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and who is, natisha, stacy howe? >> as tom o'neal was saying earlier, stacy howe is the manager for arnold klein's office back in california. so possibly investigators were trying to link these two doctors together, talking about the medication that they were giving to michael jackson. >> right. now there is some other things that they -- a cricket phone receipt, a letter, some other things they did seize from the office including a forensic image of his business computer. and again, we heard the vials of the two drugs. now let's move on to the storage unit. there is a lot of interesting things they found there. and one of them that we just -- just hinted about was documents regarding an incomplete chart from doctors hospital and a suspension notice from doctors hospital. now dr. oliver, could he have been suspended for not filling charts out properly? >> definitely he could have been suspended for not filling out charts. that's common reason doctors are suspended from hospitals, for not keeping up their paperwork. >
and who is, natisha, stacy howe? >> as tom o'neal was saying earlier, stacy howe is the manager for arnold klein's office back in california. so possibly investigators were trying to link these two doctors together, talking about the medication that they were giving to michael jackson. >> right. now there is some other things that they -- a cricket phone receipt, a letter, some other things they did seize from the office including a forensic image of his business computer. and...
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we didn't know -- natisha, isn't that right? >> that's absolutely right. no confirmation it was caylee yet. >> but we know what they're going after, the prosecution. and mark, we don't know that they're even going to use that, right? >> that's correct. but going back to your original point, in order for this defense to work, it appears that they're sticking with casey's original story, and that is that it wasn't her who took down her own daughter. it was zanny the nanny, the first building block is you've got to prove that person exists. >> guys, we're just getting loose. hang tight. >>> welcome back to "prime news." wild police chase coming up in utah. we've got a slow, erratic driver. some weaving back and forth, blowing through stop signs, as expected. the driver you see there, all of 7 years old. you've got to see how this one ends. and a nice turn there by the 7-year-old, mind you. call us on that one, 1-877-tell-hln. >>> this story as well. authorities in hollywood, florida, they're investigating shocking allegations that four of their own officers t
we didn't know -- natisha, isn't that right? >> that's absolutely right. no confirmation it was caylee yet. >> but we know what they're going after, the prosecution. and mark, we don't know that they're even going to use that, right? >> that's correct. but going back to your original point, in order for this defense to work, it appears that they're sticking with casey's original story, and that is that it wasn't her who took down her own daughter. it was zanny the nanny, the...
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i want to go back to natisha lance.atisha, we predicted that women would crawl out of the woodwork claiming they are the bio mom of the three children. now, an alleged bio son has crawled out of the woodwork. what's that about? >> yes. elmer batty, 25 years old. allegedly he was at the memorial for michael jackson. his mother is named pia batty. apparently according to reports they lived at neverland for a certain period of time. not only is she the mother of this child, she allegedly is also the mother of michael jackson's youngest child, blanket. like you said, people are crawling out of the woodwork and i guess you have to question the sources. is this about a legitimate claim -- >> hold on, natisha. look at the screen. we are showing the jackson family at jackson's memorial. there's a red arrow on the left of the screen pointing to this young man. >> right. we haven't been able to confirm it. you have to question the sources. you have to wonder, is it a legitimate claim or just because it's michael jackson and there
i want to go back to natisha lance.atisha, we predicted that women would crawl out of the woodwork claiming they are the bio mom of the three children. now, an alleged bio son has crawled out of the woodwork. what's that about? >> yes. elmer batty, 25 years old. allegedly he was at the memorial for michael jackson. his mother is named pia batty. apparently according to reports they lived at neverland for a certain period of time. not only is she the mother of this child, she allegedly is...
