nancy pelosi and charlie rangel.e into power and she said she's going to drain the swamp of the corruption in washington. >> right. >> charlie rangel in today's "washington post," sorry, charlie, charlie rangel must go. the speak her of the house must release him of his chairmanship duties. he is tax cheat and yet he is responsible for writing the tax laws of the united states of america. i don't care if you are a liberal or conservative. you are not bothered by that? >> no, i am not because nancy pelosi called for an ethics committee investigation of him and as an american, until you are proven guilty, no i am not bothered. >> we are not talking about criminal action. we are talk being the chairmanship of a committee. you don't think that the appearance of impropriety has been so stark when it comes to charlie rangel that this should indicate that he is no longer fit for the office of chairmanship at the very least. you think what he has done is ok? >> i am saying we need to wait for results, to see what -- >> did y

. -- nancy pelosi. she warned that the passionate debate over health care and other issues could actually lead to violence right here in the u.s.. >> i have concerns about some of the language that is being used because i saw this myself in the late 1970's in san francisco, this kind of rhetoric was very frightening and it created a climate in which we -- violence took place. sean: so i guess if you disagree with president obama and the democrats you are either racist or guilty. inciting preliminary violence. joining me to weigh in, kimberly guilfoyle and kirsten powers. first it's an act of desperation. reckless, irresponsible and a lot of this is coming because of the falling poll numbers. your take? >> i find it to be inflammatory and i really am offended by it because it's belittling of the american people who are exercising therefore rights and freedom of speech. this isn't about racism or whether or not you like president obama. it's an outright rejection of the abuse of spending all of our taxpay

for example of nancy pelosi is doing something at ridges, say today at noon every but he kit nancy pelosi'soffice with a phonecall or e-ml and you can imagine 100,000 people, five and a thousand people. what the government, we can move heaven and earth for the wind american people understand the power of social media and everybody is simultaneously of their own free will asking their representatives to take action. there is not an elected official in the nation at could withstand that and it would literally we the people will take back our government onc these tools become readily available, once people understand how easy this is. >> you were on the forefront but u think barack obama's campaign in victory brought more tention to the idea of ts? >> certainly was a great help that the obama campaign use the social media so aggressively. i think it's tragic they have reneged on every campaign promise they have made. the obama cpaign promise to be transparent. that is not happen. he promised he would never sign a bill that was not the internet for a least five hours. thatas false because every

. -- nancy pelosi. she warned that the passionate debate over health care and other issues could actually lead to violence right here in the u.s.. >> i have concerns about some of the language that is being used because i saw this myself in the late 1970's in san francisco, this kind of rhetoric was very frightening and it created a climate in which we -- violence took place. sean: so i guess if you disagree with president obama and the democrats you are either racist or guilty. inciting preliminary violence. joining me to weigh in, kimberly guilfoyle and kirsten powers. first it's an act of desperation. reckless, irresponsible and a lot of this is coming because of the falling poll numbers. your take? >> i find it to be inflammatory and i really am offended by it because it's belittling of the american people who are exercising therefore rights and freedom of speech. this isn't about racism or whether or not you like president obama. it's an outright rejection of the abuse of spending all of our taxpay

that's completely the opposite of what nancy pelosi said.'s just more mixed messages from democrats and it just raises the stakes for obama tomorrow night. >> 30 seconds to you, rich, but i'm trying to understand whether this president has done a good enough job explaining to the american people what he wants. you say what? >> he did not which is why he's got to do this tomorrow and this is an arrow he can never get back do his quiver calling a joint session. he shouldn't have had to do this. if he would have set it

