, when i congratulate you, mykola veresny, tv journalist, actor , writer, showman, i don't know you,it's scary to think it's scary to think that we decided to talk about independence and the present and about these 31 years that have passed and p. mykola, well, in fact, as soon as ukrainian television started, so p. mykola was already there and so, for all this time, i have a question that we have always been interested in. tell me, please, would this war happen under any conditions, or could something like this happen in just one year so that all wars would not happen? well, now it is clear that under all conditions, it would this war happened, well, in the 90s, i'll tell you frankly, well, in the 91st, when independence was not elected, but proclaimed, i would say then no one believed in the war, then no one except people who were in prisons, and i was in prisons well, these are people who sat, then somehow got to britain and canada, and then they came back of the united states. and when i talked to them, they said that there was definitely a monument to both of them. such a word m