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lts's get natisha lance in on this. la tisha, producer from the nancy grace quoeg show right here on hln. natisha, first off, do you have anything to add on leonard, before we move on? >> yeah. one of the other things that this document emphasizes is that leonard padilla nor his team represent the baez law firm. so again, that plays into what pam is talking about, that they were not hired employees by jose baez. but rather leonard padilla came in on his own accord. i also spoke with tony padilla today, and he said at no time were they ever employees of jose baez. >> natisha, they want to maik -- it has to do with equisearch. what are they going for here making equi search? >> they think tim miller would be a great material witness. he has a lot of insight into the places that were searched. also that area where caylee's remains were eventually found, they had searched that area before. so jose baez wants to have access to all the charts, records, maps that equisearch had access to. >> possibly going for them. i'm guessi
lts's get natisha lance in on this. la tisha, producer from the nancy grace quoeg show right here on hln. natisha, first off, do you have anything to add on leonard, before we move on? >> yeah. one of the other things that this document emphasizes is that leonard padilla nor his team represent the baez law firm. so again, that plays into what pam is talking about, that they were not hired employees by jose baez. but rather leonard padilla came in on his own accord. i also spoke with tony...
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>> out to natisha. did they search any properties in las vegas?we don't have any information on that. we have a cnn reporter that says it looked like the las vegas office was completely shut down. there was a drape over the window and a note on the door that said to contact the building manager. it doesn't seem like that las vegas office is still in business. >> now, natisha, how much do we know about dr. murray and how long has he known michael jackson? what was their first contact? >> we know he's a cardiologist. he met michael jackson in 2006. and at that time michael jackson parentally started referring to dr. murray for medical treatment as well as they have a friendship according to conrad murray's pr spokesperson. but then he was also signed on once michael jackson signed on to do this tour with aeg, he was going to be the personal physician for that. 'parentally conducted this very long extensive physical that michael jackson underwent for that. getting him ready for. this he was on call for michael jackson during his last hours as well. >
>> out to natisha. did they search any properties in las vegas?we don't have any information on that. we have a cnn reporter that says it looked like the las vegas office was completely shut down. there was a drape over the window and a note on the door that said to contact the building manager. it doesn't seem like that las vegas office is still in business. >> now, natisha, how much do we know about dr. murray and how long has he known michael jackson? what was their first...
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natisha, now, we know all this information dates back to 2004. the reason it's significant, it sort of sets a pattern for the way michael jackson was leading his life in the final years. but at this point, do we know how many doctors are being investigated, or questioned by los angeles authorities, the dea and everyone else who is looking at this case, the death of michael jackson? >> we can't say for certain how apparently was and if he hasn't already been questioned, i'm sure that he will be questioned by authorities sometime soon. >> you know, anita, if i look at this case and if we look at who's getting what here, from the doctors' perspective, what we're all wondering here is, is someone else responsible for the death of michael jackson and is this case going to end up being a homicide investigation. from that perspective, the doctors, does it really go to the records that the doctors have or getting a smoking gun that a dr. knows he's doing something he knows he's not supposed to be doing? >> it will come down to the records, how much medic
natisha, now, we know all this information dates back to 2004. the reason it's significant, it sort of sets a pattern for the way michael jackson was leading his life in the final years. but at this point, do we know how many doctors are being investigated, or questioned by los angeles authorities, the dea and everyone else who is looking at this case, the death of michael jackson? >> we can't say for certain how apparently was and if he hasn't already been questioned, i'm sure that he...
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natisha lance also with us who's going to be inside, as well. what doo we know about who's running the whole thing here? who is deciding what's going to take place at this memorial? >> well, the person who is behind it, first aeg has been largely involved but some of the people involved with production are people who work on the grammys. kobe bryant is going to be involved, magic johnson, brooke shields, jennifer hudson, barry gordie, john mayer. mariah carrey is another person. a lot of celebrity who are going to be involved and as the person who just received tibbetts said, it's probably going to be a big show. so, everybody is very looking forward to what's going to happen tomorrow. i know that i certainly am. >> let's get to some of our callers. mand is in tennessee. good evening, amanda amanda, you're on the air. >> caller: hello? >> yes, you're on the air. >> caller: hi, how are you? >> okay. >> caller: i was calling to make a comment about the death of michael jackson and tell a quick story about one of his songs saved my life. >> sure, a
natisha lance also with us who's going to be inside, as well. what doo we know about who's running the whole thing here? who is deciding what's going to take place at this memorial? >> well, the person who is behind it, first aeg has been largely involved but some of the people involved with production are people who work on the grammys. kobe bryant is going to be involved, magic johnson, brooke shields, jennifer hudson, barry gordie, john mayer. mariah carrey is another person. a lot of...
