this is a public service, running the nih.so incredibly exciting, exhilarating, working with amazing people. i recruited 22 out of the 27 into two directors that i'm confident will grow the place in an incredibly visionary way. i'm not worried about stepping away. with the acting director and the other folks, nh is in a great place -- nih is in a great place. >> what makes you optimistic, looking ahead? >> i'm optimistic about science finding answers to the problems that we are going to continue to face. we are on a roll. science is like moving at a pace that i didn't think possible during earlier parts of my career, making discoveries all the time. and discoveries that have profound consequences. look at what we are doing, caring people with stage iv cancer with immunotherapy, kids with sickle cell disease with gene therapy, so they are cured. things like that are exhilarating. that makes me optimistic. despite the terrible divisions in our society right now, the next generation is going to figure out how to fix it. >> dr. fr

today on face the nation, the head of the nih, dr. francis collins, said the greatest threat is to americans still not fully vaccinated and boosted, especially as millions head home for the holidays. >> if you are not vaccinated, i would say travel is really not a great idea 'cause you are in a very vulnerable place now with omicron. >> reporter: and that concern is for more than just people who are flying for the holiday. royal caribbean is now reporting 48 positive cases on one of its ships now docked in miami. jericka? >> marcy gonzales for us with the big picture on the covid crisis. thank you. >>> president biden will address the nation on tuesday about the threat posed by the latest covid wave. cbs's christina ruffini is at the white house where, today, though, the administration was reeling from a big hit to the president's agenda from a fellow democrat. christina? >> reporter: that's right, jericka. if you remember, back in november, progressive house democrats only agreed to support that bipartisan infrastructure bill because

we also delayed our plans at nih. we thought people would come back to the workplace in november and then it seemed we were not ready for that. because of delta. then we had people come back in january and we just delayed that again. it is unclear what the status will be. when people do come back, you want to make sure that you set up the appropriate ways. to maintain physical distancing and masking indoors. we are not going to be through this for many months to come. >> i would like to ask you about another bit of news i was covering yesterday. that was the cdc decision for a recommendation on the mrna vaccine. over the j&j vaccine. the question i have for you are the populations that were hard to reach that defended what originally a one-shot dose. do you worry about the homeless, people in prisons and the international impact this decision could have? >> yes, i do. j&j did have this advantage of being a single dose and did not require a lot of refrigeration. it is not the case for a lot of mrna vaccines. it seemed

we also delayed our plans at nih. we thought people would come back to the workplace in november and then it seemed we were not ready for that. then we had people come back in january and we just delayed that again. it is unclear what the status will be. when people do come back, you want to make sure that you set up the appropriate ways. we are not going to be through this for many months to come. >> i was covering the cdc decision for a recommendation on the mrna vaccine. for those who defended the one-shot dose, do you worry about the homeless, people in prisons and the international impact this decision could have? >> yes, i do. j&j had this dissident -- had the advantage of being a singer those and not requiring a lot of refrigeration. it seemed like it was ideally suited for hard-to-reach places. it should still have a role there but if you're in a circumstance where all of the things are lined up to be able to choose, it is clear that the mrna vaccines provide you a high level of protection. there is this rare

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>> 6 billion. >> what about nih? what is the budget there? >> between 42 and 43 billion. >> if i do the quick math that is like 57 billion, $58 billion annually, right? >> annual. >> and you know how many people work at cdc? >> cdc and nih together about 30,000 people. >> 30,000. what about if i add in niaid? what was the number? >> that's right. 31,000 people between cdc and nih. >> 31,000 people spending $58 billion a year. why hasn't our government done a study on natural immunity? >> if i can be honest, representative jordan, i don't think they want to know the answer. it would undermine the indiscriminate vaccine -- vaccination policy for every single human being including extremely low risk people. >> so how many americans have got covid since we've had this virus, do you know sf. >> north of half of americans based on the columbia university study that showed 1 in 3 had covid at the end of last year, a year ago. >> so there is certainly a sufficient sample size to do a study and 57 to $58 billion, i mean some of that money to do a stud

you're the top dog at the nih. what's the deal? >> well, it's not an nih study.h researchers, and let's be clear. it's not a study that i think ought to make anybody run out and decide that gargling with mouth wash is going to help them if they're infected with covid-19. these researchers basically showed that mouth wash could reduce the viral load in your saliva, in your spit, to a moderate degree, but it wasn't terribly impressive. it was statistically significant, but i think clinically meaningless. keep in mind, you have virus not just in your saliva. you have in your nose, your throat, your lungs. there was no data in the paper that suggested this reduced the symptoms of the people who were sick, nor did it reduce their ability to make other people around them sick by transmitting it. so i would not say that this is the kind of science that ought to recommend people changing their behavior. if you want to take care of yourself, get vaccinated, get boosted. if you get sick and you're in a high risk position, talk to your doctor, get a monoclonic antibody. >>

