they met at high noon which is the same time i met with mr. trump a week ago tomorrow. mr. that their conversation ran the gamut. they talked about politics. they talked about cain's story which mr. trump said he was very impressed by, very impressed by his roots, his family, his story. and all the things that herman cain has been able to achieve in his life up to the point of running for president. >> jonathan, where does the herman cain candidacy go from here? what other -- what kind of a future does it have? >> right now the future looks bright. think about it, would you rather be rick perry right now or herman cain? i bet you know you'd want to be herman cain. >> hadn't thought of it that way before. >> right. it's all good news, you know, puppy dogs and dandilions for herman cain. we're talking about him meeting with donald trump, not issues rick perry has had to deal with since he got into the race, from immigration, to hpv, to the latest thing about his ranch. i think because herman cain has been so low in the polls up until he won that florida straw poll a week ago,

i haven't asked him about that question, but you and i both know that mr. trump would tell me immediately if i were to ask him what those detectives said. you know one over thing, lawrence, i wanted to add on to something that steve said with regard to karl rove. i don't think he's trying to circle the wagons around mitt romney to ensure he gets the nomination. i think he's trying to circle the wagons around the republican party as a legitimate party in the united states. if the birthers and the fringe take over the party, like literally take over the party, we're going to see the gop crumble. and when you've got a state like south carolina where in a recent poll last month, one in three republican primary voters don't believe that the president is indeed a citizen of the united states, there's serious trouble here and karl rove is ringing the alarm bells. >> steve, karl rove helped win the presidency back in 2000 by narrowing the differences between the democratic nominee and the republican nominee. the democratic nominee had a medicare benefit drug idea and bus

the governor said he justified had dinner with mr. trump and mr. trump questioned the awe then tty of the long form relead in april. then governor perry had a chance to put this to rest once and for all. instead, listen here as the governor tries to have it both ways. >> it's a good issue to keep alive, just you know, donald's got to have some fun, and the issue is -- >> sounds like you do have some doubt about it. >> look, i haven't -- i haven't seen -- i haven't seen his grades. my grades ended up on the front page of the newspaper. let's, if we're going to show stuff, let's show stuff. but look, that's a distraction. i get it. i'm really not worried about the president's birth certificate. it's fun to poke it at him and say let's see your grades and birth certificate. we have people sitting around, watching this interview at home that don't have a job and this president has killed 2.5 million jobs, that's serious. that's what we better get right. >> governor perry could have, should have, just said the birth certificate shows the president was bo

from the price to the room to the trip you'll never roam alone. >>> mr. trumptype of person that if he wants to endorse you, you don't have to ask him. if he happens to get to that point, and i happen to believe, i would do the same, he's waiting for the field to narrow down a little bit more before he decides whether or not he wants to put his endorsement on any particular candidate. we didn't get in to that. >> donald, let's talk about politics and in particular the gop. you've become whether you wanted to or not the kind of godfather of the gop. they're all running up here to see you, to get your blessing, to get your advice, to get your opinions. why is that? why have you become thissal is man for them and what are you making of the republican race at the moment? >> well, i think first of all they have some very good people running and i've become friendly with some of them. but i don't think they want so much me. i think they want my ideas, what i represent. because i represent a large group of people, many millions of people, that feel that this country i

i sell apartments to people and tell me i can't get financing, mr. trump. you have to get the financing or pay me cash. they can't pay cash, most people. there are a lot of different problems with the banks but one of the things is regulations. the regulators are making it so tough on people. i called a banks and they said the problem we have is the regulators are literally watching every line of every statement and if we loan this guy money to build a building or if we loan this one, you know, unless he putts up like 60% or 70% equity, that's not even a loan, he said we can't give him the one and tell me the regulators are literally running the banks. the banks are afraid and rainy lel know even afraid. in some cases they can't make the deal so i don't know what the reason is. i think that's a big part of the reason but i can tell you this. the banks have money. they're not loaning it and especially to people that want to buy houses. >> is there more that barack obama can do as president to unlock this, to move the paralysis? >> you have to get the banks d

certain restrictions apply. >>> mr. trumps the type of person that if he wants to endorse you he doesn't have to ask you. he's waiting for the field to narrow down a little bit more before he decides whether or not he wants to put his endorsement on any particular candidate. we didn't get in to that. >> donald, let's talk about politics and in particular the gop. you've become whether you wanted to or to the godfather of the gop. they're rinning up here for your advice, blessing, opinions. why is that? why are you a talisman for them and what are you making of the republican race at the moment? >> well, i think first of all they have some very good people running and i've become friendly with some of them but i don't think they want so much me but my ideas, what i represent because i represent a large group of people, many millions of people, that feel that this country is certainly not what it used to be which is an understatement. but because they look at what's going on with china, with opec, with india, with mexico, with

