and has steered his base to other networks that leans further to the right 24 hour news channels newsmax and one american news and. uses in the times. when conspiracy theories about the election or crack science on covert 90 make their way from social media and the dark corners of the web into the mainstream outlets like newsmax and. often their 1st ports of call it's sort of like trying all the time it's just all it is in trouble great closest thing here with a left on your line an american from the battle of liars i mean there are. really obvious conspiracy theories stuff like that that we never really make it on the air at fox a lot of these what american news shows sort of look like the stage is about to fall down and they're going to get to the wire and so they're about to replace fox but i do think that fox concern about you know losing 10 to 20 percent of their audience if you watch newsmax one. it's kind of cringe worthy year that saw marxists and black lives matter and burning. feeling their way through american history he saw those clips and look i think that's that's a little

it is also fox feeling pressure from newsmax, pressure from the right like you see there.ying that fox is on the run. rupert murdoch is reasserting himself at fox and that in part explains why the schedule at fox is blowing upstarting tomorrow 7:00 p.m. anchor martha mccallum has been demoted to the 3:00 p.m. hour. she was holding one of the other hours of news coverage in a prominent position at fox news. her news coverage leaned dramatically to the right, but it still counted as news according to fox news. now that program is losing its 7:00 p.m. time slot. let's talk about this, the cable news landscape and more with a panel of experts. nicole is here, the author of "messengers of the right." david is here and eugene daniels is here, white house reporter and coauthor of "play book." nicole, what do you think of this change. others hosting the 7:00 p.m. hour from now on. >> i think it is a pretty clear sign that fox news sees newsmax as its big problem right now. their 7:00 p.m. hour has been drawing a lot of viewers. so they want to do is compete more in that opinion sp

bill o'reilly, former fox news, with the headline on newsmax, saying storming of the capitol earlier this month destroyed from's legacy. here is president trump. [video clip] >> i know your pain. i know you are hurt. we had an election that was stolen from us. it was a landslide election and everyone knows it, especially the other side, but you have to go home now. we have to have peace. we have to have law and order. we have to have respect to our great people in law and order. we do not want anybody her. it is a tough period of time. there has never been a time like this where such a thing happened, where they could take it away from all of us. this was a fraudulent election, but we can't play into the hands of these people. we have to have peace. so go home. we love you. you are very special. you have seen what happens. you see the way others are treated that are so bad and so people. i know how you feel. but go home, and go home in peace. host: president trump january 6, the afternoon of the breach on capitol hill. two your thoughts. susan in milford, pennsylvania, democratic cal

more than 300 times on newsmax. you know, post insurrection, a book publisher decided it does not want to be in business with senator josh hawley, so he's been on a national tv tour saying he's muzzled. and tucker carlson is telling viewers that this network, cnn, is trying to force fox news off the air, which is patently false. it is predictable as the sunrise. democrats win elections and republicans say they are being silenced. while some cry cancel culture, let me suggest a different way to think about this, a harm reduction model. most people want clean air and blue skies and accurate news and rational news. in that healthy environment that looks beautiful, then we can have fights about taxes and regulation and health care and all the rest. disinformation about, let's say, the pandemic is unhealthy. it's harmful. how can that harm be reduced? big tech platforms say they are removing lies about vaccines and stamping out stop the steel b.s. and qanon content. do these private companies have too much power? many pe

and then we have to figure out the oann and newsmax problem that these companies have freedom of speech but i'm not sure we need them to be brought into tens of millions of homes. this is allowing people to seek out information if they want to but not pushing it into their faces is really where we're going to have to go here. >> alex and chris, thank you

later definitely so that was former cia analyst ray mcgovern author and senior editor at the real newsmax blumenthal and eric author and human rights lawyer thank you very much for joining us everyone that's it for this hour for more on your world news stories make sure to check out our website r.t. dot com and follow us on twitter i'll be back with more in just about half an hour i hope to see you then. join me every thursday on the alex simon chill and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics small business i'm show business i'll see you. i got this 8 millimeter film purely by accident. time period 963 to 65 place damascus. don't don't know why young. i've watched it many times a man posing the monuments and all poster of the hollywood premiere of town without pity and a fight in a mock so with bruises. i had my doubts if i should waste my time on this but i came back to that film over and over again tracing a sequence of events happening in syria at that time and most of those who worked there alone would agree. going to continue going out which will signal neil curiosity is

