and the n.s.a., here with a new book, michael hayden is joining us, everybody! ( cheers and applause ) but first, let's get into the news. french president emmanuel macron is doing his world tour. and during a press conference down in australia, things got a little awkward. >> french president emmanuel macron raised a few eyebrows during a press conference in australia by calling prime minister malcolm turnbull's wife, "delicious." >> i wanted to thank you for-- i wanted to thank you and your delicious wife for your warm welcome. >> trevor: whoa! back off, pepe le pew! ( laughter ) that's someone's wife. you know, it would have been cool if the australian prime minister thought it was some sort of custom and rolled with it. if he was like, "thank you, president macron. yeah, your wife is quite shaggable as well. ( laughter ) i totally snack on 'er, yeah." now, apparently, this was caused by a little translation issue, because, apparently, the french word for "delicious" also means "delightful," which is good. yeah. for a minute, though, i was worried. i was worr

the n.s.a. conducts searches of americans, those searches have to be approved on a case-by-case basis with probable cause by the attorney general. the n.s.a. doesn't actually have to go to court which is a concern, but those requirements create meaningful hurdles to abuse. so i thought it was important to ask about the c.i.a. when can the c.i.a. conduct backdoor searches of americans? the response i got from ms. haspel is that the searches are authorized if they're designed to get information related to the c.i.a.'s activities. that means there's no standard at all on backdoor searches of americans. now, i mentioned these two unclassified examples because they show how vague the rules are and how easily the c.i.a. could violate the privacy of americans. that's why it's important to have leaders at the agency who believe in the privacy of the american people and are committed to protecting it, protecting americans, protecting americans even if sometimes a lawyer says that something might be techn

should be number one and we should find out what the hell is going on in its mission statement the n.s.a. upholds a commitment to protecting the privacy rights of american citizens it also highlights the need for accountability when pursuing intelligence gathering the n.s.a.'s recent actions have raised concern among privacy advocates undone believes the spy agency has done little to scale back its spying operations even after being exposed by whistleblower edward snowden what was revealed by edward snowden the mass surveillance that he covered and exposed. my guess is it never stopped happening and that it's continuing to today and i you know most americans who are self-aware should assume that they're being monitored most of the time the u.s. government said or about national security rarely have anything to do with the security of you know ordinary citizens like myself and everything to do with the security of corporations to make a lot of profit. i think you know it begs the question as to whether we're being monitored in order to stifle political dissent and i think. that is what i

should be number one and we should find out what the hell is going on in its mission statement the n.s.a. upholds a commitment to protecting the privacy rights of american citizens it also highlights the need for accountability when pursuing intelligence gathering but the n.s.a.'s recent actions have raised concern among privacy advocates don kovalchuk believes that the spy agency has done little to scale back its spying operations even after being exposed by whistleblower edward snowden what was revealed by edward snowden the mass surveillance that he uncovered and exposed. my guess is it never stopped happening and that it's continuing to today and i you know most americans who are self-aware should assume that they're being monitored most of the time u.s. government center about national security rarely have anything to do with the security of you know ordinary citizens like myself and everything to do with the security of corporations to make a lot of profit. i think you know it begs the question as to whether we're being monitored in order to stifle political dissent and i think. th

should be number one and we should find out what the hell is going on in its mission statement of the n.s.a. upholds a commitment to protecting the privacy rights of american citizens but also highlights the need for accountability when pursuing intelligence gathering but the n.s.a.'s recent actions have raised concern among various privacy advocates and done believes that the spy agency has done little to scale back its spying operations even after being exposed by various whistleblowers. what was revealed by edward snowden the mass surveillance that he uncovered and exposed. my guess is it never stopped happening and that it's continuing to today and i you know most americans who are self-aware should assume that they're being monitored most of the time the u.s. government said or about national security rarely have anything to do with the security of you know ordinary citizens like myself and everything to do with the security of corporations to make a lot of profit. i think you know it begs the question as to whether we're being monitored in order to stifle political dissent and i think

should be number one and we should find out what the hell is going on in its mission statement of the n.s.a. upholds our commitment to protecting the privacy rights of american citizens it also highlights the need for accountability when pursuing intelligence gathering the n.s.a.'s recent doctrines of raise concern among privacy advocates don believes that the spy agency has done little to scale back its spying operations even after being exposed by whistleblower edward snowden what was revealed by edward snowden the mass surveillance that he uncovered and exposed. my guess is it never stopped happening and that it's continuing to today and i you know most americans who are self-aware should assume that they're being monitored most of the time the u.s. government said or about national security rarely have anything to do with the security of you know ordinary citizens like myself and everything to do with the security of corporations to make a lot of profit. i think you know it begs the question as to whether we're being monitored in order to stifle political dissent and i think. that is wh

