i also want to thank my partner in so much of this enterprise with respect to nato and nato parliamentary assembly, mr. turner of ohio. h.res. 831, which we introduced together, mr. turner and i, calls on the united states government to uphold the founding democratic principles of nato and establish a center for democratic resilience within nato itself. nato's founding document, signed here in washington, d.c., on april 4, 1949, this very week, it's clear nato is an alliance of democracies. the preamble to the treaty notes the determination of allies to, quote, safeguard the freedom, heritage and civilization of peoples founded on the principles of democracy, individual liberty and the rule of law. unquote. the alliance's commitment to shared democratic values is what distinguishes nato from any other military alliance. without it, nato's just another military block that does not like russia. this commitment cannot remain purely aspirational or rhetorical. it must be operationallized. that's why we believe we need formal architecture within nato dedicated to the promotion and advocacy of

nato. at the same time, i think we have overestimated the strength of the russian military. they have failed to achieved their goals -- to achieve their goals. they will focus on eastern and southern ukraine now. host: do you believe any of the nato countries currently are under direct threat from vladimir putin and russia? guest: no. he knows that if he attacks a nato country, he would be faced with a determined military response from nato. in that matter, obviously, nato would be the winner. he knows that. host: direct attack aside, yesterday it was announced that as far as: mo garriott is concerned, natural gas is being cut off. is this another form of attack yes -- attack echo guest: yes. we have always known that putin uses energy as a weapon. europe is reliant on russian oil and gas. putin now has inadvertently paved the way for an energy embargo. the next step against russia will be an oil embargo. that would really hit putin's war machine. that is the best way we can put a quick end

joining nato.terestingly there are many aspects. any hints of time or to focus on one because it's very relevant to new such as broke today. when yeltsin and clinton and one of the times was the bromance is going strong talked about potential russian membership in nato, yeltsin said the clinton you know it's going to be a big problem? the chinese reaction to the chinese are going to be worried about nato suddenly living close to them. size to talk about putin, putting rush into nato, bill, we had to figure out if managed the chinese reaction. just before we went live and learn that putin who is in beijing for the olympics issued a joint statement with president xi. i repeat a joint statement where they join a to criticize the o expansion so in other words, china has now gone on record saying it is opposed to nato enlargement. that is a real signs of support for putin and very difficult for the united states because it you've got three big power centers, moscow, beijing and washington, you don't wan

they began to press nato more urgently to join nato. that is an understandable process, but in some ways regrettable, because for developments, it would have been better to have the eu press sooner. as we see in poland and hungary, early nato enlargement is not blossoming into democracy. according to various think takes it cannot be classified as a democracy, the first country in europe that is not a democracy. i think that the eu was punching the lowest weight by being at the tent. i understand why, but the 1990's were a historic moment. cold war's are not short-lived affairs. neither russia nor the west took advantage. to recap, because of the eu's as a teensy -- hesitancy about expansion, in some ways it sped it up. nato is designed as a military alliance, not an organization meant to democratize. it did not fully luck in democracies in places like poland and hungary. host: for bush 41 and the bill clinton presidency you use a metaphor, three fateful turns of the ratchet that happened during these two presidencies. what does the ratc

each has a nato battalion in it. of course the baltics and poland already had one closest there to russia's borders. now those have extended right down the eastern flanks. i certainly, nato has already made some tangible reinforcements to it's deterrence and defense posture. and those are certainly not going to be temporary and tara, in conclusion. on a related matter could we see nato also deciding in the weeks to come on in terms of enlargement of finland. a country you know very well is set to be deliberating, joining the alliance. is that something that could happen soon? it is when we, when we look at what's happening in finland and also we should mention in sweden as well, but not, not to such a huge extent. finland is definitely considering joining the alliance. and as you know, i lived there for a long time, and this, this is something i never could have imagined before. just a few months ago, russia's invasion of ukraine has completely changed the view in finland from a positive view of joining the alliance

and when nato was expand, you 999. all russia want russell was that you're taking caucus with that huge potential. we were pulling them, was already already to move groups there, which is the motor. there were all kinds of statements made, you know, when they're still, it is gone. for most of the day to lead the spectrum, we are the same over 10 years that you know, the west, a huge rational send a bow in tears. and poland was suggesting that it should do the thing, you know, and it was, there were some or dish bowen tiers. su though a indeed, it's a very dangerous game with all get all the nato countries in rule not be have a deeper, don't you think that the post leadership been lead believes that they can actually force the alliance to follow it's lee, which i think is a mistake, i think that that's something that is a miscalculation george. you want to think that because it seems to me that the assumption is that we can do whatever we want because the lines will have ball because of article by, but i don't think tha