news.m turned against fox i watch newsmax. what is wrong with this country.ost: all right, that's a call from roberta in new york. "the new york times" again, "barely 11 months after president trump was acquitted in a momentous senate trial, the nation confronts the possibility of yet another impeachment battle in the twilight of his presidency, a final showdown that will test the boundaries of politics, accountability, and the constitution -- host: we have jay calling from madison, wisconsin. caller: this is j. i watched, sir. houseyour thoughts on the potential action hear this caller: there's a lot to respond to so far. 16, 17, 18, 19 minutes, you could look at it as 25, 20 six minutes, something close to those lines. i appreciate and i think a lot of people on earth, including the united states of america, should appreciate how u.s. this segment off, these 20 minutes off. we need to take this back. we need to learn how to think here. , you wentetter through two quick. that sentence that you read, sir . what is she trying to say? all due respect to the spe

we'll have to figure out the oann and newsmax problem.nies have freedom of speech but i'm not sure we need verizon, at&t, comcast and such bringing them into tens of millions of homes. elizabeth: so he also talked about bringing people into quote the same consensual reality, it is really hard, people are able to seek out information that they like, that makes them feel good. what do you say to his comments there? >> well i think that, you know, for years on this network i have said that big tech is a bigger threat to america and her values in the here and now and immediate future than china. you would be hard-pressed to find a bigger china hawk than me. america was founded on exchange of ideas and free expression. free expression and competition is what makes us better. it is better to have opinions out there duking it out for the hearts and minds of people so we can make america a better place. right now what you're hearing from big tech, corporate media, they're more concerned with the bottom line and making more money than they are uph

lie has been spread by sean hannity and rush limbaugh and laura ingraham and fox news and oan and newsmax. but the last component they needed to lift this autocratic movement off the ground, to do the violence that they did, it needed the lift of the cynical elites, josh hawley, stanford university, taught at oxford, yale law school. ted cruz, harvard law school. the people that the country has afforded every conceivable privilege to, who turned against and betrayed it. and so we have to fight back against this. a lot of these members on the republican side say now we need unity. there will be no unity with seditionists. the only thing we offer them is the chance for them to apologize and retire from public life. that's the only thing we can do. only two ways to bring -- to win a fight, nicolle, to bring your opponent to defeat through submission, or they get you through exhaustion. we can't become exhausted in this fight. there is only one way to win. and so corporate america is doing its part. we have dozens and dozens of companies have said we'll never fund these people again. we will

time when retractions at such a significant level have been made by major media outlets -- fox news, newsmax, the american thinker, they'll fall been forced to take a look at the statements and retract it for fear of litigation. do you think that itself will be self-correcting moving forward? michael: well, i do think having --removing impunity from people who deliberately make up nonsense and propagate it is helpful. there should be accountability. if these news media are not able to demonstrate a good-faith basis to report what they did, they ought to own up to that fact and retract it or they ought to pay a price. elliot: speaking of paying a price, in terms of the process of the insurrection and the fbi resting numerous people--resting numerous people involved, there has been some debate within the justice department about whether to charge people recently -- they may not have been violent but they may have been trespassing and a sense -- in a sense. what are your thoughts on that -- never been in a place like this in our history, but in terms of the disinformation campaign that led to t

i mean fox news, newsmax, the american thinker, they have all been forced i think, to take a look at the statements and retracted for fear of litigation. do you think that in itself will potentially be self-correcting moving forward? >> well i do think having you know removing impunity from people who deliberately make up nonsense and propagate it is helpful. there should be accountability. and if these news medium are not able to demonstrate a good faith-based account of what they did then had to own up to what they didn't retract it or they have to pay the price. >> knowing that paying the price and terms of the processing of the insurrection andof the fbi arresting numerous people involved in its there has been some debate debate within the justice department about whether to charge people that simply may not have been violent but they simply may have been trespassing in a sense. what are your thoughts on that you have never obviously had a case like this in our history but in terms of the disinformation campaign that led to this to what degree do you think that people should be h

on inauguration day and it seems possible that their candidate wasn't actually elected only in a newsmax represented closer connection to get to the base and they're going to make different editorial decisions and if these divisions persist they're going to persist underneath a thick stack of conspiracy theories and propaganda. having people with that sort of will view. as part of the main street with discourses deeply deeply disturbing i think they need to be marginalized and study i don't want to spend the next 4 years sitting around talking to people and just quoting whatever nonsense they do want to spend a good chunk of the next 4 years to talk to them and finding out how they got so disconnected from reality obviously this is a huge victory for these protesters they have disrupted the system in an enormous way. and media have to take seriously that these people will try again that it's not over and that returning to normal will not make it be over we have to shine up the clear spotlight on these ideas and not see them only as outliers but trace the connections between the ideas of

