nelson. ms. nelson: yes. sen. klobuchar: do you agree that the vice president has no authority to decide which electoral votes to count and do commit to update the lock to make it is clear the vice president has no authority to reject electoral votes. mr. bauer: yes. mr. gore: yes. mr. eisen: agreed. mr. muller: yes. ms. nelson: yes. sen. klobuchar: it only takes one representative and one senator to force each chamber into a vote -- a discussion on electoral votes. do you support raising the threshold to 1/5 of each chamber to sign any objection before it can be debated as suggested? mr. bauer? mr. bauer: yes. mr. gore: yes. mr. eisen: yes. mr. muller: yes. ms. nelson: yes. sen. klobuchar: okay. good. i thought it was important -- some of our questions will be about details but on the men part of this bill we agree. one area that has received a lot of attention is the role of the federal courts in ensuring state officials comply with their duty to certify electors who reflect the outcome of the election. mr. eise

nelson. ms. nelson: yes. sen. klobuchar: do you agree that the vice president has no authority to decide which electoral votes to count and do commit to update the lock to make it is clear the vice president has no authority to reject electoral votes. mr. bauer: yes. mr. gore: yes. mr. eisen: agreed. mr. muller: yes. ms. nelson: yes. sen. klobuchar: it only takes one representative and one senator to force each chamber into a vote -- a discussion on electoral votes. do you support raising the threshold to 1/5 of each chamber to sign any objection before it can be debated as suggested? mr. bauer? mr. bauer: yes. mr. gore: yes. mr. eisen: yes. mr. muller: yes. ms. nelson: yes. sen. klobuchar: okay. good. i thought it was important -- some of our questions will be about details but on the men part of this bill we agree. one area that has received a lot of attention is the role of the federal courts in ensuring state officials comply with their duty to certify electors who reflect the outcome of the election. mr. eise

we come from the lens of nelson mandela. we come from the background and the history of a party, a party. it was a form or 1st resume, your u. s. and s. when the listeners must understand that these are all on the a lot of them sitting in nazi germany and after 945, they can start their own off now doesn't or questions then with the party. so, so from the length of next monday, we know, once i shoot me, we know what the war he's, we'd know what aggression use and therefore the news is we wanted to where we see everything they're supposed to do with modern technologies. those are media, you know, that from the very beginning there has been a disagreement. oh, who are the main protagonist, whether it is neighborly, tries between a russian ukraine for the independence of your cream or whether it involves some other actors as well. how do you see when i started by expressing from my slides yellow, our sense of those most rare human beats. and i sense of the progress to see what i can see, the brother and sister at wal ross. well

we come from the length of nelson mandela. we come from the background and the history of our policies. a party, it was a for more fish is room your us and as well as the listeners must understand that these are all on the a lot of them sitting in nazi germany. and after $945.00, they came here to start their own home off. now just them or fresh is then with the party. so, so from the length of nestor monday, we know one since i see we know what the war he's, we know what aggression is. and therefore when the news is, when on the web you see everything is supposed to do with modern technology. media . you know that from the very beginning it, there has been a disagreement. oh, who are the main protagonist, whether it is neighborly, tries between russia and ukraine for the independence of ukraine, or whether it involves some other actors as well. how do you see when i started by expressing from my slides yellow, our sense of cuts go straight, human beats. and i sense of the progress to see what i consider brothers and sisters a

and this is an ally of nelson mandela. this isn't always great to talk to you. thank you very much for your time as well. let's see. now, you're literally your worlds apart from russia and ukraine in johannesburg, some 15000 kilometers away from where we are. how much attention is given to this conflict in your part of the world and how is that covered the world? is the global really, you know, uh huh. there's nothing any way where that is in the oscar to home. do what i said. thank you, model for right now, whether it is body music is there with them or you're going over the discussion by love all with or that we get these things on time on the floor. and i must say, lou from the stops we have it. but it's our disappointment. am i the think that there's been attempts, though, since i news, we come from the lens of nelson mandela. we come from the background and the history of class. he's a party, it was a home or 1st room you owe us. and when the listeners must understand that there's either go on to a lot of them said in nazi germany. and after $945.00, they c