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joining me now to talk about this, natisha lance, the producer of the "nancy grace" show. natisha, tell us what do we know about cindy? was it questioning just yesterday, yesterday and day? >> cindy anthony questioned four hours yesterday. they had more questions for her. so she came back again today. more questioning for her. george anthony reportedly was supposed to be questioned today, but because they wanted to spend more time with cindy, she was in the hot seat once again. lee anthony's attorney, he's going to be questioned tomorrow morning and reportedly george anthony will be back there next week for more questioning. >> lee tomorrow, george next week. do we have any idea, natisha, what's being said? what are the questions? what she's saying? anything at all? >> we have no idea what's being said at this point. this is not a public record. this is the state's depositions that are going on. however, they could be made available at some time in the future. through the discovery process. and actually, we're going to be getting more discovery tomorrow, about 1,500 pages
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joining me now with more, natisha lance, producer for "nancy grace." dr. reef karim, a psychiatrist and addiction specialist. and editor for us weekly cover. us weekly's cover stor, truth about the kids hits newsstands today. natisha, what is this 2007, an intervention, sister janet trying to get this thing going? what happened? >> more and more keeps coming out, vinnie. 2007, janet jackson paid a visit to her brother, michael jackson, she found him to be very emaciated and took it upon herself to try to decide to stage an intervention with the help of some of her brothers. they were apparently not on board. michael jackson apparently caught wind of this. he told his security officers around his home not to let any family members. if they came by. also he was not taking calls from his mother, katherine jackson. and on further note, as you had mentioned, "people" magazine ran a story about this alleged intervention that was supposed to take place, and what ended up happening the family released a statement there was not going to be an intervention, everybod
joining me now with more, natisha lance, producer for "nancy grace." dr. reef karim, a psychiatrist and addiction specialist. and editor for us weekly cover. us weekly's cover stor, truth about the kids hits newsstands today. natisha, what is this 2007, an intervention, sister janet trying to get this thing going? what happened? >> more and more keeps coming out, vinnie. 2007, janet jackson paid a visit to her brother, michael jackson, she found him to be very emaciated and took...
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joining us to talk about it, natisha lance, producer from hln's nancy grace show. also with us, pam bondi and mike brooks. natisha, before we backtrack here for everybody, as we commemorate a sad day, the first the year ago the 911 call. tell us, anything with the investigation, anything new in the case, the investigation? >> well, i actually spoke to someone over the state prosecutor -- the state attorney's office today, and they told me there is still more discovery that has yet to be released. they hope to do that by the end of the month. what is compiled in these are things that are going to be on a disc. it is mostly photographs. no more paper documents. i spoke to someone over at the sheriff's office today, and what they told me is that the sheriff's office still continues to work very closely with the state attorney's office, however, i also asked them if this is still an open investigation, are they still trying to determine how kayley anthony died, because that was not determined, even from the autopsy report, and they couldn't give me an answer on that, b
joining us to talk about it, natisha lance, producer from hln's nancy grace show. also with us, pam bondi and mike brooks. natisha, before we backtrack here for everybody, as we commemorate a sad day, the first the year ago the 911 call. tell us, anything with the investigation, anything new in the case, the investigation? >> well, i actually spoke to someone over the state prosecutor -- the state attorney's office today, and they told me there is still more discovery that has yet to be...
