mr. pompeo, it is a little bit over russia. host: and pompeo, who has been selected by the president to gove as head of the cia and to the head of the state department. talk about his reputation. is he someone that world leaders are likely to put their trust in, maybe more than rex tillerson? the centralhat is point. he does have a good relationship with the president. they did know each other before the election. daily basis, key has been briefing him as director of the cia. that does matter when speaking to foreign officials because they will have more of a sense that when mr. pompeo is saying ask, it is something that the issident -- is saying x, it probably something that the president agrees with. lawrence is on the independent line from syracuse, new york. good morning. caller: could you talk more on the grid. i am concerned. could you talk about what happened if people were to hack into it? i have heard people have the capability to attack a nuclear it could have a malfunction and could explode. could you talk more about

mr. pompeo. and mr. has a lot of knowledge about the region, a lot of knowledge about the kim regime. i think he'll offer him good advice and be very helpful. >> jon: also want to talk about the stop school violence act. it would give grants that would enhance cooperation between law enforcement and school staff, teach both of them how to spot warning signs of potential school shooters. will it be enough do you think? >> i'm not sure. you know, i -- to be honest with you, i'm skeptical of new federal programs for situations like this one. primary and secondary education, k-12 public education system, is a creature of state and local government. it's not an area where the federal government is actively involved, nor do i think it's one where the federal government should be actively involved. how people secure a school in one community, one state, one part of the country or another is going to vary. even within my own state. how you secure a school in salt lake city might vary dramatically from rural utah

mr. pompeo can improve on mr. tillerson's management of the state department, but what concerns me more is that, as you've just mentioned, pompeo has much more hawkish views about iran and north korea. right now, we don't have a nuclear crisis with iran, but if mr. pompeo as secretary ends up being a yes man to the president's worst instincts, it's very possible that two months from now, we will have two nuclear crises with both the iran and north korea. and that concerns me. >> so, bobby, this is important, because the president seems to think that everybody involved in the nuclear -- in the iran nuclear deal was an idiot. in thinking that iran would suddenly become the world's best neighbor. that's not true. iran's got lots of problems. you can call them names or do whatever you want. but the fact is that we have a deal with iran that we cannot unilaterally remove ourselves from. and there are a lot of fears that while we're on the edge of the possibility of a deal with north korea, scuttling the iran deal could

mr. pompeo actually strengthens the u.s. position because before pompeo has been -- mr. has been strong supporter of president's position with respect to kim jong-un. all that said, the key person really in these upcoming talks as most people recognize is the president himself. it's been his strategy of maximum pressure along with strong rhetoric backed up with u.s. power that has really forced kim jong-un to come to the realization that he needs to sit down and talk or else, consequences reason very much different than the last 25 years worth of talk by previous administration. >> julie: you're right. 25 years of talk and no action. despite verbal and written agreement. this administration has done things differently. why do you think kim jong-un is willing to talk at this time? what is his motivation? >> the one thing, tomb two things that really only one to mr. kim is importance of his maintaining control over his regime as well as his personal survival. what the president has made very clear to the north korean leadership is look, you got one or two options. you can

mr. tillerson would be repctced by cia di mike pompeo. mr. tillerson famously refused to deny that he once called his boss a moron. he spoke today of maintaining continuity at the state department. issecretary tillerson: wha most important is to ensure an orderl during a time that the country continues to face significant policy and national security challenges. laura: rex tillerson speaking earlier. the buildup up to his departure been aetary of state has long one. our north america editor jon pel explains. jon: rex tillerson was flying back overnight to washington from a long trip to africa when the normally buttoned upet sey of state cut loose with journalists. but unbeknown to him, the president had signed his death warrant, and it would be death by tweet. mike pompeo, director of the cia, will become our new secretary of state -- he will do a fantastic job. thank you to rex tillerson for his service." but tillerson isn't on twitter, so, excruciatingly, it fell to his chief of sff to ring him to inform him of his demise. only this after t

mr. pompeo is a veteran. h.r. mcmaster was a generalished general, kelly, the chief of staff is a remarkable american military veteran. i am confident that our system, despite these troubled times, will hold. host: formery schmitt, executive director of the foreign intelligence advisory board -- you can see that on their app. thanks for joining us. chest but thank you. journal"'s "washington live every day. sunday morning, former nsc director jeffrey edmonds the double poisoning of an agent in britain and his continued meddling in u.s. elections. then the debut of our series, 1968. a discussion of the major political and diplomatic developments in the vietnam war. be sure to watch c-span's "washington journal." join discussion. >> monday, on "landmark cases," plessy versus ferguson where plessy, in african-american, was arrested in new orleans for taking a seat on a train reserved for whites. the decision established these equal doctrine. this narrow interpretation of amendment was not overturned until brown versu

