mullins: hi. i'm dave mullins. thank you. this is not about the cake. this has never been about the cake. and this is not about weddings. it has never been about weddings. no. this is about freedom, freedom for lgbt people to live full lives in public and not in constant fear that they will be denied basic services, fired from their jobs, or lose their homes because of who they are. when people live in a world when they can legally be turned away, they feel rejected, unsafe, they feel they do not belong in our society simply for being born different. and unless society chooses to embrace their rights, some of them will simply choose to remain hidden. cut off from the world and who they really are. to this day, charlie and my experience in masterpiece cake shop is a persistent memory, the memory of the mortification and humiliation does not go away. it is always there the next time we walk into a business, wondering whether the same thing will happen, and maybe we should just pretend we are not a and are not married just to be safe. in the next time some

mullins and his mother. but what i'm describe something -- but what i am actually describing is something that happened it in 1964 to three african-american customers at a barbecue restaurant in south carolina. that led to the supreme court seminal decision on race discrimination and public accommodations, newman vs. piggy park, which ilya alluded to earlier. it is deja vu all over again f -- at that restaurant piggy park, , owned by a man named maurice, , he was deeply religious and believed serving black customers, contributing to racial intermixing contravened a will of god. when a black baptist minister sought to enter the restaurant. the owner's in the doorway to block him. stood in the hallway to block him. when two other patrons tried to come in. he refused and only allowed them to purchase food if they refused to eat it on the premises. the customers sued. alleging that he had violated title 2 of the civil rights act of 1964. which is very similar to i think we would all agree to the colorado law at

mullins and his mother. but what i'm describe something what happened in 1964. to three african-american customers at a barbecue restaurant in south carolina. that led to the supreme court seminal decision on race discrimination and public accommodations, newman vs. piggy park, which ilya alluded to earlier. it is deja vu all over again f restaurant, piggy park, owned by a man named maurice, he a believed serving black customers, contributing to intermixing coin tra -- contravened a will of god . when a black baptist minister sought tonighter the restaurant. he stood in the door way to block him. when two other patrons tried to come in. he rue fused and only allowed if they urchase food refused to eat it on the premises. the customers sued. allege that is he had violated title 2 of the civil rights act of 1964. if they i thinkmilar to we would all agree to the colorado law at issue here. when the case reached the supreme court, it unanimously affirmed holding that his conduct violated title 2. as the district court explained, free exercise of one's beliefs as di

but to hear somebody else say it, you know. >> reporter: that mullins had lied?was kind of proud of what he'd done. >> yeah. >> reporter: now this snitch-on-snitch story had the appeals judge's attention. >> the judge had to make a determination that the result of the trial would probably have been different. >> reporter: because mullins' story was that important in getting the conviction? >> right. >> reporter: the judge vacated rick's conviction, saying the new county solicitor, the one who had replaced humphries, could re-file charges if he wanted. the solicitor said he did not. so in 2013, after eight years inside, rick gagnon walked out of prison. he settled on the carolina coast now, married with children. >> just the smell of the ocean, you know? it's like freedom. it was a terrible thing that, you know, i went to prison for something i didn't do. it's changed my life. >> reporter: his old girlfriend believes her life was upended too. bambi says she's cut ties with most of the people she grew up with. the tobacco fields she still owns are pretty much her o

five years ago charlie craig and david mullins went to "masterpiece cakeshop" in lakewood, colorado.(f jack phillips' cakes for their wedding. phillips refused. the a-c-l-u successfully represented craig and mullins in colorado's lower courts.( darya ) kron 4's washington correspondent will be at the supreme court this morning. we will get an update on the case in a live report coming up in the 9:00 hour. ( darya ) coming up on the kron 4 morning news... south bay police accuse two brothers of running an organized crime ring... now the search is on for more suspects. ( darya ) and... putting the blame on california... why the state is being blamed for expensive egg prices across the nation. ( james ) breaking news out of southern california... a fast moving wildfire has exploded in size in ventura county. the "thomas fire" has burned 31-thousand acres. right now there is áno containment. 150 have been destroyed and roughly eight- thousand home [burke] at farmers, we've seen almost everything so we know how to cover almost anything. even a "red-hot mascot." [mascot] hey-oooo! whoop, wh