it's not even going to be put on the table here at nato. right, so this very clear conclusion of terry, the world is reeling and nato is reeling from the images that we've seen coming out of boucher, i'm just wondering what kind of effect has that massacre had on nato? is it changing? is calculations at all? it's not changing these big decisions that i talked about. there really isn't going to be consideration of a no fly zone or, or other other measures that nato feels would actually increase the suffering and death not reduce it. but you know, really i was very struck in this press conference with secretary blinking that he started out by giving individual anecdotes of horrific situations being faced by ukrainians. he talked about a woman sheltering with her 5 year old child being raped, being having a knife to her neck. he talked about a young man being brought in, forced to kneel in front of in front of the villagers and then being shot to as they were told, this is dirt. and we, the russian troops are, are freeing you from the, from th

still, nato calls itself a defense of alliance. is it only a matter of time before article 5 is invoked? ah, discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guest, george samuel l. e. in budapest, he's a podcast or at the goggle which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow we crossed to to meet bob cheese, a political analyst and editor at interest me internet media project, or gentleman. crosstalk rules and fact that means you can jump any time you want and i was appreciate, i'm going to start out in budapest, george, you know, over the last few cycles. and it's been made apparent that finland and sweden may want to join nato of all times. but we can talk about that. but one of the things that you have to think about when you, when you're adding new members to this type of alliance, is what they call article 5 of mutual defense. and that's bandied around a lot. i don't think everyone really understand what, what it actually mean. so tell our viewers here. what is article 5 of the nato treaty, what is what it is and

at nato. certainly it is. it is making everyone even more aware of the brutality of this war leader after leader simply expressed their shock. and their hor at what's being uncovered in boucher with the concern, as alexander said earlier, that it may get even worse. but little i have to say, this is not going to change nato's position that putting nato boots on the ground inside ukraine or nato planes in the air would only lead to more death. i know that must be very hard for ukrainians to understand as they continue to call for a no fly zone to stop russian plains from bombing them from the air. but this is not something that's going to change here at the alliance. so that's not going to change. where do we expect nato to respond to keeps demand for more lethal weapons? ukrainian foreign minister to me till kula is here in person to make that that appeal to governments. because nato itself does not send weapons, but it is individual countries that support ukraine. and we have just heard the u

it was a nato operation. it was an legal nato operation. they killed over 2000 innocent civilians and frankly, innocent soldiers who hadn't declared war anybody ah ah, ah. the u. s. h. nato allies claim they are continuing to send massive military aid to ukraine. at the same time, washington appears to have no interest in a negotiated end to the conflict. this begs the question, what is washington's policy goal? could it be direct conflict with russia? it was also of the carrier swore it was intended to show russia the new russia that he couldn't go too far. the some excuse. i was mean i would amiability almost one i scenario niga. others vienna illegal. staying on this. you know, i'm here in the grocery, visio. oh, a national. he was lewinski scenario and that's not as bna with talk of the psychiatry or say the one. yeah. don't school go doors. yeah. you know, what i mean was not, he is ashley sweeney theater. here in his, in coyer tropical. mm hm. after the collapse of the wall. so a treaty organization, nato expanded east, despite having

this is more of a nato policy question. nato is looking to their tech accelerator. i just wanted to get your view on the departments view on the accelerate of the north atlantic project. it is a mash-up, i call the darpa and diu and a few other things. can you update us on where the department is on that? >> congressman i do not have details on the status of the project. i would get back to you with details. what i do know is as nato allies have recognized not just the scale of the fact that russia poses to your -- european security but the multi-domain challenges that both russia and china pose to global security and to nato, the willingness to cooperate more in the area of technology going forward has deepened and has strengthened. this project is an opportunity to advance that. >> thanks. i wanted to make sure it is on record. this was the opportunity to ask that. general wolters i want to follow up on something that representative wilson brought up. and it is to show how international affairs and local affairs in washington state, we have ukrainian americans, in

