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is the ticket in which nelson mandela would go to jail. -- is the decade in which nelson mandela would go to jail. when many would go into exile. there is the killing of people in places like soweto. the assassination of the president of the african national congress. people go into the 1970's in a very fearful moment. the generation i come from have no direct memory of the repression of the 1960's. i go to high school in 1976 in soweto. the township's out of your johannesburg, you have students who take to the streets rejecting the system of apartheid not knowing the fear of the 1960's, having absolute fearlessness as they go about their business. ever since, there is this revival and the struggle of an idea called black consciousness, that an affirmation that black is not something to be discussed it at, but that black is something that is beautiful and that we can live with this black identity. so the new unity for just outside of the apartheid state. so that lays the foundation through 1976 through the 1980's with young people largely showing their fearlessness. >> and you were a t

when nelson mandela turns 94, the occasion draws a crowd, especially here in the rural village of qunu ancestral home to which he's returned. among those attending was former president bill clinton who has maintained a friendship with the former south african president. mandela himself is too frail to make public appearances these days. >> is he one of your heroes? >> well, i don't think he wanted to be a hero. i think he wanted to lead his country into freedom and unity. and it was heroic and when the price turned out to be very high, he just kept paying it. >> it's a special birthday celebration that gets expressed in many ways. through a song children in south africa and beyond have been rehearsing. >> happy birthday to you ♪ >> through good works, people have been asked to donate 67 minutes of their time, a minute for each year mandela gave to public service. it's produced some remarkable scenes, like these hardened prisoners fixing up a school. even someone serving a sentence for murder like this man find inspiration in mandela's life. >> he's a young man to me. i love him very mu

i have a gift for you, suzanne n the spirit of nelson mandela.ay coin, and special edition of what he is fondly known and your gift. it is not 67 minute, but it is 67 good thoughts. >> well, that is special. >> you can go to mandela day.com to see how you can contribute. >> tell me about his health and what he is like. i understand that you have spoken to his grandchildren. >> yes, i spoke to the grandchildren this morning and they were in his hometown of the transsky in south africa and they were going to have a family lunch. he is good spirits and reading the newspaper and joking and he knows the name of every grandchild. and there is zamiswaszi and there are so many names, but what is wonderful that they are all zs in the spirit of zulu royalty and he knows every single name of the 25 grandchildren and 9 great grandchildren. he is a man of tremendous public service. in his twilight years, he is asking to spend time with the family that suffered equally while he was in prison. and he sacrificed the family. and his face lights up. and six of his

most recently on nelson mandela's 94th birthday.frica has been the focus of much of bill clinton goes to work since leaving the white house in 2001, particularly the fight against hiv-aids. on monday, president clinton visited a health clinic in mozambique, partly funded by his clinton foundation. the work their offers one of the first early tests using technology that gives a judge be results in less than an hour. >> i want you to help us totally eliminate the transmission of hiv. >> clinton's health access initiative, which works across the continent, has also helped to reduce the cost of drugs by up to 90%. the clinton foundations ambitions extend beyond health care to climate change and removing barriers to economic development. mr. clinton cut the ribbon on a new library in a south african village. it is nelson mandela's ancestral village. on his birthday, it was not the former u.s. president who was the star of the show. >> you have just met nelson mandela and he is celebrating his 94th birthday. we do not often see him in pub

born since the historic 1994 elections that made nelson mandela president and put south africa on a newh after decades of apartheid. you all know mandela. what do you think of him? >> i think if it wasn't for him, a lot of us would my grandmother didn't have a chance to go to school. not be here. she doesn't know how to write. >> reporter: this year as the born free become adults, they're thinking more about mandela's dream of a rainbow nation with opportunity for all really exists. >> as much as things have changed, a lot of things haven't changed. >> there is still a lot of racial tension between people. >> i'm more optimistic. >> reporter: they attend one of the country's most respected universities. under apartheid, he would have been classified as black. alex, mixed race. michael, white. >> reporter: what is it like being a white south african these days? >> it has a few challenges. >> reporter: challenges like black affirmative action programs that can limit opportunities for whites. some 20 years later, south africa is a complicated society where race still determines a lot about

