and also the co-host of the podcast "good muslim/bad muslim."tell me what was going through your mind when you decided to text me. it felt like a signal flare. >> i am so devastated. and when i texted you, i was worried. >> yeah. about what specifically? >> about my family. >> yeah. ♪ what's going through your mind? >> i see so much misinformation. >> really? >> like, there's this rhetoric of a standard of muslimness and that's dangerous. and it's also not true. i feel like it needs to be said, there are 1.7 billion muslims in the world, and growing, and 72 sects of islam. >> wow. yeah. it's -- >> 72. >> i thought there was two. i thought there was sunni and shia, no, and black muslim -- >> 72. >> yep. despite what the two bills would have you believe, islam is not just one thing. most muslims fall into the schools of sunni and shia. and a lot more are wishing to -- i wish i could pronounce. not to mention the fact sunnis and shias branch off and each have their own interpretations of the koran. it's pretty complicated. if only i could think of

we want more stories about the muslim doctor and the muslim teacher and the muslim engineer and the muslim policy analyst. an other words, these are americans who happen to be muslim. we need your stories like that out there. -- i haveere we have criticism for our friends, not just political opponents. our friends in media and in policy or not allowing the muslim voices to be heard or seen. when you turn on the tv and they talk about anything related to muslims, rarely defined muslim in the conversation. it is people talking about muslims, not talking to muslims and i think that is another part of the culture problem that we need to overcome an hour society. christ with time now to open it up for question -- >> we have time now to open it up for questions from the audience. thanks to those are listening live on c-span2 and c-span radio app. if you have questions, please feel free to tweak them. .- tweet them are there any questions from the audience? question: i know you are from los angeles, which was one of the pilot cities of the obama administration program. said these changes that you

we want more stories about the muslim doctor and the muslim teacher and the muslim engineer and the muslim policy analyst, in other words, these are americans who happen to be muslims. we need more stories like that out there and this is where i have criticism for our friends, not just our political opponents, our friends in the media and in policy are not allowing this muslim voice to be heard or to be seen. when you turn on the tv, and they talk about anything related to islam and muslims, rarely do you find a muslim in the conversation. it's people talking about muslims, not talking to them. and i think that's another part of a cultural problem that we need to overcome in our society. >> so, we have time now to open it up for questions from the audience. and thank you again to those who are watching live on c-span2 and listening on c-span radio. if you have questions, tweet them. and so, are there any questions from the audience? >> from los angeles, one of the pilot cities right for the obama administration's cve program. since these changes that you've talked about you're expecting mo

because he was muslim, right? but because he was christian, legitimate claim, so this is the irony that we're acing, and this is also the irony coming before the supreme court with the masterpiece case. know, this is the question of can a baker, or case, a florist, or an or a stationery shop participate in the same sex couple's wedding by selling them a cake or having stationery or having their wedding be on their community farm or something. in these cases, they of a verylose because simple legal trend, and it has with race. in the 1970s, bob jones to admit black students. n 1987, they came before the u.s. supreme court and they said, we have a religious enter racial dating allowrriage and we're not any of our students have the married housing if they are in and terracial relationship therefore, because of our religious beliefs we don't elieve we should uphold public accommodation laws, or nondiscrimination laws in higher education. the u.s. supreme court said no. interest compelling to eradicate racial education

turned into a muslim you may have muslim great grandchildren what about their freedom of practicing their religion it's a choice right. yes i believe and this is why i believe it's not incompatible with our constitution which as you write for the internet as the freedom of religion i believe that islam is not so much a religion but more an ideology an ideology that wants to talk to you terry an ideology that wants to dominate not only your whole person's life but also a whole society and one of the examples i always giffen i explain people why it's small ideology than a religion is that if you were willing to leave islam the battle of the is dead you are not free as in for instance christianity or judaism a body ism to leave and this is a token of an ideology of an even though the theory an ideology so i believe that we should have no freedom we have freedom of religion even in the constitution but if we see islam not so much as a religion but as a daughter to terror an ideology that once again does not want to assimilate into society but wants to dominate it goes against the freedo