pompeo someone who obviously is very smart. he also have very partisan but i think above all mr. trump values loyalty and i think mike pompeo has demonstrated that. >> what's he going to be like toward the russians? >> that's a good question. i think when pressed he has had to say that he certainly supports the cia assessment about russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, and he has met with his russian counterparts. i hope he's going to take a very firm and hard line with the russians. i think russian activities continue around the globe. i see recent indications of the u.k., the russian reports of the poisoning of the individual and the daughter. i think it's currently important for the secretary of state if he is confirmed to hold a hard line and also make sure that donald trump understands just how dangerous the russians can be and the need to demonstrate strength and resolve toward them. >> of course this move creates a vacancy at your beloved former headquarters in langley, virginia. pore th for that the president has put for the name of gina haspel, not witho

mr. pompeo pushed into office created a little confusion. a little inflation beats a modest amount of deflation. thankfully we're getting a bit of inflation at this point. >> said, it created a little confusion. i get annoyed with investors sometimes that they overreact. they're not really overreacting with the market down 64 points, not entirely a big deal but nonetheless, it feels, dennis, they react so strongly to things. the tariffs were a great example. they reacted in very negative way initially. it took time for them to come to terms to say this isn't the end of the world. why are we seeing such violent moves? >> i am one of those people who tend to react a little bit because i live in the world of news every moment. the tariffs terrified me, i must admit. trish: you weren't watching intel then? you should have been watching intel and we would have cautioned you to be not overly worried. your thoughts. >> i'm antagonistic to tariffs to begin with. the market is not only one that is putting tariffs into effect. europe has a great deal

mr. pompeo's had some rather harsh words for russia. haspel, deputy director of the cia's russia group. this is what mike pompeo said last june in an interview with msnbc's hugh hewitt. >> the intelligence community has said that the election was meddled with by the russians. in a way that is frankly not particularly original. they've been doing this for an awfully long time. we're decades into the russians trying to undermine american democracy. >> what mike pompeo's appointment need for the russia investigation? could it impact the ongoing investigations? >> i don't know if it impacts the investigation, but it may impact the trump administration's policies towards russia. rex tillerson, remember, had a cordial relationship with vladimir putin. mike pompeo, while he did engage in some political baiting with wikileaks during the campaign, has been pretty tough with russia and he's reflecting the intelligence he's getting from the cia. and gina haspel, the new cia director, as you said, deputy director of the cia's russia group. has a very conventional view of russia as a dangerous advers

asked for meetings and mr pompeo is very clear. with his aggressive strategy i don't think the. young woman will be agree to such a strategy so i see more problems in the future then risk strategy of missed a telephone call to follow in washington as you would expect from from any secretary of state never my one who's only been in post for just over a year still lots of unfinished business syria iraq isis china what sort of secretary of state has rex tillerson they. that's a very difficult question or the answer to this is a bit complicated i think apart from old these areas of foreign policy that you mentioned. that of course is very important for a secretary of state but i think the most important project for rex tillerson was the reform of the state department itself i mean he comes from the private sector and he wanted to apply his experience there to this big bureaucracy and all that is still very much in the early stages not even of implementation but of planning a lot of poe's unfilled it's very much unfinished business so. definitely rex tillerson to the outside world wa

mr. pompeo did. and mr. ly, came up through the political side of the house and then was a member of congress. they're different people. they have different life experiences. i think they're both highly competent, efficient and effective, by the way. and they do trend hawkish. the idea that these are conjoined twins makes no sense. >> what will happen before this summit may take place. >> if it ever takes place. >> if it ever. >> thank you so much. appreciate the conversation. cnn exclusive, former playboy model, karen mcdougal speaking out, detailing what she says was a ten-month long affair with donald trump. she says she loved him and he loved her as well. this, just days before the highly anticipated stormy daniels' sitdown with anderson cooper this sunday for "60 minutes." all this as melania trump is holding an event as i speak in washington at the state department and people are wondering how is she feeling? how might she respond? back in just a moment. you might take something for your heart... or joi