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. >> and to you, natisha lance, on the story from the very beginning, what can you tell me about grandmother katherine jackson being manipulated into trying to declare michael jackson incompetent at the time he signed his will? >> well, katherine jackson filed a petition today, nancy, and in
. >> and to you, natisha lance, on the story from the very beginning, what can you tell me about grandmother katherine jackson being manipulated into trying to declare michael jackson incompetent at the time he signed his will? >> well, katherine jackson filed a petition today, nancy, and in
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. >>> out to natisha lance, our producer, standing by there in l.a. you tell me about reports that in his dying breath, he was robbed of about $2 million and a cache of jewels? >> right. this is coming from la toya jackson. what she's saying, michael jackson always kept a certain amount of money on his property, and when they got to the house and started moving things out of the house, that money and those jewels were all gone. >> and what about the video? apparently this $100,000 a month rental home he was living in with his children had very elaborate high-tech security system, every inch of the place was under video monitoring, including his living quarters, but reports are there's a gap in the video of the time just before his death, natisha. >> right, nancy. reportedly, there was this video all around, in and about the area in the house where michael jackson was staying. it caught his collapse on this video. however, the video is missing along with a suitcase that also contained another i.v. pole, more drugs, and also syringes. >> out to the line
. >>> out to natisha lance, our producer, standing by there in l.a. you tell me about reports that in his dying breath, he was robbed of about $2 million and a cache of jewels? >> right. this is coming from la toya jackson. what she's saying, michael jackson always kept a certain amount of money on his property, and when they got to the house and started moving things out of the house, that money and those jewels were all gone. >> and what about the video? apparently this...
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let's begin with you, natisha. what is the latest in the investigation and what we're learning here about michael jackson's arms and these marks and his convenience? >> right. just as you said, vinnie, two sources are now telling cnn that michael jackson's arms were full of track marks. they're saying these track marks would be consistent with regular i.v. drug use. in which case it could be a possibility that dep ri van was involved here. they're also saying some of these tracks marks were newer ones, and the newer ones could have come from michael jackson, with the paramedics when he lapsed from his home and i.v.s from that. we do know there were prescription medications that were found at michael jackson's home. the associated press reported previously that law enforcement source told them that some of those bottles were diprivan at the home. couple this, vinnie, with another source who told cnn that michael jackson traveled with a mini krinic of sorts, with an i.v. pole and anesthesiologist, dr. neil ratner. dr
let's begin with you, natisha. what is the latest in the investigation and what we're learning here about michael jackson's arms and these marks and his convenience? >> right. just as you said, vinnie, two sources are now telling cnn that michael jackson's arms were full of track marks. they're saying these track marks would be consistent with regular i.v. drug use. in which case it could be a possibility that dep ri van was involved here. they're also saying some of these tracks marks...
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. >> let's go straight out to natisha lance, live in los angeles. natisha, what is the latest in regard to the information coming out today in regard to prescriptions allegedly written, alias names for michael jackson? >> reporter: that's right, jean. what we're hearing now is michael jackson may have had many hail yass. we also know when that -- the room he was staying in at that home in holmby hills, there are many pill bottles found at the home with various names on them. we also heard from various bodyguards of michael jackson who have said they were requested to get prescription drugs for michael jackson and in of them ended up leaving the job because they ended up denying to do so. >> natisha, how many doctors do we think are being investigated now for writing these prescriptions? >> reporter: right now, they are looking at about five doctors, however, the attorney general's office is looking at dozens of docketers who may have been involved in getting prescription drugs for michael jackson. >> dozens of doctors writing prescriptions allegedly
. >> let's go straight out to natisha lance, live in los angeles. natisha, what is the latest in regard to the information coming out today in regard to prescriptions allegedly written, alias names for michael jackson? >> reporter: that's right, jean. what we're hearing now is michael jackson may have had many hail yass. we also know when that -- the room he was staying in at that home in holmby hills, there are many pill bottles found at the home with various names on them. we also...
