amy: ralph nader, we thank you for being with us. a longtime consumer advocate and f former presidential candidate -- candidate. our condolences on the death of your grandniece. we send our condolences. and william magee, thank you so much for being with us, aviation advisor for consumer reports. your book "attention all , passengers, the airlines' dangerous descent." the we come back, college testing and entrance scandal. at least 50 people have been indicted. stay with us. amy: this is democracy now!. juan: we turn now to operation varsity blues, that is the name of a sweeping federal probe into what the justice department calls the biggest college admissions scam the agency has ever uncovered. on tuesday, 50 people were arrested, including 13 college coaches for taking part in a scheme where wealthy parents paid exorbitant sums to secure spots fofor their unqualified children in elite schools including yale, stanford, georgetown, ucla, usc and wake forest. prosecutors have charged 33 parents including hollywood stars alyssa a huff

individuals is ralph nader, five-time presidential candidate. ralph nader plays a crucial role in popularizing whistleblowing as a term and a concept. he is looking to inspire a havere where professionals a duty to the public transcending the bosses, and he is calling on traditions of civil disobedience. the principle of whistleblowing starts to gain a lot of traction in the 1970's, but as we , the questionse of who is a whistleblower and the ethics of disclosure remain in flux. there is a variety of whistleblowing. with nader, it was about business and the corporate world , rather the state what we now associate with national security issues. tell us a little bit more about national security, whistleblowing, when that starts. national security whistleblowing is distinct from the kind of whistleblowing that toer initially started sketch. what differentiates it is the kind of information known as national defense information. some of it is classified, but there are also parts that are .ot classified we talk about whistleblowing as a term, but nat

one of the key individuals is ralph nader, the consumerist champion lawyer. five time presidential candidate. ralph nader plays a crucial role in popularizing whistleblowing as a term and concept. he is looking to inspire a culture where professionals develop a sense of duty to the public that is transcending the bosses. he is drawing on traditions of civil disobedience, looking for government reform. a principle of what a blowing starts to gain political traction in the 1970's. these questions of who is a whistleblower? what is the ethics of his closure remain in flux. . jay sexton: there are a variety of different whistleblowing. the protecting of the consumer. that is distinct from what we now associate it with, which is national security. tell us a little bit about national security whistleblowing , when that starts and to what effect. prof. mistry: national security whistleblowing is distinct from the kind of was a blowing that ralph nader starts to sketch. what differentiates it is the kind of information. what is known as national defense information.

i was there to see the american leadership that's not what george nader seems to be telling the mother folks right now that worry you the native country that your former colleague i think it's amazing for you to try to view into the miller testimony that it's my impression to i mean ok that's that's what that's what's being reported ok. i want to bring in you mentioned iran interesting enough to bring in very briefly before we move on and i know the audience are waiting ghaith abdul-ahad is an award winning guardian journalist from iraq you've covered conflicts across the middle east when you hear about the amorality s. and trump and the saudis and the israelis what is that all about i mean it mentioned iran is this all about iran i mean of course we're living kind of people say it's a cold war it's not a cold war game or between their morality so does the israelis and the iranians on the other side and what the monarchies are doing for example in yemen and i think you work with the iraqis and you advise them at one point they are actually implementing you are of i understand plans so

>> so for example, you brought up george nader, right? he was an adviser to the uae.came a cooperating witness for mueller, but, you know, he was essentially you know, allegedly offering to give contracts to broidy's security business for over a billion dollars. and in exchange, what he was hoping for was that elliott broidy would sway white house policy to benefit both the uae and saudi arabia. >> from your report, the warrant, which was filed in july 2018 targeted broidy's office in los angeles. the scope of what authorities were seeking was broad. they planned to seize any evidence related to a list of dozens of people, countries, and corporate entities, according to the warrant. among the names on the list are rick gates, the former trump campaign official, who has pleaded guilty in the mueller probe, colfax law office, the firm founded by robert ros rosenzweig, broidy's wife. >> it's unclear. time will only tell how all these pieces fit together. but like you said, it was a long list. one of the names that we hadn't ever seen before being publicly connected to br

did you see ralph nader?d. >> yes, and i -- it is, look, boeing is the safety first company. obviously the new york times article is very tough. very tough >> it is so hard to talk about this it is a tragic and -- it is a tragedy and a loss of life and i don't want to disparage other countries and safety and everything else, but i mean pilot training is paramount. i'm still not sure we know it is the faa and boeing or whether maybe it was pilots that weren't completely equipped to fly the plane safely which had a lot of safe flights and other places. i don't know it seemed to be maybe putting the carriage in front of the horse to some extent though it is ralph nader we need consumer advocates, no doubt. you need the balance between the two sides. but i think of boeing as a preeminent american manufacturer that, you know, we have pride in >> i think it is our greatest manufacturer and i think that the reputation for safety, i mean, wow, it is unassailable. if you go to the world war ii museum in new orleans, y

