here's the last thing mueller said.ueller: and i will close by reiterating the central allegati, of our indictmen that there were multiple, systematic efforts to terfere in our election. and that allegation deserves the attentionof very american. brangham: and so that's where we will start. volume one of his report, it's just over half of the total report, and it deals excsively with what the russians did. desjardins: eller lays this out, like the entire report, essentially as a large outline, saying russia attacked in two ways. he writes, first, that it carried out a social media prmpaign that favored esidential candidatena j. trump. and, second, a russian intelligence service conducted computer int esion operations againities, employees and volunteers working on the clinton campaign. translation, russia used the internet to fool american voters and hacatrs to attack demo computer networks. brangham: according to mueller's rept, the russian campaign began in mid-2014. that's when the employees of what's known as the in

mueller. tomorrow, it will be a regular hearing, mueller will make opening statements, and the doj will not see the opening statement in advance. we don't know when he will submit the statement, but those are things we will watch for. host: explain the order of questions here and who sits on the top wrong versus the bottom rung. guest: the top wrong is the most senior members of the committee, folks who have served in committee for the longest. the bottom is mostly the freshman members and those who were just place on the committee of this congress. they were concerned they might not be able to ask questions, which is why we are having the hearing tomorrow instead of last wednesday. essentially, it will be a regular hearing in a sense that they hope all members will be able to ask questions. as a general rule that each member gets to ask questions for five minutes. it depends of republicans or even democrats might try to filibuster that and sort of push the time back and prevent more junior me

then there's the mueller side. even the famous little tight-lipped operator has been compelled to reveal some things about his approach. he's being represented and prepped by an old partner in his law firm because congress has to list a lawyer written down in the formal subpoena for mueller. we know as of today mueller wants one of had his deputies to sit alongside him tomorrow. it looks like that's going to happen. given the exacting lawyer and boss he is, can you imagine what it's like for those two to prep and advise him on the most watched hearing of his life? can't be easy. then there's the doj side. trump's attorney general bill barr phenomenon mali pressing mule other to stay in the boundaries of his report and the democratic chair already pushing back on that. >> it's arrogant of the department to try to the instruct him what to say as part of the ongoing cover-up by the administration to keep information away from the american people. he does not have to comply with that letter. he doesn't work for them. t

how did democrats do an extracting the mueller report out of robert mueller today?> not that good a job. i think, chuck, look, working for bob mueller was one of the great professional privileges of my life. i learned to take the man at his word, completely and directly. if he says he's going to do something, he will do it. if he says he's not going to do something, he won't do it. and what he said on may 29th, i think that was the day of his press conference that his report would be his testimony. >> he was almost as a warning, hey, guys, if you call me up there, i'm not going outside the bounds of this report. >> so why in the world would anyone be surprised unless they didn't take him at his word? and by the way, if they were waiting for him to be animated or lively, thads not the bob mueller i knew. i don't mean that disrespectfully. he's serious, sober, dignified. >> they could have used that to their advantage. >> of course. he's a man of tremendous integrity. and also, you see how a man of integrity acts because he could have skewered the president or the att

so he has mueller. mueller has made his report. and he has turned it over to congress and it's up to congress to act. it, nadler, ifee you issue a subpoena and they don't come in, then you can find. if you find them and they don't pay the fine, you could have them, what do you call it, put theail for not honoring fine on the subpoena. nadler hasn't than anything. he called hope picks in. didn't swear her in to testify. what has nadler done? the last point i want to make is when this is over with wednesday, they are going to want nancy pelosi to go along with the impeachment. how can you go along with any kind of impeachment on donald trump when you have no witnesses, nadler hasn't called anybody in to testify anything. and that's where it's going to wind up at. thank you for listening to my call. host: that's tim in alabama. those are interesting points. impeachment itself while it was in the house would itself be an investigation. there would be witnesses. there would be evidence. it's not like a binary decision. it would just be

mueller? >> the special counsel's office has made it clear for some time that they would like to have him present, they would like to allow him to answer questions. we want this hearing to be about director mueller. we are in discussions with them about the role of his counsel and those discussions are ongoing. i expect that he will be there, but we would like to make sure that the degree that he participates that it may be on technical issues or other matters. we don't want him as a substitute for mueller's voice. >> was this a last-minute request? >> no, they have made this request for some time. we're willing to try to accommodate, but like many things about the hearing, it has been a constant process of negotiation and refinement. >> okay. literally while we were just playing that sound bite from adam schiff, i was just handed some breaking news on this very subject. you just heard there how intelligence committee chairman adam schiff explained it as of this afternoon, in terms of these on

