>> i think actually that's rather unfair to neville chamberlain, sean.central question of the 1930's wrong but he was an honorable man who believed he was acting in the interests of his country and the british empire which he loved. when churchill became prime minister he kept chamberlain on and had him chair the war cabinet in his absence. churchill wept over neville chamberlain's funeral casket and claimed he was an honorable man who just happened to be wrong. i don't think you can say that about obama. i think what obama did is significantly worse than what neville chamberlain did. i don't think obama was negotiating on behalf of the united states. i think what happened at these talks is that he and the iranians were in a sense negotiating together to anoint iran as the regional power in the middle east and to facilitate iran's reentry, the biggest planetary sponsor of terrorism, to facilitate its reentry into the global community. that's what obama was there doing. >> in the last century, mark, we lost 100 million souls. if you look at more mass murd

>> he's the neville chamberlain of our time. >> neville chamberlain? >> i think it is one of the biggest foreign policy mistakes i've seen in my lifetime. i think it rivals neville chamberlain's negotiations with hitler. >> some have compared it to neville chamberlain's munich accord with nazi germany but that doesn't fully demonstrate the danger. >> joining me is the professor of middle east policy studies and president of woodrow wilson school joined former ambassador to israel in signing a letter to congress in support of the iran deal. mr. bodyambassador, your reaction to mike buckhuckabee's comments and the touch stone of people arguing the iran of today is like the hitler of the late 1930s. >> well it's an outrageous comment and sad commentary about the nature of our politics. there are serious issues to be debated here. for anyone to equate what the president is doing to what adolf hitler did in world war ii is extraordinary. in some ways it's a form of incitement. we've seen results of that. 20 years ago in israel there was the same incitement

what obama did is significantly worse than what neville chamberlain did.'t think obama was negotiating on behalf of the united states. i think what happened at these talks is that he and the iranians were in a sense negotiating together to anoint iran as the regional power in the middle east and to facilitate iran's reentry, the biggest planetary sponsor of terrorism, to facilitate its reentry into the global community. that's what obama was there doing. >> in the last century, mark we lost 100 million souls. if you look at more mass murder, america defeating terrorism and communism and fascism and naziism and tojo's japan. look at man's inhumanity to man in world war 2. this president seems incapable of recognizing evil. these are people who are fighting a proxy war. sworn to the destruction of the israel and the united states and the president makes the deal. what is the missing chip? >> well i think that's the other difference between obama and chamberlain. the horrors of the -- what germany did were not known to neville chamber ln. in a sense the appea

i think it rivals neville chamberlain's discussions with hitler. >> that doesn't fully illustrate the danger. >> joining me now former u.s. ambassador to israel, professor of middle east policy studies daniel kurtzer. signing onto a letter to congress in support of the iran deal. mr. ambassador, your reaction both to mike huckabee's explicit comments but to the broader comparison that's now become a routine touchstone in people arguing against the deal that essentially the iran of today is like the hitler of late 1930. >> well, it's an outrageous comment. a very sad commentary about the nature of our politics. there are serious issues to be debated here. but for anybody to equate what the president is doing to what hitler did in world war ii is extraordinary. in some says it's a form of incitement. we have seen results of that. 20 years ago in israel there was the same kind of incitement against rabin. that led to a tragic outcome. i hope people stand back and understand mr. huckabee has crossed a serious line here. every republican candidate should stand up, condemn this and ask him

to neville chamberlain. probably quoted more often by republican colleagues than most former british leaders. fact of the matter is this. this is the same rhetoric used against ronald reagan when he sat down with the soviet union and decided he would negotiate to reduce the number of nuclear arms in the world. they said he was appeasing, a suicide pact. the harshest criticism from the right. same thing was true when richard nixon said let's open up relationship with red china. there were critics who said what is he doing? these are the people inspiring and funding the killers of american soldiers in vietnam. that they condemned him for it. it is a reality that if you are going to have a meaningful negotiation you will be sitting across the table from usually an enemy. some one you don't ordinarily do business with. here you are trying to strike balance, agreement, negotiation. in this case with iran to stop the development of a nuclear weapon. >> is the democratic leadership in the senate going to whip this