interference he didn't why didn't you inform president obama why didn't he meet president obama the n.s.a. the f.b.i. and the cia have a fifth thirty five billion dollar combined budget with for thirty five billion dollars the american people get moderate to high confidence and if you look at the d.n.i. and v.h.s. reports the two intelligence reports that all of this is based on there's nothing certain to zero evidence and there's a war there are warranty disclaimers stating that even high confidence the highest level of assessment even high confidence could be wrong yeah and they actually say in one of the reports don't take anything we say as fact so the intelligence reports are completely just basically opinion three hundred thirty five billion dollars of opinion you have the d.n.c. who never gave its computer service to the f.b.i. they hired crowd strikethrough hillary clinton purchasing through her law firm crowd strike paying crowd strike and also paying christopher steele infusion g.p.s. and glenn simpson for the still does if anyone colluded with russia it was hillary clinton well

and found out that there were third party contractors given access in to the n.s.a. database to do queries. and that mike rogers was very concerned about this. and conveniently goes and briefs trump up in trump tower during the transition period to which trump exits trump tower after that, goes up to bedminster and doesn't do meetings afterwards after in trump tower. >> laura: real quick, the final thought. >> i think what we have to remember is michael horowitz, the d.o.j. inspector general is a serious guy and i'm glad he is looking into this. >> laura: no subpoena power, though. he can't do any prosecution. we'll get a report. what we do with the report, that remains to be seen. great to have all of you on. fantastic panel. meanwhile, the president is lashing out at james comey. there may be stunning evidence to back it up. >> president trump: i did a great service to this country by firing james comey. and excuse me, a lot of people have said it. you go into the f.b.i. and a lot of those great people working in the f.b.i., they will tell you i did a great service

basically undermine a proposed judicial warrant requirement that would have constrained to mastic n.s.a. f.b.i. n.d.a. searches to ensure that if the government's going to spy on someone that has a reason for doing so we know that in at least dozens of cases and essay employees and contractors have used the surveillance tools that our government has constructed illegally and in secret to spy on their former lovers or ex-wives that's exactly the kind of abuse that a judicial warrant requirement would stop and it is exactly what she prevented from becoming law in the face of and this is important bipartisan support for judicial warrant requirement you know a lot of people think about our politics system as divided between left and right which is the democrats versus republicans but increasingly that's not necessarily the accurate way it splits it's much more about center versus periphery because the establishment of the g.o.p. and the establishment of the democrats they march in lockstep and the direction in which they're marching is not one that respects the rights and liberties of the a

interference he didn't why didn't we inform president obama why didn't he meet president obama the n.s.a. the f.b.i. and the cia have a fifth thirty five billion dollar combined budget with for thirty five billion dollars the american people get moderate to high confidence and if you look at the d.n.i. and the h.s. reports the two intelligence reports that all of this is based on there's nothing certain to zero evidence and there's a war there are warranty disclaimers stating that even high confidence the highest level of assessment even high confidence could be wrong yeah and they actually say in one of the reports don't take anything we say as fact so the intelligence reports are completely just basically opinion three hundred thirty five billion dollars of opinion you have the d.n.c. who never gave its computer service to the f.b.i. they hired crowd strikethrough hillary clinton purchasing through her law firm crowd strike paying crowd strike and also paying christopher steele infusion g.p.s. and glenn simpson for the still does see if anyone colluded with russia it was hillary clinto

basically undermine a proposed judicial warrant requirement that would have constrained to mastic n.s.a. f.b.i. n.d.a. searches to ensure that if the government's going to spy on someone that has a reason for doing so we know that in at least dozens of cases and essay employees and contractors have used the surveillance tools that our government has constructed illegally and in secret to spy on their former lovers or ex-wives that's exactly the kind of abuse that a judicial warrant requirement would stop and it is exactly what she prevented from becoming law in the face of and this is important bipartisan support for a judicial warrant requirement you know a lot of people think about our politics system as divided between left and right which is the democrats versus republicans but increasingly that's not necessarily the accurate way it splits it's much more about center versus periphery because the establishment of the g.o.p. and the establishment of the dems and democrats they march in lockstep and the direction in which they're marching is not one that respects the rights and liberti

