factors that shape the reagan's attitude, evolving attitudei would not underestimate the role of nancy reagan, who was the ultimate protector about his legacy and who wanted that legacy to include the role of peacemaker. host: as the head of the reagan library, you had a chance to sit ronald reagan in the early in office? guest: he loved to tell stories. washington stories. he told lots of hollywood stories, lots of dixon, illinois stories. after his illness was diagnosed, you could almost measure his progress because the repertoire of stories narrowed. at the end, i am told he would still talk about -- the thing he was proudest of was a lifeguard in dixon, illinois saving 77 lives. host: caller from silver lake, illinois. caller: i have a few comments to make. all this time, there is a split in the united states on political parties. big divide? i do not see any future of obama trying to get with the other party. he wants to heckle them, probe them like you would a mad cow orhost: is it more partisan than it has been in the past? it feels. you cannot escape it. the nature of cable tv, which

i would not underestimate the role of nancy reagan, who was the ultimate protector about his legacy andho wanted that legacy to include the role of peacemaker. host: as the head of the reagan library, you had a chance to sit down with former president ronald reagan in the early 1990's. how did he reflect on this time in office? what do you remember in your conversations with him? guest: he loved to tell stories. he did not tell a lot of washington stories. he told lots of hollywood stories, lots of dixon, illinois stories. after his illness was diagnosed, you could almost measure his progress because the repertoire of stories narrowed. at the end, i am told he would still talk about -- the thing he was proudest of was a lifeguard in dixon, illinois saving 77 lives. .hat stayed with im lonhim host: caller from silver lake, illinois. caller: i have a few comments to make. hello? host: you're on the air. guest: all this time, there is a split in the united states on political parties. why is it that we have such a big divide? i do not see any future of obama trying to get with the other pa

>> this is nancy reagan. how could you not have known that? rue wore floral print. >> i have to break in here jon: al this is an attack on a beautiful woman and one of her... one of my very dear friends michelle obama. you know what? i will not stand for it. >> madrigal campaign emails isn't friendship, pal >> shut up, nancy. not just campaign emails. we talk all the time on the phone, facebook. we've been close for three years after meeting on twitter. >> (laughing) oh, my god. jon: al, have you actually met the first lady in person? >> not in person but we're supposed to meet. she's on busy. >> jon: al, i think you've been held by hawaiian prankster ronaiah tuiasosopo >> no. i got ronaiah tuiasosopoed? no! >> wow, somebody looks like an idiot. >> jon: thanks, guys. b)%p welcome back. not only was today barack obama's inauguration, it was also martin luther king day. for his thoughts on this historic occasion we're joined by senior black correspondent morgan freeman. >> thanks, jim. that's okay. sorry. >> jon: i got it. wait. the president wa

i think of nancy reagan. were you surprised by this color?n blue. they're patriotic colors. i was surprised because i tend to think of them as a little cliche. very traditional and mrs. obama has proven herself to be very untraditional when it comes to fashion. i was surprised that she chose such an expected color. >> we certainly saw that with the outfit earlier today, the dress and the coat by thom browne. you got the exclusive look at jason wu's first sketch. >> did i and it is quite extraordinary to look at it. knowing jason wu and his handwriting, this is certainly him. if you can read there from the top to the bottom, it says gold embellished ring. that ring around that halter top portion of the dress was made by kimberly mcdonald. diamond encrusted. the other notes say draped chiffon with texture, red dye to match, duchess belt and column skirt. at the bottom there you can see his signature, jason wu. really, really extraordinary. and he mentioned the surprise, shock, red carpet moment where these designers don't know. and i can tell y

let me put this in context and i'll use nancy reagan. and i saw this quote.cy reagan said presidents don't get vacations. they just get a change of scenery. the job goes with them. all the pressure and everything. every republican knows that. and to rush limbaugh, i just have two words. jack squat. i mean, that's as simple as that. and the same thing with the folks over at the other network. they know that. and you hit it -- look, eisenhower, nobody played golf more than eisenhower did. >> well, you're exactly right. reagan used to get a lot of -- reagan used to go to his ranch in california all of the time. people forget that presidents back in the day would takd the entire summers off. they would take the train. that was the only way of transportation. they didn't have internet. >> i'm going to say it -- maybe i'm the one that will say it. here's what i think the problem is. they don't have a problem showing bush, kennedy going to where ever he went off every weekend. i'm going to tell you what the problem is with president obama. that's it. that's the prob