the a poster is a muslim. even a christian institution like the red monastery sees to it that it employs muslims. any minority demanding acceptance should not practice discrimination themselves. on the way we're all treated the same here we're like brothers there's no marginalization of the whole. people. although it seems to contradict their withdrawn and traditional lifestyle the monks at the red monastery are in step with the times. they're even raising ostriches which is a bit of a new trend in egypt. ostrich meat is in demand here because it's low in cholesterol. i don't know. what you are. on the. record i think. the red monastery is relatively large it's a mid sized business with olive groves vegetable gardens livestock and a joinery. but above all the red monastery is one of the most important religious centers in southern egypt. behind this store is a genuine treasure. it's the part of a church that dates back to the sixth century and one of the oldest remnants of coptic culture. it's also a masterwor

it is not a muslim band. you must know there's more muslim majority countries out there [inaudible] the ban than on the band. specifically jordan and saudi arabia, this is not about religion, it's about protecting our homeland from terrorism. don't be fooled, it's a travel ban and vetting process to keep america safe. it's not about religion it's about homeland security. i want to thank president trump for contii >> live from center city in philadelphia this is fox 29 news at 11:00. >>> kicked, punched and hit with stick. a domino's delivery driver attacked. her car windows shattered and it was all over a ten-dollar pizza. thank you for joining us tonig tonight. i'm lucy noland. dave schratweiser is live at police headquarters with the story you'll see only on fox 29, dave. >> reporter: lucy, police say it was the dispute over that ten-dollar pizza that had three women brutal al tack a female domino's driver. then follow her back to work and blow out all the windows in her car. tonight two suspects are under

muslims. that's downright wrong. the fact is that the cuffs were there already. i. i protested irish before the shadow the christianity came into being after the resurrection of our lord jesus christ so after he ascended into heaven and a faith has been passed on from generation to generation and since the first century after christ until today according to the current pope college ross the second is the one hundred nineteen pope since the founder of the coptic church sent mark was one of jesus' his disciples said to. him and it wasn't until six centuries later that islam conquered egypt and then began to push back christianity. the color of the brick walls of the red monastery is also the origin of its name it's located near so hard. the copts support a strong national state because there have been waves of violent persecution in the past above all in rural areas with low levels of education. the extremists want to take copts lives and their wealth it was particularly bad when the muslim brot

side this holy to jews to christians and of course to muslims the majority muslim population here in eastern in east jerusalem occupied east jerusalem and we saw the significance of that just a few months ago during the protests when there was this mass street movement to get israel to remove metal detectors and put around the entrances to the mosque compound what jews refer to as the temple mount and it was a successful one so the question is. live now to. the turkish president tired adeline popular. in the region. as an important one. any steps to. change the current status of jerusalem would. cause. disruptions clashes. and. damage. and the reach of. any approach to jerusalem that denies the historic reality. of who should be but who would be bound to be termed. the only way in the middle east. peace stability is. to ensure that. becomes the capital of an independent palestinian state. we have discussed their brother and myself have held discussions about this a short time ago and we are going to. the organization of islamic cooperation in istanbul on the thirteenth of december ou

muslim countries and added non-muslim countries in the single majority muslim country. >> you have northkorea and venezuela but it doesn't apply to anybody. that is kind of like window dressing. >> your honor the president of stated he want to be tougher and nobody can reasonably construe that to be tougher with respect to muslims that the proclamation simply is not tougher with respect to muslims. >> to the other category of the statements from november 29 and you do agree we take judiciary notice of those, right? >> judicial notice? >> don't think it's legally relevant. >> did you say you are conceding with traditional notice? >> the fact that the statements were made. they want to use the content. the content of those statements which would never be admissible in trial. they are not official documents. they have speculation and opinion hearsay, triple hearsay and you are conceding that we can take judicial notice of that? >> your honor i thought judge harrison maybe a misunderstood was referencing the president's tweet's. >> it's the department's position that the president's twitter

