they are visiting our national parks. t is the primary place that people want to go enter national tourism when they come to this country. they want to the go to the grand canyon, yellowstone, yosemite. impact onng an travel. it's having an impact on the tourism industry, concessionaires in parks or around parks, communities. when we talk about a $30 million economy, thatthe is a conservative number. the estimate has been higher in some evaluations. ultimately, it will have an impact. pierno is the acting president of the national parks conservation association. follow their organization online at npca.org thank you for talking to our viewers. guest: thank you very much. today'sat does it for "washington journal." the house is about to come in. we will be back tomorrow morning. the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. the chair lays before the house a communication from the speaker. e clerk: the speaker's room, washington, d.c., october 8, 2013. i hereby appoint the honorable

jonathan jarvis is director of the national park service. ms. lisa simon is the president of the national tourist myron ebel is director of energy and global warming policy at the competitive enterprise institute. and mr. dennis galvin is a member of the board of trustees of the national parks conservation association. pursuant to the rules of the oversight committee, i would ask that all members rise, raise heir right hands and be sworn. do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth and knot nothing but the truth? please be seated let the record reflect that all witnesses answered in the affirmative. we have a large panel today and -- on both sides of the dice, and in order to allow time i would ask that you limit your opening statements to five minutes. your entire opening record, plus any other submissions you think pertinent to your testimony, . ll be placed in the record and with that i now recognize mayor brian. >> thank you, chairman, issa. chairman hastings, ranking members cum

one is that the national park service would run these parks and that the states would take the national park service to operate them. it's a professional staff. they been doing this so we could open instantly using our employees. i would not support the states themselves taking over the national parks. by entering into an agreement like this and then it pays for the entire park operation, not just cherry picking components of parks, absolutely i would support putting this into policy so that we can execute on it very quickly. >> thank you. >> the gentleman's time has expired. i would just note that there probably was a template after the 95-96 that probably should've been full. the chair recognizes the gently from the district of columbia, ms. norton. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. i could not identify more with our witnesses on the effect of the shutdown on your local economies. and i think every red-blooded american would similarly identify with the outrage of the residents of your host city. the nation's capital, who in addition have seen the shutdown not only of our tourist e

the house floor debate on funding for the reopening of the national parks. the measure passed by a vote of the debate is 50 minutes. >> i call up a joint resolution hj residence 70. a joint resolution making continuing appropriations for the park operations for the smithsonian -- the united states holocaust memorialmuseum and for other purposes. >> resolution saturday cap -- 70. continuing revolution -- resolutions, the system -- smithsonian, united states --locaust memorial use em for fiscal year 2014 and other fourpurposes. >> the joint resolution is considered red. we'll be debatable for 30 minutes divided and controlled by the chair and ranking minority video.-- member of the committee of appropriations. mr. simpson and the gentleman from virginia will each control mr. moran will each control 15 minutes. >> i ask unanimous consent to include extraneous material on hj residence 70 and that i may tack on material. >> without objection. i yield myself as much time as i may consume. here we are again. we were here yesterday with republicans trying to open the

we look forward to reopening all 401 national parks. the closure did not apply to through roads and park that -- point located outside the parks such as rock creek parkway. it also did not affect first amendment activities on the national mall and memorial parks and independent national historic park in philadelphia due to regulations in court cases specific to these areas. because these two areases are long standing venue for hundreds of first amendment activities each year, we anticipate there had would be the potential for such activities during the shut down. the major park service maintain law enforcement -- provided by the u.s. park release and rangers for emergency and disaster assistance. we maintained our fire fighting programming with board -- projects that were funded with nonlapsing appropriations of also continued. there has been lot of attention on the national mall. there are among the many places that the national park service cares for the honor for those that have fought and died for our nation. we are proud of the spec

this is such a wonderful success story for our country, the national park service. to be asked to shut them down can, especially under these circumstances, must be awful. and i remember i just served six years in the california legislature, i chaired the parks committee. we went through our own parks crisis, and it is your agency that was helping us save parks from closure. you stepped up, you believe in your public lands and our parks and the people and communities they serve, and i want to thank you for your service. i can only imagine the indignity of having to sit there and listen to all of these baseless axises, to listen to -- accusations, so listen to a witness who fronts for the oil and gas and coal industries and sues environmental agencies to try to prevent them from implementing environmental laws tell you that you are a terrible environmental steward, accuse you of hiding behind the veneer of popularity for our parks to actually do harm to our parks and our environment. it is a disgrace that you have had to listen to this indignity, that you've had to sit

