like thell always navigation systems and so on which we offer. then we will be able in the future to connect an iphone via the carplay and getting a complement to offer of accessing your smart phone and playing some of the applications which are coming with the smartphone. >> this is territory that google and microsoft and blackberry. how would apple approach it differently than some of these other players? >> apple is approaching it, forgive the term, like in app- ification. from a blackberry standpoint they purchased a company that has the operating system that the car is delivering and presenting to the driver. this is a different approach. i've not heard the word "exclusive." we are working at the preamble of this story. i think you will see other suppliers trying to have their phone data presented to cars in the future. it'll come down to a user preference issue. >> it is not exclusive. or microsoft, blackberry, and so we want to do this, too? >> there are two perspectives. the perspective is the carmaker is to assure you have customers usin

. >> we are going to transition from a radar-based navigation system to a satellite-based navigation there's a lot of costs involved in some of the carriers, the airlines have been slow to adopt that because they're not really sure the federal government has that commitment as well to serve them with equip better. but until we get that we'll continue to have the dead zones out there. >> upgrades are on the way. experts say it would be possible for a determined flight crew to figure out where radar stations are, then adjust their direction or their altitude to avoid detection. >>> peter doocy. ukraine is planning to withdraw all of its troops from crimea. that's after pro-russian forces took control of the naval base and detained a commander there. we'll have that and continuing coverage of the disappearance of flight 370. that's coming right up. starts with back pain... ...and a choice. take 4 advil in a day which is 2 aleve... ...for all day relief. "start your engines" even turn night into day.ing. now she could use a hand, comfort keepers provides a variety of in-home services whil

it will be difficult to get lost unless there was a series of problems making the navigational system not work as designed or had that system give false information to the pilots. it's also possible that there could have been issues with pilot's misinterpreting correct information. this is getting a little ahead of the story. it's unclear weather the aircraft has crashed or the pilots were lost or off course at any point. but to make a complex story more simple, there's several ways they can get lost or offtrack. it depends on the situation this aircraft was in. two things to keep in mind - it was a night-time flight and a flight where the initial portion was over water. so you don't have the kind of reference points on the ground - lights, cities, et cetera, that you might have on an aircraft flying over north america. if there's confusion about their navigational situation, they may not have had many reference points on the outside to help them out. >> it's been eight hours since they were supposed to land. how do airlines cooperate with government officials and emergency workers. w

issues and high users of urgent and emergency care services and those that may not be able to navigate systems on their own. on the case management side, we served over 3,000 individuals with case management. one of the things that i have watched with the hot team over the years is they really do a great job of ensuring there are outcomes when it comes to work for individuals. 40 percent of them are security with financial benefits. that's one of the important parts of having the stabilization bids and 20 percent are qualified and secured ssi entitlement. >>supervisor mark farrell: supervisor avalos? >> there is a lot of terms that we are familiar with. can you describe what stabilization bed is. and can you tell the difference from a shelter and sro bed that might be more permanent. >> the stabilization beds are temporary housing. >>supervisor john avalos: temporary because there is a limit about how long they can stay in it? >> yes. it's part of the concern we had frs exit situation with the beds that allow some to stay longer. as an example those who are having difficult times to try to con

so we hear about people knowing that some sort of information has been put into the flight navigation system but we don't know what or if it was put in the roots or not. there could be plenty of information -- >> we're going to ask the experts later. he will be here with the big board and taking your questions on tour @seanhannity. joining me now, former u.s. official john mcgraw, look at this board and your thoughts on it. >> well, sean, sorry i can't see the board, let me get it turned around here. >> what we were describing to you that is really quickly here that it made this turn and it would be 1500 miles perhaps about here. we draw a straight line down that it went in that direction. the location where they're now searching off the coast of australia. >> well, you know, i completely agree with the previous guests that you have to look at every scenario at this point. we really don't have anything that we can rule out at this point. i think that the most probable outcome is that the airplane went south and continued south until it ran out of fuel. the satellite data that we have continu