mr. pompeo and mr. bolton bring when it comes to future discussions on the iran nuclear deal. guest: for the first year of the trump residency, there was a sense, after the initial shock when he came in, that the iran deal may be salvaged. proponents of the deal say it was a high water mark for u.s. diplomacy, even if it was controversial and not the perfect deal. obviously, detractors said, no, iran. too good of a deal, there are still a lot of threats besides their nuclear program, including support for terrorism, their ballistic missiles, groups like hezbollah and houthi militants. but there was a sense that the deal could be salvaged, or to clearly because iran was holding up its end of the bargain, straggly speaking. now that pompeo and bolton are coming in, there is widespread consensus that trump is about to pull out of the iran deal. even bob corker, chairman of the senate foreign relations committee, has says he expects trump to pull out, which is the new key deadline in the iran deal recertification. when that happens, there is a lot of consequences to look at. obvio

mr. pompeo now. what can we expect from him?he is a west point graduate, he also went to harvard law school, he has all the credentials. he was sort of swept into office in 2011 with the tea party movement. he is a hardliner and he has been from the start of his political career. he has contradicted tillerson on pretty much every issue about foreign policy. he is certainly seen as a hawkish kind of state secretary. so probably a rougher stance. brent: is the biggest difference on the state of the iran nuclear deal or north korea, or both of those? >> probably both. overall we are seeing is the beginning we had reince priebus and steve bannon as the d party -- deep party establishment. now they have entirely evaporated and what we're seeing is a series of ex-generals and hardliners. so the outlook has changed. brent: tomorrow a big day here in germany. the new german government is going to be sworn in and starting to get to work. angela merkel will be sworn in as chancellor before time. day one, are they force -- for the 4th time

mr. pomp w will work weh secretary mattis. both are military men. mike pompeo was first in his class at west point and served in the military.t i don'ink it will be a big difference of opinion. there may be difference of style in terms of how they go about resolving differences you might have betwe state and defense. laura: that was william cohen speaking with my colleague katty kay a little earlier. president trump says the u.s. is all in with britain following the poisoning of a former russian spy in the u.k., soaid downing street today after a phone call between mr. trump and theresa may that the president ministerith the prim that moscow must provide unambiguous answers on why a soviet nerve agent was used in the pricing. -- poisoning. denied any involvement, but the incident has created global backlash. james landale reports. bjames: it began as arutal attack on the streets of t salisbur poisoning of a former russian intelligence officer and his daughter that the u.k. blames on russia. but it has become a globalwi diplomatic row britain looking for allies

mr. pompeo has acknowledged the interference by the russians, and the president doesn't, doesn't say a bad word or any kind of word of accountability to vladimir putin? >> well, the interesting thing now is that every member of the president's national security cabinet and his national security adviser and director pompeo are concerned about the role russia played and about russia's role going forward. so the question now is whether, with the kind of trust that pompeo and trump appear to have between them, pompeo can help steer the direction of u.s. approach on this towards looking to the future and get the president to stop equating this issue with his own legitimacy, which is what is preventing a full whole of government u.s. approach to this with our allies. >> let's move on to the north korea negotiations and the frantic preparation that must be going on to prepare for this important summit. i spoke to another state department official who's been on the front lines of negotiations with iran and previously north korea, wendy sherman. to your point, this is what she said about it when it

now mr pompeo will take over this file and we will see how he does prepare for the talks, he is someonekes and trusts him. so in that sense the preparation will go smoothly between the state department and the white house in terms of what they will come up with, with regards to an agenda is something we don't know at this point. barbara plett usher. here, the chancellor philip hammond has delivered an upbeat assessment of the uk economy, claiming there's "light at the end of the tunnel" and hinting at possible public spending increases in the autumn. mr hammond delivered his spring statement to mps, saying growth and employment were up and inflation was set to fall. but labour accused the chancellor of ignoring a public sector funding crisis. here's our political editor laura kuenssberg. is there anybody out there? no 11 didn't want us to pay that much attention. no fuss, no frills. reporter: do you have good news today, chancellor? only the chancellor slipping off to work. the speaker: statement, the chancellor of the exchequer. but what was this, a cheery philip hammond rushing to his

