from the right, newt gingrich. from the left, howard dean. >>> a raisial controversy once again ensnares the white house. we'll talk about race and politics with the reverend jesse jackson. also the bush tack cuts for the wealthy. we will ask our sunday regulars whether letting taxes rise is the right thing to do. and our power play of the week. oprah's chef teaches inner city kids how to take care of themselves. all right now on "fox news sunday." hello again from fox news in washington. with the mid term campaign intensifying we asked two brig thinkers to discuss it. from vermont, howard dean. former governor and chair of the democratic party and here in studio, former house speaker nude gingrich. welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> good to be with you. >> chris: let's start with the case of shirley sherrod who was forced to resign because the obama administration mistakenly thought that she made racial comments. you said this. >> i often disagree with this administration but firing her after that kind of vicio

is newt gingrich on to something here? >> let's talk about the issues. >> schieffer: what would you think. >> i'd like to talk about the issues. as there is with me and david, there should be no racism... no debate about racism. that should just be done, and the rest of them should follow suit. >> schieffer: mr. webb... >> let's talk about issues. >> schieffer: would you be interested in holding joint meetings? joint forums around the country with the naacp to talk about some things that you might have in common? >> absolutely. as a matter of fact, we've not own... we're not only interested in doing this, we were ahead of this before... before the naacp story broke, and i broke it on my show at sirius xm, took it to the people. we had already planned an event july 31 in philadelphia. that will be on independence mall, called unity. that event is to speak to the black community and the minority communities. i'll take it a step further, bob. three men are in a pivotal and powerful position on race relations in this nation. p

barack obama, john mccain, and newt gingrich are not using the word. >> is there any other country in the world that would let, pick your number, 11 million, 12 million people who are not documented go into their country? >> yes. >> there are? >> the united nations recently published a report of 35 million, and we have only 11 million of them. probably, the percentage of immigrants in this country are foreign-born, it would be about 14% at this point, so, yes, we are talking about 35 million immigrants. >> i want to get to how you are thinking. i have heard them, americans here are very much in favor of people from outside of here or certainly people from mexico or anywhere, hispanic, but what they really do not like is the fact that they are not here with documents. i mean, is it possible, because this thing gets so emotional, that people have a legitimate reason for not wanting people here that are not documented? >> i understand, and i think we can all agree that the immigration system is broken. we can all agree that nobody wants or likes undocumented immigration, not even undocum

. >> president barack obama, john mccain, newt gingrich they've stopped using word illegal immigrants. would you change that now? >> i don't see the point. i don't see the point. >> you don't' the argument. >> please listen to me. >> the argument is your calling them illegal but - you want to have a conversation. >> i'm giving you the argument. >> but i want to talk to george ram os. i don't need a mouth piece for other points. i bring you mine i can't recollects bring me yours. >> look. ya'll calling them illegals but you don't call the american company that have hired them illegal company? >> i have said all the long the illegal employer the central issue in the entire mess. i call them illegal. i call them illegal employers and i taken to establishment. i'm not rolling over to play games here. i'm taking on the power structure. for what? you're trying what? >> what was that? >> he had left cnn, and we were doing these interview for our sunday morning talk show. what's so interesting is that - i think there's a double standard when you recall illegals and undocumented immigrants and

newt gingrich weighs in on unemployment, decision 2012, and much more. >>> plus, the very latest from beverly hills as lindsay lohan begins her three-month sentence. >>> and now keep it on this channel for continuing local news, weather, sports, and more. i'm lynn berry. thanks for watching "early today," just your first stop of the day, today on your nbc station. have a good one.