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. >> to natisha lance, our producer there on the scene.atisha, what can you tell me about janet jackson trying to stage this family intervention to save jackson's life, and him refusing, having his bodyguard, a fleet of bodyguards turning them away from the front door and even not taking his 79-year-old mother's telephone calls? >> you're absolutely right, nancy. this was february of 2007, after a visit with michael jackson. janet jackson felt, she became very concerned about his health. she said he was very emaciated. she wanted to stage this intervention. she tried to get the help of her brothers to get onboard with it. there are reports about this intervention that was going to happen. the jackson family ended up releasing a statement to "people" magazine where certain members of the family signed but janet jackson's name was missing from that statement released. >> special guests joining us tonight. a rabbi, thank you for being with us. he is a jackson former rabbi and author of "kosher sutra." rabbi, thank you for being with us. sir,
. >> to natisha lance, our producer there on the scene.atisha, what can you tell me about janet jackson trying to stage this family intervention to save jackson's life, and him refusing, having his bodyguard, a fleet of bodyguards turning them away from the front door and even not taking his 79-year-old mother's telephone calls? >> you're absolutely right, nancy. this was february of 2007, after a visit with michael jackson. janet jackson felt, she became very concerned about his...
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what do you know, natisha lance?alleged aliases that michael jackson had, also, where the prescription drugs may have come from. the specific division with the dea's office that is looking into this is one that tracks down prescription drugs, trying to find out who is originating them, who is writing them. so they're looking into the doctors who may may have prescribed that and how michael jackson if that is the case, wound up with so many prescription drugs. >> this will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation. ♪ every day we enjoy history ♪ some things in life they just don't wanna be ♪ ♪ but if martin luther was livin' ♪ ♪ they wouldn't let this be, no ♪ ♪ all i wanna say is that they don't really care about us ♪ ♪ all i wanna say is that they don't really care about us ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> this moment will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation. ♪ every day we enjoy history ♪ some things in life they just don't wanna be ♪ ♪
what do you know, natisha lance?alleged aliases that michael jackson had, also, where the prescription drugs may have come from. the specific division with the dea's office that is looking into this is one that tracks down prescription drugs, trying to find out who is originating them, who is writing them. so they're looking into the doctors who may may have prescribed that and how michael jackson if that is the case, wound up with so many prescription drugs. >> this will go down in...
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natisha, do you know any more about the payoff? when is it supposed to go down and what prompted it? >> nancy, once again, sources are telling cnn that there is a payout that is supposed to be happening behind closed doors. we don't know the details of that. debbie rowe's attorney again is saying this is false, no payoff is going to happen, and debbie rowe is not seeking money. ♪ >>> i'm here to celebrate my son, because he was the largest entertainer in the world. >> father joe jackson reportedly set to force jackson's children on the stage under the name the jackson 3. >> a friend of debbie rowe said she's not just going to roll over, and she fully intends to seek custody. >> you've heard michael jackson say countless times how joe abused him. >> i never beat michael in my life. >> the understanding that i see is she just wants to make sure that they don't wind up like michael jackson, at the mercy of joe jackson's belt. >> is this about what's best for the kids or is this about money for debbie rowe? >> debbie, are you ready to
natisha, do you know any more about the payoff? when is it supposed to go down and what prompted it? >> nancy, once again, sources are telling cnn that there is a payout that is supposed to be happening behind closed doors. we don't know the details of that. debbie rowe's attorney again is saying this is false, no payoff is going to happen, and debbie rowe is not seeking money. ♪ >>> i'm here to celebrate my son, because he was the largest entertainer in the world. >>...