mr. pompeo to have any trouble getting confirmed, correct >> no. >> no one?no, he's been confirmed previously by large numbers. >> no reason there >> will they allow it to happen. it's been delay tactic after delay tactic >> it's a great question so i don't think he'll have a problem with his colleagues. but you know, if you consider what's going on relative to russia, what happened, as the british government came out very aggressively against russia yesterday, you could see democrats trying to stall this mitch mcconnell, of course, has the votes to do it, but boy, if this stretched into the fall and we got into election season, it could be a different story >> i would think - >> he will be put through the paces in that confirmation process. >> i agree with that, john >> i expect he will be confirmed, butt rr not going to be easy. >> there will be a lot of questions for mr. pompeo, particularly given all of the moving parts in the world, most particularly and upcoming summit presumably between the north korean leader and the president. folks, thank you very m

mr pompeo said the meeting wasn't intended merely "for theatre".ng still remains a mystery. just two seats of one been won back by the pro—democracy camp in hong kong. the result means means one third of the seats in the chamber to veto legislation. a helicopter has crashed in new york's east river, killing 2 people and leaving one survivor who's injured. the federal aviation administration said the eurocopter as—350 went down near the northern end of roosevelt island at about 7 pm. local time and was reported to be upside—down in the water. emergency services have sent divers to the scene. syrian rebels say they won't surrender. it comes as government forces have captured more than half of a rebel enclave outside the capital damascus. more than 1,000 people are believed to have been killed since the area of eastern ghouta came under bombardment on the 18th january. thousands of civilians have been caught up in the violence, as andrew plant reports. syrian army tanks moving into rebel land on the outskirts of the capital. rebel soldiers driven out

now, mr pompeo, though, has always been seen as a hardliner.ficult and fraught negotiations to get north korea to denuclearise that's different from rex tillerson? i think because cia director pompeo has shown a great deal of affinity and respect, you know, and also a clear idealogical alliance with president trump in terms of their world views, he comes with unique advantages, i believe, compared to rext tillerson. i believe, compared to rex tillerson. we are currently in a situation where there are impossible standards and expectations being piled on with respect to the upcoming summit, so one of the things i think mike pompeo will need to do very quickly is to ensure there are some realistic expectations that are set so realistic expectations that are set so that his agency and his leadership and his boss, president trump, are not seen as failure as they encounter the north koreans in may. i do think that is a very difficult point right now that washington has to contend with, the fa ct washington has to contend with, the fact that there are

mr. pompeo will stand on russia and north korea? >> pompeo is a rush a hawk. -- russia hawk. he basically said the cia would be treating wikileaks as a hostile intelligence service. wikileaks was the forum that russian hackers used to obtain stolen the males from the democrats -- stolen emails from the democrats. combine that with the idea that the pentagon is now giving the ukrainians antitank missiles, pompeo has a lot that's a long history here and he will be tough on russia. tillerson came into the job having won that friendship medal from vladimir putin. after trying to reset the relationship to come back on the same square that hillary clinton landed on and before her we saw with condoleezza rice -- the russians burn us. we are seeing a much tougher russia.n it comes to tillerson wanted to preserve the option of talks. pompeo over the weekend said it is a great accomplishment. it is a question of tone and style. when tillerson was asked about this on history to africa, he said we are not there yet and it will take a long time. -- on his trip to africa, he said we are no

mr. pompeo will turn over a new leaf and start toughening up on policies toward russia and putin." back-and-forth from democrats and republicans continuing on this. a source close to mike pompeo says he's ready to take over the helm of secretary of state. over a new to turn leaf and fill key spots that were vacant for some time. vonnie: what about today's election? what's the anticipated result? it seems close. kevin: very close. let's pull up a monmouth university poll that shows conor lamb ahead. candidate donald trump carried this district by 20%. d.c. thinkinge in this is a political bellwether. vonnie: let's get back to dominic konstam, global markets strategist at deutsche bank. can you ignore all the machinations and swapping out and swapping in in washington, d.c.? there's a lot of turnover. dominic: yes. in this particular instance was tillerson's departure, i would separate a couple of things. the extent that this is around the politics of russia andtill', it's important, but slightly less directly relevant to the markets. as opposed to what's going on the fdiiffs, china,

mr. pompeo coming in as head of that agency. to know him, we work with him? is it important to have a top diplomat for this country? >> we have always worked with the secretary of state in march is the administrator the money there's an aids coordinator but a lot of that money is going out to cdc and so there is a deep collaboration there. it's the hiring of good people in the morale of the state department can be improved that would be a good thing. i will certainly go and meet the new secretary and talk about partnerships we've had and how we can manage those. >> one thing we haven't talked about a new interest of yours is alzheimer's, a lot of your work is a broad so doesn't touch the u.s. as much as it does in other places but what are you doing on alzheimer's and how could you have a big impact? >> the big thing and the u.s. is complicated but super important area. alzheimer's is unusual because there's a gigantic market. whoever creates a drug that creates tears alzheimer's will make billions of dollars. yet it's very difficult. it's the disease that th

