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mueller is willing and also capable of defending the mueller investigation through an op-ed in "the washington post"." i am with lindsay. let's bringing mueller back in because i've got a lot of questions i'd like to send in. here with reaction, fox news contributor, former congressman trey gowdy. congressman, before you became a congressman, now you're not a congressman thankfully. i don't have to impugn that to you anymore. you were a prosecutor. if i recall, you never lost a case. is that correct? >> i had good cops and good victims, sean. >> sean: the next question is do you believe every american has a right to a fair and impartial jury? >> they do. they are presumed innocent. >> sean: did roger stone have a fair and impartial jury? >> yeah, i'm troubled. first of all, it's a political prosecution so the political views of the potential jurors are really important. what i don't know, sean, is whether or not his attorneys had the chance to strike these jurors and made a strategic decision not to. i would need to know that to be able to answer your question 100%. >> sean: i think what we do

president trump or what he found in the mueller report?ou know, knowing director mueller, i would suspect -- i don't know how he thinks about this because i haven't spoken to him about it. knowing him as a person and understanding the seriousness of his convictions, i'm sure he doesn't regret his view of the law and whether or not it would have been proper or permissible to charge a sitting president. and his determination was it was not. i don't think he regrets that decision. i think he thinks it probably wasn't a decision of his. i would bet very confidently that he regrets the way the work that team has done has been misrepresented by the president and by the administration. >> you told anderson back in february when doj dropped the criminal investigation that being labeled a liar was one of quote, the most sickening and demeaning experiences of our life. we have to remember that there were prosecutors and investigators, a whole team that worked with robert mueller and the president has attacked them for three years now. andrew mccabe,

and i think mueller was reacting not just to mueller and i think mueller was reacting notjust to thealso president trump ‘s public statements about a conviction and why the president was taking action in which the president really continued this. it has been an ongoing assault on the legitimacy of the special counsel's investigation and the integrity of the prosecutors in law and force and agencies that participated. donald trump has described this continuously as a witch hunt. how damaging is that rhetoric? rhetoric is damaging and it is damaging to notjust the individuals involved in this particular investigation but to law & 0rder more generally and i think thatis & 0rder more generally and i think that is why robert mueller felt the need to speak out, even though he has been reluctant to do so. the president's statements most recently adjust the recent iterations of this yea rs adjust the recent iterations of this years long pack on the legitimacy of ourcriminal years long pack on the legitimacy of our criminaljustice institutions and it is very damaging to those institutions to

mueller has.the work, the congressional hearings that he was involved with, he was very much like, yeah, no. true. uh-huh. i mean he said he wasn't going to say much beyond the four corners of the report and he stuck to that. knowing robert mueller, andrew, this has got to make him crazy. what is your sense of how he personally has dealt with all of this? >> well, bob mueller is a marine first and foremost and also is a patriot. and i think for barb and joyce and me, he is somebody who basically walks on water. he has just such a sterling reputation. for him to issue an op-ed and for him to pen the letter that he did to attorney general barr after attorney general barr issued a so-called four-page summary criticizing the attorney general, those are for somebody like robert mueller extreme steps. you know that he has to be fundamentally shaken to his core about what is going on at the department of justice and seeing the rule of law trampled on. >> when i saw that robert mueller had written an op-e

mueller addressed that too. quote, we made every decision in stone's case, as in all our cases, based solely on the facts and the law and in accordance with the rule of law. the women and men who conducted these investigations and prosecutions acted with the highest integrity. claims to the contrary are false, unquote. a senior member of robert mueller's team will share his thoughts a little later in the hour. we begin with coronavirus as caseloads, death toll, and hospitalizations continue to rise across the country. we also saw president trump do something apparently for the first time. he wore a mask in public. it happened at walter reed national military medical center as he visited wounded soldiers and staff. here he is explaining his decision. >> i think it's a great thing to wear a mask. i've never been against masks, but i do believe they have a time and a place. >> doctors say the time and place are always in public and anywhere you cannot socially distance. the point is to protect others from you if yo