david: long time consumer advocate ralph nader tragically lost his 24-year-old grand niece in deadlye crash last week, he is now determined to turn his family's anguish to action, he is on a merril persol mission to found out what cause the th the boeing 7 too crash. ralph, our condolences. >> just a minute. she had leadership, compassion and intellectual rigor written all over her, she came out of masters global health out of university was copenhagen. feel researcfield research in a, invited to fre to conferences, p compassion, that the kind of leadership you want from younger generation, it is gone, because of what is clearly criminal negligence by boeing, they were pushing a business strategy too fast, to catch up with the airbus. and instead of going to the 7 737-900, they tried to make what they call minor change, increase number of seat to compete with airbus, told airline, you can get this 7 37 with more engine efficiency, more seats and you won't have to change your pilots and you can save money, that is kind of corporate cost-cutting that leads to criminal negligence where

yes even though georgia nader your fund raising like i've said before it lasted one beer which doesn't take me very long. so you flew halfway around the world to a secret meeting in the seychelles to have one beer with. i was there to see the iranian leadership that's not what georgia nader seems to be telling the miller folks right now is that were you the native country that your former colleague i think it's amazing for you to try to view into the miller testimony that it's my impression to i mean ok that's that's what that's what's being reported ok. i want to bring in you mentioned iran interesting enough to bring in very briefly before we move on and i know the audience are waiting ghaith abdul-ahad is an award winning guardian journalist from iraq you've covered conflicts across the middle east when you hear about the emerald teas and trump and the saudis and the israelis what is that all about i mean mentioned iran is this all about iran i mean of course we're living kind of people say it's a cold war it's not a cold war anymore between their morality so these are the israelis

i was there to see the american leadership that's not what george nader seems to be telling the mother folks right now that were you the native country that your former colleague i think it's amazing for you to try to view into the miller testimony that it's my impression to i mean ok that's that's what that's what's being reported ok. i want to bring in you mentioned iran interesting enough to bring in very briefly before we move on and i know the audience are waiting ghaith abdul-ahad is an award winning guardian journalist from iraq you've covered conflicts across the middle east when you hear about the emerald t.'s and trump and the saudis and the israelis what is that all about i mean mentioned iran is this all about iran i mean of course we're living kind of people say it's a cold war it's not a cold war anymore between their morality so these are the israelis and the iranians on the other side and what the monarchies are doing for example in yemen and i think you work with the iraqis and you advise them at one point they are actually implementing you are of understand plan so if

that's not what george nader seems to be telling the mother focus right now is i worry you the native country that you are a former colleague i think it's amazing for you to try to view into the miller testimony that it's my impression to i mean ok that's that's what that's what's being reported ok. i want to bring in you mentioned iran interesting enough to bring in very briefly before we move on and i know the audience are waiting ghaith abdul-ahad is an award winning guardian journalist from iraq you've covered conflicts across the middle east when you hear about the amorality s. and trump and the saudis and the israelis what is that all about i mean mentioned iran is this all about iran i mean of course we're living kind of people say it's a cold war it's not a cold war game or between their morality so does the israelis and the iranians on the other side and what the minorities are doing for example in yemen and i think you work with iraqis and you advise them at one point they are actually implementing you are of i understand plans so if you see the morality war in the air and i

or troops to nader's eastern flank as a deterrent there are around five thousand u.s. soldiers and poland. the digital town of auschwitz near the nato base has been profiting from the presence of so many u.s. soldiers oaks and others frequently visited he says he does not feel threatened that the russian border is less than one hundred kilometers away. i wouldn't say a burden at all it's. our nato partners manny off the townspeople feel safe for now that the americans are here at oaks favorite restaurant people no longer fear russia. where less afraid of them coming here or bombing us because. we think we can depend on the americans. bought of the best. and one of the guys we believe will help us is in case it comes to a conflict with russia. poland has been calling for a permanent u.s. spies for years but for the time being the soldiers are only stationed here for short term oaks will soon return to tennessee he's especially looking forward to being with the same daughter again homie so only briefly right after she was born. to uganda now with susan long it was crowne

