, to say that yes, throughout history mormons religion has been violated. but then, when the prosecution cross-examined

juxtaposed to mr. jeffs sermonizing them.one point he tells them to take their clothes off, then gives them instructions, very graphic instructions on how they're to shave their bodies, and telling them that when they come to him they should shower in advance, provided that he might call them to service. so as gary alluded, it really is more of a sex tape than anything else. and i think it certainly had the most emotional impact today. >> and flora, forrout audio was the clincher of the trial. how so? >> well, you know, it's so, so disturbing on so many levels. and what's really disturbing for me is now to think that there are these 12 girls that have been introduced to this perverse sexual deviant and think that this what is god has ordered. that their lives should be like. and my big worry right now is what kind of help are these girls going to get? they're still trapped inside this cult. they aren't getting help. and that's one of my big worries right now. >> flora, you were inside this and you saw it from the inside. what

mr. jeffs, you've got 20 minutes. mr. jeffs, you've got 15, 10, 5.e stood there trying to stare down the jury. and here we are in penalty and he asks to leave. judge walter has been very careful in ensuring the integrity of the record. >> he's not a lawyer either. what does he know about the law and representing himself, richard? >> but, joe, before the united states constitution was ratified, individuals had the absolute right to represent themselves in court. it's absolutely in our history from before the constitution. so he had the right to do this. the judge questioned him on it, are you sure? you should have counsel. i'm recommending you have counsel. it's a bad idea to represent yourself. and some great attorneys, clarence darrow represented himself. other attorneys tried to do it in the past, including yours truly. but he wasn't convicted. they said, leave california, and we'll drop everything. and that's what clarence darrows did. he was fully apprised. he decided to do it. it's not going to be reversed because he represented himself. it may

. >> mr. jeffs, do you think you can win this case? >> reporter: spiritual leader, warren jeffs, has been jailed now for nearly five years an faces trial on three charges including aggravated sexual assault on a child, charges to which he's pled not guilty. the people of the flds are convinced that there is nobody on earth closer to god than warren jeffs. they believe that jeffs, even behind bars, is the mouthpiece of god, that words he utters are divinely inspired. law enforcement authorities have long been worried what would happen if jeffs told his followers to do something violent and dangerous. >> i've never seen it like this before. i've been here for seven years and i've never seen things so unstable and so lawless. i consider this the most lawless town in the country. >> reporter: sam brower is a private investigator and writer who's been following the polygamous sect closely for nearly a decade and who's written a book about the flds called "prophet's prey." do you think there are comparisons to be made like to the taliban or

today, after he called his first witness and the witness left the stand, the judge said mr. jeffs your second witness. he stayed silent. after three minutes the judge then rested his case, and some think that might leave some room for an appeal, listen. >> three minutes is not inordinate amount of time. he has continually asked for continuances. i believe to a certain extent this judge has been a little bit heavy handed with a defendant who is not represented by anyone. >> maybe a little heavy handed. but that said, a successful appeal remains a very big long shot. shep? >> trace gallagher in los angeles. thanks. police say they are trying to break down masked intruder, chained a fake bomb to her neck. happened yesterday in sydney, australia. the video here shows paramedics wheeling that child into the hospital after that ordeal. for hours and hours. no one knew whether the bomb is real. we're told the 18-year-old was afraid to move at all that whole time and her parents say she held up beautifully. i can tell you we as parents are extraordinarily proud of maddy, she is woken up t

. >> why don't you look at us, mr. jeffs? ists he's being persecuted for religious beliefs the state claims he's a sexual predator that needs ay f jeffs' first witness on the stand, a female member of his church who said that her eternal salvation depended on her "following training." jeffs also entered the book ofof mormo& rob, tanya? >> oh, man. >> he does have 10,000 followers who believe that they will go to heaven and he's a prophet of god. >> it's kind of crazy. and he says, in addition to firing his legal team, he's also tried three times to have the judge in the case removed and says god told him the judge in the case will get a fatal, crippling kind of illness. >> creepy. >> a lot of kool-aid. >> absolutely. >>> in other news, a ruling by a judge in florida means that casey anthony can continue her undercover life for now. anthony hasn't been seen since leaving jail last month following her acquittal on murder charges. a judge had ruled she was to return to florida today to start serving probation for check fraud. but

