mr. winslow, we've received confirmation from the d.r. requesters? mr. winslow, are you with us? okay. >> yeah, we are still awaiting confirmation from two of the d.r. requesters on 3441 washington. as soon as we have that, i will forward that to you. >> clerk: okay. we should take public comment on that. members of the public, this is your time to speak to item 1, which is being proposed to july 8, 2021. you'll have two minutes. >> good morning, commissioners. this is ryan patterson, attorney for the d.r. requester at 628 shotwell street. we can live with the three-week continuance, and we can even live with the continuance to july 8. there's no need for a longer delay, and i'm happy to answer any questions. thank you. >> good afternoon. my name is tony ranner, and i am a neighbor two doors down from it. i just wanted to express my support for the project. i have lived in the neighborhood 15 years -- >> clerk: i'm sorry, sir. right now, we're only taking public comment on the matter of the continuance. we'll take up the public comment if it's heard on that date >> okay. i'd like

mr. winslow for including us in this process, and i would like to thank mr. amir to work with me on the design. the ownership has always wanted to work with the neighbor on the designing of projects that not only fit in the neighborhood content but also to attract more businesses. i don't have much to add. i understand that there are going to be public comments that are going to come in that have some concern about parking and construction noise and issues. i responded in an e-mail to one of the public -- one of the neighbors, his name is bill, and i will see if there are any other questions that i would like to answer, and i'm available for any questions. thank you. >> clerk: thank you. for members of the public, this is your opportunity to address the commission on this matter by pressing star then three to be added to the queue. when you hear that your line has been unmuted, this is your indication to begin speaking, and through the chair, you have one minute. >> hi. my name is [inaudible] and i own and run baddy philosophy, a clothing store that is 15 fee

mr. winslow, we've received confirmation from the d.r. requesters? mr. winslow, are you with us?okay. >> yeah, we are still awaiting confirmation from two of the d.r. requesters on 3441 washington. as soon as we have that, i will forward that t

mr. winslow. mr. inslow, typically, when it comes to front setbacks, i'd be looking for 15 feet even if we have a parapet. >> so the guidance given from the residential design guideline, which is specific to building scale in the street front talks about prevailing scale of the height of buildings. that's where a third or fourth-story addition appearing to deviate from an appearing line has several guidelines under that recommendation, one of which is setting it back, and it is recommended at 15 feet, but by no means is that considered a rule contingent on circumstances such as the visibility of that addition, the nature of the width of the street, other buildings that are blocking, you know, the view or the ability to see that addition, and also parapets that can block the building or that addition. in this case, it's virtually impossible to see this addition from a public right of away or from jasper, and that's where we determined that 12 feet was adequate, both from the residential design but from

mr. winslow who is good at resolving the scenarios, if the commission added a condition saying it would be refined based on adjacent neighbors, we easily could accommodate that, understanding the intent is to make sure that the two neighbors talk with each other, there's a lot of solutions that the project could undertake to basically accommodate for that. as long as we're clearly understanding what the goal is of the commission, i feel confident that staff could undertake that. >> i agree with you, but i believe this commission could also witness what that is and actually delay the decision because what you're saying about adding a small space by adding a patio level access to the lower unit may improve the lower unit. i don't want to just hear it in words. i want to see how it is done. the finish grade is way up. this is the light well. so the open space is still in a light well. i would like to see physically for the commission to have the benefit to approve something we're all comfortable with. i hope i have support. which means continuing. i make a motion we continue the project based

mr. winslow handled it. they requested a copy of the variance. that is our procedure when variances you need to request a copy of the decision letter. i take it that the jurisdiction requests were made and staff did not send it to them. the variance decision letter we have evidence it was mailed to the project team but not to anyone else. we don't have any -- staff is unable to find sign in sheets from the variance hearings. i don't doubt that the requester is telling the truth here. it does appear there is the possibility that there was an oversight unfortunately and the city did make a mistake here. the associated building permit was issued just last month and appeal to the board of appeals on june 9th. i am available for questions the board may have. >> they said they requested notification. is that a requirement or is that something they requested and you guys provide? >> the decision letter doesn't automatically get sent out to the public. typically someone signs the sign in sheet to request a copy of the decision letter and i believe that t

mr. winslow who is good at resolving the scenarios, if the commission added a condition saying it would berefined based on adjacent neighbors, we easily could accommodate that, understanding the intent is to make sure that the two neighbors talk with each other, there's a lot of solutions that the project could undertake to basically accommodate for that. as long as we're clearly understanding what the goal is of the commission, i feel confident that staff could undertake that. >> i agree with you, but i believe this commission could also witness what that is and actually delay the decision because what you're saying about adding a small space by adding a patio level access to the lower unit may improve the lower unit. i don't want to just hear it in words. i want to see how it is done. the finish grade is way up. this is the light well. so the open space is still in a light well. i would like to see physically for the commission to have the benefit to approve something we're all comfortable with. i hope i have support. which means continuing. i make a motion we continue the project based

mr. winslow who is good at resolving the scenarios, if the commission added a condition saying it would berefined based on adjacent neighbors, we easily could accommodate that, understanding the intent is to make sure that the two neighbors talk with each other, there's a lot of solutions that the project could undertake to basically accommodate for that. as long as we're clearly understanding what the goal is of the commission, i feel confident that staff could undertake that. >> i agree with you, but i believe this commission could also witness what that is and actually delay the decision because what you're saying about adding a small space by adding a patio level access to the lower unit may improve the lower unit. i don't want to just hear it in words. i want to see how it is done. the finish grade is way up. this is the light well. so the open space is still in a light well. i would like to see physically for the commission to have the benefit to approve something we're all comfortable with. i hope i have support. which means continuing. i make a motion we continue the project based