but i know for a fact that nelson mandela, we're white some time. i mean this person who is now considered to be one of the carriers greatest carriers of human conscience. he was considered a terrorist that he couldn't receive an american visa for whites on a time when in your own perception, when did that sweet occur? when he saw was some being seen as a, as a terrorist and suddenly became one of the saints. i got news for you. i'm to this day i'm to we've got this case with nelson mandela went to the white house and miss president george bush and other people on that is that ice. and so one of the things i was lazy and like i said this question was this thing of being continued to be classified this tell this, you know, that is possible. i but it's in my passport, i'm still restricted. i want to america a switch because we, we, we, we, we, we're having the cottage and the owner, austin, the are for the freedom of our people. now, in america and other parts of the world to us all worlds apart, like you'll see where some other people are supporting

but i know for a fact that nelson mandela are white some time. i mean, this person who is now considered to be one of the carriers greatest carriers of human conscience. he was considered a terrorist and he couldn't receive an american visa for quite some time. when in your own perception, when did that sweet occur? when he start was some being seen as a, as a, as a terrorist. and suddenly it became a one of the scenes. i go news for you until this dam classified as a terrorist. i'm. it was to go this phase with nelson mandela went to the white house and met president george bush and other people. consider the license for one of the things i was lazy. and like i said, this question was, this thing of being continued to be classified. this tell this, you know, that is possible, but it's in my passport. i'm still restricted. i want our medical a switch. because we, we were having the cottage and the owner, austin the for the freedom of our people. now, in america now the puzzle delivered to us, oh, well, the park like we'll see where some of the pe

i got to know for example bill nelson from florida veterans. i got to know the others on the trip as well better because the trade was together. it was a lightning experience about what was going on in south america particularly in columbia. then of course following the 9/11 i went to afghanistan as well as other places in the middle east in particular in afghanistan. i went with tim hutchinson and others and we were equated and always one that i reached across to them she reached across to me to see if we can find commonality on particular issues. we worked together great deal. getting to know people pulling tricks, i'm a trickster, pulling tricks on people. figuring out whether i get byig with it. a bit of an agitator with a few tricks along the way. the one trip i went with my colleagues but we went into a war zone and for them add to t-shirts with bull's-eyes on the t-shirt and mine was playing blank. we began to have personal relationships no matter whether we get through uber or being together finding out about families and learning more

but i got to know for example i got to know bill nelson from florida. then i got to go to the others that were on the trail , on the trip as well. it's fair because of the time we spent together and it was a enlightening experience about what was going on in south america particularly in columbia. then of course following the 9/11, i went to afghanistan as well as to other places in the middle east. but particularly in afghanistan, i went with tim hutchinson and with olympia snowe. and others and we got to better acquainted with and we were able to work together. a deal was one i always reached across to whether ever she reached across to me to see if we can find commonality on particular issues and we work together a great deal. so getting to know people, pulling tricks tricks on people. always figuring out whether i would overstep but being a bit of a agitator was with a few tricks along the way. on one trip i ran into a couple of my colleagues but we went into the war zone and i had for them to t-shirts with bull's-eyes. on the t-shirts and mine was

thomas nelson page popularize the plantation romance set in the antebellum civil war period. americans seemed to have found simpler lives in close relationships on the plantation. magazines, because of their growing readership, presented a new, lucrative pathway into a literary career. "the atlantic" commanded great respect. "harper's monthly" was the best-selling magazine of the day. both faced competition from the illustrated magazine, as well as others like appleton's and lippincott. emily reeves -- amelie rives claimed she had an almost accidental entrance into publishing. three years after her first story appeared, she said, "i wrote that into evenings, sitting up in bed. i wrote it because i like to write and because i had the story in my mind. one day a nice boy of who we were very fond was visiting at the house and found that story in the library. nothing would do but he must take it back to boston when he went." he then submitted it to the atlantic monthly. these basic facts, while correct, indicated nothing of the deliberate campaign that amelie rives had waged to b