. >> reporter: all right, we're talking about the autopilot and the automated navigation system. this is a system that works off what they call waypoints, points on a map that are well known to the aviators where their system will go directly, take them directly to pa thoithat point. we've already heard reports that it did that, but the question is why? what evidence do we have? was it the pilot trying to take the plane for his own personal reasons? we don't have any motive proved for that with the pilot, either one of them. was it hijackers that wanted to take the plane and they used that program to go someplace? well, we don't have any hijackers so far. everybody's gone over the list and there's no hijackers on it. what we do know is that the plane must have had a problem. you know, we talk about the one thing that has changed here, they no longer think that those systems were systematically turned off one by one, one of them before they said "all right, goodnight." they think that they might have gone down at the same time. electrical failure, electronic problems on the plane,

one example our car navigation systems that also transmit lots of information.a recent study analyzed the data of 100 million cars in europe and north america, and at least, now we know that belgium tops the list of countries with the worst traffic jams. trafford in brussels is worse than it is in l, manon, or london -- in l.a., milan, or london. >> taken together, traffic jams can add up to hundreds of kilometers. over 300,000 commuters drive into and out of the belgian capital every weekday, making it one of the most congested cities in the world. during the day, it's a short hop, but during morning rush hour, it can take as long as an hour and a half. he has moved a large part of his office out of brussels. >> we have an enormous mobility problem. it's getting harder and harder to get the employees, especially the ones from flanders, to come into the office here in brussels. >> the brussels area infrastructure is obsolete. plans to expand and have been in the works for years with little progress. heavy goods traffic has also been on the increase with trucks w

trying to piece together all of the electronic data, the information that comes from the navigation systems. and then overlay that with what's going on in the background of the pilots and anybody else on that airplane that could have had act says and knowledge of that navigation system to see if there's anything that would lead investigators to think that was a deliberate, nefarious act. >> so don, walk us through that from a criminal or terror investigation approach. that you sort of have a decision tree here of each act and weighting the evidence to see whether the act was something suspicious or some sort of other benign activity. >> well, you're going to start doing a very deep background investigation starting with the pilots. and you'll be looking at things like their telephone records, their computer records. not just the flight simulator, but e-mails, interviewing their colleagues, their family, their friends, to see if there's any shred of evidence that might link them to a criminal organization. you might also be looking for things of mental instability, financial. i mean, just --

looking at that report that, of course, the coordinates were entered into the plane's automated navigation system with some skepticism. the focus, though, seems to be very much on the pilots with u.s. investigators. if there's some reason why they haven't shared the evidence with us. because those pilots are coming up clean here in kuala lumpur. still, everybody on that flight is being further investigated. i'm sure they will carry this through. the significance, though, unclear at this time. meantime, the search goes on, because you're not going to see any evidence unless we find the plane. the australian maritime authority is doing the best it can to press the search in that area. the maximum that this plane could have gone with its known fuel supply. listen to what the australians had to say. >> the search area has been significantly refined. you can see here the lines that i briefed yesterday prepared by the u.s. national transportation safety board have been refined somewhat, based on better -- or more detailed analysis. the area at the end of those analyses has been refined by work done by

one example of ca navigation system shuttles to transmit a law that information. a recent study analyze the date of the hundred million cars in europe and north america and at least now we note that balance in tops the list of countries with the west took it to its traffic in brussels is a blast and eighties in the late milan on loan the assistance needed signs on the highways between and weapons process. taken together the traffic jams can add up to hundreds of concerts. over three hundred patients can use his drive into and exit that doesn't happen to every weekday the key is one of the most congested cities and lands ideal as a manager from oz today for two terms as anti brussels. during midday to two stores top boss during morning rush hour it can take as long as an hour and a huff tuesday night's part of his office the use of brussels to protests by khartoum and its use. nor will we be passed over the deployment we have an enormous mobility problems cool on its getting harder and harder to get the employees especially the ones from flanders to come into the o

numbers that are in the -- if they're punched in, if it's keyed, that's what's keyed into the navigation system. and it would have come back with the data that is exchanged between the plane and the control tower or malaysia airlines. so that was about the time, the last time at 1:07 that acars transmitted. so they said, that must have been the time when it was programmed in. sometime around that time frame. but that doesn't tell us exactly what happened onboard the plane. that doesn't tell us whether the pilot, you know, might have done that just in case he had an emergency, often pilots do that. let's take a closer look at what this search is tending to focus in just one area, really. investigatored have pursued the dogged possibility that the pilot and co-pilot maliciously steered flight 370 off its path. if they have any proof, it has not been shared publicly. >> i worked on many cases where the pilots were suspect and it turned out to be a mechanical and horrible problem. i have a saying myself, sometimes an erratic flightath is heroism not terrorism. and i always remind myself of that, no