john brennan lied under oath about spying on the senate james clapper lied under oath about the n.s.a. spying on americans james komi lied under oath about exonerating clinton before her interview peter struck in a text message said we can't take the risky use the word risk we can't take the risk of trump becoming president we have to engage in the insurer and insurance policy that we spoke about a mantra mccabe's office trying to just fire a molar and tweet that text. but then let's look at andrew mccabe he lied and he lied under oath twice and lied four times this is the office of professional responsibility at the f.b.i. so you have all of these people who are in immense positions of power lying either lying under oath or obviously part of not a conspiracy theory an actual conspiracy of individuals to achieve a political goal john brennan met with harry reid during the election to inform harry reid of alleged russian interference he didn't why didn't he inform president obama why didn't he meet president obama the n.s.a. the f.b.i. and the cia have a fifth thirty five billion dolla

interference he didn't why didn't we inform president obama why didn't he meet president obama the n.s.a. the f.b.i. and the cia have a fifty thirty five billion dollar combined budget with for thirty five billion dollars the american people get moderate to high confidence and if you look at the odeon i and d.h. just reports the two intelligence reports that all of this is based on there's nothing certain to zero evidence and there's a war there are warranty disclaimers stating that even high confidence the highest level of assessment even high confidence could be wrong yeah and they actually say in one of the reports don't take anything we say as fact so the intelligence reports are completely just basically opinion three hundred thirty five billion dollars of opinion you have the d.n.c. who never gave its computer service to the f.b.i. they hired crowd strikethrough hillary clinton purchasing through her law firm crowd strike paying crowd strike and also paying christopher steele infusion g.p.s. and glenn simpson for the still does see if anyone colluded with russia it was hillary clin

brennan lied under oath about spying on the senate james clapper lied under oath about the n.s.a. spying on americans james komi lied under oath about exonerating clinton before her interview peter struck in a text message said we can't take the risky use the word risk we can't take the risk of trump becoming president we have to engage in the insurer and in an insurance policy that we spoke about a mantra mccabe's office trunk should just fire a molar and tweet that text but then let's look at andrew mccabe he lied and he lied under oath twice and lied four times this is the office of professional responsibility at the f.b.i. so you have all of these people who are in immense positions of power lying either lying under oath or obviously part of not a conspiracy theory an actual conspiracy of individuals to achieve a political goal john brennan met with harry reid during the election to inform harry reid of alleged russian interference he didn't why didn't he inform president obama why didn't he meet president obama the n.s.a. the f.b.i. and the cia have a fifty thirty five billio

or they knew the mistake but kept it a secret the fact is the american super secret service n.s.a. used this very mistake to program a spy too and used it until it was probably stolen by an employee and sold to cyber criminals. in view of such dangers doesn't the state have to insist on the disclosure of the source code for all its software. that's not in my future galland and instead of. letting the of my conscience and to fall in any sense test know just. by socially counsel. and instance oas honest you can tell how fast paced it's and i think i'm good so i thought i had a consequence teams data protection officer your highness caspar also considers this gateway for american secret services in microsoft programs unacceptable after all the german constitution obliges the state to unconditionally protect the data of its citizens get angle of. vela strong into get into it all he's got in for much he wants to introduce the human it's entirely microsoft concept with a conscience lest yadi consequences in not to survive. in prison on the guns. of the conversation internet filmon darton

good question and quite difficult to answer because indeed there is a very big brain drain out of n.s.a. i just came two days ago from colombia from the border between venezuela and colombia and you can. see so many people sleeping they're just fleeing from the crisis this is also going to affect the elections because we don't really know how many people are going to vote we don't really know how many people are leaving but as well as some talk about four million or suck about five million so these are huge numbers for this country and it is going to be very difficult for him and his attitudes to app again not only in a political way but also in an economical way this election is are going to be a very important but also that while the economy and the old prices drop might have to have done a favor to add to my the window because of the iran deal the price is now a bit higher and that is a good thing for venezuela could have a positive knock on effect for the business will require a car you're just back from the border every actually just coming back from the border area today to find t