that is mueller's job. and in last minute curve ball request from mueller is still under discussion at the intelligence committee which will also question mueller publicly for several hours tomorrow. in drama comes as we learn president trump is irritated mueller gets the bull horn tomorrow. the president today slamming the former special counsel publicly returning to his favorite line of attack. >> this whole witch hunt that's going on shall i talk about it for a second? the russian witch hunt. okay. first of all it's very bad for our country. goes on for years and years. no collusion, no obstruction. they interviewed 500 people. listen to this. 2500 subpoenas. they did everything. their collusion -- no no inclusion they have no collusion. >> okay. let's just be clear on one really important thing. this was not a witch hundred. mueller's investigation has so far resulted in 199 criminal counts. 37 people and entities charged and almost all of them are russian. 5 people have been sentenced to prison. whatev

they slapped mueller's name on it. he was not running this investigation, he was asleep at the wheel, they trotted him out, he's got a great brand and served honorably for so many years. no clue what was going on, no clue about the hiring process, he didn't know the details, he was stammering and stumbling. and juan likes to say the republicans were fearful of this, if the republicans could go back and say, hey, maybe, i think we'd change our mind. we want this hearing and were happy he went out and testified. >> juan: you were saying, don't bring mueller here. >> jessica: i says it was going to back fire. that is what happened. >> juan: no, no, no, important distinction, jesse, he didn't wilt. i think he thought in his mind, i'm going to present myself as the ex-marine, the straight-shooter, man of great aptitude and came off as uncertain of the facts. >> greg: juan, going back to trump. >> your answers are generally untruthful, what do you say to that? >> pres. trump: he didn't say that at all. you are untruthful. wh

here is robert mueller from 2013. he was speaking at the commencement address at the college of william and mary, and this is what he had to say to the graduating years that day. >> i begin with integrity because it is so essential to who and what you ultimately will become. you have a career path in mind, many of you have no idea. be surprised iy where life takes you, i certainly was. in the end, it is not only what we do, but how we do it. your chosenf careers, you are only as good as your word. you can be smart, aggressive, articulate, and persuasive. but if you are not honest, your reputation will suffer, and once tarnished, a good reputation can never be regained. as the saying goes, if you have integrity, nothing else matters. and if you don't have integrity, nothing else matters. host: what do you take from that commencement address? guest: you can tell that he means it. i think integrity is an increasingly rare quality in american society. i think this is why ron rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, chose

mueller to testify. however, there are 41 members who technically are entitled to five minutes each. if you do the math, you can see that there will be 25 minutes and those 25 minutes technically comes from the democrats time. it will be interesting to see if republicans use all of their five minutes and maybe go over and make the democrats anxious that some of them are not getting their time. host: what else will you be looking for? guest: >> quick remind you can watch special counsel robert mueller's testimony tomorrow on c-span and c-span3, gets under way at 8:30 eastern. the u.s. house is expected to gavel in for legislative work this afternoon. members working on a number of bills, including several dealing with veterans health and housing programs. also the resolution stating that congress opposes efforts to boycott israel because of israel's treatment of palestinians. watch the house live right here on c-span starting at 2:00 p.m. eastern. "washington journal" continues. host: and now, a roundtabl

mueller. they need something from him to get that number from 90, which i think is roughly the current count to double that to get some real accelerant in there. i'll be looking to see if he says something that ostentatiously gives congress the impetus to impeach or that he found things troubling in that report, giving them the impetus to move forward on impeachment. >> jonathan swan, thank you very much. we're going to be reading axios in a bit. sign up for the news letter at sign up @axios.com. i'm yasmin vossoughian, "morning joe" starts right now. m yasmin g joe" starts right now. >>> two months ago when congress was negotiating over whether mueller will testify on capitol hill, the ap's jonathan lemire reported that the president stewed for days about the prospect of the media coverage that would be given to mueller and trump has long known the power of televised images and feared that americans would be captivated by seeing and hearing mueller. today is that day. good morning, and welcom