and our national park. the month of october is a very wonderful month, a beautiful month to be the grand canyon and we started off with 90 plus percent occupancy at the end of september for reservations on the books ready to come. the least in one hotel. we are in the low 40% and dropping. we have lost over $400,000 in one place alone. the impact to our community has been in the millions of dollars within a very short matter of time. and all of this because elected members of congress and the president cannot come to grips with passing and getting a budget going. in the meantime, in the front lines we feel kind of like we are the ball bouncing back and forth and the ones that are paying the bill. and suddenly our source of business and income for our little community is closed as of october 1 and we immediately began to ask questions with regards to how we can do it come out with the darker crack open and in 1995, the same thing happen within a reasonably short period of time, there was an agreement between

i believe that is the responsibility of the national park service to work cooperatively with the local jurisdiction in which our parks are located. in this situation, as you mentioned, we have recreational areas that are in a urban metropolitan area and reflect the needs of users inviting there. supervisor, as i have in the past, i want to renew my offer to assist you in working with the national park service. nps needs to cooperate with local jurisdiction. hopefully, the city's comments, my own, and the users of nps will create a dog management plan that recognizes the need for both governmental agencies to serve the public multiple needs. last week, constituents and my desert extension of the public comment. given the recent government shutdown since [inaudible] the actual plan itself, right here, 2700 pages, i too believe that additional time for comment and analysis should be allowed by nps. but constituents have requested a public comment period be extended to at least february 17. thank you again for supervisor winner and staff. supervisor obelisk, and supervisor came for your le

i love the national parks. i was very concerned about the disrepair at rainier and several of the others, and also concerned about the accessibility for handicapped people. at some point in time i'd actually like to visit the parks and assess the needs for improvement. how would i go about contacting you for something like that? guest: please, go to our website, it's contact information. or you can certainly call in washington, d.c., at our headquarters. what i would recommend is that you contact your member of congress. we really appreciate your membership and support with the national park conservation association. contact your member of congress, encourage your friends to do the same. let them know that national parks deserve to be funded. 90% of americans in a recent poll said they believe it's a federal, primary federal responsibility to fund the national parks. to make sure that our monuments, our national resources and cultural resources are taken care of. we expect those as americans because these are ou

this idea of national parks. atter is the government shutdown, the last one we saw was 17 years ago. they're a rare phenomenon. it didn't even matter in this particular shutdown. we saw the private parks that were closed down with the government shutdown like the parking lot of mount vernon. i wouldn't matter. >> the national parks go back a long time, back to teddy rose vent. >> i wasn't -- teddy roosevelt. >> i wasn't around them. the u.s. forest service, the budget has been axed but they haven't closed any parks because they have over 1,000 parks that are run by private operators. rick will have a heart attack the capitalists are coming but they don't own the land. they charge lower fees to get in. listen, they a lot of capital expenditures here. use the money to fix up the park, not clean out the bathrooms. >> farming out the duties of the park. >> i was around when teddy roosevelt was around. >> what do you think of mike's idea? >> these are national parks. i don't understand how you can show concern about ta

i love national parks. i support them fully and i want full funding for these parks above the awful sequester levels but what about the cancer trials at nih? what about the low income mothers who has been cut off from wic? we used to give them trail maxes kidsxes as a snack but my always wanted to pick out the m&ms. that is what the republican majority has been used to. -- reduced to. i hope the republican jordy will grow out. we can do this the right way. we can class a see -- a clean cr. it is time for them to put on their grown-up pants and do their job. >> the gentleman from idaho reserves create >> there are millions of visitors every year to the bureau of land management and yet the entire blm is closed down because of the shutdown. i would like to yield 30 seconds to the distinguished ranking member of the rules committee. >> thank you. wes than 12 hours from where were last night, maybe a little longer. you discovered shutting down the government is not as funny as you thought it was when you came f

