in to nafta. and i would say actually the labor, but i won't take up more time. left if ut 10 minutes you want to get your call in. republicans, 202-748-8001. democrats, 202-748-8000. independents, 202-748-8002. wait nothing newtown, pennsylvania, independent. ahead.o caller: good morning, thank you for taking my call. i have to comment on lack of of your callers this morning. the caller from washington, who the post ove past office that trump hotel in washington and saw nothing, but workers. guess what, the companies that bid on the hotel, they are the one, whoever won the bid are hiring mexican workers. why? because obama administration is not enforcing e-verify, that simple. trump's hotel, house tlt keeping services, you think he hires each individual person? no. that is outsourced. idded like ara services and companies like that, bid on housekeeping jobs. they are not using e-verify. if i could comment, the department of energy and the epa, guess what. started the department of wasgy, the goal

you know, what could be reflected in nafta, in the renegotiation of nafta, that would reflect donald trump's vion forrade and what it should be? >> i haven't spoken to him or his team about exactly where in nafta they would want to improve. i notice as he talks about these issues, he really talks about not so much withdrawing but going back and negotiating table, trying to make it a bigger win for the united states. we have a manufacturing surplus with the nafta countries. these relationships helped us. frankly, move through some worldwide recessions better than other free countries as well. look, i would encourage the president to take a look at parts of nafta, that looked right in the 1990s, that can be modernized today. my advice always, if you're going to renegotiate an agreement, is make it more free trade, be bolder about reducing tariffs in all directions, give us more economic freedom to sell what we're making here in america and buy the products, frankly, consumers want to buy as well. so if the approach he's going to take in nafta or tpp is to go bolder, to open more of tha

in to nafta. and i would say actually the labor, but i won't take up more time. left if ut 10 minutes you want to get your call in. republicans, 202-748-8001. democrats, 202-748-8000. independents, 202-748-8002. wait nothing newtown, pennsylvania, independent. ahead.o caller: good morning, thank you for taking my call. i have to comment on lack of of your callers this morning. the caller from washington, who the post ove past office that trump hotel in washington and saw nothing, but workers. guess what, the companies that bid on the hotel, they are the one, whoever won the bid are hiring mexican workers. why? because obama administration is not enforcing e-verify, that simple. trump's hotel, house tlt keeping services, you think he hires each individual person? no. that is outsourced. idded like ara services and companies like that, bid on housekeeping jobs. they are not using e-verify. if i could comment, the department of energy and the epa, guess what. started the department of wasgy, the goal

host: we talked about nafta this morning. a lot of our viewers brought up nafta. can donald trump leave nafta and how does that process work? guest: when we talk about things that have not been done before, this is the subject of many scholar's debates right now. there is a general consensus the president has wide latitude to do that. the president has been given trade promotion authority over the past several years, so he has the ability to negotiate agreements and then have them the house ore to senate for an up or down vote. and when he wants to leave the agreements, people are in agreement that he could do that and not have any need for congressional approval in that area. host: michelle jamrisko is our guest for the next 45 minutes. if you want to join the conversation, if you have questions republicans, , (202)-748-8001. democrats, (202)-748-8000. independents (202)-748-8002. michelle jamrisko covers trade policy. how long have you been covering this issue? guest: it is within the u.s. economic portfolio and trade is becoming much more a part of it. so a few

a 32% rise since nafta began. nafta was written in the 1990s. the nature of trade has changed substantially mostly due to the internet an the digital economy. modern trade agreements like tpp address 21st trade issues such as e-commerce and state-owned enterprises and small businesses and global supply chains. all these improvements, plus others in the areas of labor and environment are included in tpp. if president-elect trump wants to improve nafta, we recommend he start with these types of provisions, many of which have already been agreed to by mexico and canada as part of tpp the new administration may want to address the advantage that mexican exporters receive on all their exports to the united states. we don't have similar rebates on kofrpt taxes made on u.s. made goods. this puts our exports at a serious disadvantage. nafta could be updated and strengthened as noted. withdrawal is another matter entirely. there are a myriad of reasons why that would be catastrophic for the u.s. economy. the main one is the nature of american supply chai