i think the muslim people, those born in an muslim people, those born in an muslim countries who do not, who do not have the simple rights that people enjoy here in the west, those people actually live injailand in the west, those people actually live in jail and they in the west, those people actually live injail and they do not in the west, those people actually live in jail and they do not have a choice but struggling against this ideology and i do not understand this leftist europe, born with all these rights, he thinks we have this kind of complacency towards what they think art muslins and who think we are people condemned to be ruled by our traditions. in the muslim world you have people who deserve the same universal rights as you and this is my struggle. if i live in a moving jail, i consider that inside my head a much more free than those who threaten me. zineb el rhazoui, thank you for being on hardtalk. you're welcome. thank you very much indeed. hi there. the cold weather that we had during the first half of december is a long way behind us, and, really, for the run—up to c

to india now where the lower house of parliament has passed a bill proposing jail time for muslim men who are trying to divorce their wives through a practice known as instant divorce the bill outlaws the practice of ending a marriage by say or writing the word arabic for divorce three times in succession india supreme court ruled in august that instant divorce is unconstitutional more than twenty muslim countries have already banned the practice. ashish malhotra is in delhi for us ashish can you first tell us more about the idea of instant of war and how it works in india well instant divorce or instant triple the law is a practice whereby a man can divorce his wife just by uttering the word lock which means divorce three times in one moment this is different from another form of the lock which is spread out over a longer period of time usually about ninety days which allows for some reconciliation between the couple instant triple to lock obviously leaves no room for reconciliation and it's a practice that already been outlawed in many muslim majority countries but in india it's con

turn into a muslim you may have muslim great grandchildren what about their freedom of practicing their religion it's a choice right well you know. yes but i believe and this is why i believe it's not incompatible with our constitution which as you write for the internet as the freedom of religion i believe that islam is not so much a religion but more an ideology an ideology that wants to talk to you terry an ideology that wants to dominate not only your whole person's life but also a whole society and one of the examples i always give for and i explain people why it's more like ideology than a religion is that if you were willing to leave islam the battle of the is dead you are not free as in for instance christianity or judaism of buddhism to leave and this is a token of an ideology of and even those of the theory and ideology so i believe that we should have no freedom of we have freedom of elation even in the constitution but if we see islam not so much as a religion but as a door that it errored ideology that once again does not want to assimilate into society but wants to dominat

coptic christians make up about ten percent of the population in egypt where the majority is muslim. they've often complained of discrimination and accused the authorities of failing to protect them. over the past years they've repeatedly come under attack by radical islamist just last week hundreds of muslim demonstrators stormed a church and wounded three people friday as attack came ahead of christmas for the copes the celebrated on generate a seventh. on the line now from cairo is our correspondent there karim algo hari we've been getting conflicting reports karim on how many gunmen were involved in this attack and whether they have survived what do you know. well there where that kosik to report if it's one or two attack us but here it is there are talks and it's pavement up on one attacker who was shot and arrested and identified by name and call to one of the most dangerous terrorists in the area without identifying too which group even of now there's been several attacks on the country's large christian minority in recent years what accounts for this. first year as always att

from muslim countries. that doesn't make any sense you think it's a muslim ban but it makes perfect sense under the rational the proclamation is actually given which is that there are problems with the information sharing from these countries and in order to both deal with the risk of that but also just as importantly to encourage these countries to improve their practices, the president adopted tailored restrictions that differed based on countries, based on their recalcitrants and their willing ness to cooperate. it makes perfect sense under the rational given. it makes no sense under the argument. >> i just want to make sure that we're clear when you responded to judge king that the president would have to be flat-out lying. i think the position is the president is not lying about what he said. he said what he said. we don't think -- at least from my perspective, i don't think he's lying at all. if anything he's the one individual whose saying exactly what he means. notwithstanding judge shedd's characte

