, those who are agnostic of muslim heritage or even atheist or muslim heritage who have been victims of fundamentalism and chosen very bravely to challenge fundamentalist movements. that is the project of my book and with the remainder of my time my want to introduce you to a view of these people and it is difficult to pick favorite stories because they have all become very dear to my heart. let me start with a story from the first chapter which is called creativity versus the dark corner and this is a chapter about artists, visual artists, performing artists who i've met in places like pakistan and algeria, people who are refugees from somalia and it is no accident i think that virtually every context i visited or studied, artists were on the front lines challenging extremism either through simply continuing to perform their art or to its very content. one of the people i've met early in the research was someone who was the artistic director of the workshop in pakistan, since 1992 he and his family and production company that they ran which was named after the playwright's fa

of the problem we have. if it was hostile or hostile muslim youth the different put me out of which which one is an islamist ideology but at the same time as having an islamist ideology we have a very hostile attitude by general muslim youth against no muslims that is breeding the hostilities we have to get to the bottom a lot of what why we have that in our country and and it's causing big problems up and down the country in many communities which is why this is resentment going on. but of course i have been for in boy people from the genuine far right what would you know what we're doing in this country is anyone who's created critical of islam we're calling far right which is dangerous which we should be doing because they're genuine fears and concerns there is a legitimate far right they represent five percent the for this country but the ninety five percent for to this country is from islamist terrorists or divergent now the genuine far right are outraged with me because they were outraged at me for last four and a half years they've been on the fringes of the english to for potentially trying to hijack

you can see this as a furthering of pressure on the muslim brotherhood. government here - the courts called for the assets of muslim brotherhood to be seized. this is part of what could be seen as ratcheting up the pressure on muslim brotherhood prior to the trial of the ousted former president. >> most of the leadership is behind bars. is there a sense in egypt that the muslim brotherhood is a spent force? >> i don't think you could necessarily say that. certainly the representation of the muslim brotherhood on the streets is down compared to what it was months ago, years ago. they are still a presence on the streets. the anti-coup alliance makes its position known. hundreds of people, thousands of people take to the streets. we see people, students leaving campuses and going out and ticking the streets and protesting. you can say that there's certainly an element of muslim brotherhood presence on the street, but it's not nearly as strong as it was months ago. >> thank you very much. al jazeera's dominique cain on the phone from cairo. >> syria's deputy s

so before it to your view of the stories muslim fundamentalism is a controversial term. and give the definition of that writes about the fundamentalism's not just islam but others as a political movement of the extreme right of the context of globalization to manipulate religion to achieve their political aim. >> as the radical politicalization of ideology. not a spiritual or religious one. calling some fundamentalism somewhere they also have their own diverse cities as they could have certain shared characteristics. with the imposition this sense that i called the muslim law are unitary monolithic imposed almost a rare. and what they would dispute entirely by their definition and by that you did terry version of what they advocate. a and we find that manifestly in political parties by in response to these movements of the contemporary period they seem to offer only two choices the open discriminatory flawed characters -- characterization the it is inherently fundamentalist and that is clearly not only offensive but just plain wrong and unfortunately on the left as ball s

out of the labor party for its extremist ties and links his spiritual leader describes all non muslims of. all these problems so he's an extremist with all these links to i feel all these organizations who wish to get a caliphate state and in the introduction of shariah law in britain he's the mayor in charge of a billion pound budget because he has been elected to that position and then since he got into his position he started site in the fund in a way for many moderate islamic organizations any real moderates which are in uproar and if they're not they're upset by what's going on there but the money taxpayers' money has been sort of the way to islamist groups to madrassas this is and that needs to be seen as a blueprint for towns and cities across this country and europe so when we look towards going on. if you look at his but here in this country who are political organization they have a conference in two thousand and seven ten thousand people at their conference the population of just three percent of the country now the labor party can even get ten thousand people so when it comes

of them in peace and. he says within twenty years every m.p. in this country will be muslim and in between saying each thing he says inshallah which is our will in so it certainly is a. parliament government and then he said. prime minister of this country would share our faith now that's what he's saying is no we're saying that's what they're saying now should we be fearful that well we don't vote based on religion we keep religion and politics need to be completely separate but with the islamic community that's not what's happening so what we will see is people vote in purely because he's a muslim and that's what charlene malik is telling us so we can look to any country in europe and we find muslim leaders and community leaders saying these sort of things and if if muslim leaders spend they spend ninety five percent of time attacking people who are criticizing islam whereas if they spent ninety five percent of their time attacking the problems within the ideology within their communities the big no need for people like ourselves organizations are formed because we can sol