as i say in the book it's an odyssey from that background and through working with nelson rockefelleraragon to wind up with richard nixon who i think romley was not seen as someone really as a progressive liberal and an agent for good. >> and your father who is an engineer or chemist and was not a politician had observed nixon because he hit gone to observe the eisenhower cabinet. >> he was from a coal-mining family of 10 from west virginia. he was the first in his family to go to college but he wound up in the executive office of the president in charge of defense and mobilization and in the course of that he had a couple of occasions to present it and he had impressions of richard nixon which worked hostile but they weren't glowingly positive. >> they are is so much in the book and we have so all-time so i'm just going to start one of the figures as you describe in the actions i guess of the wu republican party one of the most -- party's thomas dewey of the governor of new york and attorney general who is a big crime buster. >> he was long neglected but a fascinating fellow. he was

we come from the lens of nelson mandela. we come from the background and the history of a party, a party. it was a form or 1st room your us and s, when the listeners must understand that these are all on the a lot of them sitting in nazi germany. and after $945.00, they came here to start their own off. now just in or fresh has been with the party . so, so from the length of next monday, we know one since i see we know what the war he's, we know what aggression he's. and therefore, when the news displayed on the web, you see everything is supposed to do with modern technology media. you know that from the very beginning there has been a disagreement. oh, who are the main protagonist? whether it is neighborly tries between russia and ukraine for the independence of your cream or whether it involves some other actors as well. how do you see when i started by expressing from my client, you know, our sense of those really human beats and our sense of.

i got news for you until this dam classified as the drivers from we've got this case with nelson mandela went to the white house and miss pleasant, johns bush and other people counted his eyes. and so one of the things i was lazy and like i said, raise this question, was this thing of been continued to be classified this? tell this, you know, that is possible. i but it's in my passport, i'm still restricted. i go to america. does that a switch? because we, we, we, we, we're having the cottage and the owner, austin, the are for the freedom of our people. now in america and other parts of the world to us all worlds apart like you'll see where some other people are supporting us. and some of the people are against us, but you know, it's lindy becoming president. people change. i became a prim. yeah. it does. the medulla became a president and told him that climb up with level $33.00 in america. but when i went and talked to one of the business, you start to stream up with the game. but this was so i kept on being stop at the airport and i guess i will give them because i know the current ad

and i say, well, we have prominent south african petition business matter and ally of nelson mandela mrc. while before the break, you mentioned that in your anti apartheid struggle, you were supported by people from around the world in the americans. but i know for a fact that nelson mandela, ah, why some time, i mean this person who is now considered to be one of the carriers greatest carriers of human conscience. he was considered a terrorist and he couldn't receive an american visa for quite some time. when in your own perception, when did that sweet occur? when he start was some being seen as a, as a, as a terrorist. and suddenly it became one of the scenes. i go news for you until this dam trust surprises. the terrors from it. we took up this case with nelson mandela, went to the white house and met president george bush and other people can get his license for one of the things i was lazy. and like i said, this question was, this thing of being continued to be classified. this tell this, you know, that is possible, but it's in my passport. i'm still restricted. i got a switch b

(laughs) >> we have a picture, i think, with nelson rockefeller. tell us about him and what is going on there. >> i wound up -- a lot of us were partial to rockefeller. but i had done some work for rockefeller as the original oppo research. oppositional research on barry goldwater. and this has been taken from 1968. when i wound up being head of delegate intelligence for nelson rockefeller's presidential campaign, where we built files on all 1333 delegates to the convention. i was working for their social associations. i had to find out what their interests were -- for foreign policy or defense or health care. and so that's when i was working in. as i say in the book, he had a glow. nelson was a schmoozer and who was not particularly articulate, but going back to romney, romney had real feelings about religion and such. and nelson rockefeller would occasionally try to lumber through that sort of thing. he had what we called the bomb fog speech. it was not very successful. but he was at the same time a builder, he was a strong personality and figure