they need to be able to navigate our system without having to pull out their hair and give up essentially. we have developed a common use outcome that is connected to institutional trust. that is then connected to professional development and capacity. so why should we have greater collaboration. how can this alignment towards one common goal support our children and families and make things better? because if you look at this chart, what you are going to see is we have an astounding number of city departments that currently fund children's services. looking at this you have different departments, human services agencies, first five and libraries and that's a large number of departments that are working together to try to improve the outcome for first to five and then we go to young people from kindergarten to 5th grade and we have a number of departments that are putting a lot of resources towards these populations. these are resources that are above and beyond the children's fund dollars and as well as the enrichment k funds and bringing federal dollars to the table. as you can imagine

. >> we will transition from radar-based navigation system to a satellite-based navigation system. lot of cost involved in carriers. airlines have been slow to adopt that because they are not sure the federal government has that commitment to serve them. until we get that done, we will continue to have these dead zones out there. >> when air-traffic controllers cannot see an ai error crash because of the dead zone they have to rely on the word over radio to figure out where the plane is. jon: mystery continues, thank you. jenna: we will get you updated on the latest twist around flight 370. somebody recently deleted files from the home flight simulator. they're trying to recover the lost data to see if it holds any clues of what happened. coming a day after a report of a crucial detail in the timeline apparently the jet made a sharp turn off course to the west. 12 minutes before the last munication with the ground. we are considering everything at this point. retired airline captain and aviation consultant. would that change your thought on what happened here if it was made before

plane was turned off that original course after someone typed a course change into an onboard navigation system in the cockpit. this would suggest someone had real training in the 777 systems, something far under sophisticated than simply turning a wheel. we asked malaysian authorities about that today. was the plane's path a westward direction programmed into the aircraft's flight management system? >> as far as we're concerned the aircraft was programmed to fly to bake. >> reporter: the c.e.o. of malaysia airlines said reports the plane's flight path was tampered with may have been speculation. is it plausible? is it something you're considered? >> once you're in the aircraft, anything is possible. >> reporter: that's only sharpened suspicion of the pilots zaharie ahmad shah and the copilot, fariq abdul hamid. >> captain zaharie is a person who enjoys his life, who loves doing things to make people happy. >> reporter: peter chong is quick to defend his friend, captain zaharie. a lot has been made of the fact that police found a flight simulator inside his house. who has a flight simulator in

will be able to find a charging station locations us smartphone app provided by posts go on a navigation system and a new ninety three the news to lodge the news stations comes ahead of the international action vehicle expo scheduled to start saturday at the international convention center on kitchen island weighing three thousand people expected to attend the bands including herself and forty related industries including three on motors and bmw teensy on a day means. we have this other top stories on the pool all fronts from a massive explosion that tore through a few buildings in new york to the closing of china's national people's congress the guilford for poly at the new center so paulette star with the deadly blast in east harlem what's the latest on that. will the death toll from wednesday's new york city building explosion has risen to seven with over sixty others reported injured emergency crews have been searching through the rubble all night to rescue any missing survivors. the sad cause has not been determined yet but authorities suspected gas leak is to blame our close ally has the

it is an unmanned submarine that goes back and forth and using the navigation system accurately records the sea floor. bring it up and it has a four gig flash memory and slap new batteries and sensors and put it back in the water and it goes again. it can go 24 or 25 hours while the data is analyzed in the mother ship. to your point. >> go ahead. >> yeah, like the australia defense minister said. we are not search issing for a needle in the hay tack. got to find the haystack. >> if that black box stops pinging information, there is not use for the device, am i correct? >> that's right. we don't know the battery is specked for a 30 hour performance. it may be slightly dead or go instead of 30 days go for 40. they will continue to use these. but back to your intro, until we find the debris field, those will sit on the beach. the navy has the operators down there and prepositioned everything. if we find the debris field we can jump on it and get out there. >> do you have any indication of a time line. how long u.s. officials will say in the investigation. they are expensive resources, am i