mr. fix-it. john: jeff, in the republican party then it's between the establishment and the tea party. the theory was that perry would work for both camps. he appeals to the tea party but he was the executive experience and is it -- is pro-business. is there a feeling among republicans that he might be too hot for a general election? >> good distinction. a few of those comments are but overall i think he's not too hot. he fills the stage, obviously and he has a passion and some of the anger. but for the general -- general election, one thing he's never done in texas, he isn't a crossover candidate. even though he was a democrat until like 1991 or 1992 so he has sort of both things. but i think that what he's saying now, you're absolutely right, karen, he is sharpening the edges and there is no independent voter or very few who is going to gravitate toward that message. which is why mitt romney is sitting back, watching this all unfold. he is just fine with this for now. but they don't know exactly how far governor perry is going to get which is why the romney campaign is keeping an eye

jeffs continues in texas. utah authorities now want to see all the evidence the lone star state has gathered mr. polygamist warren jeffs spend a long time in prison? is it legal will handicap the trial. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. captions by closed captioning services >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. terrorism and the tea party. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. in a very coordinated effort, the far left in america is once again trying to marginalize the tea party in the eyes of nonideological americans, which is most of the voting public. you may remember that the radical left tried to brand the tea party racist but that attempt failed as the election last november demonstrated now the uber left legions are at it again. a debt compromise with terrorism. >> it's like a form of economic terrorism. i imagine these tea party guys are like strapped with dynamite standing in the middle of times square at rain shower and saying do you it -- rush hour you do it my way or we will blow you and the r

mr. secretary, it's jeff glor. quite a few headlines bringing up the words double dip recession. is that fair? is that on the table at this point in time? >> i would have said last week or the week before, probably not. i think we are up to 50/50 in terms of probability. a lot of people thought that once the debt ceiling crisis was over, once there was no problem with regard to defaulting on the nation's debt, that everybody would breathe a sigh of relief, relief. but actually the opposite response. what has happened essentially is that many on wall street, many economic analysts, em peopmany understand fundamental the new budget deal has tied the hands of the government making it more difficult for the government to respond to this crisis in aggregate demand. the fact people are not spending enough with additional boosts to the economy. >> so then based on the picture you paints, if the government's hands are more tied than ever and because we are a consumer-driven economy is there anything any lawmaker from any party could do to actually spur job growth? >> erica, i think what

mr. bridges was here earlier. >> charlie: jeff bridges. >> talking about doing music. somewhere, you can probably look it up on the computer, there's a love i've been loving a lot. all life is trying to be art and all art is trying to be music. and the musicality and the words, if i had a life to live again as jeff was saying, maybe it would be all about music. i didn't have the skill sets, i get to pretend to be an opera singer. how much fun is that, i don't have to do all that work. but you know, the skill sets of opera singers are breath taking or conductors, real musicians. and but i think you should observe a really good writer in the same way a musician observe a good piece of music. those indications are the same as musical. >> american actors very often, because a lot of film and tv acting techniques have invaded theatre, so appending to each line happens more than it should. i like the formal language of theatre writing. it's different medium. >> it's totally different. >> it's the language that creates the world. >> in a television show when you try fit dialo

jeff bridges for the hour, the dude, this is "piers morgan tonight." is it possible to have a 40-year career in hollywood makeover, 60 movies, and still have a reputation as mr. nice guy? well apparently it is if you are jeff bridges and he joins me now to test this theory. everybody tells me in the business and out, you're the nicest guy in show business. how do you plead? >> i'm going for guilty. >> have you always been easy to work with? because the running theme of all of your co-workers have you seem to be the nicest guy to work with. >> yeah, i think i have, you know. i take my lead from my old man, lloyd. lloyd bridges, you know. my dad. >> yeah. great man. >> who loved showbiz so much and, you know, i got to work with him as a kid. whenever there was a role for a little kid, he would say, come but i larry is to rent you know, that's -- that really is a good tip. >> have you learned that or have you -- i notice an interesting career path. you're taking this year off to do music but you also made ten movies before you were really convinced you wanted to do this at all. >> absolutely. >> the tear in your life has always been between the music and movies

we are joined by the mayor of patterson, jeff jones. mr. mayor, thanks for joining us. what is your biggest concern right now? >> well, the biggest concern right now is the fact that folks didn't take it as seriously as we had announced it and that's understandable. this is one of the record floods we have ever had. we're now finding more folks who are in the path of danger than one could imagine. the expanse of the flooding has almost doubled on both sides of the river. we've lost all of our bridges, so there's only one way in and one way out, and any vehicle traffic is now only adding more to the congestion. we're just dealing with communications and trying to get people out. >> reporter: how many people, i have heard hundreds of people have already been evacuated, right? >> as of 9:00 last night, when we went to bergen community college, the designated center by the red cross, there were 200 to 300 focus lks en route. this morning i got a number of 850. we just had to evacuate presidential boulevard, four buildings, 20 stories, 15 apartments each floor. that's the eq