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he was tested may 11 and the nih never funded wuhan research, it might've been in an exchange with you know from the nih itself and the 900 documents from "the intercept" we know from fauci's own emails that he knew well that data function research was being done at the wuhan virology lab in his nih was funding it. >> realized to this day he hasn't taken any of it back and hasn't learned any lessons. to this day, he still supports the research, and still supports throughout the united states. a virus could escape a lab that has 50% mortality. he has been in favor of viruses that have 50% mortality. the current virus wreaking havoc has 1% mortality. can you imagine if a virus escaped from a lab, he's a danger for mankind because he doesn't want to place any new limits on this function research. he went on his website and change the definition, they took the words gain of function off of his website, off of the nih website, he still trying to obscure any situation for his funding for this type of research. the funding goes on. this could be done again. >> even if it resulted in a worldwi

former director of the nih says we can't prove it came from a lab.straction. watch. >> i'm really sorry lab leak has come such a distraction for so many people because we still don't know, there's no evidence really to say most of the scientific community, myself included think it's a possibility but far more likely it's a natural way in which a virus left, maybe travel to other reduce got to humans. we don't know in less china decides to open up which they have not done and shame on them for the. kennedy: that's funny because in october the nih was accused of being involved with gain of function research and claims doctor anthony fauci try to down play lab leak theories and the involvement of u.s. government funding so is he full of garbage? is he hiding something? the party panel is back. stephen, the evidence we have which is scant because china won't let us see anything and they destroyed so much of the helpful evidence but there are a lot of clues that lead to an accidental lab leak. >> the two most prominent people still pushing the fact that t

fauci nih.sight of brutal monkey abuse funded by fauci's nih. it costs american taxpayer $100-million since 2027. the south carolina congresswoman sent a letter to dr. fauci requesting information about this disturbing testing. she joins me now with justin good man. great to have you both on the program. congresswoman, you recently took a trip to morgan island. tell me what you learned about what is going on at monkey island. >> well, for decades now, folks in south carolina, we knew about morgan island and nicknamed it monkey island. we were told this was a sanctuary for the monkeys. in 2019 there were local articles saying the idea there was research on these monkeys was ridiculous. come to find out, due to the good work of white coat waste. up to 600 monkeys a year are taken from this island and injected with diseases and later killed. it's disgusting. dr. fauci we sent a letter off and he did not respond. we decided to go down and see it for ourselves. justin was with us yesterday. >> will:

the nih is set to release new data on a key question today. how do current vaccines hold up to the new variant? >>> and heading to kentucky. president biden arrives in kentucky. he arrived in kentucky moments ago to see the tornado devastation firsthand. >>> let's begin with the congressional investigation into the attack on the u.s. capitol. the justice department now must decide whether to pursue a prosecution of mark meadows. the house voted last night as we know to hold the former trump white house chief of staff in criminal contempt of congress for refusing to cooperate with the panel investigating the insurrection. meadows is now the first former member of congress held in contempt since 1832. the vote was mostly along party lines with liz cheney and adam kinzinger as the only republicans voting with democrats on this. before the vote, the january 6th committee shared more revealing text messages from unnamed -- that unnamed lawmakers sent to meadows as the siege unfolded in realtime. let's get to paula reid in washington with the latest

them like ted cruz who has been great, when he testified i believe it was may 11th and sai that the nihever funded any gain of function research. i think it might've been exchange with you, now we know from the nih itself we know fro the 900 documents on the intercept and we know from his own e-mails that in fact he kne that the coronavirus gain of function research was been bein done at the wuhan neurology lab and that his nih was funding it. >> in realized to this day he hasn't taken any of it back and he hasn't learned any lessons. to this day he still supports sending money to china, he stil supports the research in wuhan and he still supports gain of function research throughout th united states. they're is a possibility that a virus could escape the that has 50 percent mortality. he has been in favor of allowin experiments with viruses that have 50 percent mortality, the current virus is wreaking havoc in it has a 1 percent mortality. can you imagine if the virus ha escaped from the lab, he is a danger to mankind because he doesn't want to place any limit on this gain of function

