so the next day i went to see nelson rockefeller. it shows you something about the mind-set at that time. and nelson rockefeller said has it ever occurred to you that richard nixon is taking a much bigger risk on you than you are taking on him? and that was true. and a newly elected president would appoint in one of the principle jobs of the government somebody whom he had never met and who had public ly supported his opponent is an enormous tribute to the way richard nixon thought about foreign policy. that he focused on what the right thing to do was. and then we worked closely together. the credit for that really goes to richard nixon, not to me. and i just wanted to make that point. [ applause ] >> i just want to do a mike check for myself. is everyone okay? raise your hand if you're having any trouble hearing. a little bit. >> how can you raise your hand to that question if you can't hear? [ laughter ] >> well, if you would like, we can have additional microphones. but since you're all doing such a good job of not hearing as it

that kissinger was far more closely identified with nelson rockefeller than with nixon. he repeatedly criticized nixon throughout the 1950's and 1960's. when nixon reached out to him in 1960, kissinger went to great lengths to avoid even meeting him. he claimed he had a pressing engagement in japan. if you want to avoid someone that's really want to avoid them, that is what you have to say. -- if you want to avoid someone -- really want to avoid them, that is what you have to say. they only met for the first time in december of 1967 at a cocktail party. i think it is this occasion that supplies parts of the answer to my whodunit. there is one answer to the question of why nixon picked kissinger that i is -- that i am fond of, but it is not true. it comes from one of henry's longest-serving phd students. "henry was the only thing of nelson that nixon could afford." [laughter] you must admit, that is a good line. but no, it was not that. they met, and you know that nixon is not a socially grateful man. the young henry kissinger was not particularly a debt either. -- notd b

he drafted a statement for nelson rockefeller, whom he was advising, which was never used. but it's worth quoting from. " no american can take pride that our government should have been associated with events leading to the assassination of two leaders with whom we were formerly allied." again, take a breath. this is henry kissinger. " i do not like our country to be thought of in terms of the cynical use of power. our strength is principle, not manipulative. our historical role has been to identify ourselves with the ideals and deepest hopes of mankind. if we lose this asset, temporary successes will be meaningless." well, i would say i rest my case, except my case is lying there, nearly 1,000 pages of it, with a good deal more supporting evidence. but i hope at least i've made you take seriously that, at least in this early period, in the first half of his life roughly, kissinger was no realist. if i had time and wasn't losing the attention of at least one gentleman on the front row -- you all got up too early. this is the biggest problem in washington, d.c. everybody is

there was nelson rockefeller in new york, for starters, and george romney in michigan.talk of reagan. but nixon had a lock on the delegates. >> we are a nation in crisis. right now, change rules america. it's time for america to rule change. it is my privilege to place a nomination, the man for 1968, the honorable richard m. nixon. [ cheers and applause ] >> there are 30 votes in wisconsin. and this should be put him across. >> richard m. nixon. [ applause ] >> sit down, get to work. [ laughter ] >> it looks like nixon. nobody is really surprised. and no committed republican feels cheated. what was the fuss all about? >> the republicans understand that nixon, in this time of tumultuousness, he gives people the sense of continuity. >> what is most important now is for us to think how we can get this war ended. >> mr. nixon talks of an honorable peace, but says nothing about how he would attain it. >> at this point, the war is continuing at as hot a pace as it has ever been. more troops are being killed every week than at any time in the course of the war. >> we knew that

the closest comparison is nelson rockefeller.he newest laws to deal with this sort of thing came after he served as vice president in 1978 which has a whole bunch of conflict of interest rules for everybody in the executive branch except for the president and vice president where they said it could prevent them from making hard decisions they have to make. there are very few conflict of interest rules that apply to him and anything he does in terms of trying to distance himself from his businesses will be of his own volition. carol: up next, will donald trump really try to build the wall? >> will he continue to deny climate change? ♪ oliver: welcome back. carol: you can also listen to us on radio on sirius channel 119. in the bay area. oliver: in london as well and in asia. carol: in the election section, what donald trump says about immigration reform. josh: what donald trump can do through executive authority even with congress. immigration is an area where the president of the united states has the most authority to act alone.