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a final point, the appointment of mr pompeo, given that mr tillerson has been seen to be close to the been any particular sign that mike pompeo is hostile to the uk. he will understand the cia and the british foreign secret intelligence service does work closely together. he will understand the importance of that relationship in both directions. that augurs well in some senses. it will be interesting to see his first comments on whether he supports mr tillerson‘s view that russia was responsible for the salisbury attack. i‘m sure that is one of the first things he will be asked. thank you. the chancellor philip hammond has unveiled forecasts for higher growth, lower inflation and debt in his spring statement. he ruled out an immediate end to austerity, but hinted at possible spending rises in the future. in a break with recent tradition — this was not a ‘mini budget‘ and there were no major policy or tax and spending announcements. our political correspondent alex forsyth reports. there was no red box, no stopping for a photo call. is that a spring in your step? but the chancellor did

mr. pompeo coming in as head of that agency. do you know him or would you work with him commuting is important to have a top diplomat with the country? >> yeah, we always worked with the secretary of state. mark green is the administrator over at usaid. you know, there's an aids coordinator, but a lot of that money is going back to usaid in cdc. and so, there's a deep collaboration there. you know, if the hiring of good people and morale at the state department can be improved under new leadership, that will be a good thing. i will certainly go and meet the new secretary and talk about the partnerships we've had and how we can manage those. >> one thing we haven't talked about is a new interest of yours come a new priority of yours. a lot of your work is abroad, so it doesn't touch the u.s. as much as it does in perhaps sub-saharan africa. talk about what you're doing on alzheimer's and how you think you could have a big impact. >> yeah, for the foundation or big thing in the u.s.'s work in education. complicated, but super impo

mr. pompeo has a different view than tillerson or hr mcmaster or secretary mattis for that matter. the person who has a different view is the president and, therefore, that tension will continue even after this reshuffle. >> former u.s. ambassador to russia, michael mcphaul, thank you for your insights. >> thanks for having me. >>> tensions rise across the country as new information develops in two separate police shootings of black men, disturbing new video. >>> we'll talk to one of the organizers of sacramento march for action, former player matt barnes will join us. while i was overseas serving. it was my very first car accident. we were hit from behind. i called usaa and the first thing they asked was 'are you ok?' they always thank you for your service, which is nice because as a spouse you serve too. we're the hayles and we're usaa members for life. see how much you could save with usaa by bundling your auto and home insurance. get a quote today. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown

mr. pompeo's interest in representing american values through diplomacy, good government, anti-corruption. i want to know where he stands on rebuilding the state department with the expertise it needs, filling critical conditions, and yes, standing up in the white house telling the president what he needs to hear. there will be questions i will be asking during the confirmation process. >> so right now you're undecided, is that right? >> that's right, i always allow the confirmation process to go forward. i believe in the confirmation process. let's see the answers to his questions and see how he does in the confirmation process. >> what does it mean for the president's proposed talks for the north korean leader kim jong-un in the next two months? >> it's not only the absence of a secretary of state, we now have the absence of an ambassador in correspokorea. the president will not have the type of talent he should have around him as he enters into these negotiations. i don't think it bodes well for these talks. >> who do you blame for that hal l lowing out of the state department, all tho

mr. pompeo will toughen up or policies towards russia and putin. there was controversy over the president's pick to replace pompeo at the cia. gina haskell, a 32-year veteran. she came up through the ranks and a first time a woman has led the cia. she also played a big role in the cia black site operations in the early 2000s. the extraordinary rendition and water boarding. already opponents are lining up against her for her expected confirmation hearing. so there may be a little bit of difficulty on that front. one other personnel change that is raising eyebrows. the president's body man suddenly left the white house. departed under murky circumstances. we're trying to dig to the bottom of that. find out what happened. not a lot of people here know what really happened. so we'll continue to shake the bushes. the president on his way to california. he will be at the border to take a look at the prototypes for the wall and then we will hear from him and at the marimar station. you remember what that was special for, "top gun." just call me maverick. >