how will trade deals like nafta be dismantled? donald trump is intent on doing so. >> i don't think we can do that. and a half face not going to be dismontled. it's too complex in the supply chain. you can't make cars when parts are made all over the place. there is nothing about e-commerce and energy. we need trump to negotiate and show us the art of the deal. we have to take all the crap out of and a half tam. if we updated it and made it work for america. america is a business. let's have our big negotiator, king trump come in there and start by saying i'm going to rip it up. david: president trump, please. we don't want king trump. when donald trump went to mexico and met with the president of mexico, it made him look presidential. it helped his image and the mexican president got in there before any other foreign leader did. so there is a possibility of a negotiation process with nafta and the wall. >> i kind of agree. i think nafta is wild think complicated. i don't think you need to discard this trade treaty. what we need t

nafta makes u.s. one of the most attractive manufacturing locations in the world because of value added productivity of canada and mechanic in one integrated north american supply chain. if we could complete free trade agreements with asia and europe, the u.s. could, in fact, become the undisputed champion in manufacturing once again. withdrawal from nafta would have massive repercussions. thousands of u.s. companies would have to ship their supply chains at great cost and disruption to their businesses. americans should understand that pulling out of nafta does not ensure that production in mexico would come back to the united states. in fact, it's possible that many u.s. manufacturers would either find suppliers in other countries or use mexican production to export to other markets because mexico has 40 plus free trade agreements, double our level. we've talked about tpp and nafta but we haven't mentioned the huge economy that's part of neither of those agreements, china. u.s./china relationship is

nafta makes the u.s. of the most attractive manufacturing locations in the world because of value-added productivity of both canada and mexico in one integrated north american supply chain. if we could complete freed trade agreements with asia and europe the u.s. could, in fact, become the undisputed champion in manufacturing once again. withdrawal from nafta would have massive repercussions, thousands of u.s. companies would have to ship their supply chains at great cost and disruption to their businesses. americans should understand that pulling out of nafta does not ensure that production in mexico would come back to the united states. in fact, it's possible that many u.s. manufacturers would either find suppliers in other countries or use mexican production to export to other markets because mexico has 40 plus free trade agreements, double our level. we've talked about tpp and nafta, but we haven't mentioned the huge economy that is part of neither of those agreements, china. u.s./china relationship i

nafta is working. but for some reason the americans don't want to talk about it.because the understandings have been so bad in public, we have an incoming president who has used the argument reflecting public opinion as a wedge issue in getting elected. he may be open to some arguments that you will have presented. if you had 50 minutes to talk to mr. trump, what would you tell him -- 15. >> or a tweak even. [laughter] >> no one wants to go first? >> first i would not tell that i worked for ustr for 30 years. [laughter] i think one of the points that ken made earlier, that's what i thought he he would go first, is let's look at the facts and let's have a review and let's look at what these agreements do and what they don't do. yoyou know, one of the unfortune things about tpp for example, if it was concluded and the middle of a presidential campaign season. that was not the plan. we were going to concluded a lot earlier but we were great negotiator and we knew the deal that was on the table to your earlier wasn't the one we were prepared to take on. so we waited,

. >> so tell me about nafta. what do you want to change about nafta? >> well i think the right way to negotiate nafta is in conference rooms with mexico and canada, not, frankly, in the press room. >> okay, that's a fair point, but you know, a lot of people worry, businesses in particular, that if we're going to see pulling out of tpp, looking at nafta, changing nafta, looking at anything else that may not make sense, is it too much at once? will it create disruption as opposed to growth? >> first of all, it isn't a question of pulling out of tpp. tpp does not exist. >> right. >> it's a fiction of people's imagination at this point. >> obama wanted to push it until the last days in office. come on. >> it's especially a figment of his imagination. my point is it's hard to say there's disruption when you don't do something you weren't doing anyway. >> what about nafta? >> it needs to be fixed but not fixed with blowing up the whole world. mexico is not going to go to zero, canada is certainly not going to go to zero but there are changes needed and i thi