all units of the national park system have got it are guided by the same nps national park policies [inaudible] national historic site, at such a good [inaudible] amended 1970 best we must remove nps from managing the gg nra. either revert back to the city or [inaudible] federal agency that can manage the national recreation area. thank you. >> thank you. next he can >> speaker >> my name is [inaudible] on the publisher they will the greater separate cisco area monthly dog lovers newspaper. i want to thank the supervisors for hearing this issue and to scout winner for bringing it up. we really appreciate your support. i know it's extremely frustrating for the gg nra to have introduced their 2nd round of this opposed restriction without having acknowledged any of the comments that many people made huge efforts to get to them. their new proposal, 2700 pages long is pretty daunting. it's really great that you brought it up. i think that the fact that the city and the state owns most of these properties and have wasted or granted the national park service the ability to monitor them and t

service reading someone is paying the national park service overtime for their efforts to carry out the orders of their fear or where are our constitutional sheriffs who can revoked. sure service rangers authority to arrest do we have any sheriffs who appear really national park service is the only thing i've heard that one before in all serious though seriousness though representative barton's facebook post is just another example of the boiling hatred those on the extreme right feel toward our president and every day government workers and that it's very very ugly.

and the other problem is that you voted to shut down the national parks. you did it last week. you voted to shut down the national institutes of health. you did it last weekend. you voted to shut down the veterans administration and now you want to reopen just them. we voted against shutting down those agencies. we voted against shutting down the government. give us a clean vote. let's stop this nonsense. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. members are reminded to address all remarks to the chair. the gentleman from idaho. mr. simpson: how much time do i have remaining the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. simpson: we are pretty good friends and share a lot to our interior subcommittee, what it remipeds me of when i listen to my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, if you say something long enough, maybe you will get the american people to believe it. no one over here voted to shut down the government. every time we passed the bill and sent it to the senate, it was to keep the government operating. did it include mo

access to visitors who planned their vacations and spent thousands of dollars to tour yellow stone national park. bus tour director gordon hodgins some park rangers use tactics better suited for the gestapo. i want to tell you about the experience that you and your tour group had at yellowstone. >> a pleasure to be here. i've been working as a tour guide forring about eight years. best job in the world taking people into our national parks. always had a good experience with the national park service, the rangers, the concession people. to have our group treated the way we were our last trip in was amazing. we were prevented from accessing any of the wonderful sights in yellowstone national park, g geyser bay since. i tried to take my group out that they were promised they would see. we saw a group of bison along the side of the road and stopped to take pictures of them. immediately a ranger pulled up and asked who was in charge. he said you need to get back on your bus no recreating in the park. i said we just want to take pictures of the bison. she said sir there's no recreating in the park. ar

but no one can get in. >> at mount rainier national park there is trouble in paradise. the mountain is hit with an early and heavy snowstorm. down blow at the park's main entrance there is a cold reception of a different kind. park visitors are being turned away. >> we thought we would be hiking for days and days in the national park. >> ann and her family planned their two-week vacation months ago, flying in from fort myers, florida. >> our own government is holding us hostage practically because they can't figure out a way to deal with situations. >> as part of the government shutdown 192 mountai 192 mount r employees are now furloughed. they received their notices on tuesday. >> we're not going to have adequate staffing to provide the type of access, the type of services or certainly to respond to emergencies that people do get into here. >> only essential staff and law enforcement are staying on. no one knows if they'll get paid for their work. mount rainier national park is 370 square miles of wilderness and beauty. october usually brings 130,000 visitors. every day

access to visitors who planned their vacations and spent thousands of dollars to tour yellowstone national parkrector gordon hodgens says some park rangers used tactics that were better suited for the gestapo. he joins us now. gordon, thanks for being here. i want you to tell us about the experience that you and your tour group had at yellowstone. >> yes, sir. well, it's a pleasure to be here. i've been working as a tour guide for about eight years. best job in the world taking people into our national parks. i always had a good experience with the national park service, rangers, the concessionares. to have our group treated the way we were our last trip in was just really amazing. we were prevented from accessing any of the wonderful sites and yellowstone national park. all of the geyser basins, roads, accesses all were blockaded. i took my group out to try and see some of the sights they'd been promised they would see when they signed up for their tour. we saw a group of bison alongside the road and stopped to take some pictures of them. but immediately a ranger pulled up and asked who was in

