mr. keane: i agree with what fred is saying. there are groupsmark of them self-radicalalized or already radicalalized -- radicalized and they're motivated to take action. seen plenty of evidence of that. the longer you permit the organization to succeed, can you imagine what has gone out on the internet from isis around the world as a result of the success in ramadi and how that has motivated others that isis in fact is winning and they're standing up against the united states, they're standing up against these strong allies of the united states in the region and europe and they're actually winning. so this huge -- so there's huge danger there. as long as you let this organization stay and we don't decapitate it, then the motivation and inspiration of self-radicalization continues to grow, that's one thing. the second thing is in the region itself, and we showed on a map, they're moving into other countries, at the same time they're defending what they have in syria and iraq and expanding. this is what make this is organization

mr. keane: i agree in principle with what you're saying. just so our audience and the committee can understand, we may forget that early on in the move -- rebellion against assad, the momentum was on the opposition force's side. many in this town were predicting the regime would fall. i think we can all recall that. senator mccain: there was testimony before this committee by the secretary of defense and joint chiefs of staff. general keane: they needed arms specifically, antiaircraft weapons to deal with mitchell military. they were stuck with rifles, machine gun, r.p.g.'s and the like. that early encounter for the 2012 was denied, late 2011

mr. keane: i agree in principle with what you're saying. just so our audience and the committee can understand, we may forget that early on in the move against assad, the momentum was on the opposition force's side. many in this town were predicting the regime would fall. senator mccain: there was testimony before this committee by the secretary of defense and joint chiefs of staff. general keane: they needed arms specifically antiaircraft weapons to deal with conventional military, they were stuck with rifles, machine gun r.p.g.'s and the like. that early encount for the 2012 was denied, late 2011, early 012, and then the c.i.a. became convinced that we could actually vet the free syrian army and i will say that the institute for the study of war had some impact on provide them information that assisted them with that conclusion, and general petraeus would admit that as the director at the time. he presented a briefing to secretary clinton and panetta and dempsey, general dempsey and they agreed with him that this force could in fact be ar

keane. >> thank you, mr. chair i'd like to indicate for the record in regard to the materials that have been sent i've been send them to mr. shimming and had some february from mr. shin if his words he's in the loop on whaelz so the it don't make any difference being involved this is over the course of the last couple weeks has indeed been part of the overall process and they're aware of it and aware of the differences in the languages and are invited along with mr. minority to go ahead and make their own submissions as to the changes and certainly this is the progress we'll continue over the course felt next month the city attorney's office is part of the package here i just like to add one other thing in regard to one of the things that commissioner hur said with all due respect i am glad that mr. mel stack is here we ought to let the board do this i don't think so we heard mr. mel history of the very unfortunate incident that is going to be characteristic of the way the board of supervisors as a perspectiv

mr. keane: that was followed by embassy bombings in africa, the u.s.s. cole and 9/11. to date, we've gone through three administrations and we've never developed a comprehensive strategy to deal with it. we're sitting here today without one. despite all that killing. despite all of the aggressiveness and assertiveness this enemy has shown, we have always looked at this narrowly and it's tragic that we do. we're more sophisticated than that. yes, the solution is right in front of us. when you look at this map, look -- this is just isis. if i put al qaeda on the map it would be worse. this is a regional and global problem that can only be solved by those countries who are being affected by this. either directly or indirectly. this is not about the united states dealing with all of this. this is about the united states when we're hosting a conference like we just did as opposed to shaking hands and slapping everybody on the back which we did, we should have hosted a conference that came out with a strategy on what to do with this. plans on what to do with this. what is th

mr. chair. >> yes. >> commissioner president keane the chair remembers i asked to be recused so i will go ahead and leave i wanted to make one point put something on the record and i don't mean to influence anything that is occurred but i think since the last meeting on my voicemail at the law school i've had 8 phone messages from many stash i don't know what they were as soon as i recognized her voice i deleted it i don't have any idea not to perjury her but a matter of record i'm recused from that it is proper to do and perhaps the chair might indicate that is not a good idea with that, i'll take a seat. >> i believe commissioner hur you asked in a sense to have this matter whether or not we could look at the amending that was in question whether or not it was properly withheld and whether or not the conduct of respondent was such it waived whatever privilege might have existed the complainant is not here tonight but she has agreed we can go ahead with it; is that correct? >> yes. >> and i believe that the respondent is here is she not? yes >> do you- have you - has the looked at the looked at e-mail.