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i'm sure nelson mandela wants to go to bed. but either way, a happy day for everyone here in the mandela compound, as well as across south africa. he's a deeply loved figure. a fact that anybody can commemorate his legacy, i think is very special for many people here. >> what a great assignment for you. robyn, thank you so much. we mentioned the last time mandela appeared in public was in 2010 at the world cup in south africa. ♪ [ male announcer ] we believe small things can make a big difference. like how a little oil from here can be such a big thing in an old friend's life. purina one discovered that by blending enhanced botanical oils into our food, we can help brighten an old dog's mind so he's up to his old tricks. with this kind of thinking going into our food, imagine all the goodness that can come out of it. just one way we're making the world a better place... one pet at a time. vibrant maturity. from purina one smartblend. one pet at a time. homicide of young people in america has an impact on all of us. how can we sa

today, nelson mandela turns 94 and 12 million children across south africa how to kick off the party. in 1994, he became south africa's first black president after spending two decades in prison. >> a nation salutes its hero, the message is the same from black and white, old and young. >> i will send him a gift and a card. >> i will write that i always love him because he gave us freedom. >> nelson mandela is love at home and respected around the world. prime ministers and presidents have flocked to his side. >> he was moved by the way his birthday is being celebrated in south africa with the six or seven minutes of service by every citizen across the country. >> is symbolized public service. today, south africans volunteered for charitable duty. >> my grandfather has always in still in us that we should be a greater service to our people and the nation at large. >> they know apartheid only as history and today they celebrate the man who made that possible. >> reporting on national birthday celebration in south africa. that brings today's show to a close. remember, you can find consta

percent or more on car insurance. [ singing ] ♪ >> birthday wishes in south africa going out to nelson mandelaresident and anti-apartheid icon is turning 94 today. he became the country's first black president in 1994, four years after his release from prison. many south africans are honoring mandela in a special way, devoting at least 67 minutes to public service in commemoration of the years mandela devoted to helping others. >>> this is a picture of charlene smith with man kdelman. she's a journalist and wrote a book about him. welcome. hi. >> good morning. thank you, carol. >> give us a sense of nelson mandela, the person. you have talked to him many times. >> if you walk into a room, as an example, and there are lots of important people in there, nelson mandela comes in, he will ignore the most important people, the most famous people in the room and he'll head straight for the person who is maybe a humble cleaner in the corner who thinks nobody notices him or her. or he'll greet the security guards first. he has a wonderful way of making ordinary people feel special. in fact, it's not ju

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nelson mandela's 94th birthday was celebrated throughout south africa with parties and sing-alongs. the former president spent a quiet day with his family in his hometown, qunu. mandela is rarely ever seen in public these days. but mark phillips was given access to mandela and the party he attended today. he joins us now from qunu. mark, what did you see? >> well, it was an extremely rare event to be allowed in to see nelson mandela surrounded by his family he was for their large birthday lunch he was seated at a table with his current wife, to his left, interestingly, his former wife winnie was seated as well. the big question, of course, is what condition he is in. he seemed to be sitting quietly at the table, the conversation happening around him rather than with him. he seemed well enough for a man who was 94 years old. there was food in front of him, he didn't appear to have eaten any of it but he appeared to be in fairly robust condition from what we could tell by spending three or five minutes in the room with him. >> reporter: how did you manage to get a video camera in that

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a look at the festivities surrounding the special day. >> ♪ school assembly is different on nelson mandela'shome, they stood in lines forming the number 94 and they sang. happy birthday ♪ >> this may be international mandela day. but here in qunu it's a local event. this little town is the mandela ancestral home. they have an understandable connection to the man who came back to spend the end of his life in the place he grew up. but the idea is for virtually every school in the country to sing out greetings to mandela. the man is affectionate and -- tribal name. >> it's a happy day. around qunu, around everywhere. it's a good day. >> the idea is for people to do 67 minutes of community work, a minute for each year mandela devote today public service. here the school kids went into the village to read to residents. conveniently, today's reading was a book about mandela. it's a scene repeated all over the country, a new generation learning the mandela story. the story of their past. because of him, also the story of the promise of their future. the reverence for him goes far beyond south afric