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. >> i want to go back ought to natisha lance in court today.year-old katherine jackson, the mother/grandmother. attorneys going toe-to-toe with the executors. she claims they're going to run the estate in to the ground and spend all of the money. what did the court finally do at the end of the day when the dust settled? >> the court did decide to give control to the executors temporarily until the next hearing on august 3 when they will find a permanent -- a permanent person to be in control of the estate. >> well, what i don't understand out to you, midwin charles, if michael jackson, whether we like his choice or not, chose these two executors, who was the court to jump up and say, no, i'm going to supplant who i want? >> well, the court in essence has not yet done that. what they've done is granted temporary control to these two until the other side can come in and say, well, look, if you have evidence to show that perhaps these two have biased motives or what have you, bring that to me and we will see. >> to brian lam, board certified inter
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out to natisha lance, our producer joining us from l.a. what can you tell me about abc network paying nearly $250,000 for photos, really for an interview, but they said for photos of michael jackson? what happened? >> right, nancy. this was an interview where joe jackson said he and katherine jackson would be best equipped to raise the children. apparently abc news reportedly paid $200,000 for video of the jackson family to be used on a special that's coming up. $200,000 where joe jackson sat down for this interview. >> to carmen st. george, joining us out of new york. carmen, as a parent, this must strike a chord with you. he specifically did not want his children at the hands of joe jackson. and we see it happening before our very eyes. because of what he said in his will, giving guardianship to his mother, who's married to his father, has he unwittingly engineered this fiasco? >> nancy, i hope that the courts take this into their hands considering the best interests of the child. even though joe jackson has another residence, primarily
out to natisha lance, our producer joining us from l.a. what can you tell me about abc network paying nearly $250,000 for photos, really for an interview, but they said for photos of michael jackson? what happened? >> right, nancy. this was an interview where joe jackson said he and katherine jackson would be best equipped to raise the children. apparently abc news reportedly paid $200,000 for video of the jackson family to be used on a special that's coming up. $200,000 where joe jackson...
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i want to go to natisha lance, our producer on the story.wyer actually went and paid back the bad checks? isn't that kind of an admission that they did it? >> right, nancy. this is also one of the reasons why he's saying that this trial should be put on hold because these debts have been satisfied. he paid $664 back to bank of america for amy's account. >> out to the lines. antoinette in missouri, hi, dear. >> caller: hi, how are you today? >> i'm good. what's your question? >> caller: real quick, i love your show. >> thank you. >> caller: my question is concerning the parents. have they called the parents to the stand? will they have to be questioned and will they question them very vigorously in regards to what they know about this entire case? i just feel like they're holding back on something. >> antoinette, you and me both. they have been holding back to protect their daughter. the answer is yes, yes, and yes. they can be called to the stand. they will be called to the stand. they will be questioned vigorously. there is no mother/daught
i want to go to natisha lance, our producer on the story.wyer actually went and paid back the bad checks? isn't that kind of an admission that they did it? >> right, nancy. this is also one of the reasons why he's saying that this trial should be put on hold because these debts have been satisfied. he paid $664 back to bank of america for amy's account. >> out to the lines. antoinette in missouri, hi, dear. >> caller: hi, how are you today? >> i'm good. what's your...
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. >> natisha, how many doctors do we think are being investigated now for writing these prescriptions? >> right now, they are looking at about five doctors. however, the attorney general's office is looking at dozens of doctors who may have been involved in getting prescription drugs for michael jackson. >> dozens of doctors writing prescriptions allegedly in the names of aliases. let's go out to a very special guest. so honored to have him. dr. joshua perper coming out of broward county, florida. forensic pathologist, medical examiner for broward county. you have a wealth of knowledge you can impart to us. you did perform the autopsy of anna nicole smith. we did wait for a very long time until your results became public, results of the autopsy, the toxicology results. what you determined to be the cause of death for anna nicole smith. tell us what los angeles coroners are doing right now, because we are waiting for the results. who did you interview during this time, to give us a look at what they may be doing? >> there are a lot of really astounding similarities between the death of
. >> natisha, how many doctors do we think are being investigated now for writing these prescriptions? >> right now, they are looking at about five doctors. however, the attorney general's office is looking at dozens of doctors who may have been involved in getting prescription drugs for michael jackson. >> dozens of doctors writing prescriptions allegedly in the names of aliases. let's go out to a very special guest. so honored to have him. dr. joshua perper coming out of...