nancy reagan was a fashionista and you're talking about dolly madison.mpare michelle obama to her most recent predecessors, laura bush, and secretary of state hillary clinton? >> i think that every first lady has to define the role for herself. so there are things that are available to her. she has access, she has chances to exert power. the office of first lady has a power just in showing up. and i think each of our first ladies that in our living memory have exercised that power very well. i know that mrs. laura bush was an incredibly powerful and effective first lady. but she did it rather quietly and a more mibehind the scenes kind of way. in fact, i would say her career after first lady hood is an example for all first ladies. and, of course, mrs. clinton was a stepping stone to even more power. so i think each woman defines it for herself. and i think mrs. obama has been a good example of that. i'm curious to see what she is going to do in four years. >> we all are. thank you, kathryn. we appreciate it. and you can't talk presidential inauguration

i would not underestimate the role of nancy reagan, who was the ultimate protector about his legacy andthat legacy to include the role of peacemaker. host: as the head of the reagan library, you had a chance to sit down with former president ronald reagan in the early 1990's. how did he reflect on this time in office? guest: he loved to tell stories. he did not tell a lot of washington stories. he told lots of hollywood stories, lots of dixon, illinois stories. after his illness was diagnosed, you could almost measure his progress because the repertoire of stories narrowed. at the end, i am told he would still talk about -- the thing he was proudest of was a lifeguard in dixon, illinois saving 77 lives. host: caller from silver lake, illinois. caller: i have a few comments to make. all this time, there is a split in the united states on political parties. why is it that we have such a big divide? i do not see any future of obama trying to get with the other party. he wants to heckle them, probe them like you would a mad cow or lion. host: is it more partisan than it has been in the past

it was exactly the kind of thing they wouldn't have done for laura bush, barbara bush or nancy reaganhoa, nancy reagan they would have done it. >> everything she does is wonderful, and it's incredibly expensive, all the better because that's just good for jobs and the economy and some fashion designer who's lifted from obscurity. that is biased, and even you, ellen, you admit it. >> well -- jon: some differences in the ways the two parties' candidates or presidents get covered. we're going to have to leave it there. jim, ellen, thank you both. >> thank you. arthel: for the record, i wore these nine years ago. jon: the bangs? you're not copying the first lady? >> i'll give it up to her, she looks beautiful. >>> coming up, an interesting way to get dog owners -- oh, goodness, good deal -- to clean up after their pooches. some say it's like 1984. ing ban] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sou

madison, many feel defined the role of first lady, policy side, bet any ford with substance abuse, nancy reaganhe just say no campaign on drugs and jackie kennedy, style you glamour, glitz, all that stuff. talk more then about the similarities between jackie kennedy and mrs. clinton. >> there is also a lot of great differences, of course, because jacqueline kennedy did, carry to popular belief, have a great knowledge and interest in public issues and political issues but she didn't get into them and she wouldn't address them in public. she only did so privately. like betty ford, hillary clinton has always talked about the rights of women and that this is important and she has actually even brought that point out from a very practical point of view to many nations that don't include women in their societies as fully. she says, look, you're not using 100% of what you could be using in terms of brain and know-how and business skill and workforce. and you suffer by that and like dolley madison, as first lady in the white house, she very effectively used entertaining as a way to sometimes forward th

i would not underestimate the role of nancy reagan, who was the ultimate protector about his legacy andanted that legacy to include the role of peacemaker. host: as the head of the reagan library, you had a chance to sit down with former president ronald reagan in the early 1990's. how did he reflect on this time in office? guest: he loved to tell stories. he did not allow lot of washington stories. he told lots of hollywood stories, lots of dixon, illinois stories. after his illness was diagnosed, you could almost measures progress because the repertoire of stories narrowed. at the end, i am told he would still talk about -- the thing he was proudest of was a lifeguard and dixon, illinois saving 77 lives. host: caller from silver lake, illinois. caller: have a few comments to make. all this time, there is a split in the united states on political parties. why is it that we have to have such a big divide? i do not see any future of obama trying to get with the other party. he wants to heckling, a program like you would a mad cow or line -- heckled them, probe them like you would a mad c