>> i had a wonderful meeting with mr. trump upstairs, we had a great time, he served a wonderful breakfast, we had just a great meeting and we'll continue to work together and talk to him. a lot of people have great respect for him, as i do. we have a wonderful relationship -- slelings hundred and we just had a great time this morning. martha: michele bachmann, getting donald trump to take part in her national tele town hall tonight, which is kind after phone in, town hall set up. it's apparently the first time he's agreed to do something like this for a 2012 candidate after talking to so many of them and having lunch and dinner with most of them and it certainly comes at a time when michele bachmann means a bit of a shot in the arm. her numbers have tumbled, she is now in sixth place. just a few months ago that same poll had her in second place, only behind mitt romney in that poll. so we're joined by alice stewart, meshel -- michele bachmann's communications director. >> great to be with you, thank you. martha: donald trump i

. >> for your calls to speak directly with mr. trump this evening, please press star 3. we will get to your question as quickly as possible. >> michele bachmann is one of seven republican candidates gathering in las vegas for the eighth republican debate of the season. it turns out people are paying attention. more than a quarter of voters have watched one or more of the debates. for a third of them, what they saw led them to change their mind about who to support. what should the candidates do tonight? mark mckennedy debated with george bush, governor sarah palin. he knows something about this. he joins me from cambridge. good to see you. >> hey, chris, how are you? >> let's start with herman cain. his poll numbers were rising, rising and then he got attacked for 9-9-9. we found out it could help him and then hurt other people. he has had trouble answering questions about foreign policy. what does he do tonight and does he become a punching bag? >> likely, he will be. every balloon that goes up gets shot full of holes. they like him because he is candid, affirmative and

mr. trump in our 8:00 hour. >>> actress jennifer aniston teaming up with leading ladies in our area in the fight against breast cancer. she visited along with the wife of the vice president and the health and human services secretary. they took i atour of the facility due to open -- they took a tour of the facility due to open next week. >> now, it is not a death sentence. research, treatment has advanced but one of most important things here in breast cancer awareness month, which we are he in in the month of october, is that getting a mammogram or not get a mammogram is often a life or death decision. >> aniston is also hosting a screening of a lifetime movie called five. >>> improving our future by locking into the past. >> holly is live at the national library of medicine with more on the new exhibit showing all the things we can learn from native american medicine. we're back right after this. [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu users chose prego. prego?! but i've been buyin

now, mr. trump says he's not endorsing the congresswoman, but i headed on over to trump towers earlier today to get his thoughts on the strengths and the weaknesses of all of the goag.o.p. candidates and got hio answer whether or not he is still thinking about a last minute presidential bid. here's part one of my interview. >> all right. so the field for the g.o.p. nomination is set. the only person that is not said -- that is not said no that was speculated to think about getting in, last time i talked to you, you were still could not contemplating getting in. where are you now? >> i've gotten to know, as you know, some of the candidates, and i thought it was very important. i love what i'm doing. i love building buildings and whether it's doing apprentice or all of the different things i have, miss universe, i have such a big company and such a good company and i love it. i love the country even more, and if i see that the wrong candidate is picked and that the economy continues to be bad which i

because we know how well that worked out for mr. trump.lsh, salon.com, and other news coming up. >>> and then there are some republicans who just won't give it up. governor rick perry must be getting desperate. he's joined the obama birther club. courtesy of donald trump. "parade" magazine asked perry, the governor of texas, if he believed president obama was born in the united states. perry said, i have no reason to think otherwise. so the interviewer pressed on. question, "you don't believe what's been released?" perry says "i don't know. i had dinner with donald trump the other night. he doesn't think it's real." question again, "and you said?" perry says "i don't have any idea, it doesn't matter. he's the president of the united states. he's elected. it's a distractive issue." and now donald trump offered this statement. despite release what is alleged do be his birth certificate, serious questions remain, is it authentic? i don't know. and perry has another problem. in november, the texas division of motor vehicles will vote on whethe

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. >> to quote mr. trump, governor perry, is to stir the birther debate anew.>> you associate yourself with a nutty team like that and you damage yourself. i know he is trying to cultivate as all of them, are donald trump to get his endorsement but this is not the way to go about doing it. it starts to marginalize in the minds of the people you need to get the election. and there is a simple answer. yes, he was born in the united states. yes, he is eligible to serve and don't associate yourself with this nutty fringe group. >> it starts to marginalize you. good advice. especially when you're a thuk has talked of seceding from the you've and has suggested sending troops into mexico -- >> to kill these drug cartels and to keep them off our border and to destroy their network. i don't know all of the different scenarios that would be out there. but i think it is very important for to us work with them to keep that country from failing. >> and also, talked of giving the chairman of the federal reserve a not so friendly texas welcome. >> i don't know what you would