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quickly, natisha lance. when are we going to get the official cause of death?a few more weeks, nancy. toxicology results could be back in up to a week and at least a week. >> at least a week. >> everyone, very quickly, over 14 million americans out of a job in this economy. safety tips to protect yourself from online job scams. never, ever reveal all your personal information on your online resume. don't give potential employers your bank account numbers, your personal i.d.s or credit card information. why do they need that? beware of suspicious job listings with obvious grammatical errors or spelling mistakes or vague job titles. if you are the victim of an online job scam, contact the internet crime complaint center and place fraud alerts on your credit files. to learn how to do this and for more information, go to ic3.gov. >>> a 10-year-old girl vanishes just blocks from her home. >> a heart-wrenching story. a missing girl and a father set to be deployed to iraq in a few weeks. where is lindsey baum? >> i'm lindsey's father. i would like nothing more than to
quickly, natisha lance. when are we going to get the official cause of death?a few more weeks, nancy. toxicology results could be back in up to a week and at least a week. >> at least a week. >> everyone, very quickly, over 14 million americans out of a job in this economy. safety tips to protect yourself from online job scams. never, ever reveal all your personal information on your online resume. don't give potential employers your bank account numbers, your personal i.d.s or...
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and natisha lance, producer from the nancy grace show, right here on hln., leonard, let's get back to you. did casey anthony tell you or any of your employees incriminating things concerning little caylee? >> let me see if i can go this far with reconstructing some of the situation there. first of all, we were not employed by jose baez. the agreement that we made with him was strictly to protect her constitutional rights, which we're not government officials, and jose baez being an attorney knows that the document we signed was more to save face than anything else. we were on our own hook the whole time we were there. we produced our own agenda. and we weren't beholding to anybody. and there was five people on the security team, plus myself and tracy. as far as the statement i think he's concerned about are the ones that are in direct conflict with statements she made to law enforcement and possibly even to her own attorney. those are the statements that he's very concerned about. just this morning, i sent my personal assistant sarah shelton to meet with hi
and natisha lance, producer from the nancy grace show, right here on hln., leonard, let's get back to you. did casey anthony tell you or any of your employees incriminating things concerning little caylee? >> let me see if i can go this far with reconstructing some of the situation there. first of all, we were not employed by jose baez. the agreement that we made with him was strictly to protect her constitutional rights, which we're not government officials, and jose baez being an...
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i want to go out to natisha lance, our producer, who has been on the scene from the very beginning.t can you tell me about threats to the jackson family to actually steal jackson's body? >> you're right, nancy. there are reports coming in that people are throwing notes over the gate at the encino home, threatening to steal michael jackson's body. we put a call out to forest lawn today to ask them about the security measures they are taking to protect michael jackson's body. they won't give us any details regarding that. but the jackson family allegedly was so concerned about michael jackson's safety, the safety of his body, that his body may not have even been in that promethean casket that went to the staples center for his memorial. >> out to stacy brown, co-author of the "man behind the mask." we understand that there are guards, armed guards, protecting his body right now. what do you make of their plans to go forward with a jackson burial theme park, like graceland? or will they stick with forest lawn? what are their plans, do you know? >> well, nancy, from what i understand, t
i want to go out to natisha lance, our producer, who has been on the scene from the very beginning.t can you tell me about threats to the jackson family to actually steal jackson's body? >> you're right, nancy. there are reports coming in that people are throwing notes over the gate at the encino home, threatening to steal michael jackson's body. we put a call out to forest lawn today to ask them about the security measures they are taking to protect michael jackson's body. they won't...
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. >> to natisha lance, our producer there on the scene, what can you tell me about janet jackson tryingstage the intervention to try and save jackson's life and him refusing, having a fleet of bodyguards turning them away from the front door and even not taking his 79-year-old mother's telephone calls? >> you're absolutely right, nancy. this is february 2007. after a visit with michael jackson, janet became very concerned about his health. she wanted to stage this intervention and tried to get the help of her brothers to get on board with it. there our rumors about this intervention that was going to happen and the jackson family ended up releasing the statements to "people" magazine and certain family members signed the statement but janet jackson's name was not included in that statement. >> thank you for being with us, a former jackson rabbi and author. rabbi, thank you for being with us. were you familiar with jackson's drug use? >> we're not children here. the whole world was familiar. anyone who saw him in the 2005 trial saw that he was out to lunch. mining ke michael had a terrib
. >> to natisha lance, our producer there on the scene, what can you tell me about janet jackson tryingstage the intervention to try and save jackson's life and him refusing, having a fleet of bodyguards turning them away from the front door and even not taking his 79-year-old mother's telephone calls? >> you're absolutely right, nancy. this is february 2007. after a visit with michael jackson, janet became very concerned about his health. she wanted to stage this intervention and...