there's a company called newsmax and it's a it's a competitor to to fox c.n.n. what are basically having people who say that they're keep all cable subscriptions cable providers should cut them because here's the best part all right right wing. neal a snake of knowing that you have to come up with a good label that people are saying. i won't say no more and that's it new ways to shut everything down don't fall under usually prescribed avenues of jurisdiction in jeopardy i mean the line brings up a really good point there because when the cover story is i would call it is that you know these other platforms promote hate speech if it's a place for. neo nazis or fascists or something like that but if we look at the case of parlor i mean you know that was just getting rid of your competition ok because the it was obviously understood that with trump being thrown off of twitter he would migrate to another platform with his $80000000.00 followers and essentially that was what was going to happen and then they say well you know because they're promoting hate speech wit

you almost have to believe that newsmax,watch oann, all of that propaganda you would runninge mccarthy are the show from the grave. every other sentence out of the mouth is the left, liberals, liberalism, liberal agenda, socialist, communist. convincedt millions that market force has taken over our government. running unregulated and having theet-based solutions is absolute remedy of this evil encroachment. propagandist and conspiracy theorists that want to make you think everybody is a commie, everywhere. angryave million so fighting for their freedoms. propagandists are the infringement. on fox, every other sentence is liberal, left, liberal this. --re has been no public take public takeover of the private sector. the marketeers have taken over schools, jails, prisons, mercenaries. there has been a private corporate takeover. our commonwealth has been privatized. a great diversion tactic. they have millions convinced their freedoms are being infringed upon if we don't give the marketeers absolutely everything. you look at a trump rally and you see how angry their mob is and how they

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see very similar things going on even on cable news now they're trying to get one american news and newsmax thrown off of cable t.v. networks here so all of this is part of a concerted effort to consolidate media such that we have a you know party state apparatus that is presenting a singular viewpoint and nothing else let's just pick up on that point from like oh do you think the tech giants are perhaps just trying to protect themselves on this stage anticipating antitrust action from the incoming democrats who are going to control congress. well i think that big tel for a long time now has absolutely been acting like a cartel we see coronated efforts being taken by amazon and google to take down for example parlor which was a main competitor to twitter and when we see them now kind of circling over other apps like telegram and now even mines which is another competitor to facebook and youtube you know they'll claim things like oh it's about safety it's about trying to take down violent threats i think that is absolutely i'm sorry but bullcrap i mean don't forget that on platforms like fac

these issues and more i'm joined by my guest and a caucus in greenville she is a newsmax insider as well as contributor to the washington examiner and in toronto we have arthur who wrote he is editor at large and being libertarian dot com all right cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in in time you want and i always appreciate it ok let's go ahead and greenville in my introduction to ask the question what does it mean to be a conservative today in your mind what does it mean to be a conservative and let's keep in mind the tron presidency and the recent general election go ahead well in my mind it means to be conservative what has always meant that we are working to conserve the classical liberal values our country was founded upon but i think there's a role fracture with an conservatism these days i think trump has increased that fracture i think it was a system before he actually came into office but it has become deeper and more visible and i think that there are a lot of conservatives who want to move that movement into the action that he was mostly focusing on which ha

organization with potential libel if they didn't do that so we saw one american news network and also newsmax come out and make definitive statements that they recognize joe biden as the winner of the race that doesn't mean that we don't have a fraction or a fraction of journalists and hosts out there that continue to promulgated these notions that there was large scale fraud election by dead people votes cross state votes by canadians votes by martians and i used the word martians quoting rudy giuliani so in that particular case and those conspiracy theories about doll trump actually winning this race but having it stolen from him continue to circulate around the president and he is chasing anyone who will make those those kinds of claims out loud but i think that you're right that there's been a split you can feel the air i mean i tweeted something this morning you can feel the air simultaneously coming out of the president's tires in the white house as he no longer controls all of the republican party he just lost a significant vote where his vote was overridden by joint chambers of the ho

we need the networks or the, you know, the edge fringe networks like newsmax and oan, they need to denounce they will also be held accountable for this in courts of law. and ultimately the president. the president has, if he cares about this country, if he cares about democracy, he will do what's right and he will announce and accept his defeat. >> let me ask you this because you already are hearing the folks who had been given the disinformation, some whom you mentioned there. well, it's, you are trying to silence a certain group of people, conservatives. this is censorship, so on. and i ask you that because your new firm is all about stopping cybersecurity threats. this disinformation cesspool is now so vast that people are trying to blame riots on antifa, some far-right social media users think that trump's video statement yesterday is a deep fake. how long will we be dealing with the consequences of this, chris? >> so this specifically, it's a great question, and frankly, i don't know. i think there are immediate steps that can be taken that i ticked off to ensure that there is no furth