mr. pompeo will have to have.t it help when you have the president and the confidence and the respect from the commander in chief as well? >> absolutely. this is 50% on day one. if you have the support of the white house, chief executive, obviously, you can do much more. i'll take you back basically to the years of the bush administration. both the secretary of state and the white house were in line. yet the bureaucracy of the state department had different views, it did not change between clinton and obama. you have to have both, you have to have the support of the president but your own vision which is very important and also the team with whom you're going to be working with. charles: we know when pompeo was -- came out of kansas with a tough national security background, when he went into congress, people gave him high marks for tenure at the cia. what does it mean with respect to how tough will we be, the potential talks between kim jong-un and president trump. how hard of a line will the administration take

mr. pompeo, the cia director, who is now moved over to secretary of state. if confirmed, both of them are big opponents of the iran deal, and if the u.s. pulls out of the iran deal, you could imagine us getting back to where we were in 2013-2014 where there was concern about whether the u.s. or israel would take military action. similarly on north korea, you've had mr. bolton say the only way to go deal with the north koreans is to go in, see them, and tell them to turn over all their nuclear infrastructure. that's not going to happen just because you say it, and that could rise to a rapid confrontation as well. >> david sanger, thanks so much. >> thank you, fred. >>> adult film star stormy daniels tells all about her alleged affair with the president. how is the first lady taking all of this? new reporting on melania trump coming up. directv gives you more for your thing. your top-rated thing. that five stars, two thumbs up, 12-out-of-10, would recommend thing. because if you only want the best thing, you get the #1 thing. directv is rated #1 in customer sa

mr. pompeo from cia. what does it all say or mean to especially our allies overseas? these two gentlemen in these two positions? >> well, look, i think the job of the national security adviser is probably the most important foreign policy job in our government. sometimes even more than secretary of state. while the secretary of state is off conducting diplomacy, the national security adviser is the first one there in the morning, the last one to leave in the evening. he participates in every single briefing, every diplomatic engagement the president has. and he has a tremendous role on intelligence. one of the reasons in 2005 that he was not confirmed for his job as u.n. ambassador was because there was a concern that he had cooked intelligence and assailed intelligence and analysts who had come to him with briefings on cuba and other areas. it's not clear that he honors the impartiality of our intelligence professionals. >> jack, i want to take another whack at something, this notion of a preemptive strike. i'm asking you to scare to death the people watching tonight

mr. pompeo as the cia director because the main reason, the issue just raised. enhanced interrogation procedures violating our laws and international laws. that will be a question that will be asked during the confirmation process. we'll look at her past record but her commitment moving forward is an issue of concern. >> senator, i want to ask you about something that donald trump said about rex tillerson. he was complimentary of him but said we weren't always on the same page. mike pompeo and i are on the same wavelength. rex seemed to be willing to stand up to the president on certain matters. is it better the president is not at odds with his secretary of state or is it better there's a secretary of state who is willing to tell the president when he think he's not this the right place. >> you would hope the expertise of the state department as represent bid ted by the secret state would give an independent view to the president. their best saassessment and wha steps should be taken. you want the president to get that advice. obviously, the president can make

mr. pompeo? >> i think one difference will be that he won't try to disassemble it. he won't look at it and say, let's do this in a different way. the difference, though, he's politicized. he has a political point of view. he will try to direct the president inthe way tillerson is not. but he will be directing it probably away from the service directors there. >>> our thanks to ambassador mike mcfall, ashley parker, clint watts and rick stengel. a special note for rick stengel. his book "mandela's way" has just been reissued to coincide with what would have been nelson mandela's 100th birthday. congratulations on that, rick. >>> a day after one republican attorney joins the trump legal team, another big name dedecline the reporter who broke that story joins us next. >>> and later, if it's tuesday it must be a primary night somewhere. in fact, steve kornacki is with us tonight at the big board, and that would be the illinois results from this evening. "the 11th hour" just getting started on a tuesday night. i've made my ideas real. ♪ >>> we are back. new warnings toda