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s. sr is attacked by 250 nato divisions. soviet thoughts are taken over by nato naval forces. the 3rd phase, annihilating the usaa wiping it off the world map. to that end, all new weapon types that to be deployed, nuclear, chemical, radiological, and biological, as well as small items. the final phase breaking the ussr into full zones and posting nato troops on its territory. ah, more than 18000000 people. the majority of the huge countries population would have died in the intense bombing and subsequent fighting. ah, they have a series of these cries of war plans with kennedy briefed on them in the early 1960 . he was, are of by no means that we call ourselves the human race. but these plans continued for preemptive attacks against the soviet union. but this was, in essence, an updated version of the nazi general plan. aust, that envisaged eliminating millions of slavic people and as in world war 2, when much of europe stood united against the u. s. l or the u. s. plans to muster own nato nations under the aegis of operation dropshot. in 1949, the soviets acquired their own

it is about infected, created by nato nato's business machine. because you must remember, if nato disbanded shareholders in the united states and elsewhere in lodge obs companies would lose millions and millions, they'd only have one yacht instead of 2 yards each. there. oh dear, wouldn't that be a terrible? there's a simple method to put it right with the rest of the world with we'll say we were forced to seize the territory for in order to maintain security adult hitler with bring order security and democracy. the reasons used to justify molten was waged by nato and led by the u. s. b. not toys. i installment fund feelin data to the north, vietnam, m deacons, toiler, emily taylor shaw. the translator politician controller beulah pushed him to the gear, one of them global to become undesirable countries and undesirable leaders become the face of the enemy. when she gets on manure for reuben, then mon xena, ivan and folk, i didn't find present here besides portland, the v dot some find command, the oddly enough to source name of stuffs is unclear

there will be no nato, no fly zone, no nato planes in the air. those are red lines for the alliance and they will not cross them. but individual allies have been supplying ukraine with weapons with money to buy their own defensive equipment and even countries that would have been unthinkable to see them supplying defensive equipment. germany included, finland, sweden. those countries now were also shipping ukraine ways to defend itself. is there anything that the alliance can do that need or can do without risking direct military conflict with russia and ukraine? well, these are the reasons why they're not going to be putting boots on the ground or, or planes in the air. they feel that this very likely could lead to a direct conflict with russia if, if you establish a no fly zone, russian planes will fly right into it. and so those are things nato will not be doing. otherwise, there's been a change in attitude. russia has not responded to their deference and has gone ahead and attacked as an innocent country. and so nato is less willing to consid

it was a nato operation and legal nato operation. they killed over 2000 innocent civilians and frankly, innocent soldiers who hadn't declared war any body a oh was reason is meaningless cards. and like if you speak russian, keep your voice down while out and about a couple don't put your human symbols on display a little speech nice. all right, so you guys don't talk to strangers. 7 i avoid noisy gatherings and rallies, a rushing even your colleagues, and perhaps also your friends think you're guilty because you'll, russian a allowed to with being a by needs a specific social with a, with it was also a vicarious war. it was intended to show russia the new russia couldn't go too far. the focus, i was mean of annual visibility or class one. i scenario yoga. others vienna you leave are staying at this. you know, i'm here in the grocer, visio, or by national you was lewinski scenario and lost notice bna. you with talk other psychiatry posted the and school good words. yeah. you know what i meant was nancy e as ashley sweeney theater. her

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tell us about this transformation of nato. , ., ., us about this transformation of nato. ,., ., ., natonterview sa in: nato. gotten into an interview saying that — nato. gotten into an interview saying that he _ nato. gotten into an interview saying that he was _ nato. gotten into an interview saying that he was going - nato. gotten into an interview saying that he was going to i saying that he was going to fundamentally transform nato, realign, rethink its role in the new global world order. recognition from him and they need to rethink the role of china and what they do to neutralise that in the industry where they talk about the growing alliance between russia and china and future concerns for the west and the rest of the democratic world. and they need to hard up defences on the eastern border of russia such as latvia and estonia and the need to have physical presence there as well. interestingly, he calls european countries to follow the lead of the uk being very vocal and clear and unequivocal in that position with regards to warn ukraine in germany as being quite timid since the

and nato that's a great question about russia and nato membership for the second question, nato formedcounter to deter the warsaw pact. out of western europe. many years ago i expected somewhere to find a discussion of saying after the wall came down especially after the soviet union collapse mission accomplished. let's go home. but i never really found that the discussion in the '90s, so under president trump we started havinge that discussion to the distress of our nato allies and it was in a way that was insulting to our nato allies. i actually didn't find that discussion which was surprising to me. as a historian, i'm conscious that the united states in the 20th century essentially faced the same challenge. it tried to reconstruct order in the way of conflict to do that in 1918 and then after the end of 1989. the reason i mentioned that is in 1918 youvi ended up with a um isolationism so when the 1945 order rolled around, the state department and its representatives looked carefully at what went wrong so we do see in 1945 the study of 1918 to see what should we do to do better time