there is that whole right wing ecosystem of trump supporting media, the oans, the newsmaxs and certainly new administration, but this problem is going to stay. and i do fear that those few qanon supporter, followers that we're seeing who realize they have been duped and might see the light, they may be just the minority. >> wow. donie, chloe, always fascinating to talk to both of you. thank you so much. >> thanks. >> thanks for watching, everyone. our coverage continues. not until i'm sure. why don't you call td ameritrade for a strategy gut check? what's that? you run it by an expert, you talk about the risk and potential profit and loss. could've used that before i hired my interior decorator. voila! maybe a couple throw pillows would help. get a strategy gut check from our trade desk. ♪ it's time for sleep number's january sale on the sleep number 360 smart bed. you can adjust your comfort on both sides... your sleep number setting. can it help me fall asleep faster? yes, by gently warming your feet. but, can it help keep me asleep? absolutely, it intelligently senses your movements a

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oann and newsmax might. we are seeing care and caution on the part of the media and technology platforms to make sure these platforms at cnn and twitter are not used to cause further insurrection. >> you have been remarkable and so important in the field speaking for months with people that have been voicing what we saw happen on wednesday at the capitol. this morning, people are waking up to parler being gone. it's a really big deal that not only was it taken off platforms like apple and google, the amazon services it runs on, basically, it's heart, said, no, we are not going to support to you work anymore. where does that mop go? >> that's right. what we saw on wednesday was basically, it was the physical manifestation of the online mob. >> yeah. >> facebook, youtube, twitter, they are bad at moderation and stopping misinformation, those do still have some rules. i think now we're going to face a new challenge in this country in that the mob has to go somewhere. they will start going to social media platfo

listen to how stars on fox and newsmax have been describing the a new administration. >> i wish joe biden no success. >> biden's hallow calls for unity are laughable and completely disingenuous. >> you thought you voted for a moderate. you got a radical. here we go. >> the weak, the frail, the cognitively struggling biden is attempting to ram his party's radical socialist agenda down the country's throats. >> a foreignforeigner's first a >> what self-indull dent goof balls they are. >> you said it, laura. did you catch how hannity described biden there? he's weak. he's frail, but he's also ramming things down your throat. and i want to be clear. that is a 24/7 narrative on multiple channels. these channels are more anti-democrat than they are trump. and the biden bashing has been turned up to 11 and 12 and 13. so has the media bashing by the way. take a look at fox's errors. a huge member of the national news media pretending it is not a member of the media at all, saying it is there to praise biden. he's the media's messiah. every hour, every day that's the narrative and it will be like

in the past year or two, bannon has returned to going on his podcast, on newsmax, attacking anthony fauci, and he's been one of the chief people who has said falsely that the president won the election, when other folks were not doing it. he's also known bannon for a long time. early in the presidency, one of the reasons that bannon had so much power in the white house was because of his relationship with the president on the campaign. obviously that soured and turned into an ignominious firing, but he's come back into his good graces in recent months. >> let's go to carol, also of "the washington post." who are you watching out for? >> i think josh gave a great summary. steve bannon looks like he's pretty much a done deal, although we haven't confirmed it at the moment. and lawyers for bannon and broidy say they're confident they'll get pardons, and also, the flip-flop on shel silver. and the idea that the president held his nose about silver because he was accused of corruption. that hasn't been an issue for the president. he said he wanted to get rid of the foreign corrupt practices ac

caller: newsmax. not even fox anymore. and your channel. why don't you ever put a program on about how they are always defacing the republicans? you always go on about how everything is bad against the democrats and what they are doing. why are all you referencing the new york times and the washington post? i do not think you are very fair. host: we have read from the washington times and newsmax this morning, the huffington post, a liberal website. we try to show you what all people are reading, especially decision-makers in washington, d.c. not an endorsement of these newspapers, but show you what other people are reading. the huffington post, as we showed you, their headline -- trump's legacy -- two impeachments, lies, and corruption. they write "the president promised he would negotiate nafta to benefit workers. instead, it was renamed the usmca, that remains nearly identical with the exception of small tweaks lifted directly from tpp, another trade pact trump pulled out of and called the worst deal ever. he went along with a plan from