as you can imagine, the national park service is responsible for the protection of our national parksto furlough 85% of their workers' they do not have the staff to keep the parks open and to maintain and provide the type of public safety and assurances that people of a visiting can count on. all of the 401 national parks were required to close. >> the national park service director joined us on the phone last week and talked about the decision to allow veterans access to the world war ii memorial after there were not allowed to see the memorial. let's play that and have you respond. >> it is open to veterans that are arriving as a part of the first amendment activities. we know that the decision is a closure of the 401 national parks across the country, we would still honor first amendment activities on the national mall, on the lips and on the grounds at independence in philadelphia because these are probably the most important sites for the exercise of the first amendment of the constitution and particularly in these troubling times. american citizens want to exercise that right, s

tonight, yosemite national park has already reopened, and the white house is telling nearly 1 million furloughed workers to return to their jobs tomorrow. the bill opens the government through january 15, and extends the nation's borrowing authority through february 7. president obama already signed it, but as ktvu's heather holmes tells us now, the only a short term solution. >> reporter: the good news? no historic default. the bad news? it's only for a few months and there are no guarantees republicans and democrats will be able to bridge the rest. tonight's last minute legislative deal brings the government and yosemite national park back to life. >> this is pain inflicted on our nation for no good reason. we can't make the same mistake

but you're also looking at 86% of national park service employees furloughed. just routine maintenance that goes into keeping these parks at the standard that we would expect them to be in and that we want them to be in. how much of that maintenance is not being done right now? >> this is something what i've talked to park supervisors lately, they talk about as resource degradation, they go down to a bare bones law enforcement staff. but essentially, you have these great treasures of the u.s. that are exposed to potentially to vandalism, erosion, just all of the sorts of things where they can fall into disrepair following these closures. >> i think your voice is to important here. the washington talk about saying what's essential and nonessential government is a very d.c. focused view. we have these areas all over the country and they are the pride of america because unlike a lot of places on earth, we don't just sell off our national treasures and some of the most beautiful areas to the highest bidder or let one rich people hold the land. we have a lot of area

some national parks are closed tonight. someone mood one of the barriers to allow people of world war ii to get inside and access the open site. a spokesperson from the park service said they're no longer trying to hold anyone back from that particular memorial. we will be hearing rumbles veterans coming up tonight at 6:00. the government shutdown extends to heads are as well. about 20 programs nationwide are feeling the impact. none of them in our area. d.c. andt programs in maryland could feel the effect. >> the epicenter of the shutdown is the president's health care plan. most republicans won it delayed for a year. some say the affordable care act is now of money. all americans must have health insurance. we have the details. places this ont the online insurance marketplace exceeding anything he expected. more than 2.8 million people have visited.gov. healthcare.gov. do not call it the accessible care act. at least not today. huge demand overwhelming the governments health care exchange website on the first day of enroll

you were vacations in big bend park, national park in texas last week but you were thrown out of the park when the federal government shutdown and then an official at the national park suggested you relocate to the state park to continue your vacation and that, ricky, i think is where the trouble started. tell me what happened next. >> well, we picked a trail we thought was a loop and we were under the impression that it wasn't that hard, you know, to do and we took off for a day hike and packed enough water and food for one day and we got about a little over half way and we were up of water, out of food and it was getting dark, and so we just -- we had to pull up and sleep -- we just laid down right on the ground there and went to sleep and, i said we'll get up the next morning and finish it out. we'll be okay. the next morning we got up and took off, and it was just too -- too much up and downs and then it got hot without water, we just couldn't make it and had to stop short and just left us out there and, you know, we traveled right before dark, a little bit further and actually fo

you were vacations in big bend park, national park in texas last week but you were thrown out of the park when the federal government shutdown and then an official at the national park suggested you relocate to the state park to continue your vacation and that, ricky, i think is where the trouble started. tell me what happened next. >> well, we picked a trail we thought was a loop and we were under the impression that it wasn't that hard, you know, to do and we took off for a day hike and packed enough water and food for one day and we got about a little over half way and we were up of water, out of food and it was getting dark, and so we just -- we had to pull up and sleep -- we just laid down right on the ground there and went to sleep and, i said we'll get up the next morning and finish it out. we'll be okay. the next morning we got up and took off, and it was just too -- too much up and downs and then it got hot without water, we just couldn't make it and had to stop short and just left us out there and, you know, we traveled right before dark, a little bit further and actually fo