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best-selling author sophia nelson is out with a new book aimed at offering support.t is called "be the one you need." let's start with the book. what did you learn by taking care of everybody but yourself, and what was the tipping point? >> i got covid twice. i got it in february 2020, which is before we knew what it was, but i was definitely ill, and after the vaccines and all, i got a breakthrough case in august 2021 and when you are sick like that thinking about your life and your mortality -- i had a sick parent that could not take care of herself. she cannot even drive a car anymore. you talk about a whole lot converging at once, and i started asking myself questions like -- what are you doing with your life? do you have a life? are you taking care of you for doing too much for everyone else? for me, the tipping point was getting cold with that first time and being very sick and getting that breakthrough a year later and having to stop and say, what am i doing for me? am i looking out for me while i take care of everyone else? jeff: you're the oldest child, the

i club, country, pewter nelson. you've been very good with your time. just one more issue. if i may perhaps just get your thoughts on the, the economic issues routing this, there's been a lot of talk at between the us and china over computer chips being made and type pay. we're talking about billions of dollars just briefly. it is money, an issue here is the economy. an issue? well, i think for china, money is not an issue when it comes to taiwan. this is my personal observation. yes. semiconductor business is big time in taiwan and more than half of the world's chips are being produced in taiwan. so yes, the us government has expressed its determination to control almost all of the trick manufacturers. but china is not that much concern to china. this is more of a national re unification issue rather than an economic one. ok, well you've been a fight enough knowledge has all. thank you so much for coming in the program and sharing your views with the chairman of the shanghai center for impact on international studi

. >> nelson held a special bond with his longtime partner, lillie hsu. an immigrant from china who blossomed into a highly accomplished and beloved dentist with practices in oakland's chinatown. >> all of her referrals. her business came from referral after referral because people trusted her and her work ethic. >> it is a bond of admiration and respect. the couple were on their way to get everest -- get a massage and little saigon. they never made it to that appointment. >> i heard two or three bangs and then all of this on a flash. >> surveillance shows an older model lexus sedan. you can see a suspect emerge. multiple gunshots rang out and nelson says lily was hit twice in the back. nothing was taken. those five seconds change his life forever. quasi ran around the side of the car and she was on the ground. she was semiconscious but not able to really respond. >> nelson held billy in his arms until the emblems arrived. later that evening she was pronounced dead at the hospital. >> another murder in little saigon. >> little saigon and oakland community

and nelson rockefeller would occasionally try to go through that sort of thing. he had what we called the bomb fog speech. it was not very successful. but he was at the same time, a builder, he was a strong personality. and he had really very muscular -- he was a case in point of a republican who wanted to do things with and through government. did >> richard norton smith seems to be the leitmotif of this evening. but he had this rockefeller why roughly. tell us about another titanic figure. you had worked with him closely. tell us about pat moynahan. >> pat monahan is one of the linchpins of any story of the first nixon white house. and in my view, of nixon's appetite for policy. his desire to use facts as well as politics to make a decision. and pat moynahan was a partisan democrat. an active partisan democrat. he tried, unsuccessfully, to run in new york city for public office. and he had been despised during his work in the kennedy and johnson administrations. he published something called the -- family report, which essentially it was a very sympathetic unde

the worst had cities so far as nelson in the north of the south island. with the initial dan pour over, people are now returning to their homes, only for some to discover their uninhabitable top breaking. i am all the way through the house and, and it's just an squashing mud everywhere the cars is pretty much a right off. i feel on the walk as okay, so that is fantastic. and yeah, even the bath, his mud and i've never seen anything like it before. quite amazing. and all happened. the course of a few minutes. gardens have been transformed into murky pools and parked cars, locked in mud. officials say it will take a long time to repair the damage. i think that were years away. sorry from, from her recovery. and the, the point was that and as we were driving and there was slips falling everywhere and to be honest, i don't know what that assistant will be. we still in the response mode, we will have to assist that. and that will be part of the recovery, and i, i just don't know at the moment, nelson's pricing itself for more chaos. further downpours are expec