. >>> nelson mandela turns 94 years old later this week.are celebrating with 67 minutes of community service. a very special birthday. >>> a man you're about to meet grew one big dreams for his hometown in south africa. when the dreams didn't come true, he took matters into his own hands to empower cliptown's future generation through education. meet this week's cnn hero. >> it's not changed. there is no electricity. people are living in sheds. growing up in kliptown makes you feel that you don't have control over your life. many children drop out of school because they don't have school uniforms and textbooks. i've realized that the only way that could change is through education. i'm helping educate the children so that we can change kliptown together. >> yes? >> c-a -- >> we help the children by paying for their school books, school uniform. our main focus is our tutoring program that we run four days a week. as young people are born and raised here, we know the challenges of this community. we also do a number of activity. -- activities

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and the nelson mandela foundation are asking people to devote 67 minutes of their time to help othershis is in reference to the number of years mandela devoted to serving the country of south africa. >>> participants in the wound warrior program psycheled to yankee stadium to meet players and they will be honored in a mom plate ceremony tonight. eight soldiers each of whom suffered life-threatening and life changing injuries will take part. today the president will welcome the 2012ncaa women's basketball champs the baylor bears at white house. he will congratulate them on the championship and historic 40-0 season hopping today. >>> oby the wary is one of the latest opportunities people have to hear about who you were in the life you -- be and the life you lead after you passe way. one man used it as more of a confessional telling people what they may not have known about him. maybe he wanted to keep it to himself. 59-year-old val patterson wrote an obituary before he died of throat cancer and began by confessing to a crime "as it turns out, i am the guy who stole the safe from the mot

. >>> and for his 94th birthday nelson mandela is asking for a small gift.spend 67 minutes serving others. the number represents the years he served south africa. >>> back in 2009 his birthday was designated as nelson mandela innational day. >>> aid bit of a hazy shot -- it's a bit of a hazy shot heading towards dundalk. the temperatures will continue to soar later today. 85 downtown. and 80 in d.c. cooler up at york at 74. heat indexes already raining between 84 and 86 and feels like it's 86 right now in salisbury. we have the excessive heat advisory from 11 this morning right until 9 this -- 9. the cold front picking up 7 hours away from the city limit. we will address the idea of scattered showers gusty thunderstorms developing later today. we will stop around lunchtime. storms firing central pennsylvania and up to 90 on the way to 100. here's the line pushing to the south and east. it will be coming through sokeep an eye on the western skies. hot and humid and lay day showers and thunderstorms and that's what's lingers with the temperatures down to 75. y

. >>> nelson mandela turned 94 years old yesterday. a private family celebration was held at the home of the former south african president and nobel peace prize winner. mandela has spent 27 years in prison after being convicted of sabotage under south africa's apartheid regime. he was released in 1990 and became south africa's president in 1994 during bill clinton's administration. clinton visited mandela on tuesday. >> i saw in him something that i try not to lose in myself which is no matter how much responsibility he had, he remembered he was a person first. and then i learned a lot about living from him, about living with adversity, living with setbacks, living with disappointments and living without anger. >> in 2009 the united nations designated his birthday july 18 as nelson mandela international day. happy birthday to him. >> indeed. >>> michael phelps says the upcoming olympics will be his last but first he has to face off against a u.s. rival. >> we have the olympic duo in knoxville. >> reporter: michael fell:s is back in th

>> reporter: well, it was an extremely rare event to be allowed in to see nelson mandela surrounded by his family he was for their large birthday lunch he was seated at a table with his current wife, to his left, interestingly, his former wife winnie was seated as well. inglbig question, of course, is what condition he is in. be seemed to be sitting quietly at the table, the conversation happening around him rather than with him. he seemed well enough for a man who was 94 years old. there was food in front of him, ut didn't appear to have eaten yny of it but he appeared to be in fairly robust condition from what we could tell by spending three or five minutes in the haom with him. w reporter: how did you manage to get a video camera in that room? >> we were working on the eandela compound talking to various members of the family today and the occasion of his 94th birthday and at one point ery of the grandchildren said "do you want to come in and film im having lunch with the family?" we said "okay." and went in and it was a very privileged moment to do so. >> pelley: mandela at 94. mar