. >> he's important to the family but the -- this is about mueller and mueller will say what muellerand some letter that some burro cat wrote him is not going to determine what he says. mueller is going to determine it. >> it does give the president another example that this is a, you know, crooked witch hunt. >> the problem is it gives them a talking point, right? they want to say is that they aren't playing by the rules and mueller isn't playing fairly and so on. they should have spent months negotiating and did spend a bunch of tile negotiame negotia. it looks odd to put someone next to him even if, as gloria said, it's not unreasonable because it's showing up at the last minute, it sort of feels odd and you gave the president a talking point and i don't think that's what democrats or robert mueller need right now. >> david? >> i wonder how much of it is mueller himself recognizing that he is walking a very narrow ledge here. he wants to stick to the text of his report and doesn't want to go beyond it. he understands the mission of the republican there is is to try to paint this a

that, according to mueller's report, is spun off from mueller's investigation. and today, with these references that mueller made, surprising everyone as to ongoing investigations and things that the fbi is looking at, that was a very good reminder that we still don't know what any of this stuff is behind these redactions. the reference today by mueller to an ongoing fbi investigation of flynn and his compromise by a foreign country and donald trump jr.'s and wikileaks and those -- those were all very much put on the table today by mueller, presumably there are lots of billable hours been earned by the attorneys for those gentlemen. we shall see. but that was -- that was mueller propping open the door into a wing of this house we didn't even know existed. but i mean, all in all, as you can tell, there was a bunch that happened today that i thought was surprising. but even some of the stuff you might have predicted would have come out because of the way that we knew democrats wanted to walk mueller through his own findings and all that stuff, all in all, just loo

mueller, if donald j.sident of the united states, would you have enough evidence to charge him with obstruction? >> and the report is my testimony. >> rob mueller is one of those guys who says, the thing speaks for itself. that's an honorable principle. it's just not a principle that really exists anymore in the 21st century. nothing speaks for itself anymore. he needs to speak for it. >> the mueller report in many ways is going to form the first rough draft of the history of the trump era. and you know who knows that? donald trump. it's narrative, it's dramatic, it's important, and it's in black and white. >>> are you all ready to make a ruckus? >> this is a seismic political upset. >> she came out of nowhere. >> nobody wanted to talk to us. nobody in politics, nobody in the press. >> and took the capitol by storm. >> he's not in the russell building, he's not on the floor of the senate, and 800,000 people don't have their paychecks. so where's mitch? >> they're flummoxed, they're confused, they're bewild

let mueller talk. let him have the four and a half or four minutes and 45 seconds. >> what do you make of mueller's decision to have his deputy join him tomorrow as he's testifying? >> it'll be interesting. i have absolutely no idea why he wanted to do that. we'll find out right away. we'll have to wait about 20 hours. >> the fbi director, christopher wray, testified on capitol hill today. he said russia is still working to interfere in the upcoming 2020 election. how important is it to hear what mueller has to say about russia, what russia was doing in the 2016 election? >> well, this is the first part of his report in detail about russia's involvement in the election. he came to -- did he come to a conclusion on collusion? well, he apparently decided that there was not, but it's very important the american public understands the way in which russia involved itself, the way in which they tried to deflect the american attention and, frankly, fed us a lot of lies. >> the president today said some things

of robert mueller. he would never get up there and put on a big performance. that is just not who he is. the tank -- the task for the republicans was to attempt to discredit him. they threw him off his game a little bit but they fundamentally didn't achieve that goal. the task on the democrats was to refocus on the substance of the report to make the case to the american people and get the american people's attention about what is in the document and i think that if you look at their performance, they did a pretty good job of that. they used slides and pulled out the key moments. some of those exchanges were really incredibly compelling and so, look, i know it wasn't sort of the game-changer mueller and him saying i would have indicted him or some piece of information that might have dramatically shifted the conversation, that said i think today was incredibly consequential and i be -- i don't buy that the president thinks today was a good day for him and this was a devastating portrait for the white ho