dave mullins and his husband were planning a celebration back in 2012 after their wedding. >> he asked us who the cake was for. and when we said it was for us, he said he would not make a cake for a same-sex wedding. >> i tried to respectful leah apologize. i couldn't create this thing. i will gladly sell you anything in my shop but i can't >> mullins and his husband filed and won a discrimination complaint but he says he was exercising his right to free speech and freedom of religion. the court will decide on the case by late june of 2018. >>> incredible pictures of what is left after a house exploded in baltimore county. luckily no one was hurt. nearly a dozen funeral homes in d.c. are facing major scrutiny after an undercover operation by the city. and then this family is enlisting its dog to fight back against porch pirates in an act of smelly revenge. >>> after >> the longest serving members of the house of representatives is retiring under a cloud of accusations of sexual misconduct. john conyers of michigan is stepping down immediately but insist that's allegations of sexual mis

i'm dave mullins. thank you. this is not about the cake. this has never been about the cake. and this is not about weddings. it has never been about weddings. no. this is about freedom, freedom for lgbt people to live full lives in public and not in constant fear that they will be tonight basic services, fired from their jobs, or lose their homes because of who they are. when people live in a world when they can legally be turned away, they feel rejected, unsafe, they feel they do not belong in our society simply for being born different. and unless society chooses to embrace their rights, some of them will simply choose to remain hidden. cut off from the world and who they really are. to this day, charlie and my's experience in masterpiece cake shop is a persistent memory, the memory of the mortification and not go away.oes it is always there the next time we walk into a business, wondering whether the same thing will happen, and maybe we should just pretend we are not a and are not married just to be safe. in the next time someone harasses you on the street, a little bit of

>> yang: craig and mullins are no less passionate about their position. >> when we go into a business. you know, it's in the back of our mind: are we able to be served equally here? can we talk about our relationship openly? can we hold hands in public? all of these insecurities are, you know, have manifested through this experience. >> yang: leading all three to an unexpected date in washington. did you ever think that you'd be going before the supreme court? >> before all this happened, i didn't know how the court worked. a fantastic thing to think about the importance of this issue and be part of it is pretty amazing. >> we never asked to be sitting here, honestly. but you know, we're grateful that we have the opportunity to have this platform to talk about >> you read about the supreme court when you were in school. it's not a place you go in and certainly not a place you'd go to watch your case be argued. >> yang: now nine justices will have their say in this tale of three men, a cake and their conflicting rights. whatever they decide, the ruling could have widespread implication

five years ago charlie craig and david mullins went to...erpiece cakeshop in lakewood, colorado. they wanted one of jack phillips' cakes for their wedding. phillips refused. ( darya ) the a-c-l-u successfully represented craig and mullins in colorado's lower courts. as a result, phillips has stopped making all wedding cakes, even though he says it was 40-percent of his business. and now the matter goes to the supreme court. and kron 4's washington correspondent is in the court room this morning. we will get an update on the case in a live report coming up in the 9:00 hour. ( darya ) coming up on the kron 4 morning news... we continue to follow breaking news out of southern california. a wildfire forcing thousands of people to evacuate this morning. we will have an update coming up in minutes.

mullins one bit, but there are dignity interests on the other side here too. justice sotomayor: counsel, sometimes it's not just dignity. a couple of the briefs -- one of the amici briefs pointed out that most military bases are in isolated areas far from cities and that they're in areas where the general population, service population, is of one religion or close to one religious belief. so where there might be two cake bakers. they name a couple of military bases like that. or two florists or one photographer. very small number of resources. general francisco: right. justice sotomayor: and in those situations, they posit, and i don't think probably wrongly, that it may come to pass where the two cake bakers will claim the same abstention here. so how do we protect the military men and women who are of the same sex who want to get married in that town because that's where all their friends are, because the base is there? general francisco: right. justice sotomayor: all right? how do we protect those people? general francisco: and, your honor, i think that is