why they made you angry or sure if newt gingrich but why should i leave when people put a couple bombs. to the civilians being killed and to rule against those who. did talk to us. left he were the first terrorist group in the world to use car bombs but they would not. the last. verse the jews in the arabs. the world's first car bomb or. left a planted four. and thousand planted four hundred twenty people died. the car bombing only stopped in may one thousand nine hundred eight when war broke out and the checkpoints became frontlines. a new terror weapon cheap and convenient had been born. but palestine in one nine hundred forty eight did produce one further novelty. the car bomb as a key assassination weapon when i tried to blow up the jewish political leadership . what happened in this building here. here was the government of the jews and. in this second floor will heal was the chum belt of the song think of the state of the if you can go to ups one day. and say believe that if they would kill him jews may not establish that state the special east of the ups. explosion and the car.

and we should -- >> but let me ask you, in 1994, the year newt gingrich became speaker or the next year, rather, but the election when he became speaker and took over the house for republicans for the first time in 40 years, there was all this, there was the contract for america. there was all this anti-incumbent sentiment. and 90% of house incumbents in this sweep year were re-elected. >> right. >> how bad do you think, compared to '94, how bad are democratic losses going to be now in november. >> well, look, i don't have a crystal ball. i don't know if republicans are going to take the house or not. i don't think there's any doubt they are going to make some significant gains based on what we see today. and it's to the because there is more republican voters out there than there were just two years ago. when you look at the polling among independents, those who voted for obama and brought in a lot of other folks, that made nancy pelosi speaker, those are the people that are very unhappy. and so i think they were wrong to look at that if you are a democrat and say that doesn't matter.

so unpopular when the democrats are able to make newt gingrich. >> woodruff: demonize. >> that bob dole became almost paralyzed and had to withdraw as republican senate leader to distance himself from newt beginning rach-- gingrich. i don't think you can do that with john boehner. i think what we are talking about is ambition in the republican ranks. i think eric cantor's ambition is not very well clothed. i won't say it is naked but it is pretty well exposed but as mar as michael steel is concerned, michael steel has had a gas filled year. he had his young donor meeting at the lesbian bondage club in west l.a. you must remember, that caused a stir, and caused the finance chief to leave, chief of staff to leave, political consultant to leechlt he predicted the republicans wouldn't win the house in 2010. it hasn't been sure footing for michael. i don't anybody looks to the party chairs to make foreign defense policy statements. and if it weren't the fourth of july weekend i don't know if the resignation would be news to tell you the truth. >> woodruff: anything about michael steel. >> it

they don't want the ghosts of newt gingrich running this country and they don't want a return to the failed economic policies of president bush. they know that they want this government to help people when they need help and they know that -- they didn't lose their job because they did something wrong. greed on wall street got them. they are suffering because of that greed which we dealt with a couple of days ago. but they need a check to pay the rent and pay for food. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the chair will receive a message. the messenger: mr. speaker, a message from the senate. the secretary: mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: ms. secretary. the secretary: i have been directed by the senate to inform the house that the senate has agreed to h.j.res. 83, approving the renewal of import restrictions contained in the burmese freedom and democracy act of 2003 and for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from louisiana. mr. boustany: thank you, mr. speaker. just to briefly respon

newsweek -- "newsweek" and senior editor and former speaker newt gingrich. attended a party for bill press. his new release is "toxic talk," housley radical right -- how the radical right has poisoned america's airwaves. " british prime minister david cameron announced tuesday an independent inquiry into allegations of british involvement of the torture of terror suspects. he also announced the payments would be made to former terrorist suspects who served -- who suffered in the british civil courts. this is 50 minutes. >> statement, the prime minister. >> thank you, mr. speaker. i am sure the house will wish to join me in paying tribute to the royal marine who died on thursday, a soldier from the royal dragoon guards who died yesterday, and a soldier from the first battalion who died from wounds sustained in afghanistan in burlington -- in birmingham yesterday. and we should constantly remember the sacrifices made on our behalf by our armed forces and their families and keep them in our thoughts and prayers and thank them for what they do on our behalf. wit