trump tower with don jr trump son which stephen miller then a campaign advisor to trump with george nader a former blackwater colleague of yours who works as a back channel to the saudis there moralities you're supposed to be convicted paedophile and also joel's imo an israeli expert on social media manipulation how come you didn't mention that meeting to congress given it so relevant to their investigation. i did as part of the part of the investigations i certainly disclosed any any meetings the very not you i don't in the congressional testimony you gave to the house we went through you didn't mention anything about august twenty sixth meeting in trump tower i specifically asked you what context you have and you didn't answer that. i don't believe i was asked that question you asked whether any communique from all communications or contact with the campaign you said apart from writing papers putting up yard signs no what you said i've got the transcript of the conversation here. sure i mean i might have been i think i was at trump headquarters or the campaign headquarters probably the

tower with don junior trump son which stephen miller then a campaign advisor to trump with george nadera former blackwater colleague of yours who acts as a back channel to the saudis the emirates you're supposed to be a convicted paedophile and also joel's imo an israeli expert on social media manipulation how come you didn't mention that meeting to congress given it so relevant to their investigation. i did as part of the part of the investigations i certainly disclosed in the any meetings the very new i don't in the congressional testimony you gave to the house we went through you didn't mention anything about august twenty sixth meeting in trump tower they specifically asked you what context you have and you didn't answer that. i don't believe i was asked that question. asked whether any community for communications or contact with the campaign you said apart from writing papers putting up yard signs no what you said of the transcript of the conversation here. i might have been i think it was at trump headquarters or the campaign headquarters. twenty sixteen usable and israeli do a b

liz: did you see this, that ralph nader's great niece.r, died in the ethiopian airlines crash. >> i did. >> a terrible story. >> it is. multiply ralph nader by however many states we reported here, close to 400, and people are saying why? we just don't know. if you go back to what the pilot said when we first heard about this after the indonesian crash. people would say the mgac software, pilots were saying ways that? we don't even know what it is. liz: ralph nairder told fox business, mark my words, boeing will pay. up next, the fallout is continuing and increasing. a growing number of democrats say they are open -- they want to change the rules. doing things like packing the supreme court. wait until you hear which top democrat slammed that idea as bone-headed. -driverless cars... -all ground personnel... ...or trips to mars. $4.95. delivery drones or the latest phones. $4.95. no matter what you trade, at fidelity it's just $4.95 per online u.s. equity trade. no matter what you trade, at fidelity if ywhen you brush or floss, you don't h

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the coast guard is the overall for nader. -- coordinator. of the military branches will be supporting them. >> do you think the federal government should take over at least part of this? are you satisfied down? -- now? >> i'm satisfied that the president has come forward and given us considerable portion of their quest that we made to him and his staff in the cabinet people here. overll have great concern the oil spill going out of prince william sound heading towards kodiak. admiral yost's demand man that we have absolute confidence in. we are pleased to see that he will be coordinating this effort now. we have never asked for federalization. we've asked for federal control of the further actions that must be taken. we feel there are at least 2 million gallons still going towards kodiak. we must try to do something about the. that, i don't know if you know the extent to which secretary cheney has already been involved. he has 100 naval officers working for paul joost now, naval personnel. they have 22 scammers out there. probably three four

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or troops that are nader's east on flank as a deterrent they are now around five thousand u.s. soldiers and poland. every year opponent is spending two percent of its g.d.p. on defense making it a poster child for nato for selling jewelry crime and stuff the alliance has also. repeated price by the united states now in return for their financial commitments poland is also demanding for more security from nato and for more u.s. troops in that country. the little town of or she's near the naval base has been profiting from the presence of so many u.s. soldiers oaks and obvious frequently visited he says he does not feel threatened even though the russian border is less than one hundred kilometers away. i wouldn't say a burden at all it's. nato partners we're here to train with him for any threat this is not just that you know it's it's any threat whatsoever so fully if we train for one hundred years and nothing ever happens that's good training manny off the townspeople feel safe for now that the americans are here at oaks favorite restaurant people no longer fear russia will loo

has sent extra troops that are nader's eastern flank that's a deterrent there now around five thousand u.s. soldiers in poland. every year opponent is spending two percent of its g.d.p. on defense making it a poster child for nato for selling to a crime and stuff the alliance has also led sure repeated price by the united states now into. turn for the financial commitment poland is also demanding for more security from nato and for more u.s. troops in the country. the little town of or she's near the nato base has been profiting from the past and stuff so many of us soldiers oaks and others frequently visit it he says he does not feel threatened even though the russian border is less than one hundred kilometers away. i wouldn't say a burden at all it's. our nato partners we're here to train with him for any serious this is not just that you know it's it's any threat whatsoever so for the freight train for one hundred years and nothing ever happens but it's good training manny off the townspeople feel safer and now that the americans are here at alex favorite restaurant people no longer