the turn was programed into aircraft computer navigation system rather than manual control, back withmer pentagon official kmcfarland. and dr. walid phares, thank you for being with us, would offer an interesting perspective from stand points of geo politics and terrorism on this flight. i'm going to begin with you, kt, we've had so much disinformation, misinformation a refuse rally to share information -- refusal to share information from the malaysian government, then allied countries, it is difficult to get a handle of the case let alone the solutions. >> we should stop thinking what we did or don't know about the plane, and turn it in the other direction, what does this show about us? to the world's reaction, bad guys issus are watching, what he they learned about our reaction? we saw ther thought there are en the sky, that can see everything, there are not, our satellites may look north but not south. they have also realizeed, you get on a plane in this day and age with a fake passport, pay cash for your one way ticket, that is all stuff that was warning signs for this september

he is chairman and ceo of star navigation systems. pany's in-flight safety monitoring system can track problems on airplanes in real time. and he joins us now with more on that. can you tell us more about the system and how it works? >> yes, definitely. and thank you for inviting us. basically our system is a realtime monitoring system which is compared to the black box or anything else is proactive rather than reactive. our system tweets every five minutes and they can be programmed to come in at every one second, 15 second, every minute. basically what we do is look at the system on board the aircraft through various data but pull information from. and this information is processed and then sent to the ground. within seconds they're able to know if there is any system degradation where the aircraft is within -- they can track it on their screens. we also have a second to none graphic user interface, which if there is an event or problem in the aircraft, mechanical, electrical, whatever, and if one of the data boxes picks it up, our s

was it turned by the navigation system. those are all open questions. there's a will the of plausible answers here. i still smell something. one thing that bothers me is the assumption that the trajectory that the airplane was making last time there was contact with it was something they would keep. if it was a hijacked airplane and we didn't know where it was after the last contract that could have been taken up north, south, east, west. that really complicates the matter. >> something could have gone wrong after that everybody who knows them say they are good guys. they love their air lines they love to fly airplanes. >> yeah. the captain has been with the company basically over 30 years. the co-pilot had some girls in the cockpit so he's a red-blooded 20 year old guy and his technique isn't very good. other than that, there's nothing else we know that that's really negative about these two guys. >> yeah, you know, wound up falling in love and meeting the right woman according to all accounts. the pilots wife just left him according to some reports. t

you can't have somebody hack into a system and change a heading on a navigation system. >> the initiala was the high likelihood that a catastrophic event had occurred in flight. it did not prove to be as viable because the airplane deviated so far from the flight plan it tracked. >> after satellite imagery shows what something could be debriefed from flight 370, search teams begin to search almost 1500 miles off the coast of australia. >> the flight would confirm some scenarios and discard other scenarios. it looks like this plane flew until it was exhausted. and it flew, it looks like, on autopilot. was that because the pilots were incapacitated? were they dead? did somebody in the cockpit have a psychotic episode and something happened? we don't know. bud when the plane flies 7-8 hours on aut pilot, you've got to believe something happened on that plane. >> the pilot is 53-year-old father of three. the co-pilot is 27-year-old farik abdul hami. >> when you're looking at the pilot and the co-pilot, what are you looking for? >> you are looking for anything that could cause them to take

you can't have somebody hack into a system and change a heading on a navigation system. t into the electrical system and start shutting down systems. >> another theory pursued by investigators, structural or mechanical failure caused by a fire or other cataclysmic event requiring a swift response from the cockpit, perhaps even causing the pilot to make the left-hand turn to head towards the nearest runway. >> the initial idea was the high likelihood that a catastrophic event had occurred in flight. and resulted in disabling the crew or some other catastrophic event did not prove to be as viable because the airplane deviated so far from the flight plan track. >> after satellite imagery shows what something could be debris from flight 370, search teams begin to search almost 1500 miles off the coast of australia. >> the possible finding could confirm some scenarios and discard other scenarios. it looked like this plane flew until its fuel was exhausted and it flew, it looks like, was on auto pilot. were the pilots incapacitated? were they dead? did somebody hijack the plane