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. >> to natisha lance, who is this woman -- not talking about debbie rowe, that is coming forward andeast one of the children. i assume it's blanket, prince michael ii? >> that's right. her name is nona paris lola jackson, nancy, she is out of the british, out of britain. she is saying that she is the mother of michael jackson's children. and she filed papers today in court saying that she wants access to michael jackson's estate. she also wants to be the, getting custody of the children. now this is not the first time that she has filed papers in this type of manner. she also filed papers back in december, 2008. the judge said that you need more evidence to show you are the mother of these children. >> i have got her documents right here in front of me. where she is claiming that she is the mother of the minor children. okay. so, we already see people coming out of the woodwork making these claims. the only way to verify or disprove her claim is going to be a dna test. out to ellen gamburg, psycho therapist joining us out of new york. thank you for being with us. getting all lost are
. >> to natisha lance, who is this woman -- not talking about debbie rowe, that is coming forward andeast one of the children. i assume it's blanket, prince michael ii? >> that's right. her name is nona paris lola jackson, nancy, she is out of the british, out of britain. she is saying that she is the mother of michael jackson's children. and she filed papers today in court saying that she wants access to michael jackson's estate. she also wants to be the, getting custody of the...
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. >> to you natisha lance, what can you tell me about grandmother katherine jackson being manipulatednto trying to declare michael jackson incompetent at the time he signed his will. >> she filed a petition. she's asking to assume a role of administer. there's two executors on the will. the only way to find it null and void is if he was competent when he signed his name on the will back in 2002. >> leonard lee, how likely is it there's a battle of competence, he was out of it, crazy at the time he signed the will. how hard is that to do? >> virtually impossible. to go back seven years and say he was incompetent, it seems reasonable. he left the estate to his kids and mother. what's wrong with that? >> it's very simple when it comes to the children. the will is what it is. it's the will from my brother because that's the way he was done. that's the way he did it. my mother gets full custody of the children and the children will be fine. they are with my mother now. anybody that tries to contest the will on any level, whether with the executors or anything, they are not living out micha
. >> to you natisha lance, what can you tell me about grandmother katherine jackson being manipulatednto trying to declare michael jackson incompetent at the time he signed his will. >> she filed a petition. she's asking to assume a role of administer. there's two executors on the will. the only way to find it null and void is if he was competent when he signed his name on the will back in 2002. >> leonard lee, how likely is it there's a battle of competence, he was out of it,...
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to natisha lance, our producer, there also at the staples center, where is he?today, for his body to be here for the memorial. and then after that, he went to an undisclosed location. they're not telling us where he is. there are reports out there that he was not returned to forest lawn. so the family's keeping this under wraps for now. >> to mike walker, senior editor with "the national enquirer." he was there at the memorial service today. he's joining us from l.a. right now. as always, mike walker, it's a pleasure to have you with us. what happened today? and where is jackson's body? also, how will they inter it? >> well, first thing is that as your reporter said, it was a singular service in that it was so -- i expected it to be more over the top a little bit, a little bit more like a performance, performers getting out there and singing and dancing, and they did, but there was the feeling of church. people were signifying and yelling out responses -- not yelling, but saying things. yes, yes, you said it, brother -- that kind of thing. and it was almost like
to natisha lance, our producer, there also at the staples center, where is he?today, for his body to be here for the memorial. and then after that, he went to an undisclosed location. they're not telling us where he is. there are reports out there that he was not returned to forest lawn. so the family's keeping this under wraps for now. >> to mike walker, senior editor with "the national enquirer." he was there at the memorial service today. he's joining us from l.a. right now....