neville chamberlain? we have a pair of aces and a pair of 2s and we're letting them dictate terms.are hurting with these sanctions. that's why they're coming to the table. we are coming to them because our president wants a legacy issue in his second term. we're thinking a bad deal is better than no deal. that is wrong. >> suzy, more talk more trouble? >> i agree with gary, a punch in the chose. on top of that we're negotiating alongside china and russia who want to sell arms to iran. it's crazy. go back to sanctions. >> jonas. >> it's been working since 1979. they can't even get a real american flag to burn because you can't buy stuff in the country. it's like cuba. it doesn't lead to anything except black markets. let businesses build, let them do trade, then punish them with a high tariff if things aren't going the way we want. the sanction creates a black economy and makes the people hate america more. they blame their problem and troubles cutting them off from goods and services. a fairer system is what you do with a normal country like china where you have tariffs. >> gary b.

. >> he is the neville chamberlain of our time. >> really?vior because this deal doesn't require them to do a damn thing in terms of changing their behavior. at the passage at the end of 15 years, all inspections are lifted and here is this bet. i don't think he is a bad man. i think he misunderstands the world in the middle east. at the end of 15 years they can get a nuclear weapon with no strings attached. he thinks they are going to change over the next 15 years for the better. look at the last thousand years and you'll get a good idea of what they are going to do in the next 15 years. he is dangerously naive. he called the isil a j.v. team and drew a line against assad and assad crossed it and nothing happened. i think his foreign policies in a shamble and the continuation of a man who don't understand the middle east. >> when the baby boomers retire we will wipe out medicare and social security and all of the taxes paid will go to medicare and medicaid and interest on the debt. >> senator lindsey graham good to have you here at the table

don't take seriously the threats of iran, then god help us all because the last time -- it's neville chamberlain all over again. three times i've been to auschwitz. when i talked about the oven door i have stood at that oven door. i know exactly what it looks like. 1.1 million people killed. for 6,000 years, jews have been chased and hunted and kills all over this earth and when someone in a government says we're going to kill them, i think, by gosh we better take that seriously. and for the president to act like there are only two options, either take his deal or have a war, we didn't get the hostages out, they didn't stop this rhetoric about wanting to wipe israel out or death to america, i thought you're kidding. this is it? this is the best deal? why can't we criticize it? >> but governor the point is you went a step -- i love you. you would be a great president. you have the temperance. you have the experience. but as a jew -- and i have to tell you with people who work in the anti-defamation league and relatives on both sides, it was inappropriate. there are some places you cannot go. you

neville chamberlain? >> this is worst deal since the munich deal of 1938. >> when our negotiators return with a promise of peace in our time, we should believe it no more now than we should have believed it then. >> they have a limited copy book of history that they copy and report. it is always munich. that's why we went to vietnam, by the way. munich. if we don't to go vietnam and stay there. munich. >> it seem like this proimary is one trumpsmanship. they're only coming at this from a part santa viewpoint. a plipt viewpoint. >> you mean had he decided ahead of time before they read it? >> i doubt many candidates have had time on read this entire deal. >> i've saved the best for you. the inimitable bachmann who was created on this program, by the way, she weigh in the on this deal by comparing president obama to the co-pilot who downed the passenger plane this spring, killing hundreds. she wrote on her facebook page the following. with this iran deal, barack obama is for the 300 million souls of the uni