things like national parks, the d.c. government, and the veterans administration. democrats will only agree to fund the entire government. and its effort to defund obamacare. >> it is the only responsible solution. >> some house republicans are saying it is time to pass a continuing resolution that would temporarily fund the government without any strings attached. >> president obama and congressional leaders from both parties will sit down at the white house to try to work out a deal. man bradley, abc news, capitol hill. use asident obama will company in rockville, maryland as an example of why the shutdown needs to end. talking about how the shutdown could harm small businesses. >> democratic senators held a press conference urging the house to pass a bill for negotiations to continue. this government shutdown is hurting. it is hurting our economy. sequestration is stupid. [applause] istting on the government stupidity on steroids. >> they gave federal workers a chance to talk about how the shutdown is affecting them. one worker urged congress to end of the shutd

. >> national parks are losing $76 million a day. because of the shut down. >> they show yost semi national park lost 160,000 visitors and more than $10 million in revenue. >> the coalition of national park employees is hurting local economies. and disappointing tourists. >> five different state have opted to reopen national parks using their own money. >> it come it is at the height. and it is now it effected work. and starting tomorrow, they are expecting to shutting down operations and at least 5500 workers will be furloughed beginning wednesday. >> four or 500 involved in security will remain on tight. >> yesterday, they geared in livermore to hear the fate of their jobs. >> some say this could force people to work in the private sector. >> people may feel passion at but if they can't make ends neat with the paycheck. they have to leave. >> that is one of the leading research centers from everything from weapons to super computers. >> they are handling the dry ice explosion. >> it happened in the bathroom of terminal two. >> the

trails on national park service property could be shut down even if they're not managed by the park service. those include rock creek trail and anna costs city ya river trail and george monument river trail -- tweet your signs you see that you to us. >> earlier tonight house of representatives defeated a bill. the d.c. council would have paid thousands of d.c. workers out of an emergency cash reserve fund and there's enough to support government operations for a few weeks if necessary. >> the shut down is having a major impact on the local economy. d.c. area will lose $200 million each day. the tourism industry lost millions of dollars during the 1995 shut down when museums and parks were closed. the veterans benefits administration won't be able to process benefits. the board of veterans appeals will not hold hearings. the national institute of health stopped accepting new patients. they will stop afternoons swerg medical hotline calls -- answering. in addition countless children will have to stay home because their schools and daycare centers are closed. bob barnard joins us with that par

all 401 national parks closed along with national museums as well as many zoos. post office, passport offices, air traffic control and, of course, the pentagon all those open. what if you have defined payments you need to worry about, social security checks? they're still going to go out. there's a lot of detail here and subtlety about who will get impacted. let's get to christine romans to look deeper at this. what do we see. >> reporter: it looks like congress has hung a big sorry we're closed sign on some of the biggest agencies and programs and most famous attractions. it's a sign of major washington dysfunction. this morning, hundreds of thousands of federal civil service employees are waking up to their new furlough status. >> our economy is going to be affected by it. and that is squarely -- scary. it's too much for lower middle class people to deal with right now. >> reporter: all across the country, national monuments, zoos and parks closed for business. >> along with the government shutdown comes the closure of all the nation's national parks, that incl

will save >>> well, the white house reveing itself and now agreeing to let states reope some national parks states have to do itith the own moy. tourists and private businesses voicing outrage about being locked out of parks acro america in the partial shutdown. steve, you have a plan to keep national parks from ever becoming a political bargaining chip again. what is it? >> david, that is to privatize them. if you don't want to ivatize the whole thing, privati the operations so you don't have the shutdowns and make sure you don't have bureaucrats toree national park service wouldn't shut down parks tat were being privately operated. this is an outrage designed to raise publi opinion ire against what is happening in washington, against the republicans. put it inthe hands of people that know how to run them. >> morga privatize the federal pas? good plan or not? >> whave a bett chance to privatize thet.s.a. first. it's an american institution. american history, something that has been exported across the world. this idea of naon parks. the truth of the matter is the government shutdown, the l