anyway, nancy reagan, when she was there a month after moving into the white house, said she was a little when the usher sent up a bill for their food. quote, nobody told us that the president and his wife are charged for every meal as well as dry cleaning, toothpaste, and other toiletries. so, ronald reagan used to call it like an eight-star hotel because you had to pay for the amenities. >> i guess right now they have a garden, right? michelle obama can get fresh veggies and fruits out of the backyard. >> but she wasn't the first one to do that. that actually happened under -- i'll tell you exactly. wait, wait, wait, oh, no. john adams. john adams was the first person to put in the vegetable guarden. >> gardening back in the day. there you go. i like that factoid. >> i thought it was michelle. >> felicia taylor, thank you so much. as we're talking white house, we're talking white house just because of the inauguration this upcoming monday. today we're looking beyond the fun and festivities and breaking down the challenges the president will face in his final term. coming up, a look at o

we have the nancy reagans known for her red and jacqueline kennedy who defined an era.d michelle obama is such a modern lady. she's taken fashion by the reins and worn it unabashedly and shown that, you know, you can really make a fashion statement and -- at the same time be taken seriously. i think that's a very powerful and empowering take on fashion. >> yeah. she's not afraid of fashion, is she? she's certainly not afraid to take any risk. >> color, stripes, she loves to, you know, mix it up. she'll -- she's been called the mix and match master because she's take high fashion and mix it with high street browns. that's very accessible. she's known for her accessibility which i think is obviously great as a member of the public. you can watch your first lady and then go out and buy her look the next day on line if you want. and wear exactly what she's wearing which is genius. >> as we're talking here, we're looking at these incredible pictures of her wearing that jason wu gown from the first inauguration. >> of course. >> night here in '09. what about her ball gown des

reagan's house? >> absolutely. nancy and reagan's house is actually on the market.edrooms and what's interesting is this is the house that reagan was living in when then president jimmy carter called on him, conceding the election and allowing president reagan to become the 40th 40th president of the united states, the biggest role of his life. the reagans moved to a more prestigious home, the white house. a fun fact is ronald reagan was an actor before he became president and was host of general electric theater. so general electric gifted him this property, which is 4700 square feet and as a result, the entire kitchen is decked out with ge appliances. >> circa 1961. that's tremendous. versace's house it on the market. tell me about it. >> it is. in 1997, as many of you remember, jionni was gunned on on miami beach on ocean drive. the very same estate it on the market for $100 million. it's reduced from $125 million. now, as outrageous as this property is, nobody's debating that, it's covered in 24 karat gold. 100 million dollars is still an outrageously inflated p

reagan. johnny carson talked about the president's age. and nancy's spending habits. but then there was the second term. iran-contra scandal. >> well, my favorite show got back on television today. the iran-contra hearings. did you watch it? yeah. reagan was watching the hearings today. with his aides. and he was -- he would say to his aides, do i remember that or not? [laughter] now the president said today that he thinks americans are bored with the iran scandal. that's what the president said. he says they're not watching the hearings on tv. and they're going back to the regular daytime tv shows like old reruns of "mash." and i quote "there ain't no smoking gun." wasn't that one of his lines from "cattle queen of montana"? chris: president obama wants to lay out his goals but can he still make his second inaugural address one that soars? one for history? plus scoops and predictions right from the  chris: welcome back. we are just a week away from the inauguration. and president obama's no doubt well along in composing his address. will he make one for history? will

nancy pelosi. >> ronald reagan established the tradition of going right to sign these kinds of documents for nominationsmade in his speeches that victories are only part for consection for big optimistic day. you were going to say something before we went -- >> i thought that the tone -- were having debate, selective, not selective, i think there is one very important thing that he seems to be signalling which is that this really was not a speech to washington at all. it was a speech about bringing the american people together, and a lot of people criticized obama in his first term for kind of being this great community organizer, running this fantastic popular campaign in 2008 then retreating in to washington really, closing up the doors and not takingange oft advantage of that not building popular support for his policies. i do think we're seeing, this is something that franklin roosevelt was really a genius at. he said, okay, you want me to do this thing, can out there, organize and force me to do it. >> richard, what about going to gwen's question of the whole event. not just the address but everyth