robert mueller is sounding an alarm bell.really takes a lot to get robert mueller to speak out publicly. we saw the letter, you remember the letter he wrote to william barr where barr misstated his report. he testified a year ago, robert mueller was reluctant to say much. but the fact that he made this strong public statement was to put everyone on notice, this could happen again and this is wrong. >> you referenced the testimony. when the mueller report was released, there were democrats who wanted an impeachment inquiry then. it didn't happen. when there was an impeachment hearing, some wanted the scope expanded to include the mueller report. that did not happen. after the testimony, there wasn't much political consequence. what do you believe will be the consequences more than he spoke, but what will it mean moving forward? >> the consequences, i think, here are going to be political primarily. legally speaking, there's nothing that can be done to undo a pardon or a commutation. that just is. the president has broad legal

i want to say something about the mueller investigation, mueller testifying before the senate, muellerbe subpoenaed. if i was chairman of the house intelligence committee, that subpoena would have went out a week ago. mueller didn't know what the hell was going on. didn't even know his own report. i will say if he wrote that, he is a miraculous writer for someone didn't know what was in his report a year ago, write something like that to put it within "the washington post," within hours of commutation, it is quite amazing, isn't it? elizabeth: yeah. that is interesting. you know, the critics are saying why did robert mueller and his team investigate this? this is a story we've been reporting. now a court in great britain, documents released in the court hillary clinton knew as early as july 2016 that her campaign yes, did hire christopher steel to put together that now thoroughly discredited trump russia opposition research. that hillary's campaign and democrats bought to fight the 2016 if she lost. the fbi used it to get fisa wiretaps on the trump team. where does mueller stand on tha

ultimately, that product that is mueller report is not a product that he wrote. i think it was written by people that wanted to score political points, and it's to that end something i criticized in my book and that they could've been done a different way. it was unnecessary under the regulation and it seemed gratuitous in hindsight. >> what did you learn about doj oversight of the fbi? >> i used to say when i was united states attorney before ever came to washington, d.c., that the fbi was nominally part of the department of justice. i think one of the things everyone needed to make sure we do and continue to do is to have the fbi director follow the proper reporting mechanisms. because it is not an independent branch of the executive branch or the department of justice, and there is a chain of command. i think there is, i think especially jim comey at a don't talk about this in the book but i talk about this before, as i do think jim comey really tried to make the fbi independent from the executive branch and the department of justice, and it think it was reall

so remarkable is that bob mueller said anything. we know he's reluctant, always been that way, i said earlier a man of tremendous dignity, doesn't speak often and doesn't speak lightly. the content of what he wrote was stuff we already knew. what stone did wrong. a go-between, between the trump campaign and wikileaks and that stone refused to implicate the president. nothing new, andrea. what's new, a man of bob mueller's integrity and dignity decided to speak out about the corrupt pardon or the corrupt commutation, i should say, of roger stone's sentence. i don't think there's any reason at all for him to be subpoenaed to testify. it's a gimmick. >> and there is, in fact, one piece of now unredacted part of the mueller report which indicates there is question whether the president lied in response to his answers to mueller. the written answers to mueller involve ared in this case as well. geoff, quickly before we go, we've got to talk about washington football and the announcement today. they are renaming the team. >> yes. as you k

what got mueller so concerned that he would break his silence? >> i'm so glad bob mueller spoke out as a man of tremendous dignity and integrity. for him to speak out, andrea, is what's so unusual. he didn't say anything we haven't said before. we've read his report, know what roger stone did, but what really irked mueller and really causes me so much pain is the fact that roger stone could be a witness against the president. so here the president is using his enormous power of pardon and commutation in order to reward a witness who remained silent, refused to give testimony about the president's miscontact. that is what's so troubling. we've had bad pardons before. president clinton's pardon of mark rich was ebusiness moll and a monumental misjudgment, but this is different, because stone

matthew whitaker, was robert mueller well utilized? >> guest: i really think that what happened and one subject i talk about in the book with bob mueller is that we all saw with our own eyes him testify and i think there was a -- a lot of hopes and dreams put into his testimony, that would be -- would turn this sort of 400 plus page report into television event, bring to life and make a movie out of the become, and obviously we saw that he did not seem to have command of a lot of his investigation. i've never -- i know that when i set s.a.t. to front the judiciary committee if i answered request question if i take your can he and then waited to another question responsible saying that statement, i think most people would have been baffled like we were. he is a leader, a marine, a decorated vietnam veteran, who has obviously served more than ten years in the fbi as its director, u.s. attorney, has been -- he has done everything use do we attempt of justice with distinction. said a lot of positive thing weapons he was appointed as specia