they don't want the ghosts of newt gingrich running this country and they don't want a return to the failed economic policies of president bush. they know that they want this government to help people when they need help and they know that -- they didn't lose their job because they did something wrong. greed on wall street got them. they are suffering because of that greed which we dealt with a couple of days ago. but they need a check to pay the rent and pay for food. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the chair will receive a message. the messenger: mr. speaker, a message from the senate. the secretary: mr. speer. the speaker pro tempore: ms. secretary. the secretary: i have been directed by the senate to inform the house that the senate has agreed to h.j.res. 83, approving the renewal of import restrictions contained in the burmese freedom and democracy act of 2003 andor other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from louisiana. mr. boustany: thank you, mr. speaker. just to briefly respond to

and it steve will tell you that when i left the congress i asked newt gingrich to make sure that he supported and helped us get the 88th through congress and he committed to do so. -- get the ada through the congress and he committed to do so. he was involved in the cantor the republicans did not oppose us, but helped us and worked it all the way through. >> following up on that, i think it is important to note that the national council on disability had come up with a proposed legislation in 19806, i believe -- in 1986 i believe. then we kind of work on it, but the first bill that was introduced with that title was introduced by a whole weicker in 1988 [applause] he first introduced the bill and then i was one of the co- sponsors. fred also want to note that senator weicker also wanted to be here today on the panel, but he is attending an a.g.a. celebration in connecticut today. -- attending and ada celebration in connecticut today. i know she is probed to quiet and conservative to say anything, but i'm going to call on pat wright. my image of pat wright is having all of these different meet

and newt gingrich. i think if jeb bush -- for vp, that's an incredible ticket. it's very exciting. tell you. >> i still have goose bumps from his speech. >> -- the economy, it's like -- the economy's made of money, we spend it. >> larry: as an obama fan who do you fear? >> who do i fear? you know, i have to tell you, these are all interesting ideas. jeb bush is probably i think most terrifying. although i think americans don't want a dynastic presidential run. a third bush in office. so that would be the reason -- >> -- michigan and florida would have been -- >> i think one of the reasons why they didn't nominate is because they saw an option that was not a die panaftic choice. i also say our fair former half-run governor from alaska is an interesting choice. i would vote -- i would also vote -- >> she would vote for her? >> she and i are both comedians so yes. >> what i will say -- >> on behalf of comedians everywhere, yes. >> it's clear that sarah palin, that the presidency doesn't pay enough. >> larry: i'll give ben the last word. sarah palin. >> i'm not a huge fan of sarah pali

they don't want the ghosts of newt gingrich running this country and they don't want a return to the failed economic policies of president bush. they know that they want this government to help people when they need help and they know that -- they didn't lose their job because they did something wrong. greed on wall street got them. they are suffering because of that greed which we dealt with a couple of days ago. but they need a check to pay the rent and pay for food. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the chair will receive a message. the messenger: mr. speaker, a message from the senate. the secretary: mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: ms. secretary. the secretary: i have been directed by the senate to inform the house that the senate has agreed to h.j.res. 83, approving the renewal of import restrictions contained in the burmese freedom and democracy act of 2003 and for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from louisiana. mr. boustany: thank you, mr. speaker. just to briefly respon

member of the immigration subcommittee during that period when republicans were in charge under newt gingrich and under the subsequent speaker of the house. we could not move immigration reform, and we had the lowest unemployment that we could ever have. it bothers me now to use the excuse of unemployment for that. could i ask the crgy quickly to -- and if i could start with president land, what do we do about senator mccain and senator graham, who committed to us to work together in a bipartisan way? i don't think this should be a single-party issue. it should be an sue for america. and let me remind everyone that the idea of immigration reform is to take care of those who are stranded here in this country. president land, what should we do with that mind-set that no immigration reform will pass as long as i'm a republican in the united states congress? which i am not. >> well, i think congressman lee, my home -- you represent my hometown of houston, and -- >> good to see you. >> the texas pastors council just -- it had a press conference last week -- issued a statement on comprehensive immi

