where it conflicts with nafta but does not impose a higher standard, the nafta parties should negotiate as needed to resolve the conflict. this approach would make it possible to dramatically improve upon it while maintaining its primacy in north america. we can use it as a potential template for enhanced talks on regulatory harmonization among nafta countries. to a certain extent, regulatory talks are underway in the forums that have been created. they can provide a much more robust example and provide a template for accelerating and deepening regulatory reform. strategies, targeted solutions, chapter improvements, the agreements can in sure the vibrancy of nafta while most importantly driving convergence between the legal frameworks governing trade in north america , europe, and asia. convergence here is absolutely the key. it will facilitate greater consistency and treatment and outcomes and avoid the regional balkanization of trade. convergence will help guarantee the future of north american competitiveness globally and ensure that our trilateral partnership remains robust and forw

the nafta is there.it provides a framework that allows manufacturing throughout the three countries. but to deepen it, i mean, one of the biggest things we need to do is lower the transaction costs at our borders. that is one of the first things we talked about. that is something that has increased since nafta in a large respect. the infrastructure, we are trading on infrastructure from 50 years ago, when our trading levels are five times what they were before nafta. we need to change the way that our borders function, so that they are not a barrier growing over time to our joint production system. things like that would be the way to further encourage the trends from the winds of the global economy. >> i would be cautious with using the word trend. a trend presumes that something will continue. ok? there is a case where tasks with any supply chain have been conducted in asia. they are relocating to north america. that is because labor costs have increased since 1990. and it increased transportation cost

the nafta is there.it provides a framework that allows manufacturing throughout the three countries. but to deepen it, i mean, one of the biggest things we need to do is lower the transaction costs our borders. that is one of the first things we talked about. that is something that has increased since nafta in a large respect. the infrastructure, we are trading on infrastructure from 50 years ago, when our trading levels are five times what they were before nafta. we need to change the way that our borders function, so that they are not a barrier growing over time to our joint production system. things like that would be the way to further encourage the trends from the winds of the global economy. >> i would be cautious with using the word trend. a trend presumes that something will continue. ok? there is a case where tasks with any supply chain have been conducted in asia. they are relocating to north america. that is because labor costs have increased since 1990. and it increased transportation costs a

market share of nafta apparel, so apparel that is produced in the nafta region, was 7% in 1994 when nafta came into force. the share of nafta apparel sold in the united states peaked at 18% in 1999. 2012 the share was 4%. so, actually, north american apparel trade has a smaller share, nafta apparel trade has a smaller share of total apparel trade in the united states than it did before nafta. now, this is just a reflection of it wasn't that there was a bad agreement at the time. in fact, i think the nafta rules on apparel reflected the interests of all three economies at the time it was done. what happened is the world changed. it was just overtaken by a new reality that -- and it didn't happen all at once. it didn't happen by a policy decision. in fact, nothing really changed this the rules. but one make or buy decision after another at one company or another, one more work around led to this circumstance. and that's really where we stand today. that is the opportunity. i'll take chris wilson's point on this, which is companies in all three countries are trying to do their level best of

there have been other elements, believe, out of nafta. nafta was 20 years ago. we learned a lot about the trading agreements and the trading system since nafta. hat's why the policy workers we're pursuing now builds on the lessons of nafta and focuses on labor standards, environmental standards, intellectual property right dealing with new issues like state owned enterprises and global supply we can help drive jobs in the united states, and we can ake this a magnet for production and for manufacturing. >> i want to thank ambassador froman. are a lot of effective trade negotiations coming out of washington. a terrific primer. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> thank you, ambassador. >> more tomorrow on u.s. trade olicy as former trade representatives talk about past trade agreements and the status transalantic trade and investment partnership negotiations between the u.s. and european union. will be hosted by the university of virginia's miller affairs, live c on c-span 3. long tradition of social media back to the ere era of cicero, the late roman r

that was true before nafta and w.t.o. we had to rewrite those laws to conform to a rule that requires us to import things that are equivalent, determined by the other country. etc., etc., etc. now, what's up with fast track politically is directly related to the attack on congress' jurisdiction authority and the negative outcomes these trade agreements have had for the public. since nafta, fast track has become exceedingly unpopular. so after nafta passed, president clinton was unable to ever get fast track trade authority again. an important fact the congressional history is that actually congress, on a bipartisan majority in the house of representatives, voted down clinton's attempt to get fast track in 1998. he tried in 1997. didn't happen. he tried in 1998, 171 democrats and 71 republicans said i'm sticking with the founders. i'm not giving away my constitutional authority. and that was the end of president clinton having fast track. he had it only two of his eight years. but funny thing. the man implemented 130 trade