jeff in georgia writes, mr.afferty, if my only other choice is a secular liberal democrat empty suit from illinois, hawaii, kenya, indonesia, then the choice is clear, perry 2012. richard writes, absolutely not. i'm sick of these phony baloneys, these people ought to have to take a test before they can run for president. did you see rick perry's grade transcript from texas a&m? a pretty boy he was. and nan from facebook, perry prayed for rain, we didn't get a drop. he prayed for the economy on saturday in houston. the dow dropped 600 points on monday. maybe a higher power's trying to tell us something. if you want to read more on this, you can go to the blog cnn.com/caffertyfi cnn.com/caffertyfile, or and we're starting to get more posts on facebook, you can go to "the situation room's" facebook page and read comments there as well. that's it, wolf. see you tomorrow. >> good work, jack, see you tomorrow. >>> well, watching wall street is not for the faint of heart. jeanne moos is next. that one day on the red hi

mr. president. and our thanks to john donvan. and finally tonight, there is a verdict in the trial of warren jeffs, the leader of a polygamous religiouss accused of sexually assaulting two children, little girls. his followers claim are his wives and what they call celestial marriages. after a week-long trial in texas the 55-year-old jeffs was found guilty on all counts. could face more than 100 years in prison. early on, jeffs fired his defense team and chose to represent himself, going on rambling diatribes. prosecutors introduced dna evidence and audiotapes on which they said jeffs could be heard taking advantage of a 12-year-old girl. well that is our show for tonight. thank you for watching abc news. we hope you check in on "good morning america."

edition of conversations with great minds i'll talk with jeff sessions russell a man who's worn different ads with his story and author approach to mr presidential speechwriter talk about how president obama may soon be facing a crisis with the supreme court when franklin roosevelt's work on holiday play out and the recent inability or instability on wall street is on pretty evidence our economy is not on the up and up so are we still experiencing the sting of the two thousand and eight recession or is this the second republican great depression. replies conversations with great minds i'm joined by jeff schussel whose work you are probably familiar with even if you don't instantly recognize his name jeff is an historian a communications strategist gifted speech speech writer former cartoonist in one thousand nine hundred seventy joined the clinton right house and rose through the ranks to become deputy chief speechwriter a rhodes scholar he holds degrees in history from both oxford and brown universities and print president clinton described him as one of the most eloquent historians of his generation he's written two books of ameri

mr. secretary. [applause] [unintelligible] [applause] that is a pretty good place to stop. do not that against america. you have to asked jeff immelt, the next speaker. >> to begin with, i will say jeff is the answer to the question, not bob reich. [laughter] i can only imagine what he would ask. our big need in this country is economic growth and jobs. jeff, you are serving as chairman of barack obama's jobs council. my question to you is what can be done in the short term to create jobs in this country, and more importantly, what can we do to regain our competitiveness and create jobs in the united states of america. >> we all would like to hear the answer to that. [applause] >> several live events to to you about this morning president chun to -- presidential candidate newt gingrich will be on c-span2 at 9:00 a.m. eastern. secretary of state hillary clinton and defense secretary leon panetta will be at the defense university to look at international challenges facing the u.s. had opt-in 30 eastern. -- at 10:30 a.m. eastern. >> in a few

with jeff thanks so much thank you tom new york times op ed column op ed columnist and nobel prize winning economist paul krugman wrote yesterday republicans will surely be emboldened by the way mr obama keeps folding in the face of their threats and surrendered last december extending all the bush tax cuts he surrendered in the spring when they threaten to shut down the government and he is now surrendered on a grand scale to ixtoc raw. over the debt ceiling now assuming that there was actually a debate between the president and the republicans about all these cuts and we just had two guests pushing back on that but assuming that that's the case paul krugman is right and president obama is about to lower a very tough russ or maybe not but here's the narrative that the president is pushing the narrative that the president has been promoting throughout his presidency basically is that compromise is what makes trans transformational presidents that his hero was abraham lincoln or ronald reagan that they were truly transformational presidents and that bill clinton wasn't and therefore he needed to compromise so is the notion that the great presidents of history were compromisers in

mr. reich, do you think this debt and deficit deal is bad for the economy in both the short and long terms? explain. >> well, jeff, it's good for the economy in terms of staving off a kind of a crisis that we almost faced with regard to a default on the full faith and credit of the united states, but it's not terribly good for the economy overall because it really does tie the president's hands in terms of a jobs bill that would stimulate jobs growth and fulfill kind of the mission of the government when, in fact, consumers and businesses are not able or willing to buy, or to sell, and that's the case now. the reason i think of the selloff on wall street, today, the great stock decline is because a lot of companies now realize that there is just going to be insufficient aggregate demand for all the goods and services that need to be sold. >> brown: john taylor, first, starting point, what do you see as the impact on the economy of the deal? >> i think it will turn out to be quite positive. people have been very concerned about exploding debt, the big increase in government spending over the last several years, an