and we know the more people we can get in global health and make sure our fellows understand navigating systems and changing policy to save lines then we can deal with the preventible and treatable systems that people deal with around the world. >> thank you for being here. >> thank you, i appreciate it. >>> from slefng to computers to -- cell phones to the computers to the tv you're watching us on, allen schauffler, has tried to unplug over the last few days. how did it work, allen? >> well, it was a really interesting exercise, john. we're talking about the fifth annual day of unplugging. maybe a day we can all take to cut loose from the computer, maybe drop the space command for the television on the wall and maybe just disconnect from this little thing which we spend so much time on. i did disconnect. it was interesting but i met a whole lot of people for whom unplugging was a matter of survival. >> by the time we met therapist cozette ray i had been unplugged for 24 hours. no faibing, no google -- facebooking no google mabs. >> what happens happening with your family, that's fairly normal.

>> it puts the navigation system is how you navigate the airplane and that is coupled off with the autopilot. so when you program a new waypoint into the computer, the airplane flies to that waypoint. that's obviously what the pilots have done or somebody has done with this airplane. it is a perfectly normal mode of control. >> what about this notion that seasoned veterans say, when you are making a flight like this, you know where the nearby airports are in case you have to land in an emergency. is that a plausible scenario? >> the sharp left turn takes you across malaysia out into the bay of bengal. it wouldn't seem to me that that would be a logical sanctuary for a crippled airplane. >> would you make these calculations and make these computations, would you be able to do that, peter, in flight, if something were going wrong? >> oh, absolutely right. these waypoints are generally identified. i don't know about the overseas routes but here in the u.s., way points are identified by a three or four or five-letter names. you just type those in. and the system knows where it goes from there. t

we know that that information must have been enter flood the navigation system known as the flight management system. we know that had to be done by human hands. the question is -- was it the pilots or was it a passenger who breached the cockpit? the co-pilot had a history of allowing passengers into the cockpit which creates a security dilemma. not uncommon in non-western airlines. it happens fairly commonly. it is not disparaging but it creates a security dilemma. did a passenger breach cockpit, hold a hostage and force the crew to enter those coordinates? or did one of the pilots have an agenda? well, the background of the pilots doesn't suggest they had an agenda. so we are left with the question -- the pilots or passengers? >> let me go back one step further to the pilot. we have this information about the deleted files off the flight simulator. is there anything in and of itself us is patient bus that? >> no, not at all. i have a flight simulator myself. i delete files all the time. essentially some of the flight simulators are just pcs with enhanced programs and lots of computer screen

citing the westerly turn that diverted the plane off of it flight path was programmed into the navigation systembly by someone in the cockpit. there is another strange claim today about the missing jet. a low-flying jumbo jet on the morning the plane disappeared. the island -- roughly right in the midway between those two areas. very late to be getting sky witness reports to something that happened 10 days ago. i guess that is the kind of way the search has gone so far. every day brings out a new sighting or a new theory. adam: ashley webster, thank you. watching shares of hurts. it will bring in two and a half billion dollars. the proceeds are expected to close early next year. hurts will focus on the rental car business. it has great even share results. cheryl: housing red flags out there. adjustable rate mortgages are making a big comeback. what could go wrong this time. adam: the largest u.s. automaker has to get out ahead of a massive vehicle recall. they admit the automaker fell short. ♪ if you've got copd like me... ...hey breathing's hard. know the feeling? copd includes emphysema and ch

was the airplane turned by the pilot or the navigation system?f plausible answers here the assumption is the trajectory the airplane was making was one they would keep. if it was a hijacked airplane we didn't know where it was after that last contact that could have been taken up north, south, east or west. that really complicated the matter. >> something could have gone wrong after the point. >> before i go no history of extremism as far as we can tell. everybody who knows these are good guys no history problems they love their air lean they love to fly airplanes. >> all we found out is the captain has been with the company over 30 years. the co pilot had girls with the cockpit. he is a red flooded 20-year-old guy on the hustle and his technique isn't very good apparently. other than that there's nothing else we know that is negative about these two guys. >> yeah. wound up falling in love and meeting the right woman according to all accounts. the pilot's wife had just left him according to some reports. thank you both. >> thank you megan. whatev