for muslim countries, they added non-muslim countries in a single majority muslim country that's only 52%. >> you added north korea and venezuela, but it doesn't apply hard to anybody. the other side, that's kind of like window dressing. >> again, your honor, the point-- so-called non-muslim countries. >> the president's statements were they he wanted it be tougher and no one can reasonably construe that to be tougher with respect to muslims because the proclamation is not tougher with respect to muslims. >> the president's statements judge wynn was asking about from november 29th. you degree that we can take judicial notice of those, right? >> judicial notice, we don't think it's legally he will vants. >> are you saying that you're conceding that we can take judicial notice yes, he did. >> whether or not they want to use the content, the plaintiffs want to use the content of those statements, which would never be admissible in trial, they're not official documents, they've got speculation, opinion, hearsay, triple hearsay and you're conceding that we can take judicial notice of that.

"muslim migrant beats up dutch boy on crutches." "muslim destroys a statue of virgin mary." and "islamist mob pushes teenage boy off roof." -- off roof and beats him to death." the clearly inferable intent of the post was to demonstrate the allege prod pencity of muslim immigrants to engage in violent acts. even if the videos show what they purport to show and sharing 43,800,000s with his followers on twitter, donald john trump's dissemination of such material evinces an invidious intent to create division within american society. in all of this, the aforementioned donald john trump, by his statements, unmindful of the high duties of his high office and the dignities and proprieties thereof, and of the harmony, respect, and courtesies within for stability the society of the united states has undermined the integrity of his office and has shown -- and has sown discord among the people of the united states. has brought disrepute, contempt, ridicule, and disgrace on the presidency. has acted in a manner antithetical to the cause of a just society. has betrayed his trust as pres

are saying the muslims are north as usual you bus the muslims but not the christians or the jews and you know it was that it was me who made that decision. and i mean you don't agree with that decision i don't agree with that decision is a scary part of the start of why a lot of muslim years double standard yes no no. listen in fact you don't suppose and you did so populist cartoons mocking christians or jesus but i did that so i mean this was a specific instance incident where the. those cartoons were bad i should have told him so but i agree that it did it created a cause for attacking or. stand despite the fact of the matter is you know the history of the newspaper when it comes to publishing cartoons or to mocking christians if you was a citizen let me put this point is there a chance that having these kind of very public arguments that fleming wanted to start then actually in the long run as he's now suggesting help minorities help muslim communities i think the hope is yes but i think events on the ground on a day to day basis convince us that that's not the case if they view t

these particular muslim countries for mother muslim countries which were considered and not included. so i don't know the logic that follows that says he's not banning them because muslim countries are muslim. as opposed to other criteria. >> we know that because the president says so. i would note that even though he has not banned other muslim countries in section 4c he gives the power ten more countries. >> the purpose of e01 in a zero to us to set up a system to collect data. and he built on prior countries that were suspect. every country was included in prior findings except for iraq. it was a 90 day beta collection time. this is an analysis that distinguishes between countries and applies criteria that are in the national interest. >> your suggestion that he's just using the magic words is very strange. he said if it were for his statements made during the campaign and otherwise it would be fine. >> it would be a different case, your honor. >> how about if another candidate one you wouldn't even be here. >> that's not true. if they made the first. >> i think the point we were m

this was a predominantly muslim town.imes chose not to come back to a place the international community had agreed would part of the bosnian—serb entity, repubblica srpska. there's a feeling of emptiness, of once thriving industries that never recovered. economically depressed, life here is hard. many eke out a living in a way that has changed little over centuries. last year, the town elected a new mayor, who's promised economic development. it's the first time a serb has filled the role since the war. his views on the srebenica massacre have caused alarm amongst bosniaks who've returned. for me, it's not a problem to have a mayor who is a serb. it's not a problem. we are looking for that serb who promotes tolerance. he's a guy who denies our past and denies the genocide. the balkans have always been a powder keg. now the agreements that brought about the end of the war are looking ever more fragile. there's increasing talk of repubblica srpska breaking away from the rest of bosnia, which would leave the entity's bosnian