that was true before nafta and wto. we had to rewrite laws to reform to a rule that allows us to import things that are equivalent, determined by the other country. exit tracks at traffic center. now, what is of with fast-track politically? directly related to the attack on congress jurisdictional authority since nafta and fast track has become exceedingly unpopular. so after nafta passed president clinton was unable said ever get fast-track trade authority again . an important fact of congressional history is that actually congress on a bipartisan majority in the house of representatives voted down clinton's attempts to get fast track in 98. he chided 97. did not happen. he tried in 98, 171 democrats and 71 republicans said i'm sticking with the founders. and not giving away my constitutional authority demand that was the end of president clinton having fast track. he had it for two of his eight years. a fine thing, the man implemented 130 trade agreements, including some really big ones through normal procedures. trad

pre-nafta, during nafta, post-nafta, and they will be around i think in the future. i don't think there will be an easy fix, i really don't. this -- is as a practical matter. you can say the administration to take a tougher line. why? think about it from their point of view. and all that is on the plate at the administration, not just democrats but republicans, whoever is president. cattle certification a big issue? no. so i think you have to be realistic about what can be achieved, and do your best to defend your interests and get in a fight. but i don't think the issue will go away because of the nafta or because we like to see nafta renewed further. >> to pick up on the gentleman's question, i was thinking about, scott mentioned dave ricardo and it's always great to mention the great buddy to go back to ricardo, he does we talk about trade. he talks about intercourse among nations. we could get a whole generation focused, don't get in a way of intercourse. this could really -- [laughter] especially intercourse with cattle. this could be big. >> i just -- >> dialin

bill clinton reached out to the republicans to pass nafta. obama didn't reach out and now he owns it.

it shows it has the same investor that promote offshoring that were nafta. they take away the risks and costs. so even if your job isn't the one that is offshore, income across the economy, of people competing for the lower wage jobs real medium income declines. and we have seen that. so you probably have less to start with then you go to the pharmacy to pick up grandma's prescription, and as we just saw big group of congress people writing, medicare and medicaid reimbursement rates for medicines under one proposal would probably get higher. so you'd have to pay more. then you go to pick up dinner, and you have to have meat and fish that doesn't meet u.s. standards. even though they are not equal in meeting food safety. >> because of other country's food laws are not as stringent as those. >> it is a mix. it is a mix. some of them are good, sob may be better, but we have had chronically serious problems with seafood imports meaning u.s. safety standards with respect planly to vietnam, it's been a big issue. under this we lose the ability to keep the goods ou

they like nafta. way, but on this one we have to part company with him because we basically want to have a good trade agreement and we want to work with him to have a good trade agreement that benefits the united states. >> where do you think congress is? 173 have signed onto a letter to the president telling him not to do fast track. >> we've worked very hard on that and talked to people across the aisle, both republicans and democrats saying why are you buying a pig in a poke? we don't want to have fast track. we want to debate this. we want to see it. and if there's input or things that we don't want, congress, under the constitution has the right to make the treaties, and they are the ones that should ultimately not be delegating this authority. >> don't you find it interesting that tea partiers aren't more vocal about this? because it could threaten the sovereignty of the country and circumvent united states law? there is an international tribunal that could make decisions on lawsuits that could

someone asked about nafta. i think this is an area where the nafta infrastructure is going to help the relationship between mexican small companies, medium-sized companies, small companies that provide services and equipment to the oil and gas industry in mexico during your venture with the u.s.. that is a huge area of growth to me, by the way. >> is important to remove her that we sit here in washington or houston say, we don't want the national content requirements to be too high because that will be a barrier to investment. we also don't want it to be too low because part of this goal -- if this is not just about oil and gas, it is about helping the mexican economy, about increasing competitiveness and adding jobs. if we want this to be sustainable in the long term, the mexican people need to feel a benefit from it. that is why i think it is incumbent upon both as is and government right now to work together to work out what would be a fair level of the national local content for the government and pemex in