i suspect by the auto pilot because the navigation systems are not connected to the communication systems that have been disabled. so i'm very convinced that someone took this aircraft, took it off course and flew it again with the altitude information from the "wall street journal," i don't put a lot of credibility into that because i just don't believe in primary radar that much. so the fact that it went both directions, yes. >> let me jump in. i am not an expert here nor are most of the people watching this. so let's presume that theory is correct, that somebody, a copilot, a pilot, somebody else possibly, has taken control of this plane. they've got to be highly skilled to do what they do. how did they then keep this plane flying for four, possibly five hours, possibly even longer without any detection? just explain to me how that physically can happen. >> pilots have been flying map of the earth for years, as soon as radar came out they figured out they could fly at low altitudes and not be picked up by primary radar. that's not a surprise. it's been around for years. so that doesn't

you can't have somebody hack into a system and errantly change a heading on a navigation system, workto the electric system and start shutting down systems. >> another theory pursued by investigators, structural or mechanical failure caused by a fire or other cataclysmic event requiring a swift response from the cockpit. perhaps even causing the pilot to make that left turn to head toward the nearest runway. >> the initial ideas that a catastrophic event had occurred in flight and resulted in disabling the crew or some other catastrophic event did not prove to be as viable because the airplane deviated so far from the flight plan track. >> after satellite imagery show what some think is debris from flight 370, search teams begin to focus on an area almost 1,500 miles off the coast of australia. >> the possible finding of this debris really would confirm some scenarios and it would discard other scenario ps . >> it looks like this plane flew until its fuel was exhausted. and it flew, it looks like on auto pilot. was that because the pilots were incapacitated? were they dead? did somebo

again, the question is, was the airplane turned by the pilot, was it turned by the navigation system?se are all open questions. and there's a lot of plausible answers here. i still smell something. one thing that bothers me is the assumption is that the trajectory that airplane was making the last time some contact was made with it was one they would keep. if it was a hijacked airplane and we didn't know where it was after that last contact, that could have been taken back up north, south, east or west, and that really complicates the matter. >> so something could have gone wrong after that point. before i let you go, quickly, mike, no history of extremism in either of the backgrounds as far as we can tell? everybody who knows them tell us these are good guys, no history of problems, they loved their airline, they loved to fly airplanes. >> yeah. all we found out was kapt takcas been with the company basically over 30 years. the captain had some girls in the cockpit. he's a red-blooded guy, an american hustler, and his technique isn't all that smooth. other than that, there's nothing

was it turned by the navigation system? those are all open questions. there are a lot of plausible answers here, i still smell something. one of the things that bothers me the assumption, the trajectory that the airplane was making last time contact was made with it was one they would keep. if it was a hijacked airplane and we didn't know where it was after that last contact that could have been taking back up north, south, east or west. and that really complicates the matter. >> uh-huh so something could have gone wrong by that point. no history of extremism in either backgrounds as far as we can tell. everybody who knows them, they're good guys, no history of problems, they love their airlines and love to fly planes. >> yeah, all we can find out is the captain has been a pilot for 30 years. all right, the young guy had two girls in the cockpit, he is a red-blooded 20-year-old, his technique was not very good. but there is really nothing it we know about these two guys. >> and the pilot's wife had just left him according to some reports. thank you both

in the meantime, we report on the programming of the automatic navigation system, that it might have been preprogrammed, even before it made that hard left turn away from its -- and deviated from its normal course of flight. we are looking at that, and wondering what the significance is. we know that they've concentrated on the pilots. but that doesn't necessarily mean that the pilots were doing something wrong. or had a nefarious plan. they could have been putting in alternate route to an airport that they would need in case of an in which. and these kinds of cases, as we've heard in the past, there are many things going on in an aircraft we may not understand. here's cnn aviation analyst mary schiavo. >> i've worked on many cases where the pilots were suspect, and it turned out to be mechanical and a horrible, horrible problem. i have a saying myself, sometimes it an erratic flight path is heroism, not terrorism. and i always remind myself not to jump to that conclusion. because sometimes, pilots are fighting just amazing battles, and we never hear about it. >> all right. now, we k