maybe that's because under his direction it was his nih funding the gain of function research at that institute of virology in wuhan. the nih admit they had funded a study at the wuhan lab where spike proteins were occurring to see if they were capable of binding to a human being. that's gain of function research. you paid for it. on may 11th fauci testified the nih was never involved in gain of function at the wuhan institute of virology. dr. fauci is a liar. who knows whether or not anthony fauci will get prosecuted. that only happens to people who know donald trump. anthony fauci has to go. he needs to be fired today. he is dishonest and incompetent and speculates widely and wrong often. he spends more time as a political pundit on tv than a doctor and more than anything seems to love the limelight. according to the conspiracy theories at msnbc half the country no longer trust dr. fauci because they want the pandemic to continue. what? name one person that wants this adam schiff show to continue. take a look. >> if covid goes away it's bad for republicans. it's just the political m

for that reason, we ask the nih guidelines committee to put together a recommendation of, when someoneomes in with acute infection and is in a risk group, which is what you want this to before since we have limited supply, that we would have a prioritize asian -- a prioritization of the best approach. it would almost certainly be a physician writing a prescription for someone in the first three days of notable symptoms of covid and in a high-risk group to get it. but those guidelines, which will not only be limited to what you would do with the pill, but also whether it might be more appropriate to recommend remdesivir, which can be given in a three-decors, or one of the monoclonal antibodies that work. stay tuned. this will be coming up shortly from the guidelines committee. >> next question, please. >> let's go to ricardo from ap. >> can you hear me? thank you for taking my question. dr. walensky, my question is, the president said we are going to see more cases involving unvaccinated people. in every workplace he said, even the white house, and anecdotally, people are saying that wi

. >> judy, i'm really glad to be here and welcome to nih.you came out here. >> very glad to be here. as we sit here on december 3rd, we covid very much still with us, is your greater concern at this moment, the cases, the variants that are still out there or omicron, which is now arriving in this country? >> well, the one we know about is delta, and delta is still very much with us. even though we've seen some decrease in the number of cases, it's still tens and tens of thousands every day. so while omicron, the sort of new variant that we're all focused on is a potential threat. delta is a real threat right now. we're still seeing 800, 900 people dying every day from this delta's outbreak. and sadly, almost all of those are unvaccinated. so we have not gotten to the point where we could have been in this country of being better protected. but omicron is clearly an interesting beast. this virus is throwing another trick in our direction. it's a wily virus, and it has now these 50 some mutations, almost 30 of which we haven't even seen in any

the nih has contradicted that in writing. not only that, he communicated with mark zuckerberg an email asking facebook to censor anyone suggesting the virus came from the wuhan institute of virology. that's politics and its dishonesty and he's done an enormous damage. >> laura: he's a political hack, his time has come and gone. expiration date on fauci has long since passed. senator cruz, great to have you tonight. coming up, the bill nye infrastructure booster, more biden bumbles and jussie smollett debuts his latest role as a defendant. raymond arroyo has it next. ♪ ♪ >> laura: it's time for seen and unseen segments where we reveal stories behind the headlines. we turn to the author of the spider who saved christmas, raymond arroyo. you have some unseen items for us tonight. >> i sure do, this first one should never have been seeing. the white house is so desperate to pass its $1.7 trillion spending bill that is now gathering celebrity endorsements. enter bill nye, they call him a science icon in this video. at least that i

i'll ask the nih director dr. francis collins when he sits down for a one-on-one just ahead. >>> plus sources telling nbc news that senate democrats are preparing to miss next week's deadline to pass the president's sweeping social spending bill. in fact, a vote could slide all the way into march. so a lot going on. good afternoon, i'm chris jansing at msnbc world headquarters in new york. we begin with mike memoli traveling with the president in dawson springs, kentucky. allison barber is there where she's been in touch with survivors. and nbc's gabe guiterrez in mayfield, kentucky. let's start with allison. as we await president biden's arrival there in dawson springs, you've been on the ground, you've looked for yourself, seen the destruction, seen the scale of the need, what is the president going to see and experience when he gets there? >> reporter: he's going to see homes like this one. this belonged to a woman named shauna. you could see a lot of her children's things here. what remains of christmas wrappi