nafta is working. for some reason the americans don't want to talk about it. because the understandings have been so bad in the public, we have an incoming president who has used the argument reflecting public opinion as a wedge issue in getting elected. he may be open to some arguments that you all have presented, if you had 50 minutes to talk to mr. trump, what would you tell him? >> -- 15. >> or a tweet even. [laughter] >> no one wants to go first. >> first, i wouldn't tell them him i work for ustr for 30 years. i think one of the points made earlierearlier, that's what i tt he would go first, is let's look at the facts and let's have a review and let's look at what these agreements do and what they don't do. you know, one of the unfortunate things about tpp, for example, is that it was concluded in the middle of a presidential campaign season. that was not the plan. we were going to concluded a lot earlier but we were great negotiators and we knew the deal that was on the table two years earlier wasn't one we were prepared to take home. so we waited, okay?

our country has lost one third of its manufacturing jobs since nafta. we have lost thousands of factories since china joined the world trade organization. 70,000 factories we have lost, can you believe it? it is hard to believe. i thought it was a typo. it is the greatest jobs test -- theft in the history of the world. we are going to turn it around fast, faster than you think. we are not going to be taken advantage of by other countries anymore. right? [applause] our goal is to bring back that wonderful phrase, remember some of you that are a little bit older, made in the usa? remember that? we used to have on the cards, made in the usa. we're going to start putting, made in the usa, right? what do you like better? made in the usa or made in america? hold it. "usa"]ng >> usa, usa. mr. trump: ready, who like made in america? who likes made in the usa? [cheers] mr. trump: i think so. like one more, this is doing a vote. a lot of people would spend $1 million for that. these are the people that letter country -- led our country. they would do a poll that

the countries like china that they have brought concerns, for example about what would happen with naftabecause let's remember a lot of the countries have moved production to mexico and they would be affected by nafta so i would say why all the panelists speaking at a different regions, there is a lot of overlap with respect to the impact of any measures taken on trade through the whole global trading system. also they want a stable relationship and this isn't just trade, its overall but remember for many countries, china is the biggest trading partner maybe the u.s. is second for certain countries but they feel they will be in the middle if there is any back and forth in terms of retaliation or measures between the two countries. finally i would say like anyone in the community they are waiting to see who will be on the team not just at the most senior level that the deputy levels and others. i want to talk a little about how the countries are responding to the recent announcement that the u.s. will withdraw kind of on day number one of his administration. they feel they did a lot of he

nafta? what is it? >> we're working out the fine point details, but nafta is a large part of his campaign. it's a starting point. >> so trump rallied against nafta and nearly every rally. we're rolling -- will rolling back nafta help bring jobs back to the u.s. >> most of the studies who looked at nafta said it's a small plus net in terms of jobs. other jobs have been gained. it didn't sound like wilbur ross was a huge enthusiastic backer of ripping up that trade agreement. he said they'd take a look at it. like a lot of the clear promises on the campaign trail, there is a period in this presidential transition where some of the rougher edges are getting sanded off. and it is a republican party that was really at odds with donald trump on a lot of these big issues. i think he's finding it's hard to find nationalist populist republicans. trump is one of the few in the party that believes what he believes, and i think a lot of these people coming in are not totally in sync with him on some of the big issu

should rip up the north american free trade agreement known as nafta.e also talked about slapping a 35% tax on mexican-made vehicles imported into the u.s. and now as phil lebeau reports, we're getting some fresh analysis on how much that would drive up auto costs and possibly hurt the auto economy. >> reporter: mexican auto plants are running at a record pace. since 2009, the number of cars and trucks built south of the border has soared, and will soon top 4 million. with almost half of those being shipped up to the u.s. that bothers donald trump. and he wants automakers to build more in the u.s. even threatening to slap a 35% tax on mexican-made vehicles. what would happen if the president-elect did that? the center for automotive research estimates the cost of the average vehicle built in mexico would jump almost $6500, which would lead to almost a half million fewer vehicles being sold in the u.s., and potentially the loss of 6700 auto industry jobs. >> once donald trump takes a look at the numbers, he will find a way out of -- to wiggle out of this

