nahid bhadelia. dr. bhadelia, welcome back to "meet the press." i can't shake this fact, dr. bhadelia -- the president gets diagnosed with the virus, and within 24 hours, is hospitalized. that is not the experience of most covid patients. >> good morning, chuck. yeah, the president currently is 1 of 30,000 americans who are hospitalized, which really is raising the point that none of us are immune to this, and it's not in silver bullets, such as only testing or only medications, but really, the whole measure of mitigation steps that are required. everybody's course in covid is different, and it's really hard for me to comment, not knowing his own case, because he is high risk for the reasons that others have talked about, with his age, with the fact that he's a male, you know, with his obesity. but it is a bit -- generally, the course that we see is that it is from five to seven days after symptom onsets is when you generally have a median whf people develop respiratory symptoms, might see a drop in oxygen. his course may have been faster, or they may have moved him. it seems

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nahid bhadelia, medical director of the special pathogens unit at boston medical center. dr. what do you make of the trends we're seeing right now? what's most concerning? >> stephanie, i think there is the pandemic fatigue that others have talked about. you know, and also this confusion about what are united actions should be. the masking, the physical distancing, reducing the crowd size. there's also a potential there's an element of seasonality of this virus. the things that protect us, maybe gave us a slight advantage over this summer. the number of hours of uv light we had or the fact it was more humid. less humidity, dry weather. less light tends to make this virus be able to transmit a lot more as we move indoors. that's one part of it. but the thing that concerns me is that we have 50 different outbreaks going on. every state is sort of battling this on their own. but -- and even in situations where there's similar conditions. they have different approaches. south dakota has the highest per capita cases in the world, and they have no mask mandate. and here in massachu

nahid bhadelia. she is an nbc news and msnbc medical contributor.for getting up early with us, because i think there are so many questions that have come out of what we learned and didn't learn over the weekend. let's start with this masks-optional situation. i think for many americans, certainly who work at big companies, that's not what's going on. should the white house implement a mask policy, in your opinion? >> yeah, kasie, i think we only have to look so far as most workplaces in the country have done this, partly because cdc guidance is that, indoors, it is much harder to keep that distance when you're in enclosed spaces and the ventilation is not as good. so, i would definitely recommend that. and you only have to look as far as what happened this saturday, you know. we've had a white house that's been heavily reliant on testing, which is an important part this. the testing helped them quickly pick up people who have been infected, but because others around them were not wearing masks and were not observing the physical distance, the presen

nahid bhadelia. i can't shake this fact, dr. bhadelia, the president gets diagnosed with the virus and in 24 hours is hospitalized. that is not the experience of most covid patients. >> good morning, chuck. yes, the president is currently one of 130,000 americans who are hospitalized and that raises the point this is not a silver bullet, the testing, it's just acquired. everybody's course in covid is different. and it's hard for me to comment not knowing his case because he's high risk, the fact with his age and he's a male and with his obesity. but it is a bit -- generally the course we see is that it's five to seven days after symptom onsets, is you generally have a median when people develop symptoms, might see a drop of oxygen. his course may have been faster or they may have moved him. seems like there was an event friday, clearly there was an event friday that led to a decompensation. it was either he potentially needed supplemental oxygen that drove them to take him to the hospital. it may be a combination the fact he's a

nahid bhadelia. greatly appreciate it. coming up, the president returns to what is in effect a coronavirus hot spot. known elsewhere as the people's house. where there is great unease among those few remaining on the job during an outbreak of coronavirus. we'll ask two political veterans about the fallout from this medical drama there. >>> and later, the president tells americans further not to fear covid-19. he's telling us to get back out there and open society back up. we'll run that notion past a noted infectious disease expert. all of it as "the 11th hour" is just getting under way on this back to work monday night. day n. robinhood believes now is the time to do money. without the commission fees. so, you can start investing today wherever you are - even hanging with your dog. so, what are you waiting for? download now and get your first stock on us. robinhood. a livcustomizeper iquickbooks for me. okay, you're all set up. thanks! that was my business gi, this one's casual. get set up right with a live bookkeeper wit