huckabee doubled down on his message with a vine today featuring the poster boy for appeasement neville chamberlain>> the response from jewish people has been overwhelmingly positive. the response from holocaust survivors, from the children of holocaust survivors. i was last night in an event. i was probably one of four gentiles in the entire event. it was a jewish event. people were overwhelmingly supportive. >> but the response from fellow candidates has been much less supportive. yesterday in florida jeb bush had this to say. >> i think we need to tone down the rhetoric for sure. look i've been to israel not as many times as mike huckabee who i respect. but the use of that kind of language in -- is just wrong. this is not the way we're going to win elections and that is now how we're going to solve problems. >> last night in chicago governor scott walker says he takes the same approach with huckabee as with trump. >> much like mr. trump w huckabee and anybody else. i'm going let them speak for themselves. i'm going to tell you what i'm for. i don't use language that. i'm against the iran deal be

think back to 1938 the munich agreement when neville chamberlain we are all at peace now he would approvethey shouldn't be doing it. >> what would you do? would you you hold the status quo? how would you you reshape the military to deal with the recurring and growing threat? >> there are ways to cut can the budget without cutting the troops. there is a lot of wasteful spending in the pentagon. like i said. >> billions. >> yeah. billions. >> it's horrifying. >> right. >> and why do you think there is no appetite to do that? they may -- everybody knows that that incredible waste over there. >> it's almost mind blowing. you have got to figure, too with cutting the troops because we are getting rid of 45,000 soldiers, 17,000 civilian employees. it's not just they are saving money on salaries. think about the troops had you no longer have a job. you can't afford your mortgage, your wife, your 2.5 kids it's all out there. there needs to be some sort of internal investigation as to how to cut some of these programs that we don't need. >> one other thing that this budget cut is not supposed to to

we talk about neville chamberlain.e can all hearken back to leaders in american believing or leaders in the western world believing that they can negotiate with a tyrant. i have not seen the at a statement from former secretary clinton and i am anxious to see that. i think that a number of the folks who are running for president now have made clear that where they to become president, they would take a very different approach, not only to iran and the middle east but also to this deal in particular. i hope that former secretary clinton will also come out against this deal. if she will do that, we have a good chance to overturn this. host: one more call. this is collin in virginia. caller: good morning. i was wondering, there has been software developed that has been used to destroy iranian nuclear centrifuges. we are not sure who developed it. we are pretty sure it was a country of some kind. are you or is anybody in congress actively worried about whether or not this software could be turned to be used against america

carlos says, ask them if they remember who neville chamberlain was and his policy toward nazi germany. giving in to iran has a similar overtone to what chamberlain and the world did back then. adam says, 24 days' notice, no prisoners coming home, no inspection of their most lucrative site and china and russian can sell them weapons? the american public wants some candid answers. tomorrow, mr. kerry will testify before the foreign affairs committee. time for some frank no double talk answers from the administration on this iranian deal. and that's just the way it is. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from minnesota seek recognition? without objection the gentleman from minnesota is recognized for one minute. >> one out of four child abductions in the united states are not committed by a stranger but instead are perpetrated by a relative. mr. paulsen: law enforcement can't access critical information. we owe it to these children to give law enforcement the tools they need in order to find the more than 00,000 children kid napped by family members every year he

being likened to nevill chamberlain. sound familiar? the conservative national review magazine in may of 1987 had a cover with the title "reagan's suicide pact." president reagan eventually agreed but then secretary of state schultz -- with then- secretary of state schultz that arms control would and improve national security. in december of 1987, reagan and gorbachev signed the intermediate-range nuclear forces treaty of, comightd the two super-- committing the two superpowers to eliminate all our conventional and ground-launched comistles with ranges of -- missiles with ranges of 50 to 500 meters. this was the first on-site negotiations for verification. do you know who coined the phrase "trust but verify"? it was op ronald reagan in his negotiations with the soviet union. it took five months after this agreement was reached for this chamber to vote 93-5 in favor of that treaty at a time when the democrats had a majority. i could go through the long list of democratic senators who supported president ronald reagan in his efforts to tr