last but not least, kenneth smith almost as the head of trade at the nafta office of the ministry ofthe economy of mexico in washington dc and prior to serving in his current post he was corded or general for international affairs and a mexican ministry of agricultural life stop, world of element and food and previously worked at it mexican federal competition commission at the ministry of economy. he started his professional career working from mexico's nafta negotiating team and is a fellow board member here. without further delay i'm going to turn the panel over-- i guess the microphone over to wendy. >> thank you so much, steve. thank you for turning out this morning. i just learned about the january 10, event with my former boss. i can't wait for that events. that should be interesting. this morning i went to share with you kind of what i'm hearing from asia. i'm just back from asia. i'm in daily contact with my new position with former asian trade officials, current trade officials and other opinion leaders in the area, so i wanted to share with you kind of their perspective, r

you've lost more than 40% of your automobile jobs since nafta was here. think of it. 40%. if i wasn't elected. 40%, you wish you had 40% two years from now. you wish. you would have gotten much worse. plenty of deals are going on, and we did a great job with carrier with the help of mike pence, we did a great job. but -- but, you got to understand, we got to the table a little late. they already built their factory in mexico and lots of things and saved a tremendous number of jobs, and the rest have to be prepared, carrier and everybody else, when they make the air conditioners or whatever they're making, i think they're going to make pumps, not air conditioners, one is going to be air conditioners, we left them back here, and other companies, they have to pay a tremendous tax to get that product back into this country. [cheers] the point is the jobs that are gone i think they'll be coming back soon, too. it used to be the cars were made in flint, and you couldn't drink the water in mexico. now the cars are made in mexico and you can't drink the water in flint. we're going

he does not support nafta. he would renegotiate nafta. and he was to bring jobs back to this country. that caught on with a lot of people who have been hurt by bad trade policies. and so i think we have got to be very careful in going back in that direction, when so many people objected to that kind of movement. keith was against that, he was against tpp. he wants to empower workers. hold thee have got to president accountable for the things he said regarding -- hold the president-elect accountable for the things he said regarding nafta and objections to tpp, objections to fast-track. we will have to hold him accountable because i'm not convinced people within his own party believe he is -- believe the rhetoric he is espousing. hey, wended up saying, are going to support him. with all the flaws that exist and the kinds of negative things he says and the divisiveness of supportaign, we will him because he says he will change something that affects our lives directly. susan: let me ask you a final question about health care. the affordable

with regard to the nafta and what will happen.as i have said, mexico is willing and ready to engage in a constructive dialogue with the incoming administration. we favor the possibility of having discussions along the lines of how we strengthen the nafta, how we modernize that along the lines of what i mention. their disciplines that did not exist when nafta was negotiated and that has to be taken into consideration to bring up the agreement to the requirements of the 21st century economy, it's a reality in fact and that's how we operate in all the trade agreements that were negotiated. it's impossible to think that you can simply extrapolate what we have negotiated and other agreements in bringing exactly as it is into the north american region. you have to look at the specific peculiarities of the region. in terms of the timeline, of course we are working on analyzing what elements can be strengthened. were going through a process of internal consultation both with the private sector, civil society arising within the ministry of

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you know, will it matter who is negotiating nafta if they are negotiating nafta? i'm not completely sure that is a compelling argument for democrats if he is doing the things that the new base of his want him to do. >> the jury is still out. the wealthyest cabinet in modern history. these are the people to make america great again? >> he wants winners. he sees these people on his team. you look at steve mnuchin and wilbur ross. they are savvy investors. he worked around the world in all kinds of companies. he knows how the system works. he has been critical of what he calls stupid and dumb trade deals in the past. you know, trump has surrounded himself with what he considers winners. those winners happen to be billionaires. >> the process continues. >> come back. get a cup of coffee. we'll talk more. >>> north carolina police officer will not face charges leading to protests and arrests overnight on the streets of charlotte. we are updating this as "early start" continues. .mstud if my office becomes a plane or an airport the... ...surface pro's perfect. fast and