. >> reporter: when david mullins and charlie craig of denver wanted a cake to celebrate wedding, went to masterpiece cake but owner jake phillips told them know saying against his religious believes. they sued saying no religious exception to colorado law against discrimination. >> felt rejected. >> turned us away because of who we are instead of who we ask for. >> reporter: phillips backed by trump administration says cakes are works of art and requiring to make for same sex weddings would be violating freedom of expression. >> can't celebrate something that i believe goes against biblical teaching. >> reporter: many on the court wonder where to draw the line as hundreds on each side try to outshout each other outside the court. >> ginsberg, if cake is art, how about flowers. >> what about the makeup? >> reporter: justice kennedy, likely the deciding vote asked could the baker put a sign in window we don't bake cakes to gay weddings? wouldn't that be affront to gay community? but said colorado was neither tolerant or respectful to cake maker's beliefs. necessary in free society. and

david mullins and charlie craig wanted to celebrate their marriage and for the cake they went to the masterpiece cake shop near denver. >> he asked who the cake was for. we told him it was for us and immediately he informed us he would not make a cake for a same sex wedding. >> the owner, jack phillip, said he offered to sell the men anything in the shop that was already made, but he would not create a cake. >> i was allowed to use my artistic vision to create works of art that are beautiful and distinctive and that mark the beginning of something sacred. >> jack said he routinely turns down jobs that violate his religious belief. >> i don't create cakes for halloween, promote sexual or anti-american themes or disparage people including people who identify as lgbt. >> today the justices struggled to come up with a rule to settle this issue. jack's lawyer christian wagner argued that the government should not force artists to violate their beliefs. >> that same religious faith that inspires him also insures that he doesn't create cakes that express messages that violate his conscience

dave mullins and charlie craig sued for discrimination back in 2013. courts sided with the couple - but a final decision is now in the hands of the supreme court. also from the supreme court - a victory for president trump's travel ban. the justices.. ruling can take effect. the ban places limits on travel from six-majority muslim countries -- plus north korea and venezuela. right now - prosecutors want paul manafort's bail revoked. special counsel prosecutors say trump's former campaign manager was ghostwriting an editorial about his political work in ukraine. but they say he was working with a russian with ties to russian intelligence. and he was doing it as recently as last week. manafort faces felony charges related to his work in ukraine. this morning - shifting explanations for why president trump fired national security adviser michael flynn have revived questions about whether the president obstructed in counsel robert mueller's russia probe. he has come to the defense of flynn - who pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi. trump has said before tha

bugattis in the world, and peter mullin has dedicated his life to bringing these cars back to the wayow this 1925 bugatti brescia got here, well, it's even crazier than it looks. >> you look at this car, and it looks like maybe it needs to be in a junkyard. well, it isn't. it's a piece of artwork. [playful music] in 1934, it was owned by a very famous race car driver called rené dreyfus, who had won the million franc race in 1937. he was a person who liked to gamble in addition to, uh, racing cars and was playing poker with a gentleman named bodé, who was from, uh, switzerland, and mr. dreyfus put up this car to cover his bets. well, mr. bodé had a much better hand. >> mr. bodé took the kitty and headed home. >> he was stopped by a border guard. "welcome to switzerland, and you owe us a ton of money." the taxes had not been paid on that car for many, many years, and the taxes were actually much more than the car was actually worth at the time, and the rule in switzerland was, if the car was not worth as much as the duty that was owed on it, property was to be destroyed. so the concept

couple charlie craig and david mullins pursue discrimination charges. they won before civil rights commission and lower courts, and mr. phillips appealed and the supreme court agreed to the case. that case will come before the court this morning at ten eastern when they ulcer from attorneys and others at the oral argument will be on c-span on friday at eight eastern. as the attorneys at all of those involved in the case are preparing to enter the court, we're watching the scene outside of the court. again, people have been lined up since yesterday to get an opportunity to sit in on the oral argument. we watched the scene outside the court until ten when the case gets underway. [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] >> [inaudible conversations] [background sounds] [background so

>> same-sex couple, mullins and craig of denver, said a cake shop refused to make their wedding cake ago. the bakery owner said it is against his religion, forcing him to express views against his religious beliefs, violating his rights. colorado courts ruled in favor of the couple. now the supreme court takes up phill phillip's appeal tomorrow. >> mullins and craig joins us now for their first live interview. gentlemen, welcome. i mean, did you ever guess, or were you hoping that this argument, this fight, would go this far? >> well, hi. i think we want to start at the beginning here. you know, five and a half years ago, charlie and i were getting married. we were really excited. like all couples getting married, we had a million details to finalize. on this particular day, it was really special. charlie's mom was in town for a business conference, and this was kind of her one chance to be involved in planning the wedding with us. so our reception planner suggested masterpiece cake shop to us. we looked at their website. thought they looked good. so we made an appointment. we went i