peter, the idea of a lot of people saying forget about the north korean deal, this goes back to neville chamberlain. is that being hyperbolic or honest and sober ultimately what this leads to the world? >> i think people have the right to be concerned about that. back in 1938 people didn't look soberly at the threat that was there in nazi germany. i also think about what are the north koreans thinking about this? will they come and look for a similar sort of deal and also do provocative things to get us to the come to the table because of what iran has got and number of concessions they have gotten. we don't know what the future holds. based on past behavior, based on past behavior there is good reason to be concerned. charles: bob? >> this will spark a nuclear arms race because saudi arabia, bahrain, qatar and israel need to amp up their programs in order to counter this sure path that we have put in front of iran. i think president obama may well go down as the anti-nuclear proliferation president. >> let me ask you guys this. let me ask charles this. if we think iran gets everything it wants wil

with neville chamberlain or today with isis. >> why do people not believe that there's real e ?ril why won't people believe that there is evil in the world? why don't they want to believe there's evil? >> well, you see the one thing that i cannot change people. i'm trying to talk to young people, because when i came to this country the first job i had, i met a lot of our jewish workers. there were dead man because roosevelt had died, they were saying the jewish prayer for him. and they were already -- [inaudible] so i don't know, first i have to find out but when i saw the jewish paper, i could do it. so i take the paper at night, and i read about what they're reading. and i came back. that's when we started fight. i said you're born in this country, you've got a good job. why are you unhappy? and that how i changed some of them, the theories and the ideas. but it was in a very small way, because they were ashamed of i'm a kid came from holocaust a refugee knows more than they do. i don't know nothing but i didn't like what was written there in yiddish because i understood every

with neville chamberlain or today with isis. >> whoa do people not believe there is real evil? why won't people believe there is evil in the world? >> why don't they want to believe there's evil? >> well, you see the one thing that i cannot tell people, i'm trying to talk to young people because when i came to this country, the first job i had i met a lot of workers and for a dead man because roosevelt had died they were saying the jewish praying for him and they were already communists papers. so i don't know, first have to find out -- a jewish paper so i could read it. the paper at night. saw what they're reading and i came back, that's win we started fights. i said, you have a good job why you unhappy? and that is how i changed some of the ideas but it was a very small way because they were ashamed of -- my kids came from a refugee. i don't know nothing but i -- what was written there in yiddish because i understood every word. so if any one of us communicate, sometimes you change somebody's mind, but it's very difficult because there are many people who go in a direction, t

is quite frankly our biggest foreign-policy mistake in my lifetime, and i think it rivals neville chamberlain's negotiations with hitler. >> if the president's argument is, it is this deal or war, but your assessment is, at this deal actually does is protects their nuclear infrastructure, allows them to become a stronger nuclear breakout state pours times of money into the regime and makes them more dangerous you argue the best course of action would be for the united states not to participate in the vienna action and that would allow the next president more freedom? rep. mccaul: the only thing in the realm of possibility is to make it veto-proof. i think chuck schumer is a key player in this, in the senate, and we are working very hard to make this a bipartisan opposition to the president's policies. the more the american people here about this deal as they chant "death to america," they are celebrating on the streets of tehran as they changed in the streets. i think that speaks volumes, and if we cannot accomplish that, then i think the only thing left is the next president. and i think that

believer that the reason that the holocaust happened was because so many people naively believe neville chamberlain's ridiculous statement that we're going to bring peace in our time. we ended up seeing 11 million people murdered, six of whom were jews who marched to the ovens i stood in front of. >> in about a week, there's going to be the first debate on the republican side. based on polling numbers you'll be on the stage along with the front-runner donald trump. do you think it's time for you and other republicans to stop treating him as some kind of a side show and start treating him as a real candidate and ask him his views, his policies and his vision for the future of the country. >> i never treated him as a side show. anyone who has $10 billion is a player in an election because he can afford to make things happen. you know, he's striking a nerve with a lot of people. my job is not to react to donald trump. my gosh, he's getting all the attention he needs without my help. my job is to focus on what i stand for, talk about how to get jobs back in this country, talk about how to keep america sa