and this is again in a prescribed month, which is the twelfth month of the muslim calendar. and there are ten days of that month one has to go and- again, this is obligatory upon those who can bear both the traveling physically as well as financially; in other words, they are not burdened upon anybody else. so if somebody is in debt, he cannot do it until he has paid all his debts. so if somebody is financially and physically capable to do this journey, he is required at least once in a lifetime. so these would be the pillars of islam. so these make the person to enter into a community and demonstrate that he believes in god and that he believes in the message of the qur'an and mohammed. >> well, thanks to your generosity, we were allowed to attend the i guess noon prayer service. we saw a wide variety of symbolic activity, both in terms of gestures and- particularly in terms of gestures- and from an outsider's point of view, one would say that the very heart of islam is submission to god. >> exactly. >> when we saw the service, we had the whole- and the entire group facing t

and tension in moscow as thousands of muslims mark one of his longs made whole we days and the shadow of sunday's violent as they can rest in the capital. you're watching are you going to live from moscow i'm marina joshie welcome to the program of foreign governments and businesses affected by the n.s.a. surveillance there are words snowden reveal are taking decisive steps to prevent future spawning brazil is creating an encrypted e-mail service to shield official communications from u.s. snooping and germany's biggest telecoms firm is planning to switch to exclusively domestic connections to protect their users private data details from our correspondent in berlin peter all over. here inside one of the main offices of germany's largest telecommunications operates and they are coming up with a plan that they hope will protect their customers information from the prying eyes of security services telecom has announced that they will only be using german servers for all communications inside germany in the future this is something they have said perhaps they would like to roll out to ac

and tension in moscow as thousands of muslims appear to mark one of islams main holy days but in the shadow of sunday's bomb and a gun quest in the capital. a i. get live from moscow this is r t you with me tongue would say let's take a look at the top story this hour. the united states is only two days away from financial collapse unless the lawmakers can strike a budget deal to avoid default rival democrats and rep it republicans have been stuck in a loop for over two weeks now with those government were crippled and the sun are course on the deadlock that could spark a domino effect around the world. this self-inflicted shutdown is causing panic around the world as washington scrambles to avoid default the global economy is at risk of being thrust back into recession while at home millions will have to cut their losses either way deal or no deal businesses that were unable to work at full capacity for public sector contracts which will see delays in payment and unemployment which is already on the rise due to the shutdown but possibly the most ironic thing about this government sh

military government. >> a lot of pressure on the muslim brotherhood. lot of his leaders arrested behind bars. where does this leave them as a political movement in egypt? >> the vast majority of their leaders are in prison or outside the country. it doesn't mean that their presence in egyptian society has gone away. the anti-coup alliance supporters that come to the streets are youthful representation, perhaps, of the movement behind the muslim brotherhood. it's worth making the point that a few hundred, perhaps a few thousand people on the streets of egypt in a country that is 80 million gives you a sense of their level of support. it doesn't mean we can consider the muslim brotherhood to be a spent force. it's the case that they are either biding their time in gaol or biding their time outside the country. they are certainly not gone. >> thank you. that's al jazeera's dominique kane on the line from cairo. >> syrian state media say the deputy prime minister has been sacked. qadri jamil has been accused of leaving the country without permission, and is

of sectarian violence in burma. among the dead are a 94-year-old woman. buddhists and muslimsave been involved in sporadic clashes since last year. the latest violence came as president visited the affected areas. rage knew the most popular beach resort in myanmar and this is what is left of at least three muslim neighborhoods. the army is here now enforcing curfew. but where were they when buddhist mobs were running wild a few days ago? ofund a thousand people roche to us, recalls this muslim man. the police did nothing to protect us. they did not shoot at the mob. the crowds destroyed everything in their paths, even livestock. hundreds of muslims are still thought to be hiding in the bush. i am too afraid to go home, said this woman. they killed people. i think five or six people. the attacks coincided with a visit i the -- visited by the president in the scene of the worst sectarian violence last year. this was the first time he had a chance to meet some of the tens of thousands of muslims displaced by the attacks. he had the two -- he had little to offer them though, excep