support for ukraine, nato. as warning, russia is said to intensify attacks in eastern and southern ukraine. here some of what secretary general against oldenburg had to say earlier about the need to put more pressure on moscow. we have seen no indication that the person putting house so changed his ambition to control the whole of ukraine on also to rewrite her the natural order. so we need to be prepared for a long whole. we need to support ukraine, sustained our sanctions on strengthen our her defenses on the hour to terms devalue, correspondent terry schultz joins us now from nato age q. good to see you. terry. now stolen berg says the long haul. what does he mean by that? exactly? abby secretary general stillberg says that russian forces are by no means leading ukraine, as they said they would do. instead, they are moving further into john boss. he says where they are preparing a major offensive. stilton berg says it's clear that russia wants to create a land border between don, boss and crimea, which is al

into nato. and i have sweden and finland saying i will, maybe we'll join nato. so this just seems to add fuel to the fire and is, you know, frankly inexplicable. while there have been and reports on named american officials that say that these countries will be able to join nato this summer. that of that seems pretty quick, especially considering the fact that you know, nato and ukraine were considering ukrainian membership in the military organization . perhaps for a lot longer than that. do you think that's feasible? i me, any things feasible, if that's what they want to do, i'm sure they can do it again. it seems to me to be extraordinarily provocative towards russia to do it, especially that quickly. but it's obvious. the west wants to have an extremely hostile relationship with russia, and this would be just another way to show that while, as we already heard, russia said that if this happens, they must go, may be forced to put nuclear weapons in co leningrad. what response would you expect

and, secondly, it is nato... boris johnson _ secondly, it is nato...s nato... boris johnson is not nato. nato, thankfully, is beginning to wake up and taking — thankfully, is beginning to wake up and taking a tough stand. how much that will— and taking a tough stand. how much that will work to dissuade or stop putin— that will work to dissuade or stop putin i_ that will work to dissuade or stop putin i don't know. you that will work to dissuade or stop putin i don't know.— putin i don't know. you have mentioned — putin i don't know. you have mentioned nato _ putin i don't know. you have mentioned nato there, - putin i don't know. you have i mentioned nato there, yasmin, putin i don't know. you have - mentioned nato there, yasmin, that brings us neatly to our next paper, the sunday telegraph, and full—scale nato military force to defend borders, that is the headline. so, nato is looking at a fundamental transformation around the border, yasmin, if you could just follow up with that. yasmin, if you could 'ust follow up with that. , ., , with that. yes, t

so it could actually cause some fractures within the nail nato will. i meant to also you could see turnover across multiple countries. you may see changes occurring and as a result a weakening of their, of their union of the whole concept under is another concern to le pen has said that she would look to block sanctions when it comes to russian energy, saying that it is the french who will end up paying the price of this. the e u is already in a difficult stage when it comes to getting new and more restrictive sanctions put in place against moscow approved than these are agreements that have to be unanimous across the u. l. a pen presidency would bolster support for leaders like hungary, as in victor albany, who has called this a red line. so how likely is this to happen? or the polls have seen macro on pulling ahead. this rare intervention by the leaders of germany, spain and portugal shows that they are worried that she still has a short of winning france and therefore the european union is at a crossroads. the choice of which turning to take is simp

it was a nato operation control in legal nato operation. they killed over 2000 innocent civilians and frankly, innocent soldiers who hadn't declared war anybody a oh, i think wrong when i just don't hold any world to see out these days. because the advocate and engagement, it was the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart, we choose to look for common ground. it was also a vicarious war. it was intended to show russia the new russia. he couldn't go too far the service cuz i was mean lever, amiability, artist, one i scenario niga, others vienna, illegal staying up this year? we say no, but i'm here in the grocer, visio, or national. he was lewinski a scenario and that's not as bna with the talk of the psychiatry or say the one. yeah. don't school go doors. yeah. you know what i mean was not he is actually to swear in the paper in his, in there go. yeah, that's not that cool. mm hm. after the collapse of the wall, so treaty organization, nato expanded east, despite having promised not to them. but they did. nato said ha, it's ours.