you saw the mueller piece in "the new york times." has there been any response from the white house? >> well, it might not surprise you hugely that the white house was not particularly pleased by that scathing op-ed by robert mueller in the post yesterday. the white house responding to that in a statement saying that robert mueller and his corrupt investigation failed to hold anyone in the obama/biden administration accountable for their negligence toward russian interference. that statement going on to say that mueller should keep his promise to the american people and let the report which fully exonerated the president stand instead of pontificating in the editorial pages. we have to of course note robert mueller in his report did not exonerate the president. it explicitly stated it was not exonerating the president when it comes to obstruction of justice. >> last year, you had senate dems on the judiciary committee wanting to call mueller before the committee to discuss his report. you had senator lindsey graham denying that reques

mueller should be subpoenaed.ntelligence committee, that's mia what a minute went out a week ago. mueller did not know what the heck was going on. the name and i was on report for nick say that if you read that's, is a miraculous writer. for somebody who didn't know what was in the report a year ago, to write something like that included in the washington post within hours pretty of the commutation. it's quite amazing is in it. liz: is interesting . the critics are saying by mueller footed they investigate this . and now according great britain documents release mccartt revealed that hillary clinton knew as early as july 2015 that are coming did higher customer o put together the now discredited trump russia opposition research. hillary's campaign fight the 2016 election she lost pretty within the fbi used against vitamin and the trump team. so were smaller stand on that. guest: that is the bigger question here. roger stone, he will like this. they may get off. on whether or not he lied to congress pretty sizzling

during the mueller special thing, he wasn't right in that. everything he's done has been against what he said he was going to do when he was trying -- when he was standing in front of them trying to get that -- get that attorney general. i disapprove of him, period. i wish he would step down and be -- step down and stop all this stuff. because the man is not right. anybody can see that he knows he's not right. >> ricky in north carolina. as we told you at the beginning here, happening up on capitol hill, the casket of the late congressman john lewis is lying in state inside the rotunda of the capitol. the public viewing will begin at 8:00 a.m. eastern this morning. yesterday, lawmakers and others were able to pay their respects to the civil rights leader as well as joe and jill biden. they flew to washington to view the casket of the congressman and pay their respects yesterday inside the rotunda. there was a memorial service as well. later in the day vice president mike pence and karen pence paid their respects to john lewis during an outdoo

lindsey graham says he will call mueller to testify about the investigation following mueller's op-ed in the "washington post" slamming president trump's decision to commute roger stone's prison sentence. stone was prosecuted and convicted because he committed federal crimes. he remains a convicted felon and rightfully so. joining me now is former counsel to the house judiciary committee norm iceman, author of the book "a case for the american people." good to see you. so lot to talk about. on friday hours before the president commuted stone's sentence, senator graham tweeted in support of the move. why do you think now he's ready to call mueller in to testify, again, more than a year after the democrats first asked for it? >> chris, thanks for having me back on the show. and the reason that senator graham is behaving this way is because he evidently wants to be a part of the obstruction of justice conspiracy that seems to be unfolding between president trump and roger stone. it's one of the la meantable aspects of the era of trump instead of providing the kind of independent oversigh

so what did he do once the mueller investigation was launch? he said over and if it was a witch hunt, the said to i believe "the new york times" he would consider looking at his finances a redline and was telegraphing that he would not sit down for an interview and insisted on having only written questions sent over. and every day that the mueller investigation went on he was talking how long the investigation was taking. so mueller never went for the finances. again, for no good reason. i still don't understand why he did not look at the finances. we are, we're waiting on a court decision now that will come down any day around getting the president's taxes. but it was very compelling to hear my colleague maloney question mueller why he didn't interview him. and i'll never forget malone any saying, sir, you're a marine, you're a dogged prosecutor, you led us through september 11th september 11th and the days after. he said i don't think you have ever flipped in your life. what was the reason you flinched? and maloney surmised he believed it was