carlson of bloomberg news, thanks for joining us tonight. >> thanks, lawrence. >>> coming up, nancy pelosi's emotional plea yesterday to be more responsible in our political discourse. today fox news answers that call by saying pelosi has planted thoughts of assassination in people's minds. >>> and later, saturday night live puts its unique spin on the joe wilson yell. we've all seen the yell and the debate is sparked, now find out what made it happen. >>> and coming up on rachel at the top of the hour, joe wilson snatches the "oddball" torch from governor sanford. what are those guys smoking in south carolina? ng else on the road right now," proclaims "gq" magazine. did you see that? the interior "positively oozes class," raves "car magazine." "slick and sensuous," boasts "the washington times." "the most striking vw in recent memory," declares-- okay, i get it already. i think we were in a car commercial. ♪ yeah ♪ yeah. >>> coming up, taming the out of control national discourse. guess who agrees with nancy pelosi that we could be more civil. joe wilson. yeah, that joe wilson. >>> and late

carlson of bloomberg news, thanks for joining us tonight. >> thanks, lawrence. >>> coming up, nancy pelosi'smotional plea yesterday to be more responsible in our political discourse. today fox news answers that call by saying pelosi has planted thoughts of assassination in people's minds. >>> and later, saturday night live puts its unique spin on the joe wilson yell. we've all seen the yell and the debate it sparked. now find out what made it happen. >>> and coming up on rachel at the top of the hour, joe wilson snatches the "oddball" torch from governor sanford. what are those guys smoking in south carolina? (announcer) it's applebee's 2 for $20. the one deal in the neighborhood where you get the real food. featuring a half rack of our new double-glazed baby back ribs with your choice of sauces. get one full-sized appetizer and two real entrees for just twenty bucks. it's 2 for $20. only at applebee's. it's not always easy living with copd, but i try not to let it hold me back... whether i'm at the batting cages... down by the lake or... fishing at the shore. i'm breathing better... with sp

nancy pelosi is right.has been unduly harsh, especially from unelected republicans. i've got to say, though, the rhetoric from elected democrats, including nancy pelosi herself, has been disappointing, talking about un-american tactics. talking about people being villains. i think she use the word "evil." i know harry reid has talked about evil mongers. >> both sides have played in the mud. they should have said something to admit to that. >> it's time to restart this dialogue. harold ford, i think we are at a very dangerous time. i think we are going to step back and push the reset button and try to have a meaningful debate. i'm not saying people who go to tea parties are racist, which is one of the things that has been maddening this week. if you're anti-tax now and go to anti-tax rallies, just because there are those who are racist with gross signs, that means naturally you're a racist. that's very offensive to me. at the same time, there are some people on the air waves and on the internet that are stir

neil: nancy pelosi, talking about savings -- could you update me?ell, the deal that was made involved in getting the bill out in july before the august recess, and some of the deals involve a reduction in the long- term costs to and away the option would be structured to have negotiated rates rather than medicare-set rates, and it appears that as it moves to the floor, that may not end up in the bill that the house end up voting on. neil: there are 52 of you blue dogs. do i have that number correct? >> that is correct. neil: how many of you are against the health-care reform as you know of it? >> well, i cannot speak for the entire blue dogs coalition, but there are various concerns. many have concerns about the public options. many, including myself, have concerns about the income-tax increase that is a part of the bill. a lot of us believe we can do better with cost containment, keeping costs down. neil: i am sorry i was not clear. john boehner does not think that nancy pelosi has the votes she needs in the house to pass anything, the 218, and a l

they're going to attack nancy pelosi, the house speaker. showed some emotion about the health care anti-s and related it to a terrible time in this country's history. here it is. >> i have concerns about some of the language that is being used because i saw -- i saw this and i felt, in the late '70s in san francisco, this kind of rhetoric was very frightening and it gave -- it created a climate in which we -- silence took place. our country is great because people can say what they think and they believe, but i also think that they have to take responsibility for any incitement that they may cause. >> so let me tell you something. that was real emotion coming from a woman who's witnessed hatred firsthand in a city of change decades ago. republican congressman from texas, pete sessions, had the nerve to issue this paper statement response to speaker pelosi. here's the quote. "the speaker is now liking genuine opposition to assassination such insulting rhetoric not only undermines the credibility of her office but underscores es desperate att

