mr. pilpel may have hung up. secretary fuller can you follow up with mr. pilpel on his comments perhaps i would like to see inright him to appear before the commission, say hello and perhaps that's a time to hear more or as commissioner segal suggested submit something written we can review and a memo or whenever? >> or from the city add administrator's office this is more like what he is talking about how i don't think we want to take up secretary fuller's time on this. but a question how this actually works now that we are into and committed to a structure. i can suggest mr. pilpel put comment in writing and express the interest of having him appear before the commission as well. he may comment on a later item. fasz that on to the city administrator. >> commissioner, sorry. i'm not sure if that now we are under your oversight we are not under the city administrator's umbrella any longer i'm not sure if that is the right avenue. what i recommend if i may is let's hear the feedback and once have you a greater idea of if you like to make changes or take that

mr. pilpel may have hung up. secretary fuller can you follow up with mr. pilpel on his comments perhaps i would like to see inright him to appear before the commission, say hello and perhaps that's a time to hear more or as commissioner segal suggested submit something written we can review and a memo or whenever? >> or from the city add administrator's office this is more like what he is talking about how i don't think we want to take up secretary fuller's time on this. but a question how this actually works now that we are into and committed to a structure. i can suggest mr. pilpel put comment in writing and express the interest of having him appear before the commission as well. he may comment on a later item. fasz that on to the city administrator. >> commissioner, sorry. i'm not sure if that now we are under your oversight we are not under the city administrator's umbrella any longer i'm not sure if that is the right avenue. what i recommend if i may is let's hear the feedback and once have you a greater idea of if you like to make changes or take that

mr. pilpel brought up during public meant. this we are just all first year of operating like this and should go back and evaluate how it is working hear from staff on it. and i mean before we look into the budget which you are looking into all the time. but how this is working. i suggest there might be a way to get us together men not all but ash pointed by 3 different bodies. with our represent of the appointing body and top staff. for some progress report of how it is working. and then any back to the drawing board and evaluate how this huge department, which is so critical to san francisco. how we -- how this transition worked. if we are fulfilling what our new responsibilities are and when the charter called for. this is not for you to answer but that's a common thread of what -- is going on. no performance review for us we had it for the second and one for the director and how -- how is the commission performing? thank you, commissioner segal. i would like to suggest is early in august we will be having a joint session wi