these are hard earned taxpayer dollars funding agencies like cdc, fda, nih, and it is fundamental that they are transparent. i have had too many examples in leading the energy and commerce committee that has jurisdiction over these agencies where they have not been responsive to letters, they have not answered simple questions about what was going on at the wuhan lab, and u.s. taxpayer dollars being used fund activities at the wuhan lab, or why certain decisions were made that were in conflict with the world health organization. there has been too many examples that have resulted in trust being broken. so, i would urge leadership at these agencies to be transparent , and accountable over how taxpayer dollars have been used, and the importance of following the science that has been a mantra. we have seen science evolve, we continue to learn more and we need to be open to where the science is evolving, and making sure we are being reds parent with ms -- being transparent with americans. caitlin: the pandemic has raised the tension between immediacy and the need to meticulously collect da

instead what we got was lies from the head of the nih. absolutely shocking. >> did you think they would target you? they want to, quote, devastating response and takedown of what you were advocating, it wasn't just you. scientists from all over the world were signing on to this? >> tens of thousands of scientists and doctors signed on to this. the problem is doctor collins sits on top of $40 billion worth of money that go to other scientists to fund research. when he said he wants a devastating takedown you have the resources to find people to do that, they went to friendly press, spread their propaganda lies about the barrington declaration to not engage with the ideas in it. they didn't take out its premises. if they thought it was impossible to protect the vulnerable they should have said that. the major problem was it correctly pointed out the enormous collateral harm from the lockdown policies. isolation, people lost businesses, going to the doctor for cancer screening, in poor countries tens of millions of people starving in the loc

at what we got was lies from the head of the nih. it was absolutely shocking. >> jason: did you ever think that they would actually target you? they wanted a quote unquote devastating response and what you advocated. there are scientists from all over the world that were signing on to this. >> tens of thousands of scientists and doctors signed on to this. the problem here is that dr. collins sits on top of over $40 billion worth of money that goes to other scientists to fund research. when he says he wants a "devastating takedown" he has the resources to go find people to do that. and you see the strategies that they use, they went to friendly press to spread their propaganda and lies about the declaration in order to not engage with the ideas in it. they didn't actually take down its premises. if they thought that it was impossible to protect the vulnerable, they should have said that. the major problem was that the declaration correctly pointed out the enormous collateral harm from the lockdown policies involved. every single perso

this morning, what do we know about these experiments and the nih's involvement?s the nih spends about $19.6 billion a year on animal experiments, and as you mentioned, they have contracts worth more than $1.2 billion -- million dollars, i'm sorry come over the last ten years or so buying beagles from this facility located in central virginia, where how they buy puppies in hideous conditions, they have been cited by the u.s. department of agriculture for direct and critical violation for failure to provide basicic necessities of life to these nursing mother dogs and their puppies, keeping animals in temperatures as high as 92 degrees without airir conditioning, plunging needles into the heads of puppies to drain hematomas. depriving nursing mother dogs who are famished of food for up to two days, and so much more, and the federal investigation is ongoing, and i should mention that these dogs are being raised for cruel experiments that are useless, and it is not just our federal government and our tax dollars, but contract laboratories and universities f that are f

the nih appears to be transferring technology to dr. barrick.ey are making clear is, quote: nrna coronavirus vaccine candidates developed and jointly owned by niaid and moderna. now, this is weird. because it's two weeks later that we know there is a problem. they signed that deal two weeks before -- and they sign it with the doctor who happened to be a partner with the bat lady in wuhan. here's where it gets really dark. these are the same group of people that in the end of january, begin to have meetings and they shut down and begin to smear anyone who is looking into the lab leak theory. they established that's not true, don't even look there. it appears to be collusion, you know, we have passed this on to several people in congress and the senate, we know rand paul is on this. and dr. fauci has some answers to give. >> tucker: i just want to affirm what you are saying, you are the amazing reporting you have done on this. here is a clip of the recently departed nih director francis collins admitting that the u.s. government has a stake in the

the nih contradicted that in writing. not only that but fauci communicated with mark zuckerberg in emails asking facebook to censor suggesting the virus came from the wuhan institute of virology. that is politics and dishonesty and he has done enormous damage. laura: he is a political hack and his time has come and gone, expiration date on fauci -- great to have you on the court tonight. coming up the bill night infrastructure booster, more biden bubbles and jussie smollett debuts his latest role as a defendant in court, raymond arroyo has it, seen and unseen next. i got this mountain bike for only $11. dealdash.com the fair and honest bidding site. this i-pad sold for less than $43. this kitchenaid mixer sold for less than $26. a 4k television for under $2. a macbook pro for under $16. this playstation 5 sold for less than a dollar. and brand new cars for less than $900. dealdash.com offers hundreds of auctions every day. all auctions start at $0 and everything must go. and don't forget we offer a full 90 day money back