>> nancy pelosi laid down the law again today.ughness coming up on this media tour. i want him to say "i support a public option and it must be in any bill that i sign." if democrats in the senate can't get 60 votes, do it with 51. and i'm all for reconciliation. i don't think jonathan alter is. what do you think? >> i am too. i think it's fine to split the bill in two and do part of it through reconciliation. i've got no problem with that. my only problem is drawing lines in the sand. i don't think it's productive. it doesn't get you closer to an end result. you have to play your cards close when you're negotiating, which is the position the president is now going into. but i'm very disappointed that the baucus bill did not have a more robust co-op plan. if they're not going to do a public option as the president said in his speech, you have to have some way to keep the insurance industry honest and the alternative was a co-op plan, but it's a very wimpy one. >> you've been consistent all along. but aren't we at a new level? all

today in an extraordinary moment house speaker nancy pelosi linked today's mean national rhetoric with the heat and anger in the air when san francisco mayor richard moscone and supervisor harvey milk were murdered. >> i have concerns about some of the language that is being used because i saw -- i saw this myself in the late '70s in san francisco, this kind of rhetoric was very frightening, and it gave -- it created a climate in which violence took place. >> that was george moscone, of course. could today's crazy rhetoric give license to some of the real crazies out there? it's a real and very scary world out there right now. >>> also, could president obama get 60 u.s. senators to back a bill that repairs health care in this country, can he? most democrats know they need to pass something. will they? democratic senator conrad of north dakota, a member of the so-called gang of six, will be here on "hardball" tonight. >>> and the right wing and its allies on talk radio and on fox tv have claimed another victim. perhaps a deserving one. the house today voted to cut off all government fun

>> it had nancy pelosi's head spinning.n hours you could order a you lie tie or a you lie cap. turn to south carolina republican congressman who yelled it into a hero to some. joe wilson for president but among those we talked to -- >> i think it's disgusting. >> really is totally disgraceful. i came out of the gym. we were talking about it in the locker room. >> you lie is a love tap in countries where politicians play hard ball. >> we not only save the banks -- >> critics of joe wilson are laughing. they set up a website called joe wilson is your pre-existing condition.com aimed at hurling insults at the congressman. we did find one obama supporter who came to wilson's defense. >> it's about freedom of speech. we live in a country where you can say what you want to say. >> it's freedom of speech. >> reporter: they even argued over wilson's apology. >> you don't think i should apologize to you for interrupting. >> i do. >> why? >> because it's rude. >> reporter: you lie strikes us as kids stuff. do you think it's okay that

nancy pelosi all but said she can't get a bill without a public option.mes down to negotiations between house and the senate. then the pressure really goes on harry reid. the republicans have no incentive to work here. they can run out the clock and hope democrats turn on each other and battle each other over the inclusion of a public option. harry reid is going to have to step up to see if anything comes through with public option. my guess is you'll end up with triggers. >> michael medved, here's my point. there is nothing out there that is going to reel in obscene profits we have seen by the insurance industry over the last eight years and there's nothing there that's going to stop the premiums from going up. until you get competition, guaranteed competition, it isn't going to happen. i'm not confident that the wyden bill does that. >> okay. are you going to guarantee, or is any democratic bill going to guarantee that insurance premiums won't go up? if you look at the logic of this, if you take 30 million new people and you are demanding more medical s

i have strong doubts that the house -- that even with the first passage that nancy pelosi will insistthe public option. >> we also keep hearing that the white house has been frustrated that the public option has gotten far too much attention in its opinion in this entire debate. how did they misread this? it seems that the public option is the hinge on which forcing insurance prices down exists or does not exist. >> well, what they misread, keith, was how much uproar this would cause on the left. and they were using the old playbook, the 1994 playbook. and what you have to remember about 1994 is, there were no blogs in 1994, and for the -- for the 15-year-olds out there, i hate to tell you, but msnbc did not exist in 1994. so when we were legislating this in 1994, we did not worry about risking the wrath of the left if we were trying to move the bill towards the middle because we knew the left would have to be with us in a vote when we actually get to the senate floor and the house floor. that's the normal formula, that the democrats don't worry about the defendant. and that is the fo