mr. pompeo says the president wants someone who is willing to break the usual way of doing things. in other words, it is not usually that a president will sit down with the leader of north korea, for example. but the president wants someone in there who is not going to keep him on doing the things the same way as previous administrations. >> well, sal, mike pompeii so reading his boss correctly. donald trump, president trump does not do things conventionally. on the other hand, mike pompeii has a very impressive background. head of the cia. so moving into the secretary of state job may be just perfect for him and he apparently sees eye to eye with the president. >> i don't want to interrupt you. but a lot of people say this guy should have been there to begin with. he is more qualified than tillerson ever was for this job. >> here is a guy that finished first, number one in his class at the military academy at west point. went to harvard. was an editor of the harvard law review. was a representative member of congress out of kansas. so he is bona fide. he is all squared away. maybe

mr. pompeo to say something or do something that undermines the president?tell you this, that i just came back from brussels. when i talk to our european allies, they no longer trust what anyone says because the president has contradicted his appointees time and time again. they say we'll wait to hear directly from the president. >> you say only time will tell. you've got a pretty good seat on the foreign affairs committee. you've had a chance to judge tillerson and look at what pompeo has done as well. based on what you see, do you see mike pompeo more in line with the president? >> no question he's more hawkish. the problem is at times i don't know where the president is or what he stands for. that's the problem. trying to figure it out, i've talked to some of his folks that's in and you try to figure out where the president stands, who knows? he stood one way on gun control when he had members of congress there, and then he had a meeting with the nra, didn't televise that, by the way, and he then seemed to come out another way. who knows where the preside

mr. pompeo, repeat after me. the iran deal was bad, but now it's good. for more, go to cnn.com/fareed, and read my "washington post" column this week. and let's get started. >>> it was a week filled with foreign policy intrigue in one fell swoop or one long tweet to be precise, the president fired his secretary of state and named a new one. he admitted to fibbing to the canadian prime minister, and of course, there is the big row between britain and russia over a spy poisoned on english soil. joining me now, david miliband, the former foreign secretary of the united kingdom, now president and ceo of the rescue committee. richard haass, the former director of policy planning at the state department. here with me in london is the editor in chief of "the economist." david miliband, what do you make of the tillerson firing? have you ever seen anything like it in all your years in diploma diplomacy? >> no. rex tillerson was inexplicably abusive toward his own department. he tried to take on the state department rather than with the state department. but the m

mr. pompeo? >> i think the one difference that is he will not be trying to disassemble the state department the way rex tillerson was. he's not a manager the way tillerson is, he's not going to look at it and say, let's try to do this in a different way. the difference is that he's politicized. he has a political point of view. he is trying to sometimes direct the president in a direction the way tillerson was not. i think they'll be happy not to be kind of tossed out on their heels. but they'll be nervous by the fact that he will be tilting in a certain direction, probably away from the direction of the foreign service officers there. >> our sincere thanks to our leadoff panel this tuesday night. ambassador mike mcfaul, ashley parker, clint watts, rick stengal, and a special notice about rick, who happens to be nelson mandela's biographer. his book "mandela's way" has just today been reissued to coincide with what would have been nelson mandela's 100th birthday. congratulations on that, rick. >>

mr. pompeo. we're in good shape.ave to be on guard with the neo-soviet thinking that comes out of putin. we are on guard. >> when a bully leader stands in front of a screen and play as video of a weapon it always, i always wonder about how overblown it is. we don't know about this video, do we know that this really happened, that it was very successful, that the bragging always gives me pause. >> we know a few things. first, putin often doesn't tell the truth. secondly, we know that there is a modernization effort ongoing. i think we also recognize or should recognize that this is a moment in time when being provoked is probably not the right answer. we should be the calm one in the room, the adult, and my great public diplomacy and private diplomacy in finding agreement. nine days ago the soviet soy yesterday went up with two american astronauts on it. we work on things together. give putin a little bit of room to understand we're not going to take -- we're not going to allow him to do anything that's outside the bo

mr. pompeo has a similar mindset. he is a hawk on trade.ted the tariffs the president implemented. he is also somebody who will go along with what the president wants. he will not be taking his own views to the world stage, or not being seen as someone who will do that. he needs confirmation from the u.s. senate. matt: is that the key that markets are concerned about, that pompeo goes along with donald trump's protectionist strategy, and that the president surrounds himself with yes-men so that no one disagrees with him? jodi: yes, that is a concern. there are people in this administration who are going along with the president, particularly on things like trade and tariffs and the america first-ism. this is something markets are concerned about. there may be more tariffs against china. this is a concern that some have expressed. the other thing is the issue of this revolving door. people leaving continuously. there is speculation about who maybe next, the veterans affairs secretary, maybe others in the state department. there is a concern