if it's not any better with regard to the last time that bob mueller. i suspect that's a good day in this political environment for the republicans. i don't see that the democrats are all that anxious to shore up bob mueller. as far as they're concerned about a counterfactual narrative, that is a disparaging comment. the truth of it is that the counterfactual narrative is actually supported by facts, namely that the mueller investigation did not really have a promise to work off of in order to do damage both to roger stone and more significantly to general flynn. that investigation has a lot of explaining to do and frankly would be, in the end, supportive of the presidents position all along that something like this should never happen to another presidential campaign or president ever again. >> harris: one last topic with you today, we have a lot to get you. i appreciate your patience. "the wall street journal" editorial board is urging the president to pardon former national security advisor michael flynn, saying it's time for the president to end thi

bob mueller is still a marine.mueller investigation something it wasn't a hoax will fall because the evidence is out for the public to see. and now the president has provided a new piece of evidence that wasn't available before by commuting roger stone's sentence. something he didn't need to do unless stone had valuable information to share about the president himself. >> well, i hope that day comes because i know we all look forward to hearing from robert mueller. steve, joyce, thank you both for joining us. always great to get your perspective. >>> next -- education secretary, steve was just talking about her, betsy devos says that schools must go back. but she provides absolutely zero guidance on how to do it. but she did criticize the plan from one of the country's largest school districts in the country. i'm going to take you there next. >>> d.c.'s football team just officially announced it will retire the team's controversial name and logo. the name, which is a reference to native americans and considered a r

democrats have made clear they want to hear from robert mueller. lindsey graham said if mueller is capable and willing of writing the op-ed, then he's open to have him testify. tonight, his team telling me a formal invitation to mueller is in the works. >> rachel, thank you. >>> and now to the deadly ambush in texas. two police officers responding to a call were shot and killed at the door of a home. the police chief said they never stood a chance. when other officers arrived, the gunman took his own life. here's janai norman with the story. >> reporter: tonight, a deadly ambush in texas. two officers shot and killed. the police chief saying they did not stand a chance. >> what i'm trying to tell you about that, in that sense, is that the officers never had a chance to suspect a deadly assault on them. >> reporter: the two officers, edelmiro garza jr., who'd been an officer for nine years, and ismael chavez, with the department for two years, responding to a call for a domestic disturbance saturday afternoon. immediately coming under fire, never ev

will they push back to get mueller testify. governor experts and abuses of power were committed under the obama administration and spying on the trump team david bossie, with the "new york times" fact-checking joe biden. you may be surprised what "the new york times" is now saying. >>> plus civil rights attorney leo terrell, rioters attacking churches and religious statues in nine states and washington, d.c., even setting religious statues and churches on fire. the debate, are these really quote, people doing what they do? is people doing what they do? top lawmaker nancy pelosi said last week? or are these hate crimes? is this the final straw turning the national debate against the rioters. >>> former wisconsin scott walker with us on reports that violent student-run groups leading the chaos in cities, they want to turn major downtown areas cities nationwide into chop zones like seattle. president trump wants to stop the tax-exempt status for colleges. he wants to get rid of their tax-exempt status. they are indoctrinating stud

why is it so crucial to erase the mueller investigation, the mueller prosecutions, the mueller guiltys ahead of november in your mind? >> i'm not sure that he's trying to erase them. what he really did was give stone a kind of half-hearted measure of dropping the criminal consequences of the conviction, but he didn't even do that very competently, because stone can be re-prosecuted and prosecuted easily by the states in new york, d.c., florida, of all places in which stone's crimes occurred, and he indeed could be prosecuted by the justice department itself in another administration for other crimes or he should be prosecuted now, but with barr at the helm, we don't think that's likely. but it wasn't even a complete erasu erasure, nicole. sometimes the president wants it to be, but here he botched even that. >> claire mccaskill, it's the death of outrage on the right that i've mourned for much of the last four years. the "access hollywood" tape, which was the beginning of republicans looking away so quickly their necks almost snapped off. we now have what is such a clear and present t