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this is what made nancy pelosi cry, and you know what? if i were her, it might have made me cry as well. first, milk. harvey milk. harvey milk, you might is seen the movie. you might know who he is, maybe you don't, but he was a a politician and he was killed by another politician, a democrat. the guy who killed harvey milk was crazy. he snuck in to town hall through a basement window. he made his way up to the offices and started shooting. he murdered the mayor of san francisco and milk in bowed daylight. now, twinkie. what does this have to do with anything? well, you know how the guy got off? the twinkie defense. remember that? that's how a cold-blooded killer got off in san francisco in the 1970's. he blamed it on too much sugar from junk food, the twinkie defense. twinkies and milk. now, what else was happening? kool-aid. there was something else happening in san francisco, another radical and communist in bed with the democratic party. this guy had connections with everybody in the democratic party. he was a bad dude, but everybody

pelosi and obama on the core issues of health care. nancy a public option. obama's for it, pelosi is for it. but pelosi on the part of the clip you didn't play, she said for the moment, as far as our house members are concerned. what she's saying is i'm going to fight really hard for the public option, but i'm not going to sabotage health care reform if there's a trigger. >> do you agree, david? >> i can't recall when a speaker of the house has so defied a president of the same party in his first year as has just happened. denny hastert never did anything like this to president bush 43, i didn't remember dick gephart doing anything like this to jimmy carter. and it raises the question, who is it that's in charge of imposing some kind of discipline on the liberal members of the democratic caucus? that is something the white house normally asks the speaker to do. >> can i just say, there's something called a little bit of politics going on here. i have spoken to people today who are close to nancy pelosi and she's got to walk a very fine line

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>> i cannot create tears like nancy pelosi. i recall a lot of stuff coming from the left during the bush years. he was called a liar by harry reid and nancy pelosi. let's not forget the moveo n.org video contest, in which george bush was compared to hitler. it cuts both ways. she should take responsibility for people on the left. we just saw the murder of a pro- abortion doctor. we have also seen a violence against anti-abortion activist. interestingly, i just saw a bumper sticker on a car that said that the sense is patriotic. came from the left, clearly on the car of a liberal. it would be interesting to move that to a conservative car. >> i think that this and other health care is totally patriotic, lots of good reasons to question it. but there are a lot of outrageous things we are seeing. [everyone talking at once] >> to compare speech to violence is false, it is an attempt to get people to shut up. martha: also an attempt to get $10 donations as well. >> white democrats when bush was in office. martha: thank you very much

appreciate it. >>> a warning tonight from house speaker nancy pelosi. the speaker says the heated health care debate could lead to political violence. the speaker even compares the current climate in this country to san francisco in the 1970s when two politicians were murdered. candy crowley has our report. >> good morning. the speaker of the house thinks the tone of the health care debate borders on dangerous. >> i have concerns about some of the language that is being used because i saw this myself in the late '70s in san francisco, this kind of rhetoric was very frightening and it created a climate in which we -- violence took place. >> reporter: as she recalled the early, turbulent fight for gay rights, nancy pelosi suggested even if a speaker has no violent intent the words could set off a less stable person. >> they have to take responsibility for any incitement that they may cause. >> reporter: the most violent incident reported recently was when a pro health care reform liberal bit off part of the finger of an antireform conservative after being

nancy pelosi is drawing a line in the sand. one of the big challenges tonight will be for the president to tell us where he comes down on this and place a bet on one approach or another. martha: moments ago we listened to senator baucus, the lead democrat on this gang of six in the senate. he says he is hearing a lot about the trigger option from the press. he said that the trigger option does not really come up. >> it is interesting. this was talked about a lot last week as a possibility. the trigger was included in medicare prescription drugs. this is where everybody pointed to. the question was would there be a number of competing plans available in every part of the country? there was a trigger that said that if there is not at least two in every competing area in the country, there would be a possibility for a government-run plan. there are dozens of competing plans in every region of the country. you could design a trigger for this and it would be absolutely certain of being pulled. it would guarantee a government- run he