i'm referring to the work of n.s.a. certified cyber red teams which are only cyber red teams -- which are the only cyber red teams that are capable of simulating cyber attacks on d.o.d. systems or major weapon systems. they're there to determine if there are velarde nerblets that compromise our system, our weapons being tested. the 2006 defense authorization act mandated cyber red team testing on each major weapon system and mitigate the risks of cyber vulnerabilities identified in those evaluations. that's referred to as adversarial assessments and they're primarily managed by the direction of operation and and evaluations, dot e. mr. secretary, there are only a handful of red teams authorized to conduct those assessments and i'm concerned that d.o.d. is not addressing what dot&e is described as a shortfall to meet the demands of cyber testing. it has increased 36% in funding and that lends me to these kinds of questions. will the department allocate cyber funds toward increase n.s.a. certified red teams? or any of the

you know and those people were incorporated into the n.s.a. and those people were. you know were used for the manhattan project and used for all kinds of nefarious things and some of these people so you know it's basically the idea that we defeated fascism is is as false what we did is we sort of merged into fascism and took it over and you know so that's really where it's at and i the reason the again young people are confused as cause they're lied to every day. in addition to war criminals political scientists historians ideologists who had worked on hitler's propaganda as well as representatives of european countries that it collaborated with the nazis who took refuge in the united states. i mean to come and see it with me in mind it more than school if there was sort of a nearly bit obvious this at least of because of a school because i made a councillor benefits of the. realm of where he had left any of syria's obvious. never borders she avoided. myths about the soviet threat and a preventative german strike on the us this on. nothing new they were developed in

snowden issues came out and they found out that they were just handing over our private data to the n.s.a. without you know and violating our personal fourth and fifth amendment rights there you know i wish we would have seen that kind of outrage then the last thing i'm going to ask about is you know they're not just stopping at moderate moderating new . mentioned earlier piers morgan's are birds and it's like a bird is intent on moderating our love lives as well matched the owner of dating haps tender and ok cupid so it stocks tumble today on the news that facebook will now enter the dating service steve are you going to are you going to sign up for facebook. services you trust well here so you trust them with your love life now well they already have all my information and if you're on it your all your information so i know you have to sign up but you don't have to give them anything got they. i got it you know i've never full disclosure i'm divorced but i've never had the nerve to put my picture on a dating site ever i just never have and now my picture is already on facebook and like

next me of us accused of the kind of us that it was because of the people don't understand about the n.s.a. pickiest you look at enough just the most magnificent of all of the good officer of the board and they can move the measures to say this is it this is ship we're looking at a live in the superman is a political play. she and i saw genetically modified organisms and the system heads in the food industry in the one nine hundred ninety s. . when i saw me taking out a knife and what does that have to do with g.m. my. life. was just so good that. i just almost saw. life is a chemical widely used to kill we. see why it was like to be a mystery. they used by so many runs all possible damnation that they had a future scientists treat the dream projects really full on the human race to science service to well free of g.m. and chrysler eight which would even be the same as we pass the points of never sand . we have to judge countries are trying to lead their set directives case by case so we need more objective but the reality is. you know media. tries to get the facts but multiple leans towar

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and n.s.a. there's always been a certain segment of the american population that questions not only their credibility but their legitimacy as well but seemingly from those who once stood firmly against the u.s. intelligence community have become its staunchest defenders now we have this meeting to investigate the investigators there has been demanded by the president of the united states who is just himself the subject of the investigation i think that's the kind of thing that republicans in particular ought to pay attention to rather than the notion of a deep state conspiracy of which there is no evidence but that it exists meet veteran journalists carl bernstein while working for the washington post first to expose president nixon's role in the watergate scandal that eventually forced him out of office but what most people don't know about bernstein is that he wasn't a big fan of the u.s. intelligence community to put it lightly his parents who were new dealers actively involved in the anti se

came out because of the whistleblower edward snowden when he when he gave a lot of information on n.s.a. surveillance and terrorist targeting programs things like that so again this is another thing we're looking at if this is validated even if this case goes forward the u.s. government somebody would have to prove that it does exist that this was a blow or what he actually did state was true and that this is a program that does exist now i'm going to predicate this on if it does exist if skynet is real and that is what it does this points to a much bigger part and u.s. policy officials going back of course of the obama administration where they not only don't understand the threat of terrorism don't understand the roots of modern day terrorism because they have to use computer algorithms rather than utilizing experts and people with knowledge and to be honest these two journalists would be such people that are u.s. citizens that have talked to the highest echelons and would be able to better explain what is going on there in the minds of these terrorist organizations and leaders in ord