nelson rockefeller. mayor bloomberg in new york had to put his businesses in a family trust. private trust, a blind trust. >> talk to me about that. >> it's an option. donald trump talked about it being run by his kids. the idea of a blind trust is you are blind to what's going on. there as to be a reasonable expectation you are not involved in the decision making of the companies and it doesn't influence policy making. that's hard to do in a close knit family. how do you say when we get together we don't talk about business decisions? it's complicated. i think we have to -- we don't have a lot of details about donald trump's finances. that's part of the issue. >> thank you very much. fair point considering we don't have donald trump's tax returns but he said he would release them after the irs audit is over. coming up, new questions about the president-elect's relationship with russia as the spokesman for vladimir putin says russian experts did get in touch with some members of trump's staff during the campaign. we'll talk about what it means and why it matters, especially a

his vp nelson rockefeller use it only for entertaining. the first vice-president to livo in the home was walter monday dale. since then vice president bush,, cheyney and now the by dense. when they appointed me they said house a home.ome. this blue, which we refer to as biden blue is similar to whatt they have at their home inin delaware. a rotating art collection wasas selected by the bidenss with his help. photos throughout the home showe the warmth of the tight it in biden family and that feeling is something al expand row says it's something they try to weav in the home.e. it's from the heart and theyand love utilizing this house. batch is a perfect example.xamp people relax and let their hair down. water activities and slides and we have vendors doing face painting. do you come up with all of those ideas. >> sure. that's a great aspect of my role here as social secretary for the bidens is working with them and trying to accomplish what it is that's important to them. this night is in honor of you. like doctor biden's annual breast can

the whole idea of a moderate republican from the northeast, like bill scranton, nelson rockefeller, christine -- >> todd whitman? >> there was this long pattern of well-to-do, in many cases, republican moderates in that part of the country, and they're gone. and that's why the burbs are gone. >> our last break before the top of the hour. polls closing. if anything happens, we'll break out. >>> just under four minutes till the next poll closing at 11:00 eastern, top of the hour, we'll have poll closings in california, oregon, washington, idaho and hawaii. at this point, this is the part of the race where everybody who looks back at having covered previous presidential races say ooh, yeah, by the time we call hawaii, it's not like we didn't know what's going to be happening, we have no idea what's going to be happening. right now at this point of all the swing states that you could possibly be watching, the only ones that are decided are virginia for hillary clinton, colorado for hillary clinton, new mexico for hillary clinton. donald trump winning ohio. those are the projections in terms of nb

nelson rockefeller, he's a rockefeller. he'll say, how you feeling, nice to see you?and that ability to just connect like joe biden does really well. i think hillary does it in a back room situation, but out in the stand, not so much. >> i think you were trying to simplify it a little bit. bill clinton is just more fluid. he's able to get into all of these different realms and connect with you. whether it's with the bubbas of the south or the mccomb county people, that he studied so heavily in 1992, trying to figure out why those democrats existed. he figured out how to connect with them. and the other aspect is the world has changed since then and the democratic party has changed. and some of the issues that bill clinton used to connect with them, hillary wasn't -- there's no way she could have done that on gay marriage or so many other issues. >> or welfare. >> you know, there's a great scene i talked about on "snl" a couple of weeks ago where they had tom hanks playing a big trump guy, playing "black jeopardy" which was a joke. and keenan morgan kept saying, you're

wasr, my first campaign 1964, i worked for nelson rockefeller. that is my background.ast majority of americans are very upset about it. it is a little late. so we are going to have probably a one term president. today's revelations, if you will, does that hide or do away with the clinton foundation or lackdonald trump's total of preparedness for the job? i don't think so. i think we will get a new president tomorrow, and he or she will be there for four years, and we will get on with it. the only thing that is concerning to the vast majority of thinking people, i think, is the supreme court, because when you're appointed to the supreme court, you last a long time, not four years, so that is a big problem. we have been moving us a country a little bit to the left for ,ecades, since roosevelt really and what a clinton white house is going to do is probably move us a little faster in that direction. the trump phenomena, you know, who knows? servinguth, self showmen -- >> is it about the manner the movement? >> that is a good question, the heart of it. backgroundsanders al