it's too bad we didn't have nancy pelosi back then to tell america to watch out for that angry martinher king, because he was so forceful in his speeches, he must be dangerous. >> i think we all have to take responsibility for our actions and our words. we are a free country, and this balance between freedom and safety is one that we have to carefully balance. i have concerns about some of the language that is being used because i saw this myself in the late '70's in san francisco, this kind of rhetoric was very frightening. i wish that we would all again curb our enthusiasm. glenn: curb our enthusiasm? here is a good show. i haven't watched it, but i wish we would too, nancy. you saw that stuff happening in san francisco in the '70's? is that when jim jones the communist got everybody to drink kool-aid. no, it was too early for van jones, who was setting up storm in san francisco. which one is it? oh, i know! maybe it was the weather underground that you guys are hanging out with now? is it that group? help me. fill me in on that. keep letting your voices be heard and learn the lesso

insurance, medicare, medicaid, does pretty well p. >> but a lot of people in your party, including nancy pelosisay without a public option, there can be no health care bill. >> i hope the president before tomorrow night and after can convince speaker pelosi and others that this is a distraction and it's not the main event. a lot of the experts i've talked to said the question is not who pays for our health care, it's how much they're paying and what they're paying for. in other words, we've got to reform the way in which health care is delivered to save money and improve the quality. there's a broad consensus for what's necessary to do that. and incidentally, if people think that we need a government-run health insurance plan it to keep the insurance companies honest as they say, there are a lot of better ways, less expensive ways to do that. one is by tougher regulation and a second is by enforcement of antitrust laws. if a given insurance company dominates a market so that people don't have a real choice. so this is a moment tomorrow night, a critical moment in the health care debate, but als

house speaker nancy pelosi concerned about political rhetoric.ck rather concerned as well. fear is a heck of a great way to control people, but is it the best way to make decisions? we are back with the fear factor after this. let friskies indoor wet cat food unlock the freshness... and freedom of the outdoors for your indoor cat. specially formulated to promote hairball control... and healthy weight. friskies indoor wet cat food. feed the senses. >>> time for trend or talk. today the subject is the fear factor. here to comment, friend of the meeting and panelists for the day, karen finney. you get the whole center lefty thing. who knows. we could do worse. a big talker today. i tease you. house speaker, nancy pelosi, choked up as she voiced concern that rhetoric is on the road to violence. take a listen. >> i have concerns about some of the language that is being used because i saw -- saw this myself in the late '70s in san francisco, this kind of rhetoric was very frightening, and it gave -- it created a climate in which violence took place. so

perhaps nancy pelosi but i think not. we should look at president obama's record. he is acorn.e coached acorn. he is an acorn alum and now hired them to recruit people to run the census. i know they will cut the ties but obama is tied up in this thing deeply. the more we learn, we understand how closely he is tied. >> gregg: you are suggesting here obstruction of justice by the president of the united states, calling off an investigation on capitol hill where there appears to be plenty of evidence of a criminal enterprise. >> they didn't have the investigation going. i'm calling for congressional hearing, that is what john conyers referenced when he said he thought there should be hearings on acorn. i wouldn't go as far as to say obstruction of justice but we know how the lines of power work. if he says to rahm emanuel or chicago political dialogue that they have inside the white house that he is not interested in acorn being brought under the spotlight of american media or congressional hearing, rahm emanuel has the ability to pass that message down through the grapevine to pe

nancy pelosi is in california. certainly she could see what's happening, this area is getting burned out. you know, i would think this is one of these issues where you really could find bipartisan agreement. >> because the radical environmental movement started in the area. what you have is you have this movement that's been going on for decades. they control the democratic party. that's the problem here. and that's why i want to warn people, this can happen somewhere else. the point that i would like to make, nowhere in the world does a democracy -- has a democracy ever starved its own people of water. you know what country does that? sim back way does that. zimbabwe does that when i was a kid we used to lay down in the flower bed, it was nice and cool. come into work. just a couple weeks ago i was out here and they were grown men at 3:00 in the afternoon sleeping in flower beds to stay cool. you know why? they can't afford to turn electricity on. 40,000 people without jobs. sean: let's talk, specifically, congres