this is not one of those faraway national park. this is in the middle of our city. all i could to see [inaudible] once or twice a year at ocean park. just like moving the san one way or the other and then we come [inaudible] that golden retriever [inaudible] that doesn't make any sense. so we need to bring clarity to this. we need to involve our elected officials [inaudible] and what i really want to [inaudible] i don't know what we would be doing without what you are doing to make sure that interest of the residence [inaudible] the way we like to live in our city which is different than other cities. so thank you very much and i support the resolution. >> thank you. next speaker. >> from elizabeth [inaudible], dog owner property owner. i moved to san francisco about 9 years ago i just adopted to dogs about 2 years ago. the population of dogs increasing in san francisco, which actually we need more space for them to be able to run a free, we humans have adopted them as part of our family, and therefore, they are also citizens of san francisco. they don't have a voice

service's personnel to reopen national parks in their states. ll no luck for this little guy permit his picture of side nationals or sentence to has gone by roper red labeled by want to return as the status shutdown followed you will see. --the saddest shutdown photo you will ever see. his >>erica: the morning and happy friday. starting off at with the live look outside from our roof camera. we have some patchy fog. you know this visibility down to a half mile and santa rosa. certainly drive with extra caution. we do have some fog and the north bay and the coast. take a look at the bottle. 41 degrees right now and these are a bigger morning lows. the temperatures will continue to drop as we head into sunrise. 45 degrees in santa rosa. 43 currently and now. temperatures will actually be dropped into the upper 30's. it is definitely called out there so you will definitely want to bundle up. '70s out here for pleasanton livermore san francisco on the cooler side as 64 degrees. your 7 day around the bay forecast shows a modest warming trend as we get

we have national parks. but you didn't take care of my recreation land under the army corps or the b.l.m. land. this whole notion of funding the government piecemeal is absurd. this is the greatest nation on earth and all you can do is come here with these little mini piecemeal bills? let's face it, we wouldn't be going through any of this angst and my friend wouldn't have to have any of that emotion if the republicans had not shut down the government. let me tell you under the rest of my reservation, we certainly support the notion that our parks should open. but we also support the notion that this government should open. and if people over there don't like certain functions, let's duke it out here and find out which you have the votes to do away with. i know a lot of you don't like the clean air act, the safe drinking water act. fine. let's fight that out. i see my colleague is here from wyoming. he and i, we're constantly debating the issue of what should be a priority, but you don't do it this way. we ne

at this national park 280 employees have been furloughed until the government reopens. ng in the park had until today to get out. >> our main phone line are not active because we don't have someone who can staff them all day. however we do have people at different park entrances to notify the public. >>reporter: tomorrow business opens and people who work and life in 3 rivers will all be driving up to the national park to if ban the shut down. if this rally starts tomorrow at 12 noon. at sequoia national park, abc 7 news. >> just 7 days remain before possible bart strike and in a hopeful sign both sides are still talking tonight in oakland. management studying the latest offer by the union. workers lowered the base pay proposal to increase below 15 percent over three years. >> they should have no problem agreeing the to our proposal that was presented last night.so we are expecting an agreement. >>reporter: observers say that may bit operate miss taking. union and bart were 100 million dollars a part. bart never made counteroffer since the talk gaichbility we appreciate

m >> the national park service says its monuments are closed. >> it shuttered about 400 national parks including the grand canyon and the statueatue of liberty. a lot of places you don't think about.thi you take your vacations, those are shutdown as well.ell we've plenty ahead. >> fox 5 morning news at 4:30 starts now. >> announcer: this is fox 5 morning news. >> live look outside at 4:29 on this thursday morning.orni rather warm start to your day. it was a little warm yesterday. we're going to call it warm, not hot of the we can call it hot or warm and hospital what are way you want to go with that. so we're going to see how things are going to shake out today. i'm wisdom martin. >> i'm sara simmons. tucker -- >> hi. >> been pretty nice. >>ty it has been. has >> how would you describe it, yesterday? >> very warm. very warm. >> ok. not quite crossing to hot but very warm. >> all right.igh we'll go with it. >> i agree. it's not hot. >> when it gets hot i'll turn on the air. yesterday i didn't turn on the air.th >> i'm impressed you've been holding back.ack mine is on an automatic. now w