but uh, latvia is a member of nato is one of the active members of nato and uh, since the meeting ofevel of foreign ministers ended yesterday and i must say that nowhere in the nato countries did they condemn the actions of the battalion. azov is actually a bow formation. azov never condemned the procession of nazi battalions. uh, on the contrary, everywhere now in nato countries you can easily buy any nazi symbols. uh, the same azov and others nazi organizations that operate in ukraine, that is, in fact. this is the nazification of nato, it is obvious, but on the other hand, globalization is on the face. nato, in fact, the serious thing that was noted in relation to the last ministerial meeting is that nato is now claiming a global role. this is no longer a north atlantic alliance, this is a global alliance. it was the underlined presence of the japanese foreign minister who made the appropriate statement and was quoted in the japanese press. listen to the foreign minister del yusimasa hayashi called for stronger security cooperation between japan and nato as russian aggression in u

and nato became rich. it was going down at a level that -- it was not even -- it would not have been sustainable. you wouldn't be in a position now of giving them a rifle let alone billions of dollars worth of equipment. so i had a big impact. and by the way, that was an impact against russia. the pipeline was against russia. the sanctions were against russia. and then i listened to the fake news say, oh, president trump loves russia and he didn't do much about russia. well, i stopped the pipeline, the biggest thing they've ever done. i created a powerful nato because i got people to pay what they should pay. nobody did sanctions like i did. with all of that being said, when i look at what's happening, it never would have happened under the trump administration, regardless of strength one way or the other. i knew putin very well, almost as well as i know you, sean, and i will tell you, we talked about it. we talked about it a lot. he did want ukraine, but i said you're not going into ukraine. he would neve

finland mehsud join nato -- finland may soon join nato. >> i will not give any kind of timetable, but happen quite fast. within weeks, not months. >> that is the current finnish prime minister. this former prime minister goes further. >> finland, and possibly sweden as well, will become members by the end of the year. >> that would be a moment of huge significance. nature was already the world's biggest military alliance. it's 30 members include the u.s., u.k., germany and france. other members in eastern europe joined after the collapse of the soviet uni, much to vladimir putin's fury. >> we won't move one inch toward the east, they told us in the 1990's. what happened? they deceived us. they brazenly tricked us. >> nato denies its expansion as a threat, but that is how russia sees it. finlands already a member of the eu and cooperates with nato. while it is unofficially neutral in military terms, it is a milita player. most men do military service. statistics show all-time strength of 280,000 soldiers and 900,000 reservists. finnish defense forces described themselves as the backbon

i do not believe that most of the finns are in favor of joining nato.ruled by globalists who have long dreamed of taking our independence. this first happened with the accession of our country to the european union, and now tough brazenly, announcing the entry into the military union of nato finnish parliamentarians. anna turtiny continues, well, her antiglolist line, i wonder if he generally read the news and is aware of what is happening in the world. how much, of course, if finland joins nato, moscow will react to this, i am very concerned about this and very angry at the finnish president and the finnish parliament. i can honestly say that i am very ashamed of everything in finland. this time is russian-finnish, the border was not fortified in in terms of military infrastructure and joining nato will force moscow to deploy both an air defense system and strike forces. however, in helsinki, where according to the latest polls, 70% of the population is in favor of joining nato, they decided not to even hold a referendum and immediately apply to the al

it was a nato operation. it was an legal nato operation. they killed over 2000 innocent civilians and frankly, innocent soldiers who hadn't declared war any body ah, for ah, ah, ah, it was also a vicarious war. it was intended to show russia the new russia of eap. couldn't go too far, the some excuse. i was mean of what amiability, artless one, i scenario niga, others vienna, illegal. staying out this year? we say no, i'm here in the grocery, visio. oh, a national. he was lewinski scenarios must not be an issue with talk of the psychiatric for say the one. yeah. don't school go doors. yeah. you know what i mean was not he is actually to swear in the theater. yeah. as in there . go. yeah. tropical. mm hm. after the collapse of the wall, so a treaty organization, nato expanded east, despite having promised not to. but they did. nato said it's ours. we moved east international law exist as long as it serves american interest. if it doesn't, it doesn't exist. so truthfully, there's no such thing as international law. since the soviet union is c