you know and those people were incorporated into the n.s.a. and those people were. you know were used for the manhattan project and used for all kinds of nefarious things and some of these people so you know it's basically the idea that we defeated fascism is is is false what we did is we sort of merged into fascism and took it over and you know so that's really where it's at and i the reason you know again young people are confused as cause they're lied to every day . in addition to war criminals political scientists historians ideologists who had worked on hitler's propaganda as well as representatives of european countries that they collaborated with the nazis who took refuge in the united states. i mean he gonna see a pretty amount it more than the sword and everybody disputes and he still does a good school course i mean a counselor professor. where you can laugh and you. here's a thought. she writes. myths about the soviet threat and a preventative german strike on the u.s.s.r. and nothing new they were developed inside the third reich this justification was e

temari n.s.a. headed to georgia to meet the results will residents of one small village now they've begun using solar energy to heat water which has a knock on effect it protects local far east. at six thirty eight. fetches the hot water like she does every morning. the cows utter house to be cleaned before milking. a little later as well as the family's breakfast she makes cheese and requires a lot of patience she can tell that she's ready when the consistency is just right . everything here runs like clockwork with no time for breaks. while there is activities on housewife i have a lot of work to do i clean make the food clear cows and lots of other things that would be office like there's always something to do their office floor or. none to go to bennett says sixteen and was a nurse for thirty years she lives with her husband son daughter in law and grandchildren. i always need hot water i'm glad we have this system. they received a solar powered water heater from a local energy cooperative. th

the n.s.a. conducts searches of americans, those searches have to be approved on a case-by-case basis with probable cause by the attorney general. the n.s.a. doesn't actually have to go to court which is a concern, but those requirements create meaningful hurdles to abuse. so i thought it was important to ask about the c.i.a. when can the c.i.a. conduct backdoor searches of americans? the response i got from ms. haspel is that the searches are authorized if they're designed to get information related to the c.i.a.'s activities. that means there's no standard at all on backdoor searches of americans. now, i mentioned these two unclassified examples because they show how vague the rules are and how easily the c.i.a. could violate the privacy of americans. that's why it's important to have leaders at the agency who believe in the privacy of the american people and are committed to protecting it, protecting americans, protecting americans even if sometimes a lawyer says that something might be techn

think there's a roué at the moment with our british politicians and what they're saying about the n.s.a or the fake chemical attack in syria and what they're saying about the scriptural case well looking forward to such a great the wonderful game of football i'm looking to the world to come together this is why all of this conflict and row is just a diversion and is just pure propaganda and it needs to stop and stop now and i think in the end english fans will ignore this police officer they will go there they'll have a drink i'm not even get drunk that i enjoy a festival of football hopefully have lots of banter with the opposing fans how silly no trouble at all a little trouble and it can be a sort of aeration of the beautiful game and hopefully in some way bring countries together and perhaps also break down this narrative that our governments are pushing at the moment that russia is the enemy. but other important football tournament recently took place in the russian capital to raise awareness about rough sleeping children. pst this is ati international many more of your world wide

n.s.a. there's always been a certain segment of the american population that questions not only their credibility but their legitimacy as well but seemingly some of those who once stood firmly against the u.s. intelligence community have become its staunchest defenders now we have this meeting to investigate the investigators there has been demanded by the president of the united states who is just himself the subject of the investigation i think that's the kind of thing republicans in particular ought to pay attention to rather than the notion of a deep state conspiracy of which there is no evidence for that it exists meet veteran journalists carl bernstein while working for the washington post first to expose president nixon's role in the watergate scandal that eventually forced him out of office but what most people don't know about bernstein is that he wasn't a big fan of the u.s. intelligence community to put it lightly his parents who were new dealers actively involved in the anti segr

middle finger i mean you know every couple years there's a cover of spiegel where you know there's the n.s.a. scandal or there's the iraq war i mean there's this sort of periodic episodes when there are differences between the united states and europe you know you have particularly germans go crazy like we've got the cover of be good be pull that up so our viewers can see in case they haven't see their i mean basically what you're seeing is germany and you're giving what the finger is a truck but i mean it's not all the elites right i mean there have been two schools of thoughts right that the u.s. the transatlantic partnership as we know it is over europe has to be independent and there are others who say hold your nose yeah we did it will have a more responsible voices are saying that because let's be honest there's no plan b. for europe europe cannot be an independent poll in international affairs europe cannot maintain its own security it can't maintain the liberal world order that unless to speak of so much exactly be able to compete against china it's not going to be able to resist rus