we come from the length of nelson mandela. we come from the background and the history of all parties, a party, it was a for more fish resume your us and s. when a say listeners must understand that these are all on the a lot of them sitting in nazi germany. and after 945, they came here to start their own formal for all of them or fresh has been with the party. so, so from the length of next monday, we know one since i see we know what the war he's, we'd know what aggression use and therefore the news is we wanted to where we see everything they're supposed to do with modern technologies. those are media, you know, that from the very beginning there has been a disagreement. oh, who are the main protagonist, whether it is neighborly, tries between a russian ukraine for the independence of your cream or whether it involves some other actors as well. how do you see when i started by expressing for my slides yellow, our sense of those those for human beats. and i sense of the progress to see what i consider brothers and sisters a

and we're speaking to nelson one now since a long time involved. i club country, pewter nelson, you've been very good with your time. just one more issue. if i may perhaps just get your thoughts. busy on the economic issues writing this, there's been a lot of talk at between the us and china over computer chips being made and type pay. we're talking about billions of dollars just briefly. it is money. an issue here is the economy an issue? well, i think for china, money is not an issue when it comes to taiwan. this is my personal observation. yes. semiconductor business is big time in taiwan and more than half of the world's chips are being produced in taiwan. so yes, the u. s. government has express.

joining us now, erik nelson, wells fargo macro strategist. what do you make of some of this renewed dollar strength? it might have caught some people off guard. erik: what really stands out to me, especially in the past week, we have seen a surge in the dollar. the u.k. and europe have been leading global yields. we should be seeing the dollar lower. why is it not lower? commodities are the big story. power prices and natural gas prices are surging globally. it is weighing on the euro and sterling. the u.s. is becoming a net commodity exporter. a lot of liquid natural gas. you have terms of trade being more of a driver of fx. i think this is an underappreciated story and something that will continue to drive dollar strength going forward. jon: there has been so much focus on what fed players have said this week in the commitment to higher rates. there has been an emphasis with what is happening with the u.s. economy today. weakening gas prices is a near help to americans. the jobs market data we have seen has stayed relatively strong. the ide

nelson.he moon tomorrow strategy, doing this in 18 years, i'm curious how you balance this with getting stuck on the moon, and those who really want to get stuck on the moon, if they want to have a sustainable presence. how do you balance that come up with a kate in -- a cadence of that. satisfying both groups. >> that is a great question, and it has been our intention throughout, and we go to the moon to mars, and we support the continuity of staying on course. i think what we have done is we have continued to work with the industry partners to develop objectives, about 50, and it's under development, and fine-tuning, and they objectify both the moon and mars as targets, and they are integrated, and they demonstrate how doing things on the moon will help us get accessibility to mars. we are striking a balance, and it is never the moon or mars. there was a mars horizon goal, and it has a history of the horizon, and the martian horizon will. if there is something else you would like to add? >>

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how's that going to affect nelson residence? we're really, we're on an issue. we're a city, but we're dealing with an nation and apply the challenge, i think for us of what was experienced the list that being said, moving up the hill doesn't necessarily lead twist paper outcome in the same thing. and it was last time not about blood and then on the plains and takes me about land lines on the hill. and i think when you feel very like, actually we were we but supposedly team for climate. and i really want to continue the algebra and say, i'm acutely aware of the extreme with or of the instead of the part of the blog are experiencing in watching for the last year. it's a month to month and some likely have to dig the cards to play with an equally we are basically an island of the sea. and, you know, we have a place to live on, manly, and an easy thing to work with the living all the health, but we've got to try and date. well, hopefully that ryan is, is off really so and thank you very much. that is, rachel raced the me of nelson, thank you for being on the progra

among the speakers will be nasa administrator bill nelson. live coverage begins at 2:30 eastern on c-span. you can also watch on our free mobile video at c-span now or online at c-span.org. announcer: former marine fighter pilot amy mcgrath and foreign policy defense expert michael ohanlan discuss out of the marine corps is modernizing itself to deter chinese aggression ending in the pacific. they explore how monetization relates to the russian invasion of ukraine and the potential chinese invasion of taiwan. the brookings institute host this conversation. >> i am joined today by two luminaries, amy mcgrath is a graduate of the west naval academy who served 20 years in the marines. she was the first woman in the marine corps to fly a combat mission in the fa18 and completed three combat deployments before continuing her service as an advisor to the u.s. house of representati