robert ken dirks nelson rockefeller, george mcgovern, hubert humry, jimmy carter, ronald reagan, george h.w. bush, michael dukakis, and bill clinton all stopped by at a model convention as they campaigned ahead of oregon's presidential primaries. . but former students know that his -- he also connected with and motivated his students in smaller, quieter ways as well. his psychology, philosophy and current affairs courses were legendary at the high school where he spent most of his career. he challenged them to think critically. he encouraged them to consider new perspectives on information they consume. and as a teacher he saw potential in every student. with his dry wit, his deep knowledge and genuine enthusiasm for his subject matter, mr. bar low created a learning -- mr. barlow created a learning atmosphere where everyone felt and everyone was welcomed and valuable. there was mg that helped with the welcoming -- there was something that helped with the welcoming, doughnuts. long before doughnuts were a craze in portland, mr. barlow students in to his the starlight room. there was no

we can fix nelson rockefeller's 50-year-old mistake. that by amending federal law and i propose just that. you would be one member of a whole host of a conference. how would you convince those folks to do that? it would be fairly unpopular. if you look at all the burden of medicaid, $9 billion is spent, $7.5 billion is spent by new york state. when people say their property taxes are so much higher here in new york state, that's one of the reasons. but my opponents approach is wrongheaded. she doesn't know what she's talking about when it comes to property taxes. maybe that's because she just moved into the district and has never paid property taxes. the bottom line is the circuit says she supported does not hold the line on local spending and the localities, the town or village or school district can override the tax cap. so that local control is maintained. burdenor: it is a high as far as their ability to override the cap. she want not only does to raise the property tax by limiting the cap, she wants new energy taxes on heating oil,

guest: the closest we have is nelson rockefeller, the newest laws to deal with this came after he servedst rules for everybody in the executive branch except for the president and vice president, who have decided rules like that could prevent them from making the hard decisions that commanders in chief have to make. rarely, if any, concerts of interest that apply to him. anything he does in terms of trying to decisions himself -- to distance himself from his business will be of his own solution. david: hear more from the magazine's reporters and editors every saturday and sunday on bloomberg television. vonnie: coming up on bloomberg markets, sean matthews with his on -- and the fed postelection. this bloomberg. ♪ vonnie: it is 2:00 p.m. in new york. i am scarlet fu. and i am julie hyman. welcome to "bloomberg markets." ♪ scarlet: we are live in bloomberg world headquarters for the next hour. here is what we're watching. stocks bouncing around today after the s&p 500 posted their best week since 2014. bonds extend their selloff. pushing treasury yields to their highest in more than a yea

he had been the advisor of nelson a rockefeller, one of nixon's arch rivals for the republican nominationetely unexpected that a rockefeller loyalist should get the job. peopletrump can choose who opposed you and criticized you during the campaign. you certainly should or your bench is not going to be deep enough to staff a really high quality administration. can invite them. they have to be on board. they have to want to serve you as president. that's right. richard nixon's reputation in 1968 wasn't exactly a golden one. he was well known as tricky dickie. rockefeller said he's the president of the united states. you can't really refused to serve. i think a lot of people who have criticized trump during the campaign. i was one of them. they will now say he is the president-elect and we all our loyalty to the president elect because the constitution has been followed to the letter. now we need to work with him before whatever our bombs. that was rockefeller's advice to kissinger niall: the president-elect is here. screamere was a primal about the ascent of money and the ascent of the 7%,

he had been a nelson rockefeller guy.meone who opposed you in the primary. >> still ahead in "morning joe," crisis in korea as kim jong-un develops his nuclear weapon. the president of south korea is embroiled in a scandal that may cause her theophorous. we'll talk about a moment of crisis for a key u.s. ally and our interests in asia. >> first, breaking overnight, whipped winds sent wildfires into the tourist towns of gatlinburg and pigeon forge. thousands were forces to evacuate, and even dollywood, the theme park belonging to dolly parton, had to evacuate guests staying on the property as fires approached. bill karins with a look at the wildfires raging out of control. >> we're starting to hear and see pictures of what the damage was like, and it looks really bad. over 100 structures look like they have been burnt and are a complete loss, and there's mixed reports from what the downtown looks like. they say many of the buildings in downtown gatlinburg have been burned overnight. this is new video from michael who lives