of sectarian violence in burma. among the dead are a 94-year-old woman. buddhists and muslimsave been involved in sporadic clashes since last year. the latest violence came as president visited the affected areas. rage knew the most popular beach resort in myanmar and this is what is left of at least three muslim neighborhoods. the army is here now enforcing curfew. but where were they when buddhist mobs were running wild a few days ago? ofund a thousand people roche to us, recalls this muslim man. the police did nothing to protect us. they did not shoot at the mob. the crowds destroyed everything in their paths, even livestock. hundreds of muslims are still thought to be hiding in the bush. i am too afraid to go home, said this woman. they killed people. i think five or six people. the attacks coincided with a visit i the -- visited by the president in the scene of the worst sectarian violence last year. this was the first time he had a chance to meet some of the tens of thousands of muslims displaced by the attacks. he had the two -- he had little to offer them though, excep

and tension in moscow as thousands of muslims mark one of islams main only days in the shadow of sunday's violent africa i'm dressed in the capital. good morning to you we're live from our moscow you're watching our t.v. you with me tom on with say it's good to have you with us to our top story this hour. foreign governments and businesses affected by the n.s.a. surveillance that edward snowden revealed are taking decisive steps to prevent future spying brazil is creating an encrypted e-mail service to shield official communications from u.s. snooping and germany's biggest hole comes from is a planning to switch to exclusively domestic connections to protect their users private data the details from our correspondent in brooklyn peter oliver. they are inside one of the main offices of germany's largest telecommunications operates and they are coming up with a plan that they hope will protect their customers information from the prying eyes of security services telecom has announced that they will only be using german service for all communications inside germany in the future this is some

assenting of moscow's main mosque right behind me thousands of muslims began the celebration of this holiday with a prayer here called bombaiyer on literally means the feast of the sec refused it commemorates abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son ishmael to show his face to all on this day muslims kill a sheep or go to and give the means to the poor and shared among family and neighbors as you can imagine many did not like the sight of animals being killed in their backyard so moscow's already have designated special locations farms where muslims could practice the ritual of a second feis russia is home to around twenty million muslims so a huge muslim community here the celebrations comes days after the riots in moscow's booted over district hundreds of people there took to the streets to express their outrage over the killing of a young man people should not have as well as to express their attitude towards migrants in general because they haven't had a local shopping center and the editor's storage facility police have identified the suspect ingeborg's in her diary it's a thi

there have been a series of attacks on muslims celebrating the holiday. etting reports of a bomb insides a mosque in a neighborhood. that's south of the capital of damascus. and a bomb blast at a sunni mosque in the northern city has killed 12 people. the bomb exploded a midst a crowd of worshipers as they left a mosque of after morning prayers. >>> in after began stan a pro provincial governor was killed in a bomb attack during the prayers too, it happened in the eastern province. authorities say explosives were planted inside the mosque where the governor was praying at least 20 others were killed. for more this, jane ferguson is in kabul. jane, tell us what happened. >> well, as you said, steven the governor was attending morning prayers here, it's the first day of the muslim holiday in afghanistan when there was an explosion enough mosque an improvised explosive devise it's thought to have been planted he was killed and the casual any rate is 20 injured. no one else killed beyond the governor at this point. several of those people reported as injured a

general assembly to draft an inquiry to find out what is happening in our state and other parts of burma where muslimsacing attack. where um commission of inquiry to find out the true fact what is [ inaudible ] it can bring those who -- those responsible to justice and stop further attacks against muslims of burma. and also [ inaudible ] party and east [ inaudible ] should not be allowed to participate in international funds. those as long as they are involved -- as long as they are involved organizing and protecting against muslims. >> okay. we're going to have to leave it there, just for time sake. but the president of the burmese organization in the uk. thank you so much for your time. >>> the champions league continues on wednesday. robin has got all of the details shortly. ♪ what happens when social media uncovers unheard, fascinating ♪ >>> welcome back. now the world's biggest architecture awards are taking place in singapore this week with buildings from around the world competing in 29 different categories. among those short listed at the world architecture festival is the water moon monastery