that's why right around the corner the gates to the national park are locked. this is what the government shut down looks like 8,000 feet above sea level. >> i don't think i'm ever going to be back to colorado, this is my one chance to see it. >> tourists are make a u-turn out of town. tina owns mountain shadows resort. this time of year she should be full, 16 guests. >> how many are here now. >> well, three. >> this has all the makings of a man made natural disaster. it comes on the heels of another disaster. crippling floods. >> we thought we had lost the infrastructure under our main street. >> the area has been scrambling to recover. what's harder to see is the economic damage. >> about 15 feet higher, you can see across there. >> gary and his family sandba sandbagged, the timing of the shutdown continue be worse. >> we're about 70% down from normal this time of year. the fall is really our profit time. it kind of paid for everything with the summer. >> just one long winding way in from the south. with winter coming and no signs of progress in washington es

a new report by the coalition on national park service retirees shows national parks are losing some $76 million in visitor spending each day the shutdown drags on. the report also concludes more than 40,000 nonpark service jobs are at risk, a dozen of the busiest national parks. >>> well, national park vacation is one thing but did you realize the government shutdown could even be preventing furloughed workers from drowning their sorrows? kpix 5's john ramos found a bay area brewery where the fight in washington is mighty hard to swallow. >>> reporter: one look at the employee lounge at the lagunitas brewery in petaluma reveals its irreverent hippie roots. but a look at the brewing operation itself shows how successful the business has become shipping 400,000 barrels a year to major retailers nationwide. >> for craft beer, a lot of the volume and a lot of the interest of it is coming out with, you know, different seasonal products. >> reporter: brown shuga is very popular but it's difficult to brusseau the company created an alternate formula that they jokingly named lagunitas sucks

the national park service turned off about 45,000 and its 330 workers from the national mall have an furloughed. team coverage of the shutdown and the impact on you continues online. you can see what is getting shutdown if the process continues, and the top 20 things you should know about a shutdown on our website and mobile app. forid you try to sign up health care today with no luck? you are not alone. our newsroom was what it with e- mails when the site first opened. many people experienced several technical issues. one was sent to another website from maryland before receiving an error message. >> you go to the website and it ends you to another website. you go there, and you are trying to go forward. it says to click for updates. you scroll to the bottom and the last update a sickly said, experiencing difficulties and will probably be up by noon or something like that. >> i checked the website again tonight, a couple of times. the same thing. an error message. officials say they are working to fix those problems. >> a federal judge has refused to block maryland's is new gun- con

congress is adding things in the parks that are not significant in terms of national interest. what we have is most treasured resources, the big parks with the maintenance backlog in excess of 2 million. coburn said his report began long before the sequester even existed. alisyn. >> thank you doug for breaking that down. >> we have a question for the judge. could the troubled roll out for americans to break the law. the judge will have answers on that in a moment. >>> plus we all make mistakes. even iconic movie. never before seen star wars bloopers. >> and we'll see it. yes. my customers can shop around. but it doesn't usually work that way with health care. with unitedhealthcare, i get information on quality rated doctors, treatment options and cost estimates, so we can ke better health decisions. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. sthshgs autosales are down but housing market is showing good signs. the case schiller index that measures 20 major cities show the biggest gains and las vegas one of the biggest cities hit bite recession has seen a jump in home prices. >>

that's because right around the corner the gates to the national park are locked. this is what the government shutdown looks like 8,000 feet above sea level. >> i don't think i'll be back to colorado to tell the truth. my one chance to be here, this is what i'm going see. >> reporter: thanks to gridlock in washington thousands of tourists are making a u-turn out of town. >> reporter: tina owns mountain shadows resort. she said this time of year she would usually be full, 16 guests. >> how many are here? >> three. >> reporter: this has all the makings of a manmade economic disaster because it comes hard on the heels of a natural disaster. just as the park is just recovering from last month's crippling floods. >> we had two to four feet of water running down the street. we thought we lost the infrastructure under the street. >> reporter: the town actually looks great although signs of the devastation do linger. but what is harder to see is the economic damage. >> it's 15 feet higher. >> reporter: gary and his son sandbagged the family's fishing shop, successfully kee