on the other hand, nancy pelosi said she has never heard about the acorn scandal.ing that there are people in congress who would actually vote to protect acorn. trace: fox exclusive. gop members are using a parliamentary maneuver to try and de-fund acorn. that has not yet developed -- martha: that is the kind of thing they would need to do to get around supporters. i have not heard anything from nancy pelosi on the topic, but you point out that she has blocked. rep. king said that six times, he could not get it through nancy pelosi's hand-pick "rules committee." john conyers said he could not get the powers that be on his side. so what are we going to hear from nancy pelosi now? what does this gop move mean? >> we have attorneys general in state after state stepping forward. looks like they will investigate acorn. in louisiana, the attorney general subpoenaed documents. this is greasy a tale of two parties. democrats outside washington doing the right thing. democrats in washington, frequently getting elected from acorn possible voter registration, they are protect

nevertheless, the day after the accident, speaker nancy pelosi acknowledged wilson's apology ansaid it was time to talk about healthcare and not mr. wilson. democrats decided they wanted more mileage out of the incident. representative wilson himself took the floor today, but not to apologize. >> there are far more important issues facing this nation than what we're addressing right now. the president said the time for games is over. i i agree with the president. he graciously accepted my apology, and the issue is over >> republican after another conceded mr. wilson made a mistake but noted his apology and mr. obama's acceptance of it, as they wondered why house democrats refused to dot same thing. >> i think this is a sad day for the house of representatives. i think that this is nothing more than a partisan stunt aimed at trying to divert people's attention from the real issue that the american people want to talk about and that's talk about healthcare. >> now republican national committee chairman michael steele went a little farther saying if we're going to march members down to th

that's what nancy pelosi is talking about. there are people out there who are using that kind of language on blogs, on-line, and e-mail and rallies. that is wrong. now, it is wrong to sit here and to assign that to a wide variety of people. there are certainly people who are disagreeing with the president who it comes to his policies, but at the same time we are to call out those people and to point them out who are speaking the kind of hateful rhetoric that is necessary. it has for place. >> it is no different with president bush. i mean, you essential heard much of the same level of rhetoric. >> but i don't recall anybody saying let's send president bush back to kenya. i don't recall anybody having photos of bush as a witch doctor. >> well -- >> you cannot -- >> roland, i can remind you that -- >> all right. let me let gloria make a point. go ahead. >> here's the point where it gets very dangerous politically, and i have spoken with folks at the white house. they believe that if he gets dragged into this right now, that ever

when -- when you make that decision like nancy pelosi wants to get out and senator levin wants to see us gradually get out. youngsters anoa who will be supporting president obama? john mccain. he has been to afghanistan nine times. his son served in iraq. he is not that partisan. quite the contrary, i have been saying to my conservative friendsesome with all of the ales in afghanistan we have to fight and win there. i think president obama will do the right thing. his chief of staff rahm emanuel is nervous about it. political operatives saying don't be lin son johnson again. >> chris: i want to ask you, what is at take in afghanistan. juan brings up the point it appears we had rampant election fraud in the election last month. what are the the chances of a peaceful viable state are pretty good. and the cost of defeat is just unacceptable. the idea that the taliban would drive us out of the place in which 9/11 was launch the because we don't have the will and intelligence to fight and win, i think the consequences around the world, throughout the middle east, the islamic world, the mes

house speaker nancy pelosi has been saying no public option, no bill in the house. but on thursday after the president's speech she's seen to wobble a little bit, marc. >> the reality, as of now, the senate will not go for a public option. >> max baucus said that. >> that's right. and the reality is that the house, the progressive caucus and the house, the core of nancy pelosi's support and core of the democratic party and the house, are committed to it. you ask people to vote in the house, -- the public option is controversial, popular with the liberal wing, but with the understanding and the fear that it will be knocked out by the senate so it is never going to see the light of day. it becomes a political question. but the democrats, make no mistake about this, are unified and are unified but -- by what nina gulstan are earlier, the republicans, and by giving a face and a voice to the opposition, that dominated the coverage of the last few days, someone who previously could not have been picked out of a police lineup -- now he is the face and the voice of the part