mueller. as andrew mentioned, they pushed back to hearing under a new agreement which allow the judiciary committee more time. the intel committee will get two hours. that will still give every member a chance to ask questions. under regularding order. everyone or have five minute rounds. the intel committee is much smaller than judiciary at 22 members. of the intelirman committee, how do you think adam schiff's style is different than the chairman of the judiciary committee? that is one thing different about the intelligence committee is that much of its work is conducted behind closed doors. adam schiff has tried to do more public hearings as chairman. i think we have had a couple, including a few focused on the mueller investigation and russia interference. i expect it to be a little less the judiciaryhan committee hearing, and it's proceeding second. i think we will get a lot of power from the first hearing. i think the second hearing will be different because of folks with russian interfe

she got no answer from mueller. today in person under questioning from congressman krishnamoorthi, he still wouldn't answer it, while he multi simultaneously was opened up to being compromised by the hostile foreign power as were several other people. did mueller look at trump a taxes or didn't he? shouldn't someone? given what mueller just said about the financial basis of trump's compromise by russia. if you didn't think it was urgent before, it's weird that this is the first president not to release the tax returns. it's interesting and a fascinating legal matter. it's never been a more urgent matter than today after mueller directly linked the compromise by russia to the foreign entanglements and the business pursuits he maintained concerning the government of russia that he lied about and russia knew about and could expose at will. now, given that new urgency around the president's taxes, i should tell you that literally eight minutes after the close of the mueller hearings today, eight minutes after the second

mueller? >> they were not as useful as the interview would be. >> in fact, you pointed out, and by my count there were more than 30 times the president said he didn't recall, he didn't remember, no independent recollection, no current recollection. i take it by your answer that it wasn't as helpful, that's why you used words like incomplete, imprecise, inadequate, insufficient. is that a fair summary of what you thought of those written answers? >> that is a fair summary. >> the president didn't ever claim the fifth amendment, did he? >> i'm not going to talk to that. >> from what i can tell, sir, at one point it was vital and then another point it wasn't vital. and my question to you is, why did it stop being vital? i can only think of three explanations. one, somebody told you you couldn't do it. but nobody told you you couldn't subpoena the president? >> no, we understood we could subpoena the president. >> rosenstein didn't tell you, whitaker -- >> we could subpoena the president. >> two o

mueller's interpretation being conveyed. because mueller conveyed his interpretation in the report. it is devastating. but it's not what barr represented it was. so i wonder and i've talked to people who know mr. mueller. whether whether or not he is deeply offended by the conduct of the attorney general. and certainly i think we know that he is deeply offended by the conduct of the president. it's in his report. how can he be drawn out of it? >> just give us some thoughts. in the hour before you were going before the committees, what are you doing? >> couple things are very different. i would testify five days. i didn't know it would be five days. i didn't know when they went up they asked me to read my entire statement. it was 60,000 words. had i known it was going to be 60,000 -- or i'd have to read it, it wouldn't have been 60. it may have been six at the most. i was also in the witness protection program. i was accompanied by marshals who dealt with a crowd. a friend to me said i didn't realize how important your hearing was until i learned that john lennon and yoko had lined u

mueller? >> it was certainly not as useful as the interview would be. >> the president didn't ever claim the fifth amendment, did he? >> i'm not going to talk to that. >> i think he did something very interesting though. he spoke about weighing things. the expedition that he wanted to finish the investigation and what he had suggesting he had enough for obstruction and didn't need more. and he did have that full statement and the answers. so i think that that was critically important and it meets the issue of trump saying i am not a witch basically. and he doesn't really get away with it after this hearing. so he looks kind of foolish. >> you about he says here we were almost towards the end of our investigation. >> yes. >> you have argued on this show. >> he should go further. >> you can't say you're at the end of the investigation if you haven't done everything possible to get the facts about the criminal intent of the individual being krutdized in volume two, the president. >> in his testim

mueller this morning?hyer: my question would be would he go into the with his mind set on finding out anything on president trump when he should have been there trying to find out what instigated the russian information and everything instead of investigating trying to find everything on president trump, he went in there when he should have been doing something to find out what hillary clinton -- why did he go in that direction and not in the direction of hillary clinton? host: scott in florida. democrat. good morning to you. caller: good morning. i was thinking, if we want to keep mueller talking about what's in the report, i would ask him, you said you didn't clear him of any wrongdoings, then are you saying if he wasn't the president, you would have indicted him? ok, what would you have indicted him for? that keeps it within the context of the report and you have mueller explain. host: do you think he would answer those questions? caller: i would think he would at least answer the first one. that is res