community and harass muslim men there are also concerns about what it my duty of family is in terms of breaking them up since the supreme court ruling has ruled this this practice not to have any meaning anymore families couples would essentially still be married but men would be in jail and then questions over over how women would be financially supported in these situations so a lot of people worry that this could also be a slippery slope to further sort of infringement as some would see it on religious rights but the government of course has said that that's not happening and this is specifically on the issue of instant triple the law something that they feel needed to be tackled because ok well how have the muslim indian muslim women reacted to this well you know as i said as a whole the community is largely very supportive of this their war particular women's groups that have been advocating for this for years there and they're essentially the reason why this has happened they've been pushing for this for years women who have been victims of this of this practice so they see th

the forests the blood of muslims. is an integral part of our souls as muslims as well as christians. there's a variety of muslims and christians in all courts. right. most holy in islam it is in the hearts of all muslims as it is in the hearts of all christians all right most amazing christians to jerusalem is eternal. at the thought that we should create a well. i don't. i would like it to hang his excellency about on for hosting the summit so i'm on a court of law you about to get. you were listening to king abdullah of jordan at the organization of islamic cooperation this event this emergency meeting happening in istanbul and we've been hearing from various leaders mahmoud abbas i retype or to want king abdullah just said is that the u.s. position to declare a truce on the capital of israel which is the focus of this meeting is a serious and grave position that threatens peace and security he spoke of working with international stakeholders to address the issue and looking for practical solutions and unity in the

law muslim. non arabic. whatever you whatever you want to say it was probably actually the most multicultural like a mad brain. and i asked somebody said what's going on he said i haven't heard you know the gangs are coming down here they apparently want to come and burn the most you know i'm going to let them. then high school teacher jihad jihad learned that two of his brothers are in the crowd outside the mosque i thought my brothers. my brothers are there and before anything else my family's the most important thing to me. and i'm going to go for my brothers i'm going to get from the rear bring them out as i would i need to shoot. god damn it. and they would have been thousands and thousands of people at the. if i were a public about moscow and we have to buy them on a shelf they all have get it that is obviously a stop at the place. at the corner of my on notice freelance photographer and within an instant you could see. members of the credit spotting. and like a muppet just steal towards me. just sprin

nations in istanbul and lashes out at israel and cause jerusalem a red line for muslims we'll talk to our correspondent in istanbul also coming up a stunning victory for the u.s. democrats as their candidate doug jones claims victory in alabama a special election his opponents defeat a major setback for the republican party that could or to the bottoms of power in the senate. and british cycling icon chris froome has failed a duping test recorded during it's been at a race in space and investigation is underway. how do unless i'm. turkish president richard john has called on all countries to recognize jerusalem as the capital of palestine he was speaking as he hosted a summit of the organization of islamic cooperation in istanbul he couldn't leaders to forge a united response to u.s. president donald trump's decision to recognize jerusalem as a captive is red and drawn call that move a red line from muslims. he hopes today's summit will mobilize muslim support for an independent palestinian state here's some of what he had to say. i invite all the countries backing international law a

you the leaders m o v a muslim and real present of the muslim countries and we really appreciate. all the generous tyree it. for the contribution to the arrangement and organization over the proceedings of this summit i would like to solo the doors off our. we have hundreds of moderates and with three thousand. visitors price we bay for our co's and we salute our heroes inside the prisons over these radio could be done for our wanted for our nation. and in the diaspora and i say with full confidence and that. freedom will come for sure and when there is it comes a we shall be happy and joyful with victory of a lion that him alone almost a gracious supine a living. he. in an image you don't. know how to. do you know in. a semi all bossy and finally the state of palestine. it's not a stablish wave it's a capital on the borders of. june of ninety six there shall be peace and there shall not be a region and there shall never be peace in the world and they have to choose. the law. that is the palestinian president mahmoud abbas speaking at the extraordinary meeting of the organization