nearly 90% of indonesians are muslims, and 60% of malaysians. this hotel just outside tokyo offers services for muslims. this is their special guest room. the twin bed unit includes prayer mats. when guests open a drawer, they see an arrow pointing in the direction they should pray toward mecca. the hotel also provides a prayer timetable. it has 50 rooms like this catering to muslims. smaller cities in japan are also welcoming visitors. a seminar on hosting muslim tourists attracted restaurants and hotel managers. many of the 120 participants had no experience with muslim guests. the director of tourism and exchange at the asean center in japan attended the seminar. he spoke about the history of islam, its culture, and lifestyles. >> translator: for how long do muslims pray each time? >> translator: i hope there are many different sects in the islamic religion. do we need to accommodate them in different ways? >> reporter: the asean center in japan will offer the seminar in more than 20 locations across the country this year. it usually attracts

muslims. his ideas resonated with hard line buddhists. a group of muslim men and a buddhist woman in may in the western state. this ipsident triggered riots and clashes between buddhists and muslims. over 100 people were killed. sectarian conflicts have been flaring up ever since. for decades, coexistence has been a part of daily life for the religions of myanmar. about 90% of the country's people are buddhist. for years, they live peacefully with christians, muslims and people of other faith. over the past year the tolerance is eroding. we found posters that advertise the anti-muslim movement. they called for buddhists to avoid doing business with muslims. some shops are selling t-shirts with that message. >> translator: i want to help make these t-shirts to support my religion. i have seen many buddhists wearing them. >> thank you. >> aspect muslim act vivs are taking a high tech approach too and using social media to spread the word. facebook pages are drawing some vitriolic comments. he doesn't like what he sees. he is the founder working to spr

millions of muslims are gathering for the annual pilgrimage known as hajj. four of those seven aid workers kidnapped in syria are now freed 24 hours after their othe ordeal began. they are abducted after delivering medical supplies. >>> battle over the budget. still no end in sight as the government shutdown is now entering it's third week. >>> the statue of liberty is open to visitors. the state will pay the federal government $61,000 a day to keep lady liberty up and running. governor cuomo saying the money new york spends pales in comparison to how much she was losing when she was closed. >>> a number of national parks and monuments have reopened because states decided to foot the bill. mount rushmore is open, south dakota will pay to keep it up and rounding. grand canyon is also up and running all said about a dodds national parks will open thanks to temporary funding from individual states. >>> an american lawyer in afghanistan has helped a teenage afghan girl win justice. a case involved sending her torturers back to jail. it's a landmark legal case wit

of four men. mom-basa when it was ambushed last thursday night. some muslim community leaders and human rights activists saying this is the latest in a string of extra-jucial cilings bjudicialkillings by the police. >>> least of all actually doing a forensic examination of the vehicle. >> but mombasa's police chief initially suggested his men were examining the car. >> it is in mombasa. >> in your custody? >> yes. >> i'm afraid that isn't correct. i've just seen the car. why aren't you examining it? >> it was brought by a breakdown so we did our initial investigation. >> after friday's riots in which four people died, the police are on high alert. two somalis were arrested on sunday though not connected to the westgate mall attack. there's fear by this man who said he was arrested, beaten and forced to become an informer. >> what can i do to protect myself but my life is in danger. >> one human rierts group has a dossier of over 20 people who could be targeted by undercover police. interthis is what we've been telling the government that when such acts are se

and widening crime down each of the muslim brotherhood as a. government. being sued kind of pushing the country only deeply into political deadlock. this point being an expensive car saloon. like new clueless a new fashion show. also designed. in the best shop windows. luxury is the school. this is the last kong. concert. on archie. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. giant corporations rule the day. this is aussie welcome back russian investigators have started to file formal charges against a group of greenpeace activists currently being held for attempting to storm an oil rig in the oxic so fond final the processes have been charged with piracy. the details. well the investigative committee began filing official charges against being peace activist and they are being accused of piracy guilty then they could face up to fifteen years behind bars see that their actions didn't only threaten the lives of the oil rigs workers but the environment as well greenpeace denies a

brotherhood. >> about two years ago the muslim brotherhood had a thousand of people come to east lawn for a prayer session. >> the muslim brotherhood had -- >> they a huge gathering. they had prayer on the east lawn of the white house. it was in the news. there are so many people within his administration that are part of it. they're admitted members of the muslim brotherhood. >> reporter: who, who exactly? >> i don't know their names. they're not english. >> giant muslim prayer meetings on the east lawn of the white house? there is no east lawn of the white house. and the theory that the muslim brotherhood has infiltrated the obama administration? it seems like a joke, but it can be traced back to the talkers. and even members of congress. >> you will see that he is so deeply in bed with the muslim brotherhood. >> anytime in any nation that they could choose the side of the muslim brotherhood, they've chosen the side of the muslim brotherhood. >> this administration has so many muslim brotherhood members that have influence that they just are making wrong dec

