mr. mcinnis. what was- guest: motivating president obama to pursue this deal was what i believe is the doctrine that he sees in cuba and in iran, which is it is not about the details of the deal, but the ability to bring iran into the international community and iran will become more moderate. it is not about centrifuges, but about bringing iran into the rest of the world. it is an attractive idea. i understand that. there is a possibility that could happen. at the same time, this is a regime that is keenly aware that the challenge of integrating into the national -- international community is going to be. you see the supreme leader is very vocal about the fact that he believes president obama is pursuing the deal so he can infiltrate the country with western ideas, western political thought, western economic commitments and dependencies to eventually undermine the regime in tehran. this is a country that underwent the 2009 protests. they are very capable of keeping a very tight lid on the country

mr. mcinnis.hat was- guest: motivating president obama to pursue this deal was what i believe is the doctrine that he sees in cuba and in iran, which is it is not about the details of the deal, but the ability to bring iran into the international community and iran will become more moderate. it is not about centrifuges, but about bringing iran into the rest of the world. it is an attractive idea. i understand that. there is a possibility that could happen. at the same time, this is a regime that is keenly aware that the challenge of integrating into the national -- international community is going to be. you see the supreme leader is very vocal about the fact that he believes president obama is pursuing the deal so he can infiltrate the country with western ideas, western political thought, western economic commitments and dependencies to eventually undermine the regime in tehran. this is a country that underwent the 2009 protests. they are very capable of keeping a very tight lid on the country a

host: our guests are here to talk this is just over an mcinnis and trita parsi of the national for having us. host: mr. parsi, let's start with you. what's the significance of senate democrats signing on for president obama's deal and the ability to keep it veto proof. what does that signify. guest: it signifies that the deal avoids two disasters. the disaster of a war with an iran and the disaster of an iranian nuclear bomb. moreover, the more votes they get, the stronger the durability of the deal. the credibility of this deal had been damaged by the fact that this fight in congress erupted and became partisan as it is. so by the president being able to secure the veto it means the united states is in line the wo