. >>> also nelson mandela's 94th birthday. we'll hear from former president clinton who just visited with the icon in a cnn exclusive. that's coming up. >>> first, zoraidzoraida, the b story affecting so much of the country, the weather and the devastating drought conditions that have turned half of the u.s. into a disaster zone. the department of agriculture is declaring natural disasters in 1,000 counties across 26 states. blistering temperatures are making conditions even worse. across the midwest temperatures have topped more than 100 degrees. and heat advisories are reaching up into the mid-atlantic regions. the bone dry conditions have completely destroyed vast stretches of farmland. especially hurting corn, soybean plants. one analyst is estimating 75% of the corn crop at the heart of the drought stricken region has been completely wiped out. this is already having disastrous effects on the entire country. corn prices have surged 45%. and they're expected to jump even higher. that means the price of everything from food

finally, tonight, south africa's first black president, nelson mandela turns 94 next wednesday, fourut of five south africans depend on the public health system he championed, but access remains vastly unequal between blacks and whites and as michelle miller reports from south africa, a very special train is now helping to bridge the gap. >> reporter: it is called phelophepa, a nine, and nine months a year it cuts through south africa's country decide delivering low cost medical care to the rural poor. hundreds camp out for days for a place in line, for them it is worth every uncomfortable moment to see a doctor. >> last night i was sleeping here. last night i was here. >> thelma ngongoshe needs refills on her diabetes and arthritis medication. she would rather spend the night here than wait for months to be seen at a public hospital. >> they give you medicine. >> on average, phelophepa treats 1,500 patients a week. >> onke mazibuko manages the operation which is managed by the national railway in part. >> the train was given, called the train of hope and miracles and i think that sa

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nelson mandela is almost never seen in public now but our mark phillips was invited to his party as mandelad 94 today. 11 years after 9/11 some u.s. flight schools still don't check the backgrounds of foreign students. bob orr has our story. and taking on a mountain without his legs. spencer west's incredible journey to the top and the message he brought back. >> here's the path. you can overcome it ux too. captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news" with scott pelley.

one of the most admired men in the world, nelson mandela is celebrating his 94th birthday and receivingll over the world. president obama has praised him as having abiding humility and unbreakable will. former president clinton actually flew to south africa to kickoff the festivities in mandela's home village. she spoke with clinton and the mandela family, huge celebration is happening. can you share all of the details? >> we're inside the mandela family compound, mandela is inside that building now. i hear from his grandchildren that he had a late breakfast and enjoying his 94th birthday. i had the privilege of seeing him yesterday. he was eating lunch with president bill clinton and chelsea who flew in from the occasion. he looked well, put on some weight. he had some health scares in the past year but he looked healthier than earlier on in the year the two go way back as you say. i had an opportunity to chat with president clinton and this is what he had to say. what has mandela meant to you personally? >> personally he's been a wonderful friend to me. when we were working together,

. >>> 6:14, nelson mandela is celebrating a birthday today he's 94-years-old and he company to help markthe occasion. former president clinton visited mandela yesterday at his home south africa. this photo shows the former president with mandel the former south african leader is increasingly frail and no longer appears in public. officials say mr. clinton's visit lasted an hour and a half. >>> we are learning about a bomb threat at at a detroit stadium, 34,000 fans packed in to watch the angels face off against the tigers. now the it is learned that someone tpoefrpb ed in a bomb threat during the game. -- there was no announcement about the threat and fans were not evacuated. nothing was found there was the phony bomb threat in detroit in recent days. >>> :16 we saw the sun coming up and the clouds. >>> clouds making late push, lower clouds and mid level clouds starting to move in, marine layer trying to reestablish after that low that came close to bringing showers yesterday, brought drizzle. what we are keeling with now, live doppler, low clouds and the fact that never creating flight

time for today's trivia: nelson mandela celebrates his 94th birthday today.h country was he born? a) mali b) tanzania c) south africa the an time for sports: fest's the cubs and marlins game took a back- seat to the chicago reunion of ozzie guillen carlos zambrano and mark buerhle. but guillen was the only one who made it on the field. the fans booed him during a pitching change. the cubs already down 1-0 in the fourth... and travis wood gives up a 2-run home run to omar infante... his eighth. same score next inning, with the bases loaded and no outs... newly acquired carlos lee hits his 17th career grand slam. wood gives up eight earned runs in his first loss in a month. 9-5 the final, as the cubs snap their 6- game home winning streak. ron santo enters the baseball hall of fame this weekend, but wgn's coverage starts tonight on the nine o'clock news. dan roan will be in cooperstown until sunday night, for our hall of fame special "celebrating santo: ron goes into the hall." you can see it sunday night at 9:30 on wgn and wgn america. phil humber pitched six