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speaker nancy pelosi has concerns as well, still advocating for the public option. >> kelly, unfortunatelyi think we don't have that sound from pelosi. i can read it to you, though. >> reporter: sure. >> it says security for our seniors, our bill is stronger for seniors than the senate bill. we hope we can persuade them to our point of view. i fully support a public option, a public option, a public option will be in the bill that passes the house of representatives. >> i'm glad you were able to mention the house of representatives part. it's always been an easier sell on the house side. for a period of time, speaker pelosi can keep that argument going. on the senate side, they say a public option cannot pass. that's the claim by democrats, as well as republicans. so, it will be some time before they have to reach that hurdle of merging the two bills, whatever they eventually look like. but on the issue of senior, the republican party has been talking about concerns about what's in the balk us plan, saying it will not be as good for seniors as some of the other plans from other committees

we're talking about co-ops not the public option as defined by nancy pelosi. but they're talking about not having -- this is not -- they're passing them by. >> reporter: he is. look, he's not irrelevant to the process no matter what happens because he's chairman of the senate finance committee. at the end of the day the senate finance committee has jurisdiction over whatever legislation ends up getting passed by the entire united states senate. he's no longer playing point. when he came out with this blueprint yesterday, i had people at the white house say, well, i saw this in june. and they're like, where -- if this is it, then why didn't he come out sooner? a lot of capitol hill watchers saying, hey, had he come out with this as the blueprint in june, forced grassley and enzi to sign off on it, you might have had a bipartisan thing to agree to. clearly after the month of august grassley and enzi are no on this front, no to this blueprint. but they were sitting out there potentially waiting. i think how he managed the politics of this has made his less releva

i'm going to take senator levin at his word and say that he is possibly not the nancy pelosi on thisho clearly wants troops out as soon as possible. mccrystal himself has called for, in his report, according to published reports at least, he is calling for a surge of afghan troops. they want to double the afghan army. they want to double or nearly double the police force. he complains that when you go out on a major operation, say with 11,000 american troops, you might have 500 afghan troops with you. they understand this. this is part of what they want to do. they want more boots on the ground, a more interactive, more one-on-one training with the afghan security forces, but the point that he makes in this is that you need more american soldiers there to be able to train the afghan troops, so i think, you know, levin and mcchrystal are somewhat on the same page. a lot of it is about timing. do you refuse to send in american troops or more american troops without more afghan forces being trained? bret: charles. >> well, i think levin's proposal, the part of it in which he says he wan

bottom of the hour, top of the news, nancy pelosi is about to call the house to order. this is half of an hour before the sec -- president is scheduled to address the congress on the topic of health care reform. as happens every time a president comes in, some members arrive early to jockey for a spot on the aisle, where they can shake hands with the president on television. however, there is one lawmaker that will be on every network tonight, no matter where he sits. charles boustany is going to deliver the gop response. even though you are not familiar with him, he is very familiar with health care. >> i have seen the sec in america. i have dealt with the heart of the problem. shepard: literally. congressman charles boustany, a heart surgeon, rarely missed an opportunity to talk about the decades he spent working in operating rooms. he said that his father used to take him on house calls when he was a boy. he met his wife in college in 1982. they had two kids. he opened his own private practice. who ran for his district's congressional seat in 2004 and one in a runoff