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but if willie nelson can't vote, then we might have a chance. deliberate attempts to inconvenience your vote, to make it harder. there are a lot of people who are improving this process. we have one of the most free and fair elections in 2020 because of the people sitting here like [no audio] jena griswold. jena griswold: this inconveniencing is elected officials trying to steal their seats. this inconvenience is a strategy that is so un-american that these people should have full shame and what they do. it is not just the right to vote, that they are stealing from the american people. it is tied into reasonable gun reform. making sure there are background checks. the attack on women, the fact that there are attacks on marriage equality. this is egregious what these folks are doing and we should call it out for exactly what it is. with that said, there is hope. one of the things that we have to do is elect people who are willing to protect the foundation of this country. who believe that it is the american people who get to decide the elections

nelson? i never got it, but i was 0. it said that the bullet economy, i thought it all took last to latham on the well, the oh, the get conflict. when you sure. i don't want to put a little go to, but shelf turned a blind eye to some protest and ordered others to be put down by force. riots in baku and tbilisi were violently dispersed. in january 1991 moscow made a last attempt to reassert its influence in the baltics. special forces were deployed to view the lithuanian capital and were ordered to clear the t. v. broadcasting center of nationalists. no typical national renew. bullish credit. when are you at the cross cash parking spot? lariche you're when you're studying, when you have a project that you reported sunday school, so you marshall's eligible or fellowship? maybe you're out your foremost so you're just starting to come. oh, what my supposed to be. myrtle is it can you read is pretty butcher 3 us from our ship or store from 0 was it's a new fords or some president question. so phillips, sorting the balloons of

father nelson, perry olson, thank you for joining us this morning. >> you are welcome. >> thank you forley: absolutely. speaker pelosi's husband, paul, pleaded guilty in his dui case and l for the first time, we are getting to see the dashcam video. >> you were involved in a crash. and now i can see that you are very unsteady on your feet. >> carley: we will see more of that tape and tell you what comes next in the case. >> todd: plus, centering a conservative on the eve of the primary. what happened when twitter band the account and republican running in a solidly blue district? we are asking him. there he is... next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> carley: president biden expected to announce a costly plan later today forgive and forget $300 billion in student loan debt. conservatives and even some democrats with the president say the progressive proposals don't go far enough. >> todd: kevin corke joining us from washington with all the details. >> good morning, guys precise details of the biden plan will have an income cap and allow forgiveness of loans up to $125,000 in salary. but still the plan has no

looks good, but it could, but he should clear what is it, miss nelson? i never got the report i was 0. it said that the bullet economy the vote at all took last to latham on the well known the get conflict of when you sure i don't know when to put additional but shelf turned a blind eye to some protest and ordered others to be put down by force riots in back who in tbilisi were violently dispersed. in january 1991 moscow made a last attempt to reassert its influence in the baltics. special forces were deployed to vilios the lithuanian capital and were ordered to clear the t. v. broadcasting center of nationalists. no typical national genius would if so our credit when william, if the cough has public specialist you're when you're studying, when you had to rub stuff or what did that unit for summer school. so you muscles other traveler fellowship. maybe you're right, you're almost push or you're just starting to come over. most kids the middle school is a can you videos pretty butcher 3 years to ship or store fronts? vehicle was it's a new fords or some p

jo phillips and nigel nelson. great to see you. we will talk to you again very soon. believe that it's exactly ten years since this site was just getting ready to host the 2012 olympic games? it feels like it was yesterday that this olympic stadium was alive with the roars of the crowds, cheering on the athletes.

and this is an ally of nelson mandela. this is a while, it's great to talk to you. thank you very much for your time as well. let's see. now, you're literally your worlds apart from russia and ukraine in johannesburg, some 15000 kilometers away from where we are. how much attention is given to this conflict in your part of the world, and how is that covered the world? is that global? really? you know, there's nothing any way. a model for right now whether it is body music is there with that you're going over the discussion by law always a.