because in the eloquent words of nelson mandela, overcoming poverty is an act of justice. it is the protection of a fundamental human right. the right to dignity and a decent life. poverty, he said, is man made, and it can be overcome by the acts of human beings. now, the low-wage workers, they come to us in circumstances that are among the most precarious, and yet the most fixable of all poverty related conditions. what they require is a decent wage, health care, disability accommodations, and relief from discrimination and financial exploitation. some of our clients are particularly vulnerable to poverty because they don't fit precisely in the categories of people the law protects. so, for example, when a woman is fired from her job, not because of gnder or race but because she's a victim of stalking and domestic violence and then is subsequently denied her unemployment benefits, we ensure that those benefits are restored and her income is protected. still, other victims of poverty fall into that vulnerability because of a health crisis such as the woman who was fired li

. >>> nelson mandela turned 94 years old today. children across south africa sang happy birthday to him. former president bill clinton is also in south africa. he took part in a movement asking people all over the world to perform 67 hours of volunteer work -- 67 minutes of volunteer work. >>> a week after they were chased out by the robbers fire, they can return home. cooler weather helped control the fire. the fire burned 2600 acres and destroyed one home. >>> new funding for the san jose airport could provide a economic boost for the south bay. the airport is getting $7 million for runway improvements. it could attract more travelers. this is part of the fifth phase of the $55 million project improvement project. many people are pleased with the progress. >> improving it will help business too. >> oakland has a lot of great airlines. >> airport improvements will be important when the patten office is open attracting more business. >>> low clouds and fog burning off sooner today compared to yesterday when it stuck around most of

. >>> today is nelson mandela's 94th birthday. a private celebration was held at his home. mandela spent 27 years in prison after being convicted of sabotage under south africa's apartheid regime. he was released in 1990 and became south african president in '94 during president bill clinton's administration. mr. clinton got a chance to visit with his old and close friend on the eve of his birthday. >> i saw in him something that i tried not to lose in myself, which is no matter how much responsibility he had, he remembered he was a person first. then i learned a lot about living from him, about living with adversity, living with setbacks, living with disappointments and living without anger. >> in 2009 the united nations designated his birthday july 18th nelson mandela international day. >>> a new study is offering hope to people with egg allergies. someday you could get over them and enjoy an omelet. >> we're looking at severe weather now east of town. we'll show you live doppler 9000. the entire metro area is under a severe thunderstorm watch until 9 p.m., but you folks

and today is nelson mandela international day. this is the former south african president's 94th birthday and the mandela day campaign asks individuals across the globe to spend 67 minutes supporting a charity, serving the community. that's 67 years of public service for nelson mandela. surrounding suburbs where he needs to win big to have a chance at a second term. philadelphia mayor michael nutter will be here. plus buckeye blitz. romney campaign is blanketing ohio today. we'll be there live. and george w. bush says he's not crawling back into the, quote, swamp of politics. what does that mean for mitt romney? you're watching "the daily rundown." take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ in every way, shape, and form. it's my dream vehicle. on a day to day basis, i am not using gas. my round trip is approximately 40 miles to work. head on home, stop at the grocery store, whatever else that i need to do -- still don't ha

. >>> and former south african president nelson mandela turns 94 years old. >>> all day long you can stay on top of the very latest developments in those stories and more as they break on msnbc. and tonight be sure to watch brian williams with "nbc nightly news." >>> and, finally, here's a look at what's coming up later this morning on the "today" show. in a "today" exclusive, a teacher charged with sexually abusing an underage student speaks out for the first time. >>> and olympic swimmer, natalie coughlin, opens up about her chances of winning her 12th medal in london. >>> now keep it on this channel for continuing local news, weather, sports, and more. i'm lynn berry. thanks for watching "early today," just your first stop of the day, today on your nbc station. the day, today on your nbc station. have a good one. >>> good morning. i'm bob redell. we'll take you live to san francisco with why this morning's uc board of regents meeting is generating so much interest among the undead. that story, coming up. >>> i could hear the crackling of the trees, and i still hear it in my mind.