since the trend to wine and as a result ucb increase of the russian muslim minority increase of the radicals. what i mean by this? we know that our general view of the rise of radical islam in russia begins and ends with discussion of chechnya. they have a grinding and bloody war of attrition against islamic radicals going on two decades the russian government says they had succeeded than the trend line shows the war is far from being over but increasingly that problem migrates from the periphery into the heartland for quick couple of years ago i was in the republic capital city there is a busy through st. and literally you can stand there in the middle of the street and you can see the islamic university the state approved and state-funded and lionize institution of religious studies there is a big show going out there in 2008 to roof praise the facility and for teaching nation compliance is the moderate strain of islam that is subservient to living in harmony with the russian state as a whole. if you literally turn around something called the moscow largest radical

for habib this is a new start he hopes to visit more muslim countries and discover the true meanings of islam. >> joining us now is hussein rashid. >> we are talking about momentous occasions in a muslim's life. this is where adam built when he was compiled from eden, this is where mohamed made sacred. this calls out to every muslim in his heart. >> what does hajj entail? >> only muslims can go there, today is a day of solid prayer. tomorrow will be a day of recreating abraham'sing sacrifice. you are part abram, part ishmael. >> a lot of muslims remember the seem from malcolm x, spiek lee. >> they had to have people convert in order to film this there. the same where who have to bring in chinese workers to convert as well. >> as far as dates for hajj do they change every year or is it a specific time? >> the muslim calendar is a lunar calendar, if hajj today falls on october 14th next year it will probably fall around october 3rd. >> and fascinating this year some changes. there were concerns about the crowd and crowd control and also concerns about the construction that is taken in and

related to the muslim brotherhood this is a week of course so that as a collective punishment restriction. muslim brotherhood or anything but supporters of the interim government say there is documented evidence the brotherhood uses violence so silencing its membership they say is necessary to ensure stability and the transition to democracy to hang with them and was free in the thirtieth of june revolution which was the second wave of the twenty fifth of january revolution muslim brotherhood killed a lot of egyptians they had no problems killing innocent people they proved they were to push egypt into civil war morsi supporters maintain they are being prevented from peacefully protesting the brotherhood's newspaper was also shut down its website announced this week they had to move operations to london due to the escalating crackdown. rather than stifling the meat meant. to be say it makes them more determined than ever to tension. a big crisis. start with brazil or a peaceful future protest that bob and the police used tear gas and stun grenades to disperse the crowds in rio de janeiro

but there has been limited access to the site, where the world's largest gathering of muslims takes place each year. >> the sea of pilgrims, arms outstretched to the sky. they are headed to mecca. outside the grand mosque, one of the most sacred rights of islam. they continued to pray, but not everyone who wants to make the trip is able to do so. each country is limited to -- limited to 1000 pilgrims per million inhabitants. >> i am very happy to be where prophet mohammed had his journey. >> there are fewer pilgrims than usual this year. authorities have reduced the quotas. in 2012 3 million poured into the holy city, but this year just over 2 million. local jewelers usually -- usually enjoy a booming trade. >> sales were much better last year. this year we are much lower. as you know, there are fewer pilgrims. it has had a huge impact on business year. >> to enforce the new rules saudi arabia is not taking any chances. roadblocks have been installed at the entrance, checking each of their rights to be there. police officers have been deployed to prevent illegal entry. >> we have security

the number of european muslims joining the ranks of islamist militants in syria is growing every month norway has launched a hunt for two teenage sisters who have allegedly gone to the war torn country to find the regime alongside a rebel forces are she is a piece on of the looks now and the dangerous trend which is spurring fears such people would return to their own countries and well trained and ready to carry out terrorist acts there. the two sisters age sixteen and nineteen left a message for their family saying that they were going to syria because they believed that muslims in the country were being attacked from all directions now the family who haven't been named are cooperating with the authorities to try and track these two young women down now they've been it's reported that they are of somali descent that they. came to norway in the year two thousand they weren't particularly religious that impacted over the last few weeks that being arguments between the the older sister and the mother of the family over the the older sisters want to wear the niqab so norwegian authoritie