one reason why nafta was a boon to the u.s.stry is because we were getting killed by the japanese. and nafta permitted some of the costs to be diluted, especially for tier one and tier two suppliers. and if we slap any kind of large tariff on mexico productions, it will simply be -- as phil pointed out, he forgot to mention japan, japan would once again inundate the american market with cars. and, look, trump is a reasonable, good analytical businessman. once he takes an earnest look at the pluses and minuses of dealing with nafta, sees what the impact on american jobs and, by the way, a lot of the mexican assembled units contain a very, very vast majority of u.s. made mechanical components like engines and transmissions that are exported from the united states. and we also export cars to mexico and to canada. so my guess is if he wants to look at unfair trade, he said he's for fair trade, for free trade, but has got to be fair, he would need to look at the germans before anything else because we have a 10% tariff going into th

but, you know, in the course of renegotiating nafta, there a -- or agreeing to renegotiate nafta, there was an agreement that border security is critical and important. we'll have those conversations, but you think about the enormous amount of commerce that flows over that border. there's a whole lot of ways and i'm absolutely confident that our president-elect is going to keep his promise to the american people. we're going to secure the border. we're going to build the wall. we're going to end illegal immigration once and for all, and we'll find a neighbors pay for it. >> obamacare, you mentioned that. "the new york times" reporting that you're working with congressional leaders on the strategy to repeal immediately but then delay the replacement. in that "60 minutes" interview right after the election, president-elect trump said they were going to be done simultaneously. why the change? >> well, i'm not aware there is change. >> so this repeal and delay strategy is not what you're working on? >> we're working on president-elect trump's commitment to repeal and replace obamacare. it's

and a ha nafta is a good starting point. >> so trump rallied against nafta at nearly every rally. will roll back nafta help bring jobs back to the u.s.? >> the most studies that have looked at and a hanafta saying small net plus in terms of loss of jobs, other jobs have been gained. it didn't sound like wilbur ross was a huge enthusiastic backer of ripping up that trade agreement. he did not sound like donald trump when talking about it. he said he would take a look at it. like a lot of the clear promises on the campaign trail, there is a period in the presidential transition where some of the rougher edges are getting sanded off and as a republican party that was really at odds with donald trump and a lot of the big issues, i think what he's finding is most -- it's hard to find nationalists, pop you list republicans trump is one of the few in the party that believes what he believes. and i think a lot of these people come in are not totally in sync with him on the big issues like trade. >> kevin madden, to you now. i want to talk about this secretary of state job. still don't hav

all i can tell you is that nafta is a disaster. what difference does it make? we will fix nafta, or we'll terminate it and start all over again. [ applause ] america has lost 70,000 factories. hard to believe. i always say that's a typo. 70,000 factories since china joined the world trade organization. think of it. in the year 2000, america had nearly 20 million manufacturing jobs in the rust belt, okay? today we have only 12.3 million manufacturing jobs left in the rust belt. we're going to bring them back. we're going to bring them back. [ applause ] we're going to bring them back. the rust belt has been hammered, and one of the reasons i won. it's one of the reasons i won. ohio, as an example, is down from 1.2 million manufacturing jobs in the year 2000 to only 690,000 jobs today. not going to happen anymore, folks. or take michigan. they're down from 900,000 manufacturing jobs in the year 2000 to only 600,000 manufacturing jobs today. i see these numbers and it's sad. but what isn't sad because this is all about hope, but it's real hope because we're going

remember a lot of ages and countries have moved some production to mexico and would be affected by nafta. i would say while this panel we are speaking about different regions, there's a lot of overlap with respect to the impact of any measures taken on trade through the whole global trading system. also, they want a stable u.s.-china relationship and this isn't just trade. it's kind of overall. in the trade arena, for many countries china is their biggest trading partner. maybe the u.s. i can't. but they feel that they will be in the middle if there is any back-and-forth in terms of retaliation are measures between the two countries. finally, i would say like everyone in the trade community, they are waiting to see who will be on the trade team and not just at the most senior level, but the deputy levels and other officials. what i want in my remaining minutes as he talked a little about tpp and how it asian countries are responding to president-elect trump's recent announcement that the u.s. will withdraw from tpp kind of on day one of the administration. there is a lot of concern. the