. >>> former republican speaker of the house newt gingrich a fox news contributor and author of "to save america stopping obama's secular socialist machine" good to see you. >> matt, good to see you. >> help me on the math what she just talked about and the president talked about yesterday. some republicans saying we're not in favor of extending unemployment benefits with a price tag of about $33 billion unless there are offsetting cuts in spending, the same republicans, newt, who didn't ask for those offsetting spending cuts when they wanted to make permanent the bush tax cuts with a price tag over half a trillion dollars. is it funny math? >> no, i don't think so. the second biggest concern of the american people after jobs is deficit spending and the fact this president has been like a teenager with a credit card who has run up, he will -- if he serves eight years under current plans he will double the national debt. that is he'll borrow more than every previous president combined. the average american is beginning to respond with great concern about that amount of debt. >> traditiona

newt gingrich on stopping obama's socialist machine.ailable in over 100 million homes, bringing you a direct link to public affairs, politics, history, and nonfiction books as a public service, created by america's cable companies. "road to the white house" continues-- "washington journal" continues. host: in this new book it says "we remain in thrall to a series of assumptions about american omnipotence that are not true and never were. what are those assumptions? guest: for america to be secure and prosperous in the world, we have to extend our dominance further and further. in the post cold war time, america's military footprints increase dramatically around the world. dick about where america was at the end of the cold war. we did not have military presence in eastern europe, very minute -- very little military ground presence in europe or central asia. american power spread much more widely. we need to remember that we were a relatively safe and prosperous country even before the spread of american military power. we don't believe

congressional races comparing had time to 1994 when president clinton was in office and compare to newt gingrichinning during that time. a and, two, is alabama even doing a congressional race at this time? if you could discuss that, i would appreciate it. host: who is your representative in congress, wes? caller: his name is mike rodgers. host: does he have a challenger or is he unopposed? caller: i'm not sure. guest: i don't think rogers has a super competitive race. every member is up i've two years. in the senate there are a dozen or so up but that rotates every year. there are different senators up for election. you compare had to 1994, 1994 was a big year. it was a takeover. the house switched from democrat to republican. that was a mid term election for president clinton. he took heavy losses. people always expect that the second year election after a president takes office that they lose seats. that is what happened historically. people expect that this year as well the occurrence. there could be enough in the house where the g.o.p. could take over but that is a long shot. it is probably

newt gingrich will go bust week with an idea to deal with america. -- look up last week with an idea.e suggested they reach out to local chapters of the civil rights group and propose a series of joint town hall-style meetings around the country. he could be on to something if he means all americans old enough to remember when cigarettes were harmless and strom thurmond was a democrat. the tea party and the naacp represent this proportionally older memberships. herein lies a problem with some much of our discussion about race and politics in the obama era. we will get back to a little more of that in a few seconds. first, more calls regarding how the president can rebound. nashville, tenn., on the line for democrats, go ahead. hunter? caller: i can't believe i got through. yes, sir. we just saw joe biden yesterday at the jackson dinner here in town. i believe that obama has a shot at coming back. first thing is have his bill as a governing based on fairness, honesty, opportunity. make it known he does not support greed or sloth -- either one of the extremes. the guy who says he is not

i don't think anybody in our party with the kind of idea machine that newt gingrich has, being able to adopt that and translate it to voters. is this election in 2012 comes down to a referendum on obama and a choice, he i think could be a very able spokesman. you see in this country when things go bad, people want mr. fix it. they don't want necessarily sunday school teacher or father of the year. they want somebody who knows how to solve problems and he did to that role. 2012 is a long way off, though. and people had bill clinton on the ropes in 1994 and he won with a larger margin. a long time over the next two years to see what happens. i just don't know obama will be as vulnerable as people say. time will tell. host: who is the leader of the gop right now? guest: there is no one leader. we are a party right now who is out of power with a lot of people trying out the voters will decide who the leader of the party is through the primary process in 2012. we are a broad camp right now and everybody is welcome to participate and it will be sorted out. host: independent caller from miram