they also ignored this lie by mueller.n his op-ed mueller said, quote: by late 2016 the fbi had evidence that the russians had signaled to a trump campaign adviser that they could assist the campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to the democratic candidate. bull. according to the department of justice's inspector general, michael horowitz, and his report that campaign adviser actually said this, quote: the trump team had received some kind of suggestion from russia that it could assist the process with the anonymous release of information during the campaign that would be damaging to mrs. clinton and mr. obama. he was unclear whether he or the russians were referring to material acquired publicly or through other means. it is also highly suspect that that sentence has any meaning of any kind. meanwhile, rino senator lindsey graham weighing in. he wants mueller to testify before the senate judiciary committee. you remember how well mueller's testimony went when he was brought before congress. whethe

what is he due the day after the mueller testimony? a conversation with the president where he asked him about interfering in the election. >> so he takes another step which the house impeached him for which was a quid pro quo to an investigation of the biden's. >> burisma. >> i wanted to talk so your book came out last week and this week there's there is a book by john bolton that came out, in the room where it happened. you do write about this in your own book. you guys have tried to get bolton to testify in front of the house which he declined and then he said zero coli will testify in front of the senate. perhaps the senate isn't going to call any witnesses and i'm wondering if you have any thoughts about the cynicism of how he has held on to this information about how the president acts and whether or not [inaudible] >> the room where it happened the title of this book was actually that ways & means room where he sat for the impeachment investigation because that's the room where ivanovic chen bensimon and fiona hill gave testimon

okay. >> let's get into the op-ed by robert mueller. did it come as a surprise in why do you think that mueller felt the need to speak out ? >> because the white house statement didn't just focus on stone. it went after mueller and the people working on it and the entire id of it. it got to the core of what his mandate had been and so they were trying to undermine the entire special counsel investigation and start to set the stage to say and everyone who was prosecuted as a result of it and involved with it was treated unfairly and horribly. this isn't just about roger stone. it's about everything that can potentially come after this. and whether or not the president then goes on to grant additional clemency to other political allies of his who were caught up in the mueller investigation. >> i'm imagining this went over as well as as a lead balloon in the white house, right? >> well, with the republican allies, you've seen some of them online speaking out against this. but that was also a big deal he said he thought it was corruption at

mueller except for this. since he testified weakly, a couple things have happened.ominent of which is ric grenell really such transcripts that show that all these folks, clapper and brennan et cetera, they knew there was no collusion and they testified under oath privately, and then publicly they tried to causes insurrection. it may be very instructive and illuminating but he won't be very good if he's anything like it was a year ago. >> sandra: he has said time and time again that his investigation was only based on the law. defending that investigation, it reads "every decision in this case is based solely on the fact and the law in accordance with the will of law. the women and men who conducted these investigations and prosecutions acted with the highest integrity. claims to the contrary are false and even lindsey graham as he getting pushed back within your own party for chrome to make this happen. so what is the biggest risk to you politically if robert mueller was to agree to testify? >> the biggest risk that i would see is that he comes in and gives an incre

robert mueller does not make comments very often on the record. we also heard from robert mueller.ve not heard directly from mueller on camera but the president repeatedly say stone was unfairly targeted, we've made every decision as in all of our cases to act by the law and in accordance of rule of law. president trump appears to be brushing off criticism that he's been getting over the stone. mueller's op-ed say that it's no place to be speaking out. they believe the russia report should speak for itself. president trump also weighing in on the stone controversy last night. >> people are extremely happy because in this country they want justice and roger stone was not treated properly. mark: but this decision has really sparked new outrage with democrats accusing president of abusing power. we heard from chairman of house judiciary committee in a tweet in which jerry nadler said, quote, partisanship and cronyism and attack it -- attacks rule of law, and at least one power senate republican also had concern, pat toomey writing, i understand the frustration with the badly flawed ru