>> first off, my apologies for making you look at nancy pelosi. that was unacceptable. it will never happen again. in case you didn't hear that, that was wilson yelling "you lie." he later said he was sorry. roll tape, roll tapers. >> i heard from the leadership that they wanted me to contact the white house and state that my statements were inappropriate. i did. i'm very grateful that the white house in talking with them, they indicated that they appreciated the call and that we needed to have a civil discussion about the healthcare issues and i certainly agree with that. >> greg: others noted this wasn't much different from what the democrats did to bush in the 2005 state of the union address. >> by the year 2042, the entire system would be exhausted and bankrupt. if steps are not taken to avert that outcome, the only solutions would be dramatically higher taxes, massive new borrowing or sudden and severe cuts in social security benefits or other government programs. >> greg: after that, his speech got even worse. i actually had to turn away from that, it made me sick

nancy pelosi is a strong leader. she is committed to a public option, and the facts -- the facts speak for themselves, ed. it's a no-brainer. you know, it's not just that the republicans have no alternative solutions. they have no heart. this is really -- >> they're heartless? >> well, this is about caring about the rest of our american community. >> you said they're heartless? they don't care? why don't they have a plan? >> well, i'm not -- i'm just -- well, if they cared enough about the people that tens of millions of people who have no insurance, they would come up with a plan. i don't know why they don't have a plan. i think it's because they feel that the people that are going to be covered, perhaps, are not their constituents because they're going to lose campaign contributions. i don't know what it is. >> congressman, when are the democrats going to say to hell with the conservatives, to heck, let's go, let's go, let's get this done. they're telling people at town hall meetings to go see a charity. they're te

. >> and check out the reaction from house speaker nancy pelosi. how could a congressman call out the president of the united states in the middle of a speech to a joint session of congress? who is he and how much support does he have and would americans stand for outburst is it and anger on a real debate with health care. >> they are turned off when they see people using wild accusations, false claims, name calling. >> plus, how easy it it for crooks to pull a fast one on government regulators? new tonight, bernie madoff caught on tape. the master scammer who stole 65 billion how did he dupe the fcc? new research showing six-month babies judged others based on the color of their skin. what can parents do? >>> hey, everybody. those are big questions tonight but we're going to start, as always, with the stories making an impact. we'll watch it all so you don't ha tochlt we begin with breaking news, news that gets us a step closer to a vaccine for the h1n1 viruses, shows that a low dose of the virus may be enough to protect you from the virus. listen

house speaker nancy pelosi says, she is confident the president will be signing a bill by year's end. >>> and the fbi has joined the search for a missing yale grad student. annie lee who was supposed to get married on sunday, has not been seen since tuesday. >>> although it has been eight years since the worst terrorist attacks ever on u.s. soil, at least one nagging question remains. could they have been prevented? >> now, an fbi informant is coming out of the shadows for the first time. and he says he has the answer. chief investigative correspondent,rian ross, has the details. >> reporter: as a highly-praised undercover operative for the fbi for the last 13 years, he was known as mohammed. his real name is elie assaad, a 36-year-old native of lebanon. >> for people to understand what i did. >> reporter: eight years after the 9/11 attacks, assaad is now going public with an account of how he says, he and the fbi missed a chance to stop the hijackers. you could have stopped the attacks? >> yes. i could. i'm not 100%. i'm 80% positive. >> reporter: in early 2001, the fbi sent assaad t

house speaker nancy pelosi says no public option, no bill on the house. on thursday after the president's speech as he seemed to wobble a little bit, marc. >> the reality is this, as of now. the senate will not go for a public option. >> max baucus said that. >> that's right. and reality is that the house, progressive caucus and the house, and the core of nance is a los budget nanticoke -- nancy cosi's support are committed to appeared -- and the core of nancy pelosi's support is committed. it is controversial, poppe global liberal wing but with an understanding and the fears that had it will be knocked out by the senate so it is never going to see the light of day. it becomes a political question. the democrats, make no mistake about this, are unified, and unified by what nina touched on earlier, the abortion is of the republicans and getting a face and a voice to opposition that has dominated the covered the last three days, somebody who had previously could not have been picked up -- picked out of the police lineup, joe wulsin of south carolina and now