documented in the mueller report. then the house intelligence committee will get its turn concentrating on what russia did to attack the 2016 presidential election here in the united states. >> mueller is clearly a reluctant witness. he stressed he's going to limit his testimony to what is in his 448-page report. but even if mueller only recites aloud some of the key points, that effect could be stunning and these could have blockbuster potential. we gathered our analysts to bring you full coverage. >> i want to go to capitol hill right now. manu raju is up there. manu, there have been overnight developments involving a last-minute request by robert mueller. what are you learning now? >> reporter: yeah. sensitive negotiations having going up until the last minute of this high profile high stakes hearing in the aftermath of robert mueller making a request to have his top deputy testify -- to sit along side him and actually be sworn in. republicans objected to that request but it was allowed for him to sit next to rober

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mueller. washington journal is next. host: the flag half-staff today in honor of john paul stevens. democrats and the white house reached a budget deal allowing the government to borrow beyond current limits, green lighting additional spending in the coming years. as we take you through what that means for the fiscal house, we spend the first hour hearing about your personal fiscal house. give us a call and tell us how much debt you carry and how concerned you are about it. phone numbers different this morning. if you carry no debt, (202)-748- 8000. if you carry below $50,000 in debt, (202)-748-8001. andou carry between $50,000 $100,000 in debt, (202)-748-8002 , and if you are over $100,000 in debt, (202)-748-8003. catch up with us on social media, on twitter @cspanwj and on facebook at facebook.com/cspa n. good tuesday morning to you. start calling in. let us know how much debt you have. we will give you a sense of the overall personal debt facing american families. these numbers according to

we read from the mueller report.opoulos contacted trump campaign manager corey lewandowski via linkedin, as one does, and emailed campaign official michael glassner about his interest in joining the trump campaign. on march 2 of 2016, papadopoulos sent glassner another message reiterating his interest. glassner passed on word of papadopoulos's interest to another campaign official who notified papadopoulos by email that she had been told by glassner to introduce papadopoulos to sam clovis of iowa, the trump campaign's national co-chair and chief policy adviser. now here is the magic of a campaign. listen to what the president says to "the washington post" editorial board 19 days after that. >> george papadopoulos, he's an oil and energy consultant, excellent guy. >> excellent guy, michael. is this kind of freelancing, the name salad we just read aloud, common? >> no. i don't think it's common. i don't think it's common as other campaigns would function. but i think what you're talking about gets at the question in th

mueller -- director mueller. doctor also. i'll designate that, too. i certainly have made up my mind about what we have reviewed today meets the elements of obstruction, including whether there was corrupt intent and what is clear is that anyone else, including some members of congress, would have been charged with crimes for these acts. we would not have allowed this behavior from any of the previous 44 presidents. we should not allow it now, or for the future, to protect our democracy and, yes, we will continue to investigate because, as you clearly state at the end of your report, no one is above the law. i yield back my time. >> the gentle lady yields back. the gentle lady from texas? >> director mueller, you wrote in your report that you, quote, determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, end quote. was that in part because of an opinion by the department of justice office of legal counsel that a sitting president can't be charged with a crime? >> yes. >> director mueller, at your may 29th, 2019 press conference, you explained th

mueller, for being here.or two years leading up to the release of the mueller report and for three months since americans were first told what to expect and what to believe. collusion, we were told was in plain sight even if the special counsel's team didn't find it. when mr. mueller produced his report and attorney general barr read it to the americans we learned the depths of russia's malice towards america. we are here to ask serious questions about mr. mueller's work and we will do that. after an extended unhampered investigation today marks the end of an investigation that closed in april. the burden of proof for accusations that remain unproven is extremely high and especially in light of special counsel's thoroughness. wee told this investigation began as an inquiry into whether russia meddled in our 2016 election. mr. mueller, you concluded they did. and disseminated sense tv information by tricking campaign insiders into revealing protected information. the investigation also reviewed whether donald