mrs. davis can make every student feel like her only student. dell. the power to do more. >>> on "360," millions of >>> word tonight that polygamist leader warren jeffsn in a texas hospital. a source familiar with his condition told cnn he's in a coma. you'll recall jeffs, head of a fundamentalist offshoot, a mormon sect, was convicted earlier this month of sexually assaulting a 12-year-old girl and a 15-year-old girl and was sentenced to life behind bars. they said he was hospitalized last night. he was fasting so there wasn't enough liquid in his system. he has other medical issues as well. the booking photo with his head shaved was taken just after his conviction a few weeks ago. compare that to the older photo of him showing a full head of hair was from an fbi wanted poster a few years ago. can he still lead his church? is he still the leader? jeffs spent thousands of dollars on phone calls to his followers from jail effectively maintaining control over them. now he's a convicted sex offender in state prison and contact with the outside world is much more limited. right now that's not an issue as gary tuchman found out up close. >> reporter: warr

jeff bridges for the hour. the dude. this is piers morgan tonight. is it possible to have a 40-year career in hollywood makeover, 60 movies, and still have a reputation as mr. nice guy? everybody tells me in the business and out, you're the nicest guy in show business. how do you plead? >> i'm going for guilty. >> have you always been easy to work with? the running theme is that you're just the nicest guy to work with. >> yeah, i think i have, you know. i take my lead from my old man, lloyd. lloyd bridges, you know. my dad. >> yeah. great man. >> who loved showbiz so much and, you know, i got to work with him as a kid. whenever there was a role for a little kid, he would say, come on, get out of school, play with dad. you know, that kind of thing. but as an adult, i got to work with him twice on "tucker" and a movie called "blown away" and it was a little different experience, you know, as an adult i saw when he came on the set how much fun he was having and how that fun was kind of contagious, you know, and when you're having fun you kind of relax and your best work kind of bubbles out. >> and your mother actually came up with a similar to you, have fun i

jeff is joining us from amarillo, texas. caller: good morning. i was thinking that mr. perry should not apologize for anything that he honestly believes. if that is how he feels. we do not hear obama apologizing. we do not hear ronald reagan apologizing when he was president. there's not any reason to go back, "i did not mean something." this pc correctness is killing us. host: we will go to perry in fort worth, texas. go ahead. caller: i just want to cast my vote to repair a. i concur -- to rick perry. i concur. the media thinks his statements are inflammatory, but there are so many inflammatory statements from both sides. i concur with the last caller, that if believes that in his heart, say it. it is a good read, and i would suggest that rick perry look to our neighbor, louisiana, and pick him for vice president. host: according to this resolution early gop primary poll, rick perry with 29% of the poll, mitt romney, 18%, michele bachmann, 13%. all of you can comment on our facebook page. if you go to facebook.com \ c- span. some ofon the vaccination, heree washington

mr. secretary. [applause] that is a pretty good place to stop, i think. you now have to ask jeff, the heavy heat. he is the next guest. >> i am asking the question. i can only imagine what he will ask you. my question is simple. today, we talked about our big need in this country, economic growth and jobs. jeff, you are serving right now as chairman of barack obama's jobs council. my question to you, what we need to do, what can be done in the short term to create jobs in this country? and more importantly, in the longer term, what do we need to do to maintain competitiveness and create jobs in the united states of america? [applause] >> c-span has been following the gop 2012 presidential candidates at the iowa state fair, and we will show you some of their remarks at 8:00 eastern time. we will tell you -- to bring live coverage starting at noon eastern with a preview and some of the history of the event that is in the thirty second year. a number of republican presidential candidates will speak as well, live from iowa state university. you can also listen on c-span radio or stream any time on li

mr. secretary. [unintelligible] [applause] that is a pretty good place to stop. do not that against america. >> to begin with, i will say jeffe answer to the question, not bob reich. [laughter] i can only imagine what he would ask. our big need in this country is economic growth and jobs. jeff, you are serving as chairman of barack obama's jobs council. my question to you is what can be done in the short term to create jobs in this country, and more importantly, what can we do to regain our competitiveness and create jobs in the united states of america. >> we all would like to hear the answer to that. [applause] >> president obama is on a three-day bus tour through iowa and illinois. he began in minnesota, about 40 miles south of minneapolis. he is now travelling into iowa where he will hold another town called -- town hall meeting. on tuesday, the president's will hold what be white house is willing our rural economic forum where he will be joined by the agriculture secretary tom vilsack, and he will wrap up on wednesday with town hall meetings in northwestern illinois before returning to washington. the white house says t