did the implementation of nafta lead to what is occurring in mexico the opening of the energy sector to foreign investment? thank you. >> thank you. i was very young when nafta was -- i will say that obviously we're looking two elements that go in the same direction. in the near term as i show ed i the slides, we have had a decreasing production of oil, of gas, and of petrochemicals. that created the need of the mexican government since he was a candidate. the responsibility to change the framework that we had. secondly, of course, we're interested in having a better economic integration in a way that allows us to compete on a fair basis. if our costs of gas and electricity are higher than those that are in the united states, we do not benefit the region. so we need to establish mechanisms to make the whole area competitive and i think that this reform accomplishes bothiv bothiv both objectives. >> thank you. >> i wish i could take more questions. >> you will. >> i'll be around if there's other questions. >> we will come back in a if few minutes with a larger panel. i'd like to ask d

the combination of the maquiladora program and nafta has helped mexico to enjoy rapid growth during thet half decade, but not at the expense of u.s. jobs growth. many analysts now talk about mexico as the next tiger economy, or leopard economy, because there are no tigers in mexico. economic principle tells us that free trade or at least freer trade will mean lower consumer prices and in the long-term, job security and a stable, competitive economy. but in the real world, the short-term world, all of us and our elected officials find it hard to turn away from the plight of those whose jobs are threatened by competition from abroad, no matter how fair that competition. for "economics usa" this is david schoumacher. annenberg media ♪ annenberg media ♪ gold was the standard agait which most of the world valued its currency. why would the united states break from the gold standard in 1933? in 1944, world leaders designed a blueprint for a new international monetary order, a plan dependent upon the strength of the american dollar. what led to the collapse of the heralded bretton woods agreem

policy from the george washington and ministration until the reagan revolution and certainly with nafta calf to shaft to. kind of thing there are her a lot of ways to say you know i really don't think it's going to be in your best interest to move your manufacturing over to india. we're pretty much the only country these days the only developed country that doesn't either use some form of terror for some form of which can be reversible on the way out and double up along the way in as a functional tariff to protect marketplaces so get air we've got a comment or you know who just doesn't understand basic econ here's another one this is a vague just wondering what that living wage would be why not fifty dollars truly prices would rise to offset most real gains and many especially the unemployed which is suffer from the runaway inflation created good businesses are right by goodfellow it is called freedom actually tiredly wong so. again just wondering what that living wage would be fifty dollars well how about using teddy roosevelt's definition he came up with a with a living wage he in fac

policy from the george washington and ministration until the reagan revolution and certainly with nafta calf to shaft to. kind of thing there are three a lot of ways to say you know i really don't think it's going to be in your best interest to move your manufacturing over to india we're pretty much the only country these days the only developed country that doesn't either use some form of terror for some form of a vat tax which can be reversible on the way out and double up along the way in as a functional tariff to protect the marketplace. so you know again here we've got a comment or you know who just doesn't understand basic econ here's another one this is vague just wondering what that living wage would be why not fifty dollars truly prices would rise to offset most real gains and many especially the unemployed which is suffer from the runaway inflation created good business is a right but good fellow it is called freedom actually tiredly wong so. again just wondering what that living wage would be fifty dollars well how about using teddy roosevelt's definition he came up with a wi

it's been 20 years since nafta was intimate and there's been much discussion on this anniversary, both in the united states and in mexico. data application of nafta lead to what is occurring now in mexico, the opening of the energy sector to foreign investment? thank you. >> thank you. i was very young when nafta was -- [laughter] i will say that obviously we are looking for two elements that go in the same direction. in the near term, as i showed in the slide, we have had a decreasing production of oil, gas, gasoline and the petrochemicals. that created the need for the mexican government. the responsibility change a framework that we have. and secondly, of course we are interested in having a better economic integration in a way that allows us to compete on a fair basis. is our cost of gas and electricity are higher than those that are in the united states, we do not benefit -- mexico, we do not benefit the region. so we need to establish mechanisms to make the whole area competitive, and i think that this reform accomplishes both of those objectives. >> thank you spend i wish i coul

someone asked about nafta. i think this is an area where the nafta infrastructure is going to help the relationship between mexican small companies, medium-sized companies, small companies that provide services and equipment to the oil and gas industry in mexico during your venture with the u.s.. that is a huge area of growth to me, by the way. >> is important to remove her that we sit here in washington or houston say, we don't want the national content requirements to be too high because that will be a barrier to investment. we also don't want it to be too low because part of this goal -- if this is not just about oil and gas, it is about helping the mexican economy, about increasing competitiveness and adding jobs. if we want this to be sustainable in the long term, the mexican people need to feel a benefit from it. that is why i think it is incumbent upon both as is and government right now to work together to work out what would be a fair level of the national local content for the government and pemex in

