and the daily insight to have lists and names showing exactly why people have been rounded up naomi conrad of investigative unit reports. i would never have found out that my sister is an account without this list rather going up there with the boy but. it's a detailed surveillance document it's extremely likely that this is authentic yes it's the dress but someone should tell the world what's going on. istanbul. you know. these men now we get muslims from china back home they could be imprisoned for the simple act of praying like quickly come to realize that each one of them has a story of loss. of. the fascist chinese government wants to eliminate the weaker people ocean junk the entire population of junk right in front of the eyes of the world. we ask them to raise their hands if they have family members who've been imprisoned in china is to enjoin province where most weekends live. across jin jiang there are dozens of camps holding up to a 1000000 week as let's take a closer look at one of them this is a reeducation camp next to a prison. we identified watchtowers and high walls. that

and joining me here in the studio is my colleague naomi conrad from the w.'s investigative unit talk about this document to your what exactly does it show it's a really chilling document because it shows that basically it doesn't take much for you to be whisked away you can have a beer that's too long veil or maybe even it's just a wife who wears a veil also shows how all encompassing the surveillance system in china is the authorities know whether you have relatives abroad they know if you talk to them they know how often every day you pray i mean it's all pervasive and that's what this document shows it's really pretty chilling we're talking about this document hell do we know how do we verify the authenticity of this document that was a job that took us several weeks actually i mean we received these 140 odd pages in chinese that the 1st step was to translate them into english and we said the document with various leading scholars who will agree that it was most likely authentic and then the next step was to find relatives of the people on the list we obvi

and let's get more on the story we're joined here in the studio by naomi conrad from investigative unit you saw her in that piece there what more can you tell us about this document but it's a really chilling document because it basically shows you that as the we get it doesn't really matter what you do you have almost automatically targeted if you where be it if you wear a face veil or even if your wife was the veil it shows how all compassing the surveillance state in china is they know everything about you they know how often you pray they know if you've talked to relatives abroad and that is pretty chilling where did the document come from so we got it from the whistleblower we saw in the obviously couldn't tell us how he got it from exactly but he got it from a source in china who's taken even bigger risk by sharing it with the public he says the source wants this to go public because he wants some kind of reaction from the international community which is the chinese government have to say so we actually managed to talk to the foreign minister who was in berlin last week and this

joining us for more is naomi conrad naomi there have been 2 document leaks already over the past few months this is the 3rd major one on the detention of leaders in china what makes this different so these are the personal stories i mean we have a list of some 300 odd people and we know exactly why they were detained so maybe someone was born after 1900 there was another person who downloaded a video 6 years ago so we have all this incredible amount of detail which also documents to what extent china is surveilling its citizens that the way goes into i mean this document shows that they know how from someone prays that they know whether someone's father goes to a mosque regularly it's a it's a chilling document and it's astounding in the level of details now. reporters have been covering this for some time now this is fantastic evidence of course but what has the international community said about this and have they done anything about this so far they haven't done very much i mean the members of the european parliament came out recently calling for targeted sanctions which is someth

naomi conrad of dw's investigative unitit has this reportrt. >> i wouldld never have found ot thataty sisteter is in a camp without this list. >>>> it is a detaiailed surveile document. it is extremelyly likely this is auththentic. >> yeses, it's dangerous. but someone should tell the world what's going on there. naomi: istanbul. these men are uighur muslims from china. at home, they could be imprisoned for the simple act of praying. i quickly come to realize that each one of them has a story of loss. >> the fascist chinesese government wants to eliminate the uighur people of xinjiang, the e entire population of xinjiang, right in front of the eyes of the world. naomi: we asked them to raise their hands if they have family members who have been imprisoned in china's xinjiang province, where most uighurs live. across xinjiang, there are dozens of camps holding up to a million uighurs. let's take a closer look at one of them. this is a reeducation camp next to a prison. we identified watchtotowers and high walls. there are countless camps like this one. the chinese governmenent claims

s investigative reporter naomi conrad has more. times than i would never have found out that my sister is an income without it's least a little bit and. it's a detailed surveillance document it's extremely likely that this is authentic yes it's a dress but someone should tell the world what's going on there. is. no wall. these men now we get muslims from china back home they could be imprisoned for the simple act of praying like quickly come. to realize that each one of them has a story of loss. the fascist chinese government wants to eliminate the weaker people ocean junk the entire population of sion john right in front of the eyes of the world. we ask them to raise their hands if they have family members who've been imprisoned in china's province where most weekends live. across tin jiang dozens of camps holding up to a 1000000 we get. let's take a closer look at one of them this is a reeducation camp next to a prison. we identified watchtowers and high walls. that countless camps like this one the chinese government claims they