thing i would say is that steve will tell you, it has become a little bit of a tidbit, i asked newt gingrich to make sure that he supported and helped us get it through the congress. he committed to do so, and he was involved in helping steve and making sure that the republicans did not oppose this, and he worked with us all the way through. those are tidbits of information that are good for us to know. >> following up on that, i think it is important to note that the national council on disability had come up with proposed legislation in 1986, i believe it was. and we kind of worked on it, but the first bill introduced with that title was introduced by a senator in 1988. [applause] he first introduced that bill and it was one of my co- sponsors. but he did not return after the 1988 election and i became the chief sponsor in the senate. he also wanted to be here on the panel, but he is attending an ada celebration in connecticut. he could not be here with us at this time. she is probably too quiet into reserved to say anything. but i will call on pat right. my image of pat wright is having a

welcoming the speaker of the house, newt gingrich and how ward dean. and then a look at race elections with jesse jackson. on face the nation, host talks about race in america, the vice chair on civil rights. and finally at 3:30 on cnn's state of the union, host talks about national security with former cia director. and then turning to host of america, and john mcwarner contribute be editor of new republic. wrapping up with president obama and the business community with the u.s. news and world report. five sunday network talk shows beginning at noon eastern, with meet the press, and fox news sunday, face the nation, and then at 3:30 eastern, cnn's state of the union. listen to them all on 90.1 fm in the washington area. or online at c-spanradio.org. >> can you tell us what it is, why you are here today? >> sure, secretary selius was here about three weeks ago and made a commitment to the gulf that she would come back and that we were blessed with local offices from atlanta to the gulf. we have local people on the town, and secretaries from d.c. are h

he negotiated a great budget deal in 1997 with the newt gingrich congress. they lowered capital gains tax and spending and helped business, and the economy grew nicely during clinton's second term. hope springs eternal. maybe we can get some good leadership. host: an investment banker that served during the first clinton administration has an editorial in "the new york times" that is called obama's business plan, and he shares concern about the relationships between business and the white house. after the u.s. exame enter of commerce complained that -- host: now, he says though, -- lg such fierce criticism, corporate america should remember the president's actual record and he says the business community should mak host: what does the business community need do to mend this relationship? guest: well, i don't know. roger is a smart guy. a smart guy. i have not read his article. but i thought the white house really miss that opportunity. they held their own mini jobs summit last week. and the chamber of commerce was criticizing them. so, this business-white ho

member of the immigration subcommittee during that period when republicans were in charge under newt gingricher the subsequent speaker of the house. we could not move immigration reform, and we had the lowest unemployment that we could ever have. it bothers me now to use the excuse of unemployment for that. could i ask the clergy quickly to -- and if i could start with president land, what do we do about senator mccain and senator graham, who committed to us to work together in a bipartisan way? i don't think this should be a single-party issue. it should be an issue for america. and let me remind everyone that the idea of immigration reform is to take care of those who are stranded here in this country. president land, what should we do with that mind-set that no immigration reform will pass as long as i'm a republican in the united states congress? which i am not. >> well, i think congressman lee, my home -- you represent my hometown of houston, and -- >> good to see you. >> the texas pastors council just -- it had a press conference last week -- issued a statement on comprehensive immigrat

member of the immigration subcomttee during that period when republicans were in charge under newt gingrich and under the subsequent speaker of the house. we could not move immigration reform, and we had the lowest unemployment that we could ever have. it bothers me now to use the excuse of unemployment for that. could i ask the clergy quickly to -- and if i could start with president land, what do we do about senator mccain and senator graham, who committed to us to work together in a bipartisan way? i don't think this should be a single-party issue. it should be an issue for america. and let me remind everyone that the idea of immigration reform is to take care of those who are stranded here in this country. president land, what should we do with that mind-set that no immigratn reform will pass as long as i'm a republican in the united states congress? which i am not. >> well, i think congressman lee, my home -- you represent my hometown of houston, and -- >> good to see you. >> the texas pastors council just -- it had a press conference last week -- issued a statement on comprehensive mi