of muhammad. some even know he was the first muslim and the founder of islam, a prophet. thats about it. was this man? author lesley hazletons brand new book, the first muslim: the story of muhammad takes on that question and here she is. lesley hazleton, thank you for being with us. lesley hazleton: thank you for having me. terry: and thank you for bringing this with you. lesley: isnt it gorgeous. i love this cover. terry: i do too. lesley: im just amazed by it. terry: i should put it up here so even the light catches it. its great. you know usually, ive told you this before, usually i ask the author to go through a bit of a capsule of his or her book, but this is pretty obvious. this is a biography. this is muhammad and his story from literally start to finish. lesley: exactly. its his whole story. i mean some biographies for some reason start at age forty when he had the first revelations of the quran up on the mountain outside mecca, but they dont answer the question of wait a minute who was this man? what was he doing up? how did he get here? what happened in those first forty years?

kind of widening crackdown on egypt's muslim brotherhood as islamists accuse the government of being too harsh and a pushing the country only deeper into political deadlock. is the united states an exceptional country the indispensable nation proponents of this idea claim the us is a force for good in the world and has the right even an obligation to act unilaterally when necessary critics charge american exceptionalism is dangerous to the us and the world as well as a cover for global domination and empire. choose your language. week over the internet or. some other. choose the music consensus you. choose to give to us that you think great to. choose the stories that in time life choose me access to often. not far off from people of ellen crosstalk for the meantime next on here in r.t. an advance team of u.n. inspectors have kicked off their mission in syria writing in damascus to oversee the elimination of the country's chemical stockpiles though the experts have a very tough task ahead to try and find and destroy about a thousand tons of toxic arms in a country that still at war t

the evening prayer one of the five daily spiritual rituals for muslims worldwide some prefer to do it at home others it is at a mosque. this one looks more or less ordinary from. which makes it stand out from the rest in other parts of the globe this is a literally another ground mosque set up inside the garage of an apartment building things and every day muslims from nearby neighborhoods come here to pray while in total there are around one hundred twenty of similar unofficial mosques all across the city it's hard to tell the difference between an official an illegal but the maisha facilities are the local muslim communities only choice there is simply no official mosque in athens we're talking about thousands of people that hold the great passport. to this country but know it's the time of their players greece is among the main points of entry for migrants to the e.u. and it's estimated around three hundred thousand muslims live in athens alone. so for the first time since gaining independence from the ottoman empire in the eighteenth century greek authorities are planning to build

the goal is to make indonesia the world center of muslim fashion by 2020. nhk world, jakarta. >>> let's take a look at the latest market figures now. >>> a treaty that was created and that created the world's first nuclear weapons free zone in latin america and the caribbean has won this year's future policy award. the four four-year-old award recognizes policies that contributed to sustainable and peaceful societies and this year's theme was disarmament. the world future council and the eninterparliamentary union announced it on wednesday. the treaty was local prohibits the testing, use and production of nuclear weapons in latin america and the caribbean. the treaty was signed in 1967 by 14 countries in the wake of the cuban missile crisis. it was the first treaty seeking to created a nuclear weapons' free zone. 33 nations from the region including cuba, hat ratified the treaty by 2002. >> today, latin america is one of the most secure regions in the world from nuclear conflict. therefore, it's also most able to deploy its economic capacity and resources f

muslims. every country has its geostrategic foreign policy. let's look at -- you talk about killing of. actually, more muslims have died in pakistan from talibanÑi and ó qaeda strikes than they have from u.s. drone strikes despite the fact i opposeçó the strikes, let's look at who the real victims are and who the perpetrators are. so we're trying to complete this picture here bufó none of that - in fact, all of that will fallñr on deaf ears unless there's a social machinery to send out messages across the middle east. >> rose: what if somebody says look, you have have a good point but this is a war within islam. >> it's not our business. my question is why are we fighting on two different battlefields? maajid, if you go looking for him, you'd find him on "60 minutes". you're going to reach 20 million people there. that's a bigÑi impact. you'll find him on charlie rose, a bigñr audienceñr you'll find m on cbs news. but you'll find a ted talk but you don't really findÑi 80 maajd nawaz videos on youtube the way you find anwar al-awlaki. >> i don't understand why not. you can make a speech