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case revolves around a same sex couple that wanted a custom wedding cake but the baker refused dave mullinsnerwe were just mortified and humiliated the colorado civil rights commission argues the owner of masterpiece cakeshop, jack phillips, can't discriminate against same sex couples. phillips says this case is about his freedom of expression and that his religious beliefs prevent him from serving same sex couples. jack phillips / owner, masterpiece cake shopphillips lost his case and appeal - now the supreme court of the united states has the final say.alexnadra limon / @alexlimonnewsthe supreme court justices heard oral arguments from both sides - in a case that will decide whether business owners can cite religious beliefs as a reason to turn away customers. dave millins and charlie craig - the couple who was turned away - say they support religious freedom.dave mullins but you cannot practice your faith in a way that denigrates others or excludes them from private life.both sides say the outcome of the case could have huge implications in the future.dave mullincould a hotel honor refus

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on the other side, you have supporters for the couple, and dave mullins. they arrived here and sat on the steps as the this is a landmark case that pits the baker's religious rights against the gay couple free of discrimination. the masterpiece cakeshop versus the colorado civil rights commission. jack philips was sued one year after he refused to make a the same-sexfor couple because of his religious beliefs. the couple was referred to him by their wedding planner. that he violated the antidiscrimination law, but the baker argues he has free speech and religious rights under the first amendment. jack philips addressed the media outside the court. >> i have had to stop creating the wedding art that i loved. i have faced death threats and harassment. stopping the wedding art has cost us much of our business. so much soe from charlie and dave. they said this was never about was aboutr a cake, it freedom. the decision is not happening any time soon. we expect a decision by late june. ryan hughes, abc 7 news. adrianna: a hearing in a defamation lawsuit against

. >> mullins and craig were getting married in massachusetts and were planning a celebration back home colorado. >> i was embarrassed that by mom had to see me go through that and you know, to be honest, i started to break down and i cried. >> i tried to respectfully apologize that i couldn't create this thing. >> phillips who grew up drawing and painting says his cake are personal artistic impressions. >> i serve everybody so in this case i will gladly sell you anything in my shop but this is an event i can't create a cake for. >> but to mullins and craig it was discrimination. they filed a complaint against phillips and won. >> what we went through was humiliating and painful and degrading and another loving couple to have to go through that. >> but for phillips the ordeal was also painful. >> phone calls were coming, harassing, swearing at you to where my wife was afraid to come into the shop at points. there were tears and it was just like what's going on? what do we do? >> phillips stopped making wedding cakes so he wouldn't be forced to violate his believes. >> and what if the su

charlie craig and dave mullins work planning their recession and were referred to phillips by their weddinglanner. is accused of violating the antidiscrimination laws. the baker is arguing that he has free speech rights that should protect him. the american civil liberties union sided with the couple, saying that a ruling for phillips could open the door to more discrimination by businesses. state leaders and lawmakers are expected to rally out here this morning. both sides of the argument and we should have a decision by late june. that's the latest outside of the supreme court. now to a bigger competent for local students. a middle school choir, recently honored in virginia. autria: kidd o'shea is at the gainesville middle school for the arts and sciences. , i think it's safe to say, you go, girl. kidd: this is the advanced women's ensemble here and i'm with the principal. you have got to be very proud of these girls. >> i am so proud of them. we try to create a culture will -- where students can read's their highest levels and these ladies have done just that. it is so it -- so important

. >> cragg and mullins filed charges of discoloration and when phillips lost he was ordered to begin making wedding cakes for same-sex couples underreport the government about any business he turned away. both sides have unwittingly become spokespersons for their opposing positions, each believing they will ultimately triumph at the supreme court. >> shannon: in order to stand up trouble, phillips stopped offering wedding cakes for anyone. hope that's temporary. he said it was 40% of his business. the justices will have a decision by the end of the term in june. artwork by suspected terrorists being celebrated and defended on a college campus. hear from students themselves next. liberty mutual stood with me when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night, so he got home safe. yeah, my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. what?! you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. ♪ >> what would someone have to do for you do not want their artwork on campus? >> i don't know, a massacre or something like that. >> like terrorists? >> like bi