of the mueller team." there were no answers to those questions in today's hearings. answers to those questions would lead to other questions that could not be asked today. the real history of the mueller investigation will not be written until we know answers to questions about the deliberations of the mueller team. for example, former watergate prosecutors are willing to tell us things they could not tell us in the heat of their investigation of president nixon. we are probably years away from members of the mueller team appearing on programs like this to reveal many important dynamics of the investigation that are not included in the evidentiary findings presented in the mueller report. jill wine banks shares her wisdom with us often. other experts are familiar to you. first, we will be joined by congressman eric swalwell who was one of the few members who was able to question robert mueller in both of today's house hearings. >> 1,000 former prosecutors who served under republican and democratic administ

hang over mueller. because he really didn't vigorously pursue it. >> john dean will be here tonight. so stay tuned for that. let remember what this whole thing is about. chris talked about this. russia interfered in our election. they interfered to help donald trump. and they'll interfere again. >> in your investigation did you think this was a single attempt by the russians to get involved in our election or find evidence of suggest they'll do it again? >> it wasn't a single attempt. they're doing it as we sit here and they'll do it during the next campaign. >> here's a question. with 2020 looming, what are we going to do to protect our democracy? next i'll talk to a man who knows this investigation inside and out. he can help us with that last question. he knows all about what it's like to be under fire from the president. there he is. andrew mccabe after the break. (male announcer) now's the time... to tune... fix fletching... and practice until your groups are tight and consistent. it's time to get

>> it's actually the first thing referenced in this letter to robert mueller, that mueller requested this guidance about what he can and can't say during his testimony on wednesday. really the letter lays it out in very strict terms saying any testimony must remain within the bounds of the public report that mueller cannot refer to any redacted material from the report, references like grand jury material or other ongoing investigations, and crucially, mueller must not discuss the conduct of any uncharged third parties. anderson, that right there will likely severely hinder democrats' plan to hammer home the question would donald trump be charged with obstruction if he were not the president since really by the terms of this letter, mueller will not be able to talk about any uncharged third parties here. >> and in terms of any kind of an opening statement from mueller, do we know if the department of justice gets a copy of that beforelahand? >> i'm told no one at d.o.j. will see mueller's report before it's delivered. it will be under wraps until the hearing begins on wednesday morni

mueller. as william brangham as william brangham reports, the partisan war over the mueller probe was on full display. >> brangham: it was a historic day on capitol hill, two years in the making. former special counsel robert mueller testified before two house committees about his report on russia interference in theel 201tion, and president trump's repeated attempts to end it.se houudiciary committee chairman jerry nadler of new yorark d off trying to rebut president trump's assertions abo >> so the report did not conclude that he did not commit obstruction of justice is that correct? >> that correct. >> and what about total aloneration- did you actually tot exonerate the president? >> no. >> now in fact, your reports expressly states that it does not exonerate the president. >> it does. >> brangham: democrats zeed in on a key point-- why mueller did not obstructed justice or not. >> director mueller, you found evidence that as you lay out in your report that the president wanted to fire you

they want robert mueller's testimony. they don't want the testimony of some guy nobody has ever heard of. his name is aaron, decorated consider terrorism investigator, chief dipty of fbi and deputy special counsel. he knows a lot about this investigation. robert mueller was 74 years old, something of a figurehead, a manager in this investigation. it makes sense he would want his deputy at the hearing to fill in the blanks in case he doesn't have the details at hand. the way they have worked it out, he's going to sit next to him as his counsel but will not be sworn in as a witness. >> the idea here, i saw all sorts of speculation about this, is your reporting suggesting this is somebody who can provide details on some answers maybe where mueller isn't equipped to? >> 100%. that's the idea. mueller wanted him to be sworn in as a witness so he could actually testify to the details but pete williams is reporting he will not be sworn in, sit behind him as counsel and mueller can confirm with him and he can whisper answers in m

bob mueller is someone who sees the world in very black and white terms. >> reporter: by 2004 muellerg the fbi when his phone rang. it was james comey, then deputy attorney general. it was the first time mueller and comey would find themselves in a very controversial legal drama. >> i was very upset. i was angry. >> reporter: comey was worried the bush administration was determined to keep a warrantless eavesdropping program. ashcroft was in the hospital recovering from surgery leaving comey in charge. >> i was concerned given how ill i knew the attorney general was that there might be an effort to ask him to overrule me when he was in no condition to do that. called director mueller, he said i'll meet you at the hospital right now. >> reporter: they had to race administration officials to ashcroft's bed side. >> director mueller instructed the fbi presents not to allow me to be removed from the room under any circumstances. >> reporter: in the end ashcraft backed comey and mueller. >> he enlisted bob mueller because he knew bob mueller had this incredible nonpartisan reputation in wa