it's not that they are against trade, they just don't want nafta on steroids with the pacific rim.they want different terms are they get the benefits of trade. and the thing that is then -- the biggest problem is the outcomes of the last fast track trade agreement with asia. so we heard all those same arguments around the korea agreement. >> 18 months into it, u.s. trade deficit with korea up 40%, not only did we get slammed with a tsunami of additional imports our experts dropped 8% so congress is looking at that and saying okay, using the multiplier, that's 40,000 more lost jobs. >> can we satisfy both earnest and lori? keep americans working and raise their pay and still be a dynamic trading nation with places where workers make a lot less money, and do a lot of the same jobs that americans aspire to do for less money? absolutely. >> how? >> and the way to doha is to be a trading nation, because the majority of the sectors in these countries that we are talking about, are sectors in which the u.s. has a competitive advantage, and can -- and has a competitive advantage and by exp

that was true before nafta and w.t.o.to rewrite those laws to conform to a rule that requires us to import things that are equivalent, determined by the other country. etc., etc., etc. now, what's up with fast track politically is directly related to the attack on congress' jurisdiction authority and the negative outcomes these trade agreements have had for the public. since nafta, fast track has become exceedingly unpopular. so after nafta passed, president clinton was unable to ever get fast track trade authority again. an important fact the congressional history is that actually congress, on a bipartisan majority in the house of representatives, voted down clinton's attempt to get fast track in 1998. he tried in 1997. didn't happen. he tried in 1998, 171 democrats and 71 republicans said i'm sticking with the founders. i'm not giving away my constitutional authority. and that was the end of president clinton having fast track. he had it only two of his eight years. but funny thing. the man implemented 130 trade agreeme

and wto and all these other nafta, shafta, all these new things, and go back to the fundmentals. we don't have to call up sweden, say, how do you run a country? we did this in this country. in fact, we've done it three times since 1776. we made three year cycles, and out of each one, we got better. we figured it out. it's all in the history book, and sometimes they remember it, who can actually tell you about it. that, i think, frankly, is the good news. the bad news is that the crash of 2008 has not ended, obama came into the office, stopped the bleeding, but none of the fundmentals changed, massive accumulation of wealth at the top, and ecosystem that is broadened and diversed, a jungle, a drod and diverse, strong and resilient, and ecosystem that's mono culture, a weak field of a single genetic species of wheat is vulnerable to locusts and drought. same with the economy. we have an economy where every single sector of the corporations at the most, and this is not healthy. this is not good. this is -- and so, anyhow, we have -- if we do these things, and then roll back the reag

it will be nafta on steroids. >> members of congress aren't supposed to tell you what they have read.all negotiations held behind closed coarse doors. american jobs have a new threat. >> what about the freedom of people to associate or join unions? that's not going to be amiss. >> this is not about union labor. this is about american labor. joining me tonight, congressman dan killedy of michigan. good to have you with us tonight. i know you're on record oh against the tpp. but this tweet caught my attention today. cbs network radio reporter, martin oler tweeted out from the white house today, that's his beat. he says that the white house says the tpp is, quote, critical for creating jobs, promoting growth, providing opportunity for american workers and promoting fair trade in asia and pacific. now, if that is where the white house stands and if that's where the president is, don't you think the country needs a little bit of definition of where all these jobs are going to come from? >> i think you're right. i mean, i've lived through this. i come from flint, michigan. and i remember th

we went to nafta. we give everything to the poor little chinese people.othing and for then why we had to get involved in the middle east. ,ere's my angst, dick cheney the great american air force, we've been protected twin towers iraq11 and we ended up in .nd wasted our troops god help us. host: i meant to leave it there. a lot fresher talk about. guest: judy, let me say hello to itself to line up. my family lived long time to feel a connection with you right over the air. i think what you are talking about is what a lot of people feel, which is an angst any concern that this country is somehow gone off-track in a lot of ways. there are people who are saying we are spending way too much on imperial spent too much on oversight. afghanistan, iraqi. why build bridges in kandahar? let's kill them in south carolina. -- let's build them in cap -- let's build them in south carolina. reflecting are something even broader, the feeling of being blocked, of not quite knowing where to go. a lot of people have lost faith in the government, lost faith in leadership. th