keeping kevin mullins' memory alive. we have the homeowner here doing this year after year in tribute. kevin's parents are here, john and laura muller, who can talk about how you feel about this tribute that keeps going years after his passing, laura. >> i feel fortunate to be involved in this community that keeps his memory alive and also awareness to the fight against cancer. >> what a beautiful tribute. some of the younger ones had to leave to go to school. we have dave smith who brought his mystery machine bus here. it's in the driveway here. ke w a lot of children fighting cancer go and get together and they enjoy themselves. this kind of tribute in a community also helps a young person fighting the fight. >> much like this community, camp fantastic is a support to help kids feel normal and loved and well-supported. >> mike will continue to keep the tribute going every holiday season putting kevin's name in lights in the midst of his elaborate display. we'll call it elaborate, right? all right. there's a message for

david mullins, they were here for arguments. here's what he said.t's not about a cake. >> this isn't about a cake. this has never been about cakes. this isn't about a wedding. this has never been about weddings. no, this is about freedom. freedom for lbgt people to live. not afraid that they will lose their homes or be fired just because of who they are. >> supporters of the baker say none of that will be at issue. they say this is simply about allowing someone with deep religious convictions to be able to turn away business if they view themselves as an artist and don't want to have to create something that endorses an idea that they don't believe in. jack has had a tough time. he's had to shut down 40% of his business because he doesn't do wedding cakes after being ordered by the state of colorado that he will have to do cakes for everybody. here's what he said after the argument today. >> it is hard that the government is making me choose between providing for my family or choosing god. that is not freedom or tolerance. >> we've had hundreds if n

charlie craig, and dave mullins, the couple as well as their attorney. they are welcome to join us anytime that we are glad you're here. it's a hot bench. it means you couldn't get an answer out. many of the attorneys, there were four of you, couldn't get the answers are before the next question was on top of you. what did you make it worth case when today? to go i think the judge has askd insightful questions, hard questions for both sides in a carefully looking at the implications, forcing people to express messages that would violate their religious convictions and it concerned the justices. >> shannon: the argument is jack phillips, he's an artist as he creates cakes. my understanding he was happy for the couple to buy premade items but he didn't want to engage in something that he would have to craft with his artistic skills. justice sotomayor gave you a bed of a hard time today and said there are sandwich artists, people who create beauty and what they make but we don't call it expressive and entitled to first amendment protection. how is making a

couple charlie cragg and david mullins say this isn't about cake. >> this is about freedom.edom for lgbt people to live full lives in public and not in constant fear they will be denied basic service in businesses, fired from their jobs or lose their homes for who they are. >> during today's arguments, justice sonia sotomayor questioned the baker's claims. "there are sandwich artist now. there are people who crave beauty and what they make but wd entitled to first amendment protection." when advocates tried to equate phillips actions to those who once denied service on the basis of race, chief justice john roberts noted that when the supreme court decided it's same-sex marriage case two years ago, "it went out of its way to talk about the decent and honorable people who may have opposing views." justice anthony kennedy who has often ruled in favor of lgbt interest was tough on both sides. raised eyebrows when he said this. "counselor, tolerance is essential to free society intolerance is most meaningful when it's mutual. it seems to me this date, and its position here, has b

as pete was just referencing, charlie craig and dave mullins said they only wanted to be treated equally by colorado law. >> we're two regular guys that just were wronged and we decided to stand up for ourselves. most importantly, we want everyone to be treated equally. this isn't about a cake. this has never been about a cake. and this isn't about weddings. it has never been about weddings. no. this is about freedom. >> joining me now is debbie munn, the mother of charlie craig, a respondent in the case. mrs. munn, thank you very much. tell me your reaction after hearing the arguments today. >> after a very long journey, i was with my son when they were turned away from the bakery five and a half years ago. i witnessed a lot of sadness that day. and to know that after hearing the arguments that we know that this step is over, it's a huge relief. i witnessed, as a mother, my son being turned away because of who he was and because of who he loved. and as a parent, it's extremely hard to watch rejection from a complete stranger. to have somebody as a complete stranger say you're not good e