what is your reaction to the rare public remarks from mueller? bill barr appear to be on the same page when it comes to roger stone. the president obviously on a very different page. >> the idea we haven't heard from mueller since july of 2019. it's been able a year since we heard from him. and to hear him talk about it, compelled to offer the explanation and defend in a way he frankly didn't defend with the same vigor to have him and attorney general barr talk about it being a righteous prosecution? there is a reason for that. that is not somebody who was handed down a preosecution. it was jury trial. and the people with a jury, decided he was guilty of federal crimes. remember, federal prosecutors stepped back. they were trying to roll back his sentence. that is how much they felt he violated the federal law. you hear the president of the yith not fully pardoning but come mutding. the president does not feel as though the witch hunt line he has been running, he felt he still had to do it. it's shocks. >> it's pretty amazing too, that the attorn

what will mueller's statement in this op-ed do?ch it to see the severity of what the president is doing? he is breaking the rule of law for a man who knows all of the key players, knows everything about russia and knows everything about russia's involvement and the 2016 presidential election. >> april ryan and carrie cordero, thank you. good to have you here. >> thank you, thank you. >>> a "large number of u.s. marines" in japan tested positive for coronavirus. according to the governor of k okina okinawa. the governor can't help but have doubts the prevention measures the u.s. is taking. this and much more next in your weekend presidential beef. >>> firbrief. >>> and christine romans have a preview with your "before the bell" report. >>> and worst earning since the great recession. companies reporting second quarter results this week. profits for the s&p 500 are expected to decline by nearly 44%. that's the biggest drop since the fourth quarter of 2008. there's a lot more uncertainty than usual this time. more than half of s&p 500

tax returns, roger stone, robert mueller. again. joining me now is daniel goldman. he served as majority counsel during house impeachment inquiry. before that he was an assistant u.s. attorney in the southern district of new york. daniel, you lived this more intensely than most of us. and you know, sometimes i look back at what we thought was going to be the biggest story of the year, if not the decade. of course we look back now and think we had no idea what we were even in for. let's start with roger stone. you tweeted -- and these are your words. only one explanation for this blatant corruption makes sense trump has given up on re-election and is just trying to save his own hyde. what did you mean by that? >> we sort of crossed the rubicon with roger stone a little bit because this is the first time trump has gone out of his way to pardon someone, commute a sentence or in any way use his own power in order to help himself, donald trump, as opposed to political allies or friends or other people in his network or social circ

centers with the attorney general's office and the deputy attorney general for the purposes of the mueller investigation. it was very difficult the to validate that and return to regular order in a normal chain of command. >>host: in your book you write every american with personal politics to be concerned but i saw happen to donald trump inside the us department of justice 2017 and 2019. what did you see? >> i saw so many things. primarily i saw the department of justice at its best was a force for good and law and order and doing justice and at its worst when it didn't follow regular order was not predicate in the investigation glossing over basic and fundamental practices of the organization. for example when there was no evidence or counter evidence was developed they continued to go down a path to investigate crimes that ultimately on the mueller report there was never any evidence that supported that investigation so to remind the department of justice that we do the right thing for the right reason to follow those time-honored practices that puts in its place and then to be hurt by

. >> it started with the mueller report, led by former fbi director and longtime prosecutor robert mueller. the special council indited 34 people, including senior trump associates, during his 22-month probe into alleged ties between the trump campaign and the russian government during the 2016 election. before the report was released to the public, barr misrepresented mueller's findings in a four-page summary. >> barr said as the president often said, no obstruction, no collusion. what mueller said was, i can't prove collusion and there was plenty of evidence of obstruction of justice. >> weeks passed before americans could read the redacted report. >> and that gave the president an incredible gift. weeks of a false public understanding that there was no obstruction and no collusion. >> the report concluded that, while the mueller team could not find prosecutable evidence of conspiracy, there was evidence of at least ten potential separate instances of obstruction of justice. decidedly not the no collusion, no obstruction spin that barr gave the public. >> attorney general barr is over th

mueller has been silent since his appearance before congress last summer. so it been nearly a year and we haven't heard from the special counsel and yet we've heard repeated repeatedly from the president denouncing it as a witch hunt. mueller wanted to defend the work of his team and his inquiry and to remind the american people why that special counsel into russian interference in the le election was so paramount to begin with. this was a foreign power in our election trying to help hillary clinton lose and donald trump win. and mueller feels like his comments have been distorted by the president and so he's trying to make that clear. >> you wrote yesterday in the "post" about how the president always paints himself as a victim. we saw some of that in the statement that the white house put out. it's almost as if it was preemptively answering what they knew would be the uproar about it. what are you hearing these days about how he is doing, the things he is saying when he's inside the white house with his advisers? >> well, chris, the president is not in a