tony was a good colleague when i worked with him but he's become more political and it's a fact the nihtitute funded gain of function research, that is a fact is not a rumor, he needs to stick to the area where he is most knowledgeable about vaccine development. he's not knowledgeable about liberty and rights or public health measures. kennedy: the gain of function stuff is really coming back to bite him in the keister and of course he lied about on capitol hill and let's not forget about fauci killing people puppies. vice president of public policy for the right coast coat project. welcome to the show. >> thanks for having me. kennedy: you and this is your life's work exposing government, corruption, what is the most troubling asset of lord fauci's deal? >> whether it's gain of function research in china or below gate turning out to be one of the biggest scandals in his career tracing back to taxpayer advocates funding on his watch for years that's potentially killed five many people and taken lives of countless dogs. kennedy: let's talk about it because people need to know about this

has no one from the nih been fired? obviously if you we are to believe that this is as bad as we are telling less than obvious that we've made some mistakes because even if their mistakes are just messaging mistakes, so we the people decided to just do whatever we want, it still falls on them. why is no one fired and why is this ripping across the world? it has nothing to do across the world. and they will be a new one after that and more lockdowns after that. >> emily: i have a few names that i could say she could no longer be at the nih but we will go there. i thought this was the best that has been said that he wrote this. these are stricter measures with three vaccines then we had a year ago with no vaccines and that's why shut down the virus is a joe biden's read my lips moment and he has failed, it's just that simple. >> we need to understand that this is no longer about health and safety, this is about government, compliance and control. we are talking about the omicron variance and the symptoms seem to be mild.

that is until his own nih said that they did.vidence, it was overwhelming of the theory. and he even, by the way, after he was warned otherwise. here with reaction, senator rand paul who has had his number from the get-go from the beginning. you know, i want to go to this follow the signs -- you are a medical doctor, rand paul. kids are mandated to new york to get into a restaurant have to be vaccinated between the ages of five and 11. but the rate of kids during this whole pandemic 5-11, dying is equal to that of that of kids who die from the flu on any given year, pretty close. he doesn't want to delve into the science of natural immunity. i never hear him talk about monoclonal antibodies that have been shown an enormously effective and everything that i've read and see. so explain to me, why is this only one-size-fits-all medicine all the time? >> these people won't be happy until they -- they really want to get your newborn inoculated before they leave the hospital. they are going to restrict certain things for they're not go

fauci and the former nih director.he emails are about orchestrating media attacks on scientists they don't like who were opposed to lockdowns. when dr. fauci opposed lockdowns he was against them at the start of the pandemic. plus we've got studies from the w.h.o. that says lockdowns don't work. this controversy. critics say nancy pelosi release your tax returns after you backed stock trading by congress. plus, the feel-good christmas story. military veterans, member of the reserve surprising washington, rescuing dozens of citizens and legal residents from afghanistan. the white house again trying to claim their botched exit from afghanistan was a success. elon musk firing back at senator elizabeth warren saying he will pay $11 billion in taxes after senator warren called musk a freeloader. now senator warren is trying to fund raise and freeload off this fight she started. texas governor abbott says the consequences of biden's failure to secure the border, are quote, staggering. another potential terrorist now caught.

-- fda approved, nih documented.ld have been part of our toolkit from the beginning. the nih actually has a trial they are doing on ivermectin that's due to be completed in march of 2023. it should have been an all-hands-on-deck effort to evaluate these -- from the early epidemic. >> laura: there was only one path that it went through the big pharma company, there was only one path for these people from the beginning. great to see you both. up next, an inspiring moment comes out of a terrible tragedy. the last bite. >> laura: in the wake of the horrific tornadoes that devastated the midwest south last week, one kentucky man decided to make something really beautiful. ♪ ♪ >> laura: to support the victims of the terrible disaster by donating to the tornado relief fund, the website is listed below. pray for these people. i'm laura ingraham. ♪ ♪ [cheers and applause] [scattered applause] >> greg: it's monday, everyone, which means it's time for... >> and now, "gutfeld!" presents, the dumbest man in america. >> crime is r

you put the mask up to your face, you breathe into it, five seconds later or less, as proven by the nihwill have a confirmed result of whether you have flu, covid, or whether you're simply negative. you know right away, you have returned to certainty, you feel safe when you go out, you feel safe after you leave a public place, you know for sure what your situation is. liz: i am looking at a little plastic tube in the middle of this box, so if i understand it, you breathe into that tube. can it detect omicron? >> actually, we're agnostic to the variant, so because they're all spike protein viruses so most of the times people don't care which variant they have, they just know they have covid. have you to isolate the same way you would with any of these just omicron is more transmissible and potentially more deadly to those people that are immune- compromised. liz: okay it's $1,299 when you start shipping them. >> right i'm sorry, liz. liz: no that's okay. i would assume that this thing, you can use over and over and over again, right? >> yes, the one that you were showing there is for the