they look sort of adoringly at each other while the other one is talking, like nancy and ronald reaganch. of course, they were once pretty -- they were very arch rivals. >> yeah. there was not a lot of love lost there for a while. >> likeable enough. >> you are likeable enough hillary but they have become quite a team. and something terri of state last night saying how much she enjoyed it. >> one of the things that i say to people because i think it helps them understand i say, look. in politics and in democracy, sometimes you win e elections. sometimes you lose elections, and i worked very hard, but i lost and president obama asked me to be secretary of state, and i said, yes. and so this has been just an extraordinary opportunity to work with him as a partner and friend to do our very best on behalf of this country we both love, and it's something i am going to miss a great deal. >> bill: i think it was very bold of him to ask her and bold of her to accept and salutes to both of them. it's been a great team. i think she will go down, as the president said yesterday, as one of the mos

nancy pelosi, harry reid but steven spielberg, tommy lee jones. as tip o'neill famously said about his political foe, ronald reagan, love the sinner. hate the sin. when president reagan would invite the speaker, tip o'neill over to the white house for drinks and raise a glass to one another. there's no shortage of parties planned around inauguration 2013. here is hoping it spills over to the next four years and both sides of the aisle make a move to be more social and more civil. and, hence, more productive. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "the ed show" with ed schultz, starts right now. >>> good evening, americans. welcome "the ed show" from new york. republicans are raising the white flag. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. >> the republican game of chicken is over. eric cantore proposes a three-month deal on the debt ceiling. some democrats are calling it a trap. i'll ask dnc chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz what she thinks. democrats are about to drop the ball. tonight, my message to senator harry reid. plus the american people

nancy pelosi, harry reid but steven spielberg, tommy lee jones. as tip o'neill famously said about his political foe, ronald reagan, love the sinner. hate the sin.en president reagan would invite the speaker, tip o'neill over to the white house for drinks and raise a glass to one another. there's no shortage of parties planned around inauguration

nancy prksz pelosi and harry reid but tommy lee jones. as tip o'neil said, love the sinner, hate the sin. we need to get back to a time when president reagan would invite the speaker, tip o'neil. there's no shortage of parties planned around inauguration 2013. here's hoping that it sill it spills over to the next four years. both sides become more social, more civil and, hence, more productive. thanks for being with us. politics nation with al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks, michael. and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, i'll second that. we're just three days away from history. president obama will be sworn in for the second time on the steps of the capital. and he looks pretty happy about it. take a look at his official second term portrait released today. that's a man who won a decisive election. who's proud of his accomplishment. yes, he's older than the man who appeared in that 2009 picture. but with his new grey hairs comes real progress. he inherited a country on the verge of economic collapse. and he responded by signing a sweeping stimulus. the action was just beginning while the country was reeling from the abuse

reagan. art, always a pleasure to have you with us. >> thank you. stuart: i'm going to say, with heavy pressure from nancyother very senior democrats, this is an option that the president may well take. what do you say? >> i hope he doesn't. i can't imagine he would do it because it'd really be a disruption for the whole process, but i'm not a legal expert, i don't know whether it's right or not. but frankly, it's been not used for years and years and years and years and years, and i don't see why we should break tradition now and try some new circumvention that would put total distrust into the process. it doesn't make sense to me. stuart: i'm thinking what kind after message would it send to markets and investors around the world, we're not prepared to get a handle on our spending, that's what it would say. >> if it's correct, stuart, if it's correct, i mean, why didn't they do it sometime when it's not a crisis? i mean, that's when you test the law to see whether it's correct or not so it can be used in the future, not at the moment of crisis management. that's the wrong time to check whether it's lega

nancy prksz pelosi and harry reid but tommy lee jones. as tip o'neil said, love the sinner, hate the sin. we need to get back to a time when president reaganite the speaker, tip o'neil. there's no shortage of parties planned

it is the first time since nancy reagan that a first lady chose the same designer for both inaugurationsveless showcasing her famous biceps. "usa today" reports jason wu's web site crashed after people started looking for the dress. >> bill: she looked fabulous last night and also during the inaugural ceremony. >> a baltimore ravens player let it out about how he really feels about the new england patriots after beating them in the afc championship. yahoo news was in the locker room when linebacker thugs went on a profanity laced tirade telling them to have fun at the pro bowl, arrogant fs. he went on to say they're the most arrogant ps in the world starting with belichick -- >> that could mean a lot of different things. >> i'm not sure i can say it. >> bill: people. >> that's it. and what that is somewhat -- now when he went after belichick it was somewhat warranted he refused a traditional post-game interview with cbs sports which upset a lot of people. >> is it not traditional for him to refuse interviews at this point? >> it is true. big babies. >> bill: ravens and patriots. not a lo