did trump win or did mueller win? and it was all about that, and it was that way for his lawyers, too. i got a text message tonight from rudy giuliani with emojis in it, where he said what you saw from mueller was a grade b horror film that turned into a satirical comedy. they are celebrating the outcome of what happened today and without much concern for the really grave warning that mueller delivered and that chairman schiff underscored about the current ongoing threat of russian election interference. remember, this is the same president who has denied repeatedly election interference, who has said that he takes putin at his word. we remember that moment in helsinki. and he's really not invested much interest, as president, in overseeing steps that this government should be doing or could be doing to pry to prevent it in the future, not only from russia, but china and other countries, as well. >> i can yield you 15 seconds. >> it's much worse than that. he's inviting the help of russia again in the next election. w

mueller? is this a threat or is this fair and square? >> this isn't the first witness they have attempted to intimidate. it's just the one who has the most credibility and had the most powerful position of any witness dealt with so far. let me just say, this president should be thanking mr. mueller for how he handled this investigation because in the final analysis the special counsel bent over backwards to be fair to this president. he followed d.o.j. regulations and didn't indict him. he refused to take a stance in the report about obstruction because he said since he won't go on trial, he has no opportunity to defend himself. he didn't indict his son because he said his son was ignorant of the law. he didn't force the president to come in and answer questions. he didn't force the president to answer all of the written questions. and the worst thing he said about all of that is the president wasn't completely straight forward in his answers. he got a break from this special counsel. >> now w

mueller. director mueller. doctor, also. i will designate that, too. i have certainly made up my mind about what we have reviewed today, that it meets the elements of obstruction. including whether there was corrupt intent. what is clear is that anyone else, including some members of congress, would have been charged with crimes for these acts. we would not have allowed this behavior from any of the previous 44 presidents. we should not allow it now or for the future, to protect our democracy. and, yes, we will continue to investigate. because as you clearly state at the end of your report, no one is above the law. i yield back my time. speak of the gentle lady yields back. the gentle lady from texas. >> director mueller, you wrote in your report that you "determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment." was not in part because of an opinion by the deferment of justice office of legal counsel that a sitting president can't be charged with a crime? >> yes. >> director mueller, at your ma, he explained that "the opening the opinion says that

as much as robert mueller? >> our focus is going to definitely be on mueller, and our goal is to let mueller speak because if he just describes what is in the report, that's very, very damaging to the president. but it is very good that zebley is going to be there as well because if it's just to give advice, he's going to have specific details about all of those interactions you mentioned. also, we're establishing the precedent that we've been fighting for that some of these investigators, we have a right to call them. >> yes. >> to inquire what's going on. mueller is at the top, but a lot of the people doing the details, where they know what the negotiations were, they know what happened, they're relevant to get the story out to the american people, so we think -- we're glad that he's going to be there and we are glad that he's going to be sworn in. >> and the -- every member of the committee has a staff member nearby. when you're not coming up with exactly the right thing in the right moment. so the idea that

mueller, for being here. for two years, leading up to the release of the mueller report and in the three months since, americans were first told what to expect and then what to believe. collusion, we were told, was in plain sight, even if the special counsel's team didn't find it. when mr. mueller produced his report and attorney general barr provided it to every american, we read no american conspired with russia to interfere in our elections but learned the depths of russia to interfere. after an extended, unhampered investigation, today marks the end to mr. mueller's investigation involvement in an investigation that closed in april. burden of proof for accusations that remain unproven is extremely high, especially in light of special counsel's thoroughness. we were told this investigation began as an inquiry into whether russia meddled in our 2016 election. mr. mueller, you concluded they did. russians accessed democrat servers and disseminated inside information by tricking insiders into providing inform