circle un court nader at human rights group thank you so much for joining us on the program today. the u.k. government finds itself accused of racism after stripping citizenship from a british aid worker in syria explain what happened in just a moment. to make this manufacture consent to public wealth. when the ruling classes to protect themselves. with the find. the one person. with no middle of the room sick. seems wrong. just don't. get to shape out just days after. and in detroit equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. welcome back a british born man has been working in syria has accused the u.k. of racism after it stripped him of his citizenship over alleged ties to jihad is to care sharif describes himself as an aid worker and denies any wrongdoing but admits to previous ng dating and armed combat and a situation that has the details. pickier sharif has spent years in syria as a prominent aid worker described as one of the most high profile for nationals in series appearances on prominent news networks as well as dispatc

sami nader there speaking to us from the levant institute for strategic affairs thank you for your insight sami and vigils been held in iraq for at least one hundred people who were killed when their ferry capsized in the northern city of mosul it was carrying family celebration new is the persian new year most of the victims were women and children as there is not actually going to him has this update from baghdad. hundreds of iraqis were celebrating the no rues holiday at an amusement park in mosul when tragedy struck good. images on social media reveal a distressing sea after a ferry carrying an estimated two hundred people capsized a distraught husband and father of begs the police to take him to the banks of the tigris river and now i don't know if they my own i work my family through the water right now my wife and my daughter and i'm asking the police to beat me to go to the other side but they will give me one. zero bystanders were screaming some were jumping into the river to try to rescue people and some passengers could be seen swimming furiously against the swift current. in th

trump tower with don jr trump son which stephen miller then a campaign advisor to trump with george nader a former blackwater colleague of yours who acts as a back channel to the saudis there moralities you're supposed to be convicted paedophile and also joel's imo an israeli expert on social media manipulation how come you didn't mention that meeting to congress given it's so relevant to their investigation. i did as part of the part of the investigations i certainly disclosed in the any meetings the very new i had on the congressional testimony you gave to the house we went through it you didn't mention anything about august twenty sixth meeting in trump tower they specifically asked you what context you have and you didn't answer that. i don't believe i was asked that question you asked whether any community for communications or contact with the campaign you said apart from writing papers putting up yard signs know. what you said i've got the transcript of the conversation here. i mean i might have been i think it was at trump headquarters or the campaign headquarters might be our aug

david: that was consumer advocate, ralph nader on our show last night, now first airline indonesia airlineorders of boeing 7 37 max after saying consumer have lost confidence in the plane. joining us george hamlin. president of hamlin transportation. is this beginning of ep ar end e 737 max? >> i think safest thing to say, rumors of its demise are premature, gruda already host postponed the orders of the plane. other question, this beans means larger in general, if you give up on the max, where do you go, how soon can you get a replacement. >> my view point, this is all terrible, a tragedy. when they fix it and they will, because they know how to deal this, they will have a public relations blitz to reassure flying public and customers, airlines will have no choice but to accept that because they would rather that this plan than not. >> that is very true, their two competitors 737 family and a-320 from airbus, order book is full. are in any quantity you can't get them for years, boeing will either fix this or we won't be talking about boeing again. >> george, this is jonas, is this anythin

august of 2016 you were at trump tower with don jr., and steve miller then a campaign adviser, george nader who is a back channel to the saudis and emirates and a convicted pedophile and joel zemmel a social media expert, how come you didn't mention that meeting to congress given it is so relevant to their investigation. >> i did, as part of the investigation, i certainly disclosed -- >> not in the trump tower. they specifically asked you what contacts you had and you didn't answer that. >> i don't believe i was asked that question. >> you were asked any communications with the campaign and you said apart from writing papers and putting up yard signs, you said no. i have the transcript to the conversation here. >> sure, i might have been -- i think i was at trump headquarters or the campaign headquarters. >> august 3rd, 2016, usable, don junior. >> we were there to talk about iran policy. >> don't you think that's important to disclose. >> i did. >> you didn't. we just went through the testimony. there is no mention of the trump tower in august 2016, there is not. >> i don't know if they go

nader said barack obama should can comey for influencing the election. eye ironic. -- how ironic. thank goodness for tape. >> what comey did was so improper and wrong from the beginning in july. the president was to fire comey inland. >> you can't just fire comey? >> yes, he can. >> why? >> for cause. >> he is insulated. >> he ought to. >> sean: there is a serious side to all of this. what this is about is the democrats. they want to make the next 2 years about trying to wear you out. wear you down. trying to destroy the president. they want a death by a thousand cuts if they can't impeach. hoping you will tire out. make you want to abandon the president who has had so much success so they can build more power and act as radical socialists agenda for america's future. that's what it's about. power and their agenda. they can't get it done any other way. now it's clear that mueller won't give them what they want. this is plan-b and c and dand eand f. look at everything. open the widest net possible. all things trump. anything he came into contact with over decades and launch more ph