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right, mr. trump?s a great example of it. look how well he's done. i don't know exactly the beginning, but i know he wasn't born in buckingham, palace. >> i'm almost done with that wall at your house, by the way. i got to start a little late today 'cause i'm here. by the end of the day, you'll be happy with it. >> gretchen: some people in our country want to get rid of what many deem to be the american dream, capitalism. there has been all these protests going on called occupy wall street. they've spread to l.a., chicago, boston, washington, d.c., ohio. now labor unions, and some celebrities backing these protesters. donald, what do you make of it? >> the interesting thing is that obama was really backed largely by wall street, at least the first run. many of them friends of mine, i don't know if they'll continue to back, a lot of them aren't, but wall street backed obama heavily. much more heavily than anybody else. so now they're fighting wall street, which is an interesting little dichotomy. >> stev

>> you know my ex-boss, mr. trump, does not particularly like the handshake.t when people come over to me while you're eating and they want to shake your hand. >> that's the way to get a cold or influenza, the best way is to shake someone's hands. this is where all of our germs are. >> you'd be in favor of this social experiment of touching elbows? >> you walk into the corner office for your job, you better extend your hand. >> let's do a big one, get it going, we're the trend-setters, "today's professionals" on the count of three, one, two, three, how are you doing? >> you're going to live to regret that piece of video, i can promise you that. star, donny, nancy, thank you very much. oh, yeah, right. good, good. >> now you look like a wuss. >>> more in the next hour. >>> model carre otis speaks out about her tumultuous marriage to mickey rourke and getting her life back on track, right after this. feeling this radiating ache everywhere. the pain was so frustrating. i found out that connected to our muscles are nerves that send messages through the body. my do

. >> i had a wonderful meeting with mr. trump upstairs. we had a great time.rful breakfast. we had just a great meeting. we'll continue to work together and talk to him. a lot of people have great respect for him as i do. we have a wonderful relationship. we had a great time this morning. martha: sounds like everybody had a great time and they had a great breakfast. where does that leave us? michele bachmann says she is rebooting her campaign it needs it from the looks of her tumble in the polls over recent month or so. that sends her back to talk to "the donald". he is a pretty smart guy. once in the running himself. bill: i will bet he picked up the tab. martha: no doubt breakfast was good. nice spread there at "the donald's". bill: we have another obstacle thrown down in the state squabble over presidential primaries. this is important, new hampshire secretary of state warning it may move up its primary to december, early december, after several other states pushed their contests up. now here is what the calendar looks like now for january. florida moved it

mr. donald j. trump, cain addressed reporters questions saying he wants to move on from that issue. >> his question was was i satisfied with governor perry's explanation about the name on the ranch where he went hunting, i said yes, i am, next question. >> some conservatives said you bought into the liberal media trying to smear perry unfairly as a racist. do you think you played the race card? do you regret at all what you said on fox news sunday or abc? >> all i said is the mere fact that rock was there is insensitive. i'm not attacking governor perry. people in the media want to attack him. i'm done with thattish used. >> mitt romney says the name of the perry family retreat is, quote, of fen zichlt he would not comment on the texas governor's involvement. white house press secretary yesterday gave the texas governor the benefit of the doubt. >> the name is clearly offensive. from what i've read, i and i have no inside knowledge what what i've read. the governor shares that opinion. >> democrats in pe

mr. trump thinks a lot. >> meantime, a check of the morning's other top stories from savannah in for natalie. hello, savannah. >> good morning to you. in the news today another person has died in connection with that deadly listeria epidemic linked to cantaloupes from jensen farms. 25 people have died and some 123 others have been sickened. this is the debadliest outbreak in 25 years. >>> social security recipients are getting their first cost of living increases since 2009. for the average recipient the expected 3.5% hike will mean an extra $38 for them per month and will take effect in january. >>> good news in the fight against heart disease. hospital stays for heart failure fell by 30% over the past decade saving medicare about $4.1 billion. medical experts credit better management of risk factors. >>> now to wall street. cnbc's melissa francis is at the new york stock exchange. good morning. >> good morning to you. a stunning miss for apple on the earnings front. keep in mind revenue was s