well, it's possible that we could see robert mueller up on capitol hill.he chairman of the senate judiciary committee, senator graham says he would like to see mueller testify in the next several weeks. although it is unclear exactly if and when that may happen. meantime, democrats are also demanding they look into president's pardoning powers when it comes to this. here's what adam schiff had to say. >> the president through this commutation is basically saying if you lie for me, cover up for me, if you have my back, then i will make sure you get a get out of jail free card. >> the president did not have any public events today, but washington is still abuzz over what we saw yesterday at walter reed. take a look at the video as the president was spotted in a face mask in the first time with cameras rolling. you can see him there with the military encourage as well as his secret service entourage. the mask he was wearing had the presidential seal stamped on one side. all this comes as the president's support is pushing for schools to reopen this fall. we h

perhaps this op ed that robert mueller wrote got a little bit under his skin. and he thought okay, let me call him in. but remember, it was only a few days ago that president trump who was upset about rulings at the supreme court that were unrelated criticized lindsey graham and said he wasn't go far enough, wasn't doing enough to look into that information, to look into the obama administration, to -- when which he says eavesdropped on his campaign and he has allegations. he was critical a few days ago and urged senator graham to do more and here he's trying to do more. >> joyce, is there something you think is useful about hearing from robert mueller at this stage? like, i don't know, 14, 15 months after he was first after democrats first wanted to hear from him? >> you know, mueller says it best in the piece that he wrote for the washington post where he says, our investigation should speak for itself. and then he's forced to go on and talk about the bonn parts of the investigation and what a central part roger stone was. mueller has said his piece. as you p

director james comey instead arranged all of that to be leaked to the media to get mueller appointedhill media reporter, joe concha. your thoughts. >> my thoughts is that, well, james comey has9 another book coming out in january 2021. it was just announced this week. he did a media tour first book two years ark made millions of dollars off of it. in other words, there is no accountability for james comey. and remember, let's be clear about this. many news organizations were pitched that dossier way back when in 2016, and almost all rejected it except for buzzfeed who published the whole thing without any disclaimers. cnn followed suit, then from there it gets into the public doe main, we have nice a warrants, and then james comey admits may of 2017, senate intelligence committee, as you said, that he purposely leaked to the media through "the new york times" in order to induce a special counsel to investigate russia collusion. he says this in open testimony x nothing happens to james comey. so here we are now, right? the trump-russia collusion, that whole -- in terms of narrative wh

laura, so what's your reaction to these rare public remarks from mueller?ll barr actually appear to be on the same page when it comes to roger stone. the president obviously in a different -- on a different page. >> i mean, the idea that we haven't heard from mueller since july of 2019, it's been about a year since we've heard from him, and to hear him talk about it, feeling compelled to offer the explanation and to defend in a way that frankly he didn't even defend when he was in the hearing before congress with the same vigor, to have him and attorney general barr talk about this being a righteous prosecution. well, there's a good reason for that, wolf. because this was not somebody who was simply handed down a conviction by prosecutors. it was a jury trial. remember? so the idea here that the people of the jurisdiction with the presentation of evidence decided that he was guilty of federal crimes, remember, this is the same person where prior prosecutors stepped back because they were trying to roll back his sentence. that's how much they felt invested,

robert mueller breaking his silence. penned and op-ed in the "washington post" titled "roger stone remain as convicted felon and rightly so." mueller, you recall served at special counsel overseeing the two-year russian investigation ending in conviction of eight individuals. because of the sentence is commuted he will not go to prison but his conviction stands. my old friend nbc kelly o'donnell joins me from the white house now. kelly good to see you. quite a departure. robert mueller doesn't come out and talk, publish op-eds all that often? >> reporter: very rare and certainly during a time serving as special counsel he was silent as is the normal state of things. he testified on capitol hill and has mostly moved into a quiet life. this response is going right at the president's action, because this is the first time that he's used his clemency power against a figure in the russia investigation by erasing the prison sentence of roger stone, his longtime friend and political operative. robert mueller here goes through a