to end there now where the lower house of parliament has passed a bill proposing jail time for muslim men who tried to divorce their wives through a practice known as instant divorce well the bill outlaws the practice of ending in marriage by saying or writing the word arabic for divorce three times in succession india supreme court ruled in august that instant divorces were unconstitutional within twenty muslim countries around the world have already banned the controversial practice. and. is in delhi for us for more on this story issues good to see you how did this bill come about was it something that muslim women were pushing for. but what we've seen in the last couple of months here has been truly significant in the sense that you know this is a instant triple toe lock is a practice that has been outlawed in many muslim majority countries for quite a while already but in india perhaps because it is not a muslim majority country the situation is a little tricky here you see there were a lot of concerns about potentially upset ing india's secular fabric by by interfering in what co

the forests the blood of muslims. is an integral part of our souls as muslims as well as christians. there's a variety of muslims and christians in all courts. right. most holy in islam it is in the hearts of all muslims as it is in the hearts of

indeed, the muslims, the bosnian government says...n covering the bosnian war for more than a year by the time i met him, living in this shelled, sniped, and besieged city of sarajevo. a year of witnessing the ferocious war machine that the bosnian-serb commander had unleashed, and he did not like my reporting. >> interpreter: what's the lady's name? >> christiane. >> interpreter: like kennedy's christina. [ laughter ] it won't be difficult for her to understand because when i saw her first reports from sarajevo, i was very angry. >> mladic was commanding the bosnian-serb military mission to carve out their own ethnically pure republic and join it into a greater serbia. [ gunshots ] this was a daily occurrence, dodging bullets as we covered the unfolding tragedy. [ gunshots ] for the bosnian muslims, the villain was clear. they're, you know, your own people, and your soldiers. to them, you're a great man. you're a hero. to your enemies, you're somebody to be feared and somebody to be hated. how do you feel about that? >> interpreter: v

i wanted to be able to put out there that muslims and muslim women in particular as well are just as easy as anyone else and. i hope that having achieved that that that message somehow resonate had with the wrong one. three years later make a large joins jamaal jihad south west sydney labor in pay jason clare and the future minister for immigration scott morrison on a journey to the very heart of what it is to be a stray and today. to track. jason was to bring kids muslim kids and scott was to bring life services from the sharia. the goal of the my cheap trick because it has other people from different sides can be meit's everything about my chick everything that walker kind of was about stood for. that sense of sacrifice that sense of belonging. who wanted to take that with her and go through that experience. but once you're in conditions like that you know walking through the mud you know in a rain forest it's quite easy to to look beyond physical appearance a lot of people didn't say me in or as they go that way the scarf and i didn't say that person as just a lifesaver. you could

robert: we, the non-muslims, shall be cruel to them. and through our cruelty, they shall know who we are. they will not defeat us. and they shall fear us. and every night when they close their eyes for sleep, they will be tortured. reporter: doggart was arrested in 2015 and sentenced in april this year to 20 years in jail for plotting an arson attack on the mosque in islamberg. tahirah: he said the sound of the explosion would cause the people to get up and to run out of the building, and then they would meet them with gunfire. reporter: back in hancock, and the neighborhood party. this was the day after hundreds of white nationalists marched in charlottesville, virginia. one person was killed and 19 injured when a car drove into a group of counter-demonstrators. tahirah clark and nancy furdock feel their message has never been more important. tahirah: just think about what happened yesterday in charlottesville. that is not my america. this is my america. learn about their neighbors, learn about people who may be different from them. re