. >> sreenivasan: on one of those calls last year, lieutenant james mullins was pricked by a needle.ests and treatment followed. how'd your life change after that? >> my personal life at home changed quite a bit, because of not knowing, the unknowns, that i, if i had a disease. >> sreenivasan: the fallout changed the way he views the city's attempts to save people who repeatedly overdose. he wonders if these programs might actually be attracting more drug users to the area ... fueling the cycle. >> you have to keep telling yourself that, you know, this has been a 20-year decline and it's not going to be fixed in a year or two. >> sreenivasan: police chief joseph ciccarelli says all of this will probably get worse before it gets better. >> you see abandoned buildings, abandoned houses. and these were neighborhoods that were, you know, working class neighborhoods 30, 40 years ago because there were jobs here. >> sreenivasan: neighborhoods that have become the scenes of devastation, including one mass casualty situation last year when 26 people overdosed in a single day. >> we had one,

they are their own arm of, according to admiral mike mullins, 2011 testimony before the senate armedes committee, haqqani network is an integral part or arm of the pakistani army. so terrorist groups do not operate generally in a vacuum. there are state links from yemen to egypt to saudi arabia, turkey. so the haqqani said and it's a really good point you brought up, the haqqani said are unique in that they are neither isis, neither al-qaeda. they are neither the taliban. they were the mujahedin. publicly they state that they are the taliban, but they hold a unique position pakistani army. and when i was with the cia, former head of the cia in pakistan when we were technical advisors i think the title on charlie wilson's war, we're having lunch in a hotel in hollywood, and i asked him about the haqqanis and he lowered his head and he said i wish they'd come over to our side. so there was a bond that develop between, to go with the haqqanis and the cia, and i cannot claim innocence or because there is a bond between us in a certain way and that they would allow me to come back and see

mullin: thank you, chairman roe, for allowing this to come to the floor. leader mccarthy. i also thank my fellow senators from ok o ok for their great getting this passed in the senate. as the sponsor of h.r. 4 t. the house companion bill to senate 1266, i getting this passed wan colleagues to support and pass this in favor of today's bill. nearly a year ago we debated this bill on the floor and saw vote.s by voice i look forward to another strong response from the house and sending this bill to the president's desk and it becoming law. this bill simply authorizes the department of veterans affairs to contract with nonprofit organizations that a credited health care organizations in order to investigate the v.a. medical centers. this bill would allow the v.a. to get a second opinion from outside the agencies in order to get the best information and provide the best care for veterans. just like patients sometimes need to get a second opinion on their diagnosis, the v.a. should also be able to bring in someone and get a second opinion. our veterans deserve care equal to the

one of those, one member of the couple's david mullins, and he spoke yesterday. >> this is not about cake. this has never been about a cake. this is not about weddings, it has never been about weddings. no. this is about freedom. freedom for lgbt people who live full lives in public and not in constant fear they will be denied basic service in businesses, fired from their jobs, or lose their homes just for who they are. when people live in a world where they can legally be turned away, they feel rejected. they feel unsafe. they feel like they do not belong in our society, simply for being born different. unless society chooses to embrace their rights, some of them multiply choose to remain hidden. cut off from the world and who they really are. to this day, charlie and i have experienced -- cake shop is a persistent memory, the memory of the mortification and humiliation doesn't just go away, it is always there the next day when we walk into a business, wondering if the same thing will happen and maybe we should just pretend we are not gay and are not married, just to be safe. and th

this is what charlie craig and david mullins looked like five years ago...today they are a little olderbut their fight against masterpiece cake shop is still the same.this week... their case will be heard before the united states supreme court... the big question will the 9 justices over turn colorado's supreme court... which said they should have received a cake. the aclu, who represents the couple hopes so.unidentified speaker: "when a business opens its doors to the public, it must serve the public. it can't discriminate against certain members of the public and that's what happened in this case."for religious leaders in colorado, the case which will be heard on tuesday, is of equal importance jack philips: "i'm a follower of jesus christ."since 2012 baker jack philips has said says he just wanted to live out his faith.jeff hunt: "jack's case is important for everybody."jeff hunt, director of the conservative think tank the centennial institute says how christians live out their faith is at stakejeff hunt / the centennial institute: "business owners have the freedom of consensus to b

couple charlie craig and david mullins pursue discrimination charges. they won before civil rights commission and lower courts, and mr. phillips appealed and the supreme court agreed to the case. that case will come before the court this morning at ten eastern when they ulcer from attorneys and others at the oral argument will be on c-span on friday at eight eastern. as the attorneys at all of those involved in the case are preparing to enter the court, we're watching the scene outside of the court. again, people have been lined up since yesterday to get an opportunity to sit in on the oral argument. we watched the scene outside the court until ten when the case gets underway. [background sounds]