is new in the mueller report, but it isn't new. the period in which from the time the redacted mueller report was released, until now, the stone trial happened. and all of this evidence -- or not quite all but most of it -- was presented in the trial against roger stone. what was not presented was a few coherent paragraphs that lay it all out and tell the story, which is what mueller did. and so, it still reads a little bit shocking, you know, that the president is in his limousine. and he takes a call from roger stone. and then, he tells his deputy campaign manager, there's going to be more wikileaks stuff coming. you know, and so, look. there has always been a question about to what extent roger stone was really in touch with wikileaks and julian assange. and to what extent he was kind of running people to be his go-betweens. and to what extent he was kind of full of luster. but, yeah, the full story, when you actually see it written down, remains a pretty shocking one. and for the president to say, nah, not worth any jail time.

in an opinion piece published last night in "the washington post," mueller said he broke a long silence because he felt compelled to respond to claims that "our investigation wasle timate and our motives were improper, and to specific claims that roger stone was a victim of our office." president trump has repeatedly called the investigation a" witch hunt" and a "hoax." stone waslso said " oseced and convicted because he committed federal crimes. he remains a convicted felon, and rightly so." stone was found guilty of seven felonies, including obstructing a congressional investigation, lying to investigators and witness tampering. joining us now for m the president's decision to commute roger stone's senttice and the re from special counsel robert mueller is ryan goodman, a professor of law at new york univerty and co-editor in chief of "just security." heara lot of people over the last 24, 36 hours about whether this was appropr what are the kind of longer terl consequences l from the president doing this? >> so the lonrger tem consequences in terms of what the law actually allows are

claimeds, alleging he and robert mueller has a business consecutive spout and mueller had conflict of interest and that would disqualify him from investigating the trump campaign. what trump describes as a conflict of interest, i his own aides describe as petty and ridiculous. robert mueller was once a member of the trump golf club in virginia. had not been using it for years because he was living and work neglect district and at one point he tried to get a refund from the club, and he and the club manager by all intents purposes looks like a very courtal back and forth between them and then i guess robert mueller gave up on the refund and that's its and trump spins this into some business dispute and a conflict of interest, claims about robert mueller he had a separate conflict love interest because he was interviewed to be the fbi director when trump just fired james comey the reason for the russian investigation. but actually what wow see in the mule are report and what we put in the book and we fact check social distance many times because the president says its constantly, robert

graham twe "ats f muellersty tor gram tells cbs mueller while the white house says mueller wasted taxpayer dollars with his investigation. jamie? >> yuccas: nikole, thank you. a new cbs news-battleground tracker poll out today looks at the presidential race in three states heavily impacted by the coronavirus. arizona, texas and florida. for more i'm joined by anthony salvanto cbs news elections and survey director. anthony, first, thank you so much for being with us. i want to jump in right away. these are all states the president won in 2016. needs to win them again. has the outbreak in these states shaken up the presidential race at all? >> it certainly seems to, jamie. first you see that a majority of people in these states tell us they think their states reopened their economies too quickly and they feel the states did that under pressure from the trump administration. then we see the people who are concerned about getting the coronavirus increasingly voting for joe biden. well, that's a personal calculu that have been reliably republican in recent years and now they are all competitiv

>> well, look, i think the question does mueller know where mueller is, okay? who was put up as an avatar to give credibility to this investigation that was phony from the beginning, okay. i'm not just talking about in 2016. i'm talking about the day that mueller walks in the door. i'm not sure he knows what the hell is going on. clearly a couple years later when he testifies before congress, to not know who fusion gps is astounding. the democratic party, it is very odd for a party that seems to be, you know, against white people and always talking about racism, they sure liked prop up these avatar old white dudes. they have one running for president right now who is hiding in his basement who won't answer questions. what was his involvement? his presidential candidate was one who concocted the idea of using the logan act to infiltrate the trump campaign. maria: you made 14 criminal referrals, with a 15th pending. we're waiting on john durham to investigate that. we'll hear more from john durham soon i assume. let me move on real quick about the technology ceos