we will fix nafta or we'll terminate it and start all over again. america has lost 70,000 factories. hard to believe. i always say that is a typo. 70,000 factories. since china joined the world trade organization. in the year 2000 america had nearly 20 million manufacturing jobs in the rust belt. okay? today we have only 12.3 million manufacturing jobs left in the rust belt. we're going to bring them back. we're going to bring them back. we're going to bring them back. the rust belt has been hammered. and one of the reasons i won -- one of the reasons i won. ohio as an example is down from 1.2 million manufacturing jobs in the year 2000 to only 690,000 jobs today. not going to happen anymore, folks. or take michigan. they are down from 900,000 manufacturing jobs in the year 2000 to only 600,000 manufacturing jobs today. i see these numbers and it's sad. but what isn't sad, because this is all about hope. but it is real hope because we are going to turn that around so fast. and we don't want ford leaving and going to mexico to build its small cars. w

we will fix nafta or we will terminate it and start all over.plause] america has lost 70,000 factories, hard to believe. i always say that's a typo. 70,000 factories since china joined the world trade organization. think of it. in the year 2000, america had nearly 20 million manufacturing jobs in the rust belt. today we have only 12.3 million manufacturing jobs left in the rust belt. we are going to bring them back. we are going to bring them back. [applause] we are going to bring them back. the rust belt has been hammered and one of the reasons i won, it's one of the reasons i won. ohio is an example. it's down from 1.2 million manufacturing jobs in the year 2000 to only 690,000 jobs today. it's not going to happen anymore, folks. or take michigan, they are down from 900,000 manufacturing jobs in the year 2000 to only 600,000 manufacturing jobs. i see these numbers and it's sad that what isn't sad because this is all about hope and it's real hope because we are going to turn it around so fast. [applause] mr. trump: and we don't want ford leavin

nafta can stand a great deal of that. in particular, he spoke about frankly what bill clinton spoke about when he was pushing nafta. that's been a lost opportunity. and saying that we can restructure nafta to benefit all three countries. i want to make one more very important point. when folks like jimmy who i respect tremendously, when they talk about chilling effects and american politicians we have a big population of folks that we call corporate lobbiests and the state of u.s. regulation and the state of the american tax code today very powerfully reflects the very important leverage that these well paid lobbiests have. they have in lots of cases written those tax codes to benefit their companies. >> steve, you want to answer that? >> i want a neutral tax code and talking nothing about american entrepreneurship. >> we are talking about sweeping changes. until that is made i think we have to be realistic also in recognizing that foreign governments rig trade flows all the time and it is high time that the u.s. governme

north carolina has lost nearly half of its manufacturing jobs since nafta. america has lost 70,000 factories. think of it, 70,000 factories since joining the world trade organization. so china joins the world trade organization, and since that time, we've lost so much. 70,000 factories. we're living through the greatest jobs theft in the history of the world. there's never been a jobs theft like what's happened to this country. >> so, david, even before taking office, donald trump is showing a strong man approach to governing, but how will that play on the world stage? will it be effective? >> we'll have to wait and see. clearly he's caught up to putin and he seems to think that's going pretty well. i think the big surprise is how tough he's been on china. we don't know the chinese response has gradually ratcheted up over the last 48 to 72 hours. so now that it looks like he really got their attention, you know, what he seems to do, don, as he did with boeing today in his tweet and he did with -- he's done with others. he picks up a board and smacks somebody

. >> we'll renegotiate nafta. he's already made that clear. got an agreement from president pena nieto to do that and put on the table all the tools that will take away advantages that have been pulling up stake, leaving american workers behind and then creating products, shipping them back into the sfludz how do you handle that as governor of indiana. the happy workers at carrier, those jobs were saved a mile down the road 300 workers at re rexnord losing their jobs and now that company subject to a tariff. >> the way you handle that is we advance policies that are going to apply to everybody. equally. these multinational corporations have had in moving jobs overseas now for decades but we're also going to improve the economic environment here in the united states. we're simply with this businessman who's become president will take that oath of office on january the 20th. we're going to work with the congress to lower taxes, roll back regulations, repeal and replace obamacare and simply make the kind of changes in a broad range of areas inclu