your laws in this is a direct threat to you now t p p is a much more expansive for instance that your nafta the north american free trade agreements three countries and largely have fortunately the u.s. has been the one who's companies are suing everyone else apart from the transpacific partnership agreement another giant agreement is now being negotiated between the e.u. and the q west and the u.s. congress has already made it clear that any agreement must reduce e.u. restrictions on genetically modified crops for example chlorinated chicken and hormone treated. what does this mean for your. this it would be a race to the bottom in their standards so there has been since nineteen ninety eight an attempt by the biggest u.s. and european corporations to use that sort of negotiations to roll back the strongest food safety environmental financial regulations things they could not get undone at home and so now it's a supreme being launched their. thinking finally will get rid of the dmo rules while many say these agreements will be passed the for agreed upon leave people completely to the mercy

how did during the nafta debate and telling the canadians not to sign so i think the ukrainian should make this decision themselves you know there are talks about sanctions to us could use against ukrainian government what are they is that action warranted i don't begin to action against ukraine is warranted no matter what decision it may and this is a decision again for the ukrainian government and the ukrainian people it has nothing to do with the vital interests of the united states and i would be opposed to my own government my own country imposing sanctions on the ukrainian government in people for decision which is their sovereign right so and i don't think the congress of the united states would would go along with sanctions i find that hard to believe you know like you said this is a choice that ukrainian people should make themselves and there is no one opinion on what path the crane should choose in your opinion what do you think can help them figure things out at this point. well i think the ukrainian joy to decide what really is in their own best interest i know a bit abou

look, everybody knows that the nafta model hasn't worked. most economists now, the vast majority are out, 80% say that the nafta model has lowered wages for middle-class workers. so if it is lowering wages where to look at a different model. tpp is geared to that same model. can it be a naked? can it be changed? can we get a different type of system in a different model? i hope so. [inaudible] spent if it's modeled after nafta, it a failed model so yes, we will oppose. i hope for the sake of the country that change and hope for the sake of america's workers that we actually get it right for a change. spent as we say goodbye, you have one other problem your the steelers are six and eight. spent you have to remind of that. breaking my heart. they are getting like me. i was out hunting and a look at the sun. the sun was setting but it was just above the mountain, below the trees that i thought me and that sun might have a lot in common. the same with the steelers. they might have a lot in common with that setting sun. i think they need to chang

went up for whatever value that had turned around and brought in the hundred ninety six telecom act nafta ended welfare as we knew it you know basically debts helped to began the decimation the real decimation of the safety net in this country began the real consolidation of the media in this country began the real shipping overseas of american jobs in this country and so great his numbers were up he was the best republican president we ever had was his numbers and obama's numbers are about as relevant in the same way what policies are as he actually trying to implement that we can look at the window when he had both houses of congress and we get in i have these are his ok chad point you had to have some point don at some point down we're going to we're going to let me speak but this is what your numbers are though. the homeowner to country is throw the bums out and particularly the republicans and twenty fourth seed there's an opportunity need to reset this whole political paradigm would be wooing of the congress as opposed to being so red and making the situation that policy can actuall

normally would ensure that you can pass your laws then this is a direct threat for instance on your nafta the north american free trade where it's three countries and largely and fortunately the u.s. has been the one who's companies are suing everyone else. so we can leagues we also know that t.p. pates plan to extend cocoa rights protection and indoors hardship penalties to internet providers they may face court cases if any pirated content ever appears on the networks this could all and with this trick chance to internet axes and sutton who works for a foundation which aims to defend internet freedom explains why she's against the potential trade. remains to be secret because really if it was shown in the sunlight and people were able to know what was in it then it really wouldn't be what sol arming is that several groups in washington d.c. have been talking about the copyright provisions that we've seen from a leak from february two thousand and eleven and we've been warning about provisions and how we would impact people's freedom of speech and privacy rights online and the u.s. conti

we haven't revealed that nafta but it was relationship that between the swedish defence review authority sra. and that their american counterparts. nsa. and according to documents. that if they have spied on spying on to the russian leadership and they are passing these information on. two nd essay there we got access to the stalk a mess thanks to anna in the snow done so far and we had gone to heaven there the tears more than that the documents are mentioning them. the faculty involved and unique the chileans faculty above classic. it really ends. and i also mentioning cables the spokesman of all if ray didn't give any comments but then edwin hacks asked about that being an unseen as the leading pop that's the way that david and spend it in in the stock a mess if ray is the leading off the head to an essay and then his face. ok the sweltering heat sinks so they thus the word in common too we have been received so far the message it was duncan campbell says sweetness is still really help the us with intelligence betraying the privacy of the citizens in neighboring states in the process i