believer that the reason that the holocaust happened was because so many people naively belong neville chamberlain's ridiculous statement that we'll bring peace in our time and we saw 11 million people murdered 6 of whom in an oven i stood in front of. >> there are polling numbers that say you will be on the stage along with the front runner donald trump. do you think it's time for you and other republicans to stop treating him as a side show and start treating him as a real candidate and ask him his views, policies and his vision for the future of the country? >> i have never treated him as a side show. anybody with $10 billion is a player in an election because he can afford to make things happen. you know he's striking a nerve with people. my job isn't to react to donald trump. he's getting all the attention he needs without my help. my job is to focus on what i stand for, talk about how to get jobs back in this country, talk about how to keep america safe and how to return to our basic moral conscience as a country. those are the issues i will be focusing on. i will swim in my lane and let donal

neville chamberlain tried to give peace a chance. thank you so much host: thanks for all your calls and comments. more tomorrow at 7:00 a.m. eastern. we will hear more from the president about the iranian nuclear deal. he is holding a news conference tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. eastern at the white house. we will have that live for you on our companion network c-span3. the story broke overnight in vienna and was announced to the reporters there by the eu foreign policy chief and the foreign minister of iran. here's a look. >> it is a great honor for us to announce that we have reached an agreement. with courage, political will, and leadership, we believe it is what the world was hoping for -- a shared commitment to peace, to join hands in order to make our world safer. this is an historic day, also because we are creating the conditions for building trust opening a new chapter in our relationship. these achievements are the result of a collective effort. no one ever thought it would be easy. historic decisions never are. but despite all tw

. >> you also write supporting this deal doesn't make you neville chamberlain.ove. both sides have legitimate arguments. you come down on the side that the deal is the best way forward. why? >> i really believe that for two main reasons, it does if implemented, and i think backed up with muscular diplomacy, does take iran puts iran a year away from a nuclear breakout for the next 15 years, really. and in a crazy region if you can keep nuclear weapons off the table for the next 15 years by a key actor like iran i think that's a plus. it comes at the price of strengthening iran's economy and enabling them to continue to project power throughout the region. we're going to have to deal with that, but that's one reason joe. the second reason is i just don't see a clear alternative from the critics. and believe me i'm listening. my ears are open that would give us a superior outcome. >> yeah i want to -- let's talk about your first reason why. you supported the deal but also, some of the effect of iran getting a deal with the united states. you talk about the increase

it is not too late to prevent a legacy of appeasement and avoid being remembered as a new neville chamberlain, establishing nuclear weapons across the middle east. in conclusion, god bless our troops. may the president by his actions never forget september 11 and the global war on terrorism. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from south carolina yields back the balance of his time. for what purpose does the gentleman from texas seek recognition? without objection. the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. hinojosa: mr. speaker, i rise in strong opposition to h.r. 5, a misguided bill which denies america's children access to high quality education. today greater numbers of economically disadvantaged children are entering public schools. for example, in my state of texas i have five million students enrolled in public schools in 2014 statewide, more than three million would be adversely impacted if we vote to pass h.r. 5. this republican bill abandons the federal government's historic commitment to educating disadvantaged populations. h.r. 5 block grants vital federal programs such as

some have compared it to neville chamberlain's munich accord with nazi germany. that doesn't fully illustrate the danger n this case we are talking about a rogue state with all of nazi germany's again sidal intentions. this one will be armed -- genocidal intentions. but this one will be armed with nuclear intentions. the agleement asserts that iran will comply with the nuclear nonproliferation treaty it signed long ago. wait a second. if it obeyed this treaty we wouldn't be having this discussion to begin with now would we? the fact is iran has a well established and consistent record of routinely violating international law. its intention to acquire nuclear weapons is obvious. the immediate effect of the president's action is to release hundreds of billions of dollars of direct and indirect resources to iran with which its government can pursue its military and terrorist activities activities that aren't even addressed in this agreement. it's sobering to consider that iran's extensive terrorist operations, which reportedly now reach into south america, are about