nahid bhadelia, an infectious disease physician and medical director of the special pathogens unit at boston medical center. let's start with president trump this morning saying he doesn't believe he's contagious at all. and we know at this point, at least 28 people who are expected to the white house or the campaign have also contracted the virus. is he not contagious at this point? >> stephanie, great point. so what the cdc says is that for mild and moderate cases people are contagious for at least ten days from the onset of illness. if you had more severe disease and received -- potentially immuno compromised or receive medications that may suppress your immune system, that may affect the amount of time you're shedding that virus. under cdc guidance, the president would still be considered as contagious and potentially dangerous for transmission to others. >> so we would not be allowed to go to school, work, but the president thinks he should be on a debate stage and the campaign trail. he also claimed he's been cured. watch this. >> so we have these drugs, eli lilly and the others

nahid bhadelia, an nbc news contributor. i'd like to hear what questions come to your mind given the fact that the president and his wife both have been diagnosed with covid-19. i'm specifically interested in any questions you may have about the debate and the potential need for anyone or everyone who was at the debate to quarantine, their risk of exposure? >> good morning, what a morning to wake up to. with everyone else i want to wish the president and the first lady a speedy recovery and hopefully no further complications from covid-19. in this scenario what i'm hoping is happening behind the scenes you mentioned contact tracing. the first 24 hours after you discover someone has a positive test are the most integral. you don't want to miss the missed contact because if they become sick and you don't catch them they have the infection and spread it to others. what's happening probably behind the scenes is the contact tracing backwards. looking to see where ms. hicks and the president and others were exposed. because it's n

nahid bhadelia. i have to say when i saw the john snow reference, i thought it was a game of thrones situation. is there any other country that you're aware of that is pushing herd immunity? >> thanks very much. john snow is named after the person who staved off the situation in europe. they'd said, okay, let's protect the vulnerable and let everyone else get sick. even sweden reduced the size of the gatherings that they had, and they realized at the end it led to one of the highest death rates in that region and swede season nothing like the united states where nay have universal health care and greater levels of better health at base line because of their public health system being better. even they stepped back on that. what is the great declaration proponent that proponents are says is you let everybody get this infection, and there are certain things as you mentioned already that are faulty in that perception. there's no science or report that we're close to that. to get close to that so many wo

nahid bhadelia, the director of special pathogens at boston medical center. phil rucker and carol, i want to start with both of you. phil, what do we know about how frequently the president is in contact with his staff. how recent are the most recent updates that his symptoms remain mild? >> well, nicolle, we don't have any update beyond what mark meadows told reporters several hours ago this morning about the president's mild symptoms. our reporting shows that the president has been in touch with some staffers, some advisers and friends this morning by phone. i'm not sure if he has seen any staff in person. certainly a number of his aides reported to work at the white house and are at the white house today. we should point out that it is now 4:00 in the afternoon on friday, and we have notice detailed information about the president's health condition. there has been no public briefing by his doctor. there has been no public briefing by any members of his staff to provide in detail what those symptoms are, what his temperature might be, any development beyon

nahid bhadelia, an msnbc medical contributor. good to see you. so we have been watching this from the political perspective. i'm curious what you thought watching it from a medical and a public health perspective. >> well, willie, good morning. i think that i was hoping at least to get some acknowledgment from the president about the fact that we are at the precipice now of the trend that we have been worried about with the fall and winter. you mentioned the increase in cases, almost 40 something states are reporting increasing hospitalizations, you know, and their increase -- we know how this goes. cases lead to hospitalizations, hospitalizations lead to states. well 20 something states are reporting increasing deaths over the last 14 days. so we're in that period that we have been worried about and when americans go out today and during the last two weeks before this election, they're making two types of choices. they're making the choices at the polls but they're making the choices in their life, in terms of do i wear a mask or not. you know,