government to be considered the employer of last resort according to the economic policy institute when nafta was signed into law by bill clinton in ninety four it was supposed to create two hundred thousand new jobs but instead as of two thousand and ten thanks to growing trade deficits and mexico after has helped to eliminate over six hundred eighty thousand american jobs in two thousand and ten when president obama signed into a chorus the u.s. korea free trade agreement the obama administration promised that that agreement would create and support at least seventy thousand american jobs but as that a.p.i. study points out in two thousand and eleven the u.s. trade deficit with south korea increased by over five billion dollars cost in the u.s. more than forty thousand jobs. meanwhile is so-called free trade agreements are wiping out american jobs in the private sector austerity is slashing jobs in the public sector. since june of two thousand and nine to republican fueled austerity measures seven hundred forty thousand americans have lost their jobs in the public sector and what's keeping

singles he then claimed silver in vancouver and is currently fighting to be fit for saatchi where nafta thinks she's russia's only podium hope in the men's event. i think it's going to be really hard for if gainey pollution i don't see anyone else really if he manages even third place it will be a major victory for him and for us i wish him every success in trying. meanwhile the countdown to the sochi twenty fourteen paralympics reach one hundred days on wednesday people gathered at the black sea resort to celebrate the milestone as well as catch a closeup glimpse of some of the two hundred sixteen paralympic medals girls live that. it's great not only one hundred days to go until the paralympic games as well but from celebrating we also decided to interview a park full of sculptures made by school kids with the help of professional sculptors it's not a little something we hope will make the olympic and paralympic winter games even more memorable. and those memories will start to be made in just over two months time as the first of such as two olympic tournament gets underway on februar

we haven't revealed that nafta but it deals with a huge hit that between the swedish defence review of port de f for eight and that their american counterparts. nsa. and according to documents. that if i have spied on spying owner of the russian leadership. and they are passing these information on two nd essay. there we got access to the stock a mess thanks to anna. it was no done so far and we had gone to heaven there the tears more than that the documents are mentioning them the faculty involved and unique. the chileans had to give up classic. it really ends and the oh so mentioning cables. the spokesman of all this rain didn't get any comments about them. edwin hacks asked about that being an unseen pass a leading hawk that that's the way that david and spend it in in the stock a mess if ray is the leading off the head to an essay and then his face ok the sweltering heat sinks so they thus the word in common too we have been received so far. while the swedish foreign minister has since collected on those allegations saying they would affect his country's relationship with russia. o

normally would ensure that you can pass your laws in this is a direct threat for instance on your nafta the north american free trade agreements three countries and largely have fortunately the u.s. has been the one who's companies are suing everyone else. well that brings up to date for the moment this is all to international because a report is coming your way a short break more news and off them. i was thinking somehow i had to come back because mom was waiting for me. and i just knew that everything would be fine for some reason they were so confident because we were going to get married officially after he came back how could he not come back because the mere thought of it never crossed her mind. when the militants decided to try and break through her screaming grenade. explosions blow them all run his back the rule. a little and it was all over all. we know that our call on our commander won't leave us no matter how tough it gets we're team. getting was a senior in his military trio. he knew that if he didn't smother that grenade with his body more of just comrades would die he ga

ah ha from the threat of sanctions if he goes to moscow nafta was his while unsuited then it might be interesting to know that. the bank accounts in general would not be open to any more for some craziness to open a questioning of the great government's credibility this government of ukraine has clearly discredited itself in terms of economic help from the e.u. the reaction of europe's officials to the dance of last month in ukraine has indeed made to reach cocktail they've effectively played pinball with ukraine's expectations some have expressed uncertainty about a future dialogue with kenya we're lacking a decision by ukraine's leader in a situation when ukraine's president says the offer is not good for his country we need to take a break and think it over. while other signal. political statements on twitter are not the best way to resolve the matter the best signal we could make is to tell you krane that our doors are still open for it. all this more explained the change from the sweet talk of many european leaders before the vilnius summit in november where president which had r