the red line for nato? is there a red line for nato? well it so i personally think very wise of the allies not to identify any read lies in advance. i mean, we used to have had stories in the past for a red lines remarked and then nothing really happened. so we went to award. this is time, but at the same time, it's very important to do what we call a native contingency planning to prepare for case scenarios to prepare for what if scenarios. and i think this is what the allies have started to do already with regard to chemical weapons that rusher eventually may use, but also for a potential eventual application or deployment, rather of tactical nukes. we hear quite a bit about not provoking vladimir putin, it's nito western allies have repeatedly said we can't do anything that might make the situation worse, or that this would spill over into nato territory. but it's become very clear that the criteria for what is considered provocation is very different in moscow than it is in the west. so why are the coun

and i'd like to take you now to nato to r. terry schultz who is covering the foreign m, a foreign ministers meeting their terry ukraine has been pressing nato, a for more weapons, our nato allies prepared to deliver arms to ukraine. secretary generals dolton burg says they are. he said that in these meetings, they assured a foreign minister to meet your kula from ukraine, that they would be providing more support as you know when he arrived at this meeting, he asked for more heavy weaponry warplanes, which as of now have not been delivered despite being promised, so he is looking, looking for heavy equipment to replace what's been taken out by russia's onslaught on his country. and a secretary general steinberg would not give details nor did minister cooley, but about what exactly would be coming. simply reassuring. i'm going to pull out of that he was secretary of state antony blake and is holding a press conference right now at nato. h. q at us. take a lesson necessary to maintaining international peace and security together

still, nato calls itself a defense of alliance. is it only a matter of time before article 5 is invoked? ah, discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guest, george samuel l. e. in budapest, he's a podcast or at the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow we crossed to to meet republic. she's a political analyst editor at interest me, internet media project, or gentleman. crosstalk rules and fact that means you can jump any time you want and i was appreciate ok to start out in budapest, george, you know, over the last few cycles and it's been made apparent the finland and sweden may want to join nato of all times. but we can talk about that, but one of the things that you have to think about when you, when you're adding new members to this type of alliance, is what they call article 5 of mutual defense. and that's bandied around a lot. i don't think everyone really understand what, what it actually mean. so tell our viewers here. what is article 5 of the nato treaty, what is what it is and what it

of course , you can remember her chinese analysis more two years ago of the nato report nato 23, where ago the chinese noticed that russia was not mentioned, but 96 times, and china was already 82. that is, they understood that sooner or later, and at the stage they would declare china a threat and sooner or later i’ll take for it, for example, exactly the same methods that the chinese apply to russia 2 years ago, and well, and as we see, they turned out to be right. we must include china in our strategy. and the concept is also how to do it for this pentagon, after all, what is already happening in asia, in fact, an analogue of nato military bloc aus. and where australia is also in charge, and here the chinese sharply opposed russia, by the way, too. and now aux is declaring the development of hypersonic weapons to counter. and china, well, something worried the australians and the americans, recently concluded and the treaties of china by the solomons, until recently about these islands. well, few americans have heard how? however, recently in ukraine, too, few people have heard ther

madeline was very much _ partner of nato. madeline was very much at _ partner of nato.spicion of — well. she had i would say, judicious suspicion of autocrats given her upbringing and her history but she was very— upbringing and her history but she was very ready to look for ways to work _ was very ready to look for ways to work together with the russians put russian _ work together with the russians put russian counterpart was a very close colleague — russian counterpart was a very close colleague in_ russian counterpart was a very close colleague in latter years, even a friend _ colleague in latter years, even a friend she _ colleague in latter years, even a friend. she was really looking for ways _ friend. she was really looking for ways also — friend. she was really looking for ways also to make it possible for russia _ ways also to make it possible for russia to — ways also to make it possible for russia to participate on the global stage _ russia to participate on the global stage in— russia to participate on the global stage in a — russia to participate on the gl

the fact is that we are talking about a reputational failure of nato.f things on this conflict and other countries, which, hmm, are also bitches. it is known who they are watching now, how, uh, the same states of britain will behave. this is the first. second , after the completion of the special military operation, we will not talk about zelensky, but the guys from nato will need a scapegoat. this goat already knows this goat zelensky. excuse my french. well, i'll say this. uh, banal, it seems, but often they forget to get an answer about what is happening today and what will happen in the future, look into the past, especially since today . how u answered correctly to this disposes april 12, 1961 12 years have passed? sorry, i mean first. the first launch of a satellite, and then four years later, just 16 years later, the end of the great patriotic war is correct. and what is the great patriotic war in european? ah, the continent is the then european union under the leadership of hitler, that is, nato, his union in the current uh wording, and we went