i would like to ask mr. trump that if he agrees with that. guest: let me give you an example.t you have right now is a union comes in and there is a vote and everyone is in the shop, but not so in a right to work sates. -- states. fors say we had a vote governor and i did not like to vote and i did not have to listen to that governor. i did not have to comply with the governor or go along with anything that governor does. that is essentially what a right to work state does. after there's a vote in the majority of people vote for a union, the majority gets to say they do care. -- they do not care. they do not want any of the responsibility. that weakens the voice against the employer and it weakens what i would call democracy. there are people who did not agree with barack obama or any governor in any state said they would not comply, then you have a weakened state, a week and the system. host: democrat from west newton, pa.. caller: richard, good morning. i am a proud retard member of the uaw. when i was still working, i was a financial officer. one thing i would like to clear

i would like to ask mr. trump that if he agrees with that. guest: let me give you an example. what you have right now is a union comes in and there is a vote and everyone is in the shop, but not so in a right to work sates. -- states. fors say we had a vote governor and i did not like to vote and i did not have to listen to that governor. i did not have to comply with the governor or go along with anything that governor does. that is essentially what a right work state does. after there's a vote in the majority of people vote for a union, the majority gets to say they do care. -- they do not care. they do not want any of the responsibility. that weakens the voice against the employer and it weakens what i would call democracy. the are people who did not agree with barack obama or any governor in any state said they governor in any state said they would

do you remember, mr. trump, when you were here? au >>> i could forget. loved being on the show. loved meeting you and he said that was -- he also liked the couch. he says it was soft. and he thanks you, too, for giving him a bike. after his was stolen. >> he was so cute and such a great guy. i did get the note and i appreciated it. when i watched on your show, i loved where he had his bike stolen and the first thing he did was pray. i don't know. that sounds pretty good to me. anyway, he got a bike. and we got him a nice one. >> maybe we have a future apprentice there. >> he's really a great boy. >> there he is. with his helmet on and everything. all right. donald, have a fantastic week. thanks for giving us your thoughts this morning. >> thank you very much. and say hello to the madoff family. >> we're not going to have -- >> they're not going to be here today. thanks, donald. >> so long. >> we've been reporting on those passengers, did you hear this story, they were trapped on the tarmac for seven hours inside an airplane. one of them will be here live

. >> steve: by the way, we should point out, mr. trump touch" in stores today. i'm sure that saturday night live is lampooned you many times. >> well, i actually hosted "saturday night live" and they did, in fact, it's been a constant thing. i think it's really badge of honor. it's good. it's really good. it's good for you. it's good for everybody. you don't like it, nothing much you can do about it anyway. >> steve: i wish i had that tie in real life. >> clayton: herman cain says we all need to have is a better sense of humor in this country. speaking about herman cain and what's going on on wall street. first of all, your reaction to what you've been seeing down there with all the protests arguing against sort of corporate greed, at least that's part of the message and there is a lot of mixed messages coming out. other groups are sort of owe copting this protest, making it their own. what's your sense of this thing? >> nobody really knows down there what they're protesting. i keep hearing different things and really very far flung thing

mr. cain scheduled to meet with business mogul donned trump later today. >>> and nasa astronaut and husband of gabbey giffords retired. he was navy captain and they are writing a memoir expected to be publish next month. >>> and gm's adding air bags to some of the crossover suvs. officials say the air bags that will pop up between front seats could help prevent 29% of fatalities in side impact crashes. the front and center air bag will be first installed in the gmc acadia and enclave and traverse next year. >>> and officials in albany, georgia can cash in on saggy pants. town has a ban on the pants that will be issue fines to anyone caught wearing the pants more than 3 inches bow low the top of the hip -- below the top of the hip for men and women. >>> sports news this morning, tiger woods no longer a owe physicianly considered one of the 50 best players in the world. that ends 15 year streak. official world golf rankings says he entered at the number 50 spot but another golfer knocked him off the list last year's british open champion. the list comes out today. he will try to swing back in

mr. money, donald trump is going to be joining us. he's out with a new book.erang." >> brian: we're talking about michael lewis whose second to last book was a movie. we'll see if this is, too. this looks at a third world and how it's coming back to haunt us. >> steve: you got to be upstairs, up in the teams of our sky scraper, who will be on your show? >> herman cain at 9:06. but gretchen carlson at 9:34. >> steve: both in the same show? >> brian: amazing! >> gretchen: thank you very much for the props, brian. if you want to catch our after the show show, log on to www.foxandfriends.com. that's where you find it. right now in four seconds. have a fantastic day. bill: all right, thank you guys. fox news alert, good morning, everybody, we're stirring it up again,