senator blumen that will: i agree -- senator blumen thaul: i agree -- senator -- mr. keane: i agree with what fred is saying. there are groupsmark of them self-radicalalized or already radicalalized -- radicalized and they're motivated to take action. seen plenty of evidence of that. the longer you permit the organization to succeed can you imagine what has gone out on the internet from isis around the world as a result of the success in ramadi and how that has motivated others that isis in fact is winning and they're standing up against the united states they're standing up against these strong allies of the united states in the region and europe and they're actually winning. so this huge -- so there's huge danger there. as long as you let this organization stay and we don't decapitate it, then the motivation and inspiration of self-radicalization continues to grow, that's one thing. the second thing is in the region itself, and we showed on a map, they're moving into other countries, at the same time they're defending what they have in syria and iraq and expanding. this i

mr. chair if i may. >> commissioner president keane. >> this is something the commissioner commission or at least the commission has initiated the chair appointed an ad hoc committee me to go ahead and report on those things to make recommendations i've done that and now i'm asking that the process go forward in regard to the work of that ad hoc committee me with the staff and will have some sort of outcome as a result of that i'm not sure what you're saying when you say should the staff just take over i don't know where our coming from. >> commissioner recount. >> my understanding is that if typically the staff does the drafting and write a memo why we're doing this the particular changes the pitfalls and then we'll make a vote on this is an unusual process again, i appreciate you know commissioner president keane's been able to desolate so much times but the staff needs to take a role a memo from them and having involvement is more to my view i know that the staff has other things going potentially that's a problem but i'd like not wanted to go forward with the staff not fully vetted. >> if i could say. >> th

mr. rose colleagues, any questions. >> commissioner president keane. >> thank you. i guess if someone can respond to the budget analyst recommendations. >> is someone from the sheriff's department here? >> good morning, supervisors. >> thank you my name is kathy i'm the chief deputy sheriff we've asked for predicament salaries and move it into your offer time budget with the intent hundred thousand dollars would be spent 0 on two needs anticipate before june 30th of this year those two needs are anticipated increase in the work order for the department of public health for a site up the project that involved the new hospital we expected additional staffing and in order to accommodate that request and not have to come back we anticipated that additional cost be factored into the four-$.2 million and the citywide event that have not occurred in early april those event range from incarceration to black lives matter event in order to staff those we've submitted a request for appropriations. >> have you spelled out when dennis herrera we're almost at the end. >> it is im

mr. rose colleagues, any questions. >> commissioner president keane. >> thank you. guess if someone can respond to the

mr. chairman, senator keane, many others have highlighted this but we need to do something about it. the gap between mr. obama's stated goals and what we're actually doing to shape the environmental on the ground is alarming. in my view we need to accelerate that which the administration proposed and you funded, the training and equipmenting of third-way forces. with need to link these efforts to the broader regional dynamics. what's happening in syria right now is a very complicated thing by actors in the region. if you see the gains of isis but al qaeda's front these gains don't come from nowhere. they're being offered support from various actors in the region and the main point is that the end state in syria which is often described by the administration in ways that our tactics don't link up with what we want to achieve. but the overall point we want to achieve with iraq and syria and i hope you take away and we need to discuss more, how do you link these problems and how do you address them? what worries me is we look at a challenge to iraq or corner of iraq but we don't link it

okay so commissioner president keane i'll ask you to report >> thank you, mr. chair in my report itself it pretty much sets out the history of what we've done since the last meeting you've appointed me as an ad hoc committee recommending to two matters whether or not prop j should be rewritten in different enacts with the ballet this year, and, secondly, whether or not we should put together a regulations of expenditure lobbyist i'll submit it to the ballet this year as said in the report with my discussions with the chair the chair and i came to agree that the effort was two big to do all of this this year we couldn't do it to have it on the november ballot so in regards to prop j that is put off to another day hopefully, we'll under take this in the late summer for whatever rewriting write you think it appropriate and to submitted a ballet measure for 2016 church lobbying regulation is not a simple matter as purple heart put forth it creates a category of expenditure lobbyists which had existed really before the commission had struggle everything down into on

mr. chair to underscore i didn't think we should support commissioner president keane's having been to the process on both ends i believe there is a benefit for them helping them thinks what you're wanting to prefer and prefer if a commitment is something novice to have when you order in those ways those few minutes agos of the job that are essential to the job and they help guide our thought it is for us could only benefit us if i could add d h.r. is happy to partner with the commission as much as possible. >> i'll appoint might have and ad hoc committee responsible for that working with h.r. to moving forward forward. >> sound like an excellent selection. >> we'll start working on that okay. >> for a supplemental or two where we can move. >> thank you, thank you very much sorry. >> no problem. >> public comment. >> any public comment. >> hello. >> larry bush from friends of ethics i was involved in the selection of the first two executive directors we crude from new york and the points that you've made commissioner renne and commissioner hur you urge to a e have a process or soliciting c

mr. william keane of massachusetts. >> thank you for holding this hearing. i want to let you know we all share your commitment to saving lives saving religious and cultural heritages and artifacts and stopping human trafficking. i want to acknowledge the legislation of chairman royce, ranking member angle mr. smith, who i am proud to join but i want to focus on one thing i believe that we can do more of in the us to stop this these terrible actions. and that is to look at an issue that time and time again has come to my attention as ranking member on terrorism trade and nonproliferation as well as counterterrorism and homeland security. that is the issue particularly in iraq and syria but it is doubling down upon that activity. they are trafficking in looted antiquities and financing heroin terrorist operations. it becomes cyclical. i saw firsthand just how this is occurring. in fact there were comments from the leaders in these areas how smuggling in these antiquities is such a force of financing for terrorists. so what i am doing today as well as introduci