about the course change that as it is now being reported was implemented and inputted into the navigation systemminutes in advance. is it possible one of the pilots did it without the other one knowing? >> maybe. maybe the guy was in the bathroom. once they are seated at the controls, you look at this. this is the navigation display. now, let's show you what should be here and then we will put in what would look like the route to beijing. this magenta line, that's the way to beijing. anybody looking at that screen, even me, what do you see? this huge and very obvious turn. that turn is a major deviation away from the course. it was clear for at least 12 minutes from both perspectives. that change was coming. it is a red flag, a flare in the night. this plane is going to do something very dramatic. what does it mean? it means that both pilots were in on it or one pilot was going to make the turn and the other couldn't do anything to stop them. in other words, incapacitated. >> yes. >> or it could be maybe they anticipated an emergency and were planning to make this turn. all we know for certain i

occasions director of the national geospatial intelligence agency. 16 satellitese that guide our navigation systems in the u.s.. it is quite remarkable. have 16,000 employees to do that. i think they were doing something else. what do you think? [laughter] now he has a role of being .hairman of the tpu are a what is the last word? >> [inaudible] >> authority. arthur has a lot of skills outside of all of the incredible serious and intelligent view of the world. marvelous limitations. i will ask you to do one. [laughter] he has an incredible knowledge of language. aboutdoing a talk to three or 400 people from africa. half of them from africa and half -- it was about doing business in africa. are there had been a lot of time in the congo. afterwards, the africans come up to me. you got it right. he would say, where you from? they would say i'm from -- he would start speaking some native tongue of the tribe. and then somebody would come and he would speak the native tongue. only about eight words. he left them in a complete blather. how does this guy know our language anyway? with that, can you do jimm

a physiological problem with the pilots in the cockpit to another mechanical problem in the navigation system where they were flying, you know, for a significant period of time. but they were off the net or certainly a deliberate choice. once you look at that level of theory where deliberately they could be flying off their course, you have to draw that ring and go, wow, now you are dealing with a needle in a hay stack to try and find that search area with a large ocean area is very challenging. >> hank, i have heard that some people even suggest it might like paying stuart where the pilots were disabled. but they have masks in that plane and don't those masks also have microphones in them so they could even communicate? you flew 777s, wouldn't they still be able to communicate with someone? >> is that for me, greta? >> yes, hank. >> oh, yes. oxygen masks have mikes in them just the same as we always wore a little head set mike with a boom mike and if you put on your head set, the mike -- the head set has the mike in it and it has a button on the yoke on the wheel to key the mike. so you can

. >> with low visibility and few remaining control or navigation systems, captain cameron is flying almost we have no heading. we have no instruments. all we have is laser right now. >> i would have been up close like this with my eyeball maybe three, four inches away from the window on the left side. at this point you know you got something serious. when you got the thing lit like a christmas tree. i didn't think about what was burning or what had happened. i just knew something serious had happened. >> you can advise people on the ground there we're going to need fire trucks. >> the trucks are standing by for you, air canada. can you give me number of people and amount of fuel? >> we don't have time. it's getting worse. >> you could definitely feel when we started to descend because it was a really dramatic, quick decline. i definitely questioned whether or not we would make it safely to the ground. that's when my fear was probably peaked. >> the captain is now completely relying on air traffic control to guide him down to the airport. >> roger. you're 14 miles east of the airport. conti

>> well, we get the gps ordnance of where it needs to go and enter them into the navigation system anddispatch the drone and it lands and you retrieve the package and off the drone goes back from where it came. >> neil: so there is no chance here that something will get screwed up and it launches a missile from a house? [laughter] >> maybe your house, but-- >> there's a 5-meter gps possibility of a mistake, right? so it has to be-- it will land within 5 meters of that pinpoint. so, that's a little bit spooky. you have to be-- we were testing out on frozen lakes where there was ice fishing houses because you're not trying to land in someone's front yard. >> neil: do you think there is a convenience risk in the search for convenience? one of these could go wrong or hit someone on the head and then all bets are off. >> there has been accidents already and so this is why they are being so careful about the faa galatians and that's why they appealed it on friday and all the regulations are back holding right now. we were all the way out to the lake on friday to start again and then we ot th