our country has lost one third of its factory jobs since nafta. we have lost 70,000 factories since china opened and joined the world trade organization. 70,000 factories we have lost. can you believe that? is hard to believe. it's the greatest jobs that in the history of the world but we are going to get them back. we are going to turn it all around and we are going to turn it around faster than you think. we are not going to be taking advantage of why other countries anymore. [applause] our goal is to bring back that wonderful phrase. remember some of you that are a little bit older, made in the usa. remember that? made in the usa. we used to have cars that were made in the usa. we don't have that anymore. we are going to make stuff made in the usa. what do you like better, made in the usa or made in america? hold it, hold it. [chanting] usa, usa, usa. read the? who likes made in america? [applause] who likes made in the usa? [applause] i think so. okay, wait. one more because this is like doing a free poll. you know a lot of people would spend

he wants to renegotiate nafta. and get a better deal for the americans.not think that renegotiating is an issue. i think it can be best for both. erik: how? carlos: first, i think the u.s. should protect some of their strategic deals and goods that aggregate value. i do not understand how can be produced low products with the high wages, wages of $30 an hour. that is what they pay against $15 a day. that is a big difference. i think that these issues will not be competitive and they tried to do that. the cost for the american people will be too high and the consumer will pay too much for everything and i do not think 300 million people be happy paying so much and having a big inflation. one of the things that is the priority of the united states, is the interest of the people. and the interest of the people is to have good jobs but also to have good prices on the things they are buying. erik: your attitude toward of the trump presidency is perhaps more optimistic than some people might have thought. does his election -- carlos: i would be more worried as

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ohio lost 1/3 of its manufacturing jobs since nafta. you know the nice part? now i don't have to say signed by bill clinton and approved by hillary. who cares. all i can tell you is nafta is a disaster were what difference does it make? we'll fix nafta or terminate it and start all over again. america has lost 70,000 factories. hard to believe. i always say that's a typo. 70,000 factories since chain a joined the world trade organization. think of it. in the year 2000, america had nearly 20 million manufacturing jobs in the rust belt. okay? today we have only 12.3 million manufacturing jobs left in the rust belt. we are going to bring them back. we are going to bring them back. we are going to bring them back. the rust belt has been hammered. and one of the reasons i won. it's one of the reasons i won. ohio as an example is down from 1.2 million manufacturing jobs in the year 2000 to only 690,000 jobs today. not going to happen anymore folks. or take michigan. they are down from 900,000 manufacturing jobs in the year 2000 to only 600,000 manufacturing jobs tod

words. >> yeah, there's no nafta plague. and there may be no nafta when he gets done with it. that's one of the first things they're going to look at. they're going to look at what they need to fix it or change it. >> we'll see whether or not he's able to carry that out. those ohio voters are hoping that he is. that is one of the reasons he actually won that state. will he be able to do for them what he was able to do for a thousand workers in carrier in indiana. >> there are tens of thousands of jobs pack being up, factory floors closing right now today, moving to mexico and other places. and the question will be what is the broader policy of the united states to keep those from going. the president can call up. he can call up ceos, but can you call every ceo. >> right. >> and how can you compete when you have those carrier workers making $30 an hour and $30 an hour is the wage in mexico. >> it's a policy in place for a reason. >> have a great weekend. isn't it fun having will on the set? don't tell john berman, but it's re

. -- manufacturing jobs since nafta. we have lost 70,000 factories.his last month i was talking about it, i always say it is a , typo, you mean 700 factories? 70,000 factories since china joined the world trade organization. think of what 70,000 factories is. job best ineatest the history of the world. no state has been hurt worse by our trade deals than the state of michigan. that is why i was going to win michigan. that is why i knew i was going to win. and the car industry, it will come roaring back. they will come roaring back and you will be happy. you have lost more than 40% of your automobile jobs since nafta was approved. think about it, 40%. i tell you what -- if i was not elected, you would wish 40% two years from now. it would have gotten much worse. plenty of deals are going on. we did a great job for carrier with the help of mike pence. we did a great job, but, you have to understand we got to , that table a little bit late. they already had built their factory in mexico and lots of other things. and yet, we saved a tremendous number of j