mr. pompeo may have a lot of experience with the substance, he has almost zero experience with diplomacy. and he goes into the super bowl, he just changes the quarterback. >> and a quarterback that has more experience than almost anybody in negotiating things at a high level is bill richardson. so bill, speak to the ambassador's point. i will put out of course what the white house has argued in rebuttal, which is precisely because you're heading towards high level goals in north korea and elsewhere, that you need a secretary of state who has the confidence of the president and the way it degraded. your view of that and what's on the horizon in north korea, generally, sir? >> well, my concern is the unceremonious way the secretary of state was ousted. not just on policy, but it was obvious that they didn't have a personal chemistry. my concern is north korea. and iran. the president has to decide may 12, whether he keeps the iran nuclear deal, i hope he does, because it is related to north korea. i think if he cancelled the iran nuclear deal, some are going to say, can we trust the preside

mr. pompeo's ability to stand up to the president of the united states and express a dissenting opinion aswho worked in the white house and somebody who sat in numerous meetings with president obama and his secretary of state john kerry, president obama thought very highly of secretary of state john kerry, they had a close personal relationship, but they did not always agree. secretary of state kerry never hesitated to express that disagreement when it was appropriate and president obama welcomed it because he believed that would give him better information to make a better decision. but you know, president trump obviously has very different criteria in mind. >> only about 30 seconds left. nick burns, the way this was done, though, sending such a signal around the world that unless you are dealing with the president himself, it's going to be very hard to understand what the signals are in foreign capitals. >> this was ungracious of the president, typically, and unworthy of the president not to even have a face-to-face discussion with rex tillerson to tell him he was out. and how is that go

mr. pompeo were on the same page. he clearly didn't think that was the case with secretary tillerson. for the president, they should give him some additional confidence in terms of direction he's moving. we are going to support the president's approach. we think you give him the benefit of the doubt on this. most certainly mike pompeo is a qualified individual. >> charles: thank you very much. appreciate it. the dow was off 250 today. concerned about potential trade war with china. i will tell you all about it later tonight. catch me on "making money." ♪ >> greg: i'm greg gutfeld with kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams, jesse watters. a pistachio shell is her canoe. dana perino. "the five" ." here's an experiment. type torture into google and what do you get? the odd snippets of hillary's speeches. you will see gina haspel, the first woman to be nominated to run the cia. a33 year vet. more than qualified to run the place with deep knowledge of our worst enemies and how to handle them. which means she must be stopped. on the other hand, there's controversy in her past. she was involved

mr. pompeo is well read-in in terms of intelligence, but he has no experience with dealing with the northns or asia generally and he has no experience as a diplomat. so he's going to have to be, you know, learn on the job and increase his ability to help the team here. i think our team is pretty week right now, moving into what is arguably up with of the most important diplomatic negotiations we have had in many decades. >> what he does have that tillerson did not have a close relationship with the president. >> that's right. >> we'll see if that changes things in any material way. michael mcfaul, thank you so much for joining us. thanks for sticking around. >> thanks for having me. >>> next up, new "washington post" reporting on what roger stone knew about wikileaks and the hacked e-mails and when he knew it. stay with us. ♪ gas, bloating, constipation and diarrhea can start in the colon and may be signs of an imbalance of good bacteria. only phillips' colon health has this unique combination of probiotics. it helps replenish good bacteria. get four-in-one symptom defense. plaicold sore.

mr. pompeo, your quick thoughts on the firing of mr.rms of the position itself and to the degree you want to comment on how it was done. >> so, you know, i was a supporter of tillerson we talked often. i thought he gave sound advice to the president but there's always been a little bit of something there that seemed to be a little bit of a reprieve. beginning in december they seemed to be working better together, but they've never perfectly geehawed i've talked to both of them about it as we've moved along. while it was sort of surprising the way that it happened, i wasn't surprised that it happened and, you know, look, he's a patriot. i think that he's done the best he could for our nation. i think he's proud he was able to serve our country for 14 months, but, you know, we're getting ready to move on to another secretary of state >> and how do you think that would change under pompeo? >> well, i don't know pompeo that well. people that know him say he's very smart, but i think just philosophically i think he's more aligned with the pr