>> the nih song tells the story for me.h director members his pre-pandemic life is long overdue and i want to get them to normalcy and it needs to recapture that is a country and the blue areas are in no hurry to make that happen. stuart: was there a single incident in new york city that was the last straw and i am leaving? >> know one thing. it was heading in that direction for a long time. when we closed schools last year and didn't reopen in the face of all scientific evidence saying we should that was a major thing for me. the continued masking was a huge thing for me, the mandates, i don't see evidence kids need the vaccine. all the kind of things aimed at children is the problem for me. i hear from people all the time having the same consideration, friends in staten island whose kids are already home from school because of covid cases and there is no moving on. i don't see the focusing on the children we should have, moving past the pandemic and making sure kids are leading a normal healthy life. stuart: you are movin

the nih is funding two large trials right now. one of which using a network which i helped create with the nih and this patient center outcomes research institute. i think we all see treatments, and i made the point in my opening statement. most of what we develop no matter how good the science looks turns out to have risks that supersede the benefit. so we got have an open mind. we got do the trials and then we have to follow the science, follow the data. >> thank you. i was made aware of a practice that perhaps you could elaborate on, which is that a product may be approved for usage by a physician, but limited when it can be used or how it can be used. and i'm thinking with regards to monoclonal antibodies. was related that an individual in a hospital with advanced covid had been in the hospital for several day, wanted to get a monoclonal antibody treatment was told you can't get that, we won't allow that in the hospital, the fda doesn't allow us to treat you with monoclonal antibodies, even though at the beginning of the disea

from the beginning of this effort, we partnered with nih.he nih was testing are vaccine -- our vaccine in humans 40 days after we actually started our process. it was not that they laughed at us -- of course they were worried how could a company we don't know withstand this type of capital/importance, if you will. how can it scale up quickly? a lot of unknowns. good news for us, starting with the team, there were all-stars from all the major pharma companies. david: did people call you up all the time and say, can you get me some of the moderna? or did you unlist your number? noubar: i did get calls i never thought i would get anymore from many countries and leaders. david: what did they say? noubar: the reality was i could not do anything. nobody could do anything. legally, the entire supply was in the possession of the u.s. government. the ones we were making in the u.s. it had not been authorized for any other use other than emergency. any supply under the table, if you will, would be illegal. i fact told many people i would more readily

thank you. >> it's good to be with you, anderson. >> by the way, your last day at nih is sunday. so thank you for your service and all you have done to help so many people. appreciate it. >> it's been a complete privilege. thank you. >> thank you. >>> coming up next, colorado's governor on why he doesn't see the need for a mask mandate in his state and why he recently said the covid emergency is over. we will talk to jared polis ahead. >>> and later, we will return to our breaking news on the possible source of the message pushing to throw out electoral votes before all the votes were even counted. psoriasis really messes with you. try. hope. fail. no one should suffer like that. i started cosentyx®. five years clear. real people with psoriasis look and feel better with cosentyx. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infection, some serious and a lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor about an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to. tell your doctor if your crohn's disease

francis collins, the head of the nih about the new variant. how soon before we know how dangerous the omicron variant really is. omicron variant really is. instantly clear everyday congestion with vicks sinex saline. for fast drug free relief vicks sinex. instantly clear everyday congestion. and try vicks sinex children's saline. safe and gentle relief for children's noses. . welcome back the omicron variant has been identified in 16 states across the country as scientists try to >>> welcome back the omicron variant has been identified in 16 states across the country as scientists try to find out how dangerous it is. a new study says omicron may have picked up genetic material from the virus that creates the common cold. that could create greater transmissibility, but perhaps making it less likely to cause severe symptoms. that's one question. a surge in demands for vaccines including a six-month high on thursday. joining me is the director of the national institutes of health, dr. francis collins. dr. collins, good to see you, sir. >> nice to