mueller says you were being untruthful? things that could be read that way by written answers? >> they asked are you worried? asking him to give an opinion. what kind of answer are you expecting to be news worthy, you're not looking for piece of news, not something that's breaking, asking for him to yell at you. >> when he said that even the two most nauseating networks said it was a bad day for democrats, ms and cnn, he was quick to pounce on what was called fake news, he was on the offense even though it was good day for him. >> that's trump's nature. they are looking for ratings for sure but i think that honestly the issue of fake news continues to concern me, there's a difference between media bias and fake news and i think that, you know, president trump takes every opportunity to turn bias into what he calls fake news, prime opportunity for him to feel as he's been treated unfairly, when he's treated unfairly all of a sudden is fake. >> any question from the press corp. is out of bounds but the productive questions th

mueller, for being here. for two years leading up to the release of the mueller report and in the three months since, americans were first told what to expect and then what to believe. collusion, we were told, was in plain sight, even if the special counsel's team didn't find it. when mr. mueller produced his report and attorney general barr provided it, we read no american conspired to interfere in our elections, but learned the depths of russia's malice toward america. we are here to ask serious questions about mr. mueller's work and we will do that. after an extended unhampered investigation marks the end to an investigation that closed in april. the burden of proof is extremely high and especially in light of the special counsel's thoroughness. we are told this investigation began as an inquiry as to whether russia meddled in our 2016 election. mr. mueller, you concluded they did. russia accessed democratic servers and tricked campaign insiders inrevealing protected investigation. the investigation also r

i think it is mueller time. it is bob mueller's chance to talk about the report. i doubt very few viewers read the report. it is very long and dense. i think a lot of them will consume the report through his live testimony. a lot more people watched "godfather" the movie than read the book. >> here is the thing. you don't know what robert mueller is going to do. is there a risk for democrats when you say it is mueller time. sit back and he will put on a show. he doesn't want to put on a show. he doesn't want to be there. >> that's right. i think he's going to be speaking mostly about what he found and what's in the report, but even doing that and educating the public will be a big service. just one thing that jumps out at you about his report is how, you know, the trump campaign actually had advance knowledge of the interference that russia was going to conduct in 2016. they welcomed it. they used the fruits of that exploitation and took the meetings which they never reported and covered up later on. if even it didn't rise to a conspiracy, it was deeply unpatriot

we have enough in the mueller report. i know that people have a lot of questions outside of that, but we have 448 poijs that outlines. volume one, the russia interference. 200 contacts with the trump campaign and volume two outlining the 10 instances of obstruction of justice. personally i think if we can get that information out on wednesday, that's all we need. we don't need to go further. i'm confident we can do that. >> democrats tell me no one reads the book, but they watch the movie. they want robert mueller to be out there and talking to television so people who said that part is over and bill barr set the narrative and everyone thinks president trump is exonerated, they can listen to mueller's own words and be moved some way. that's what democrats' hopes are. robert mueller will be in an interesting place. there will be questions that go outside that will be questions that normal people want to know. people i talked to around the country, especially democrats who are frustrated by the decision not to make a decisi

mueller did.y says this was a huge report, 448 pages long, she shouldn't be expected to know every detail, but oths admit the democrats involved in the investigation that they felt mr. mueller was not quite as sharp that as they expected himo be. the reaction in the caucus is interesting as well, they just had democratics-only meeting and i'm told it wa especially lively. there were a lot oof thanks t committee chairm but not overall enthusiasm. the caucuses are still discussing what this moment means. >> woodruff: lisa, we just heard speaker pelosi said they're not ready to move ahead with impeachment. that suggests they don't think what mr. mller had to say today moved the ball down the field very much. >> iget that suggestion. i think they are mulling it over right now. we know a couple of things are going to happen, talking to sources in both committee. the judiciary committee next is going to move to push for subpoenas on don mcghan. his name came up a lot today because he is a witness that t

mueller reads them and they say to him, mr. mueller, is that accurate?that an accurate reflection of what you found, that there are these instances that suggest obstruction by the president of the united states, et cetera, et cetera? the democrats are on trial here too. and they're on trial in terms of how they conduct this investigation particularly because so much of the country has followed trump and has moved on from this. can that part of the country, some of them being re-engauged by a responsible fact-finding hearing that will bring some elucidation, some light in a whole series of events where the attorney general of the united states and the president of the united states have attempted to bury the light. >> it's interesting. when you said fact finding. but do people -- people just don't believe facts anymore. people believe ideology. and i'm wondering, even if robert mueller says what's in his report, they've already done so much damage to his reputation, i would say, right? especially if you look at conservative media, look at what the preside