nixon told president johnson. now we know that nixon lied. what was the impact of the nixon lie?ow might history have been different if there was a peace treat ne 1968? >> that is excellent question, now that we know nixon was involved personally, that's the $100,000 question. and there's debate on both sides. i believe it had some effect but we have to remember that south vietnamese and north vietnamese don't act in vacuums. they have their own political pressures in hanoi and saigon. and could be that negotiations would have failed anyway and breakthrough that johnson thought he had was not really there. >> timothy you say that nixon's interference in the peace talks set the tone for his administration. have donald trump's set tone for his? >> we'll see about donald trump. but i'm convinced that only way to understand watergate is understand that richard nixon took the kind of tools that the cia would do and use oversea in doing covert action and applied them at home. and the chenault matter, the 1968 case that jack ferrell gave us the key missing piece too, that was covert act

the more nefarious reasons was that nixon had been -- not nixon, but his envoys had been wiretapped and eavesdropped and followed around and would look bad for the american president to use the fbi in the late stages of a campaign. but the practical reason was as clark clifford told him in this 11th-hour meeting about this when they made the decision not to, was that we really don't know whether nixon was personally directing this. and that's what the haldeman notes show is nixon was personally giving these orders. >> and jack, i imagine you've been having some sensations of parallels to what we've been seeing this year. some democrats complaining that president obama should have come out more strongly with what they found out about the russian hacking. about vladimir putin's involvement. and a similar reluctance on the president's part about just how political this might be perceived to be. >> yeah. and there are certainly echos, there was a great picture in "the new york times" a few weeks back. it was a picture of one of the computer sevenervers that had b hacked standing next to a f

nixon is frustrated, terrified. nixon now has an opportunity to lead. he finally says -- everybody says don't do it, be wary. he said we would take as much heat for sending three ad much as 30, so they did. golda meir hears that and she cries. the israeli people feel so abandoned and terrified. you see those planes coming and over the streets of tel aviv? ,hey sing in the streets ♪ god bless america and richard nixon is seen as the savior of the state of israel. i can feel the power in the room right now. the conservatives of orange county are in love with me. but now, buckle your seat belts. we're going to go ahead. these are more memos showing the complexity. continue. there is a mystery about richard nixon. win, these. one more. no, one more. at the same time, we know that richard nixon said some pretty nasty things about the jews. buck yell your seat belts and listen. [recording inaudible] professor troy: ok, thank you. we are going to continue. the context is it is april 19, 1972. nixon is about to go to russia. he is going for this pre-election. .

not just nixon or trump. >> lbj did use the material with nixon.d him he knew what he had done, forced him to use the information to get back to -- >> i remember the reagan stuff. this went out as alert. main victim of the hacking, hillary clinton is going to ahend the inauguration with her husband. all former living presidents will be there except bush who is infirm. they have to for history's sake go. wasn't a big deal to me. >> they all needed to be there. there are times when some won't. andrew johnson wouldn't go to ulysses s. grab the but i knew they would rally. we're one nation and have to stay united. all doing the right thing by being there. >> there's going to be a huge shift in policy between barack obama and president-elect. have we seen abrupt switches between administration? >> sure. harriy truman and eisenhower hardly spoke to one another riding together. and saying that john adsomes got in carriage and didn't attend thomas jefferson's inauguration. president-elects handle these as best they can. one instructive lesson we can learn

there is a mystery about richard nixon. at the same time, we know that richard nixon said some pretty nasty things about the jews. [indiscernible] gil: we are going to continue. the contact is it is april 19, 1973. nixon is about to go to russia. he is going for this pre-election. he is worried that the jewish community is making travel over the issue of soviet-jewish immigration. henry kissinger says he will put the blame on them and do it before 80 million people. they put the jewish interests above america's interest. it is about time that the american jew sees that it is america first anti-jewish second. -- and the jewish second. how do we reconcile the two? i direct you to the words of len garment. this was richard nixon's law partner. he was an political exile. they became good friends. garment was a proud jew from brooklyn. he was in a jazz trio with alan greenspan. that is another lecture. [applause] [laughter] garment is appointed. in fairness, they did not like him. garment says that nixon was a champion hater. he

jack ferrell has found nixon campaign aide haldeman's nates about a conversation with nixon about the scheme, notes, "keep working on south vietnam any other way to monkey wrench it." as rumor spread that nixon might be interfering with the talks, he got very worried about this, knowing that it was a crime. he called president johnson. and he lied to him. about what he was doing. when lyndon johnson confronted richard nixon about this. >> hello? >> mr. president, this is dic nixon. >> yes, dick. >> i want to let you know i got a report regarding your call and i just went on "meet the press" and i said that -- on "meet the press" that i had given you my personal assurance that i would do everything possible to cooperate both before the election and if elected after the election and if you felt, the secretary of state felt, that anything would be useful that i could do, i would do it, that i felt han -- i felt saigon should come to the conference table, that you felt it was necessary to go there or go to paris, either one. i just wanted you to know that i feel very, very strongly about

there you see the director of caa, nixon's press secretary, nixon, johnson, assistant secretary cyrus and one of nixon's top staff, jim jones, tom johnson and secretary of state. they were there to infer about the presidency. >> this is kind of like president obama inviting donald trump over to have a little chat to prefilled in case he won the presidency. they spend some time together, but i want you to notice what president johnson is wearing. those were his ranch close. >> that's what we called them, his ranch clothes. that morning, as i came to work and went into the security trailer, the agents on duty said hey clint, there's a package from the president. i took the package into the back room and opened it and it was a set of ranch close like his. i put them back in the package and went through the day not thinking too much about it.afte after nixon and agnew left, i went back to the security trailer and the phone rang and it was johnson. he wanted me to put on those ranch close, by the swimming pool where he was at, and he wanted me to show him he they fit. he wanted me to model

i mean, at least the politics worked for nixon. nixon got elected.lways denied he'd done anything to fro long the war for his own political purposes, denied he'd done anything to destroy that chance at peace in vietnam. always denied that to the end. now we know his denials were total bullpucky. author of a new nixon biography, historian john farrell, uncovered notes from nixon's closest aide showing nixon directed his campaign to scuttle the peace talks. october 22nd, 1968, notes taken by that staffer show that nixon told him to monkey wrench these efforts to start the peace negotiations. "any other way to monkey wrench it? anything r.n., anything richard nixon can do?" nixon also directed his vice presidenti candidate agnewo threaten the cia director richard helms around these negotiations. the notes read "agnew, go see helms, tell him we want the truth or he hasn't got the job." meaning he won't stay on as director of the cia once i'm president unless he does what i want here. nothing like threatening the cia director even before you take office,

lbj has eavesdropping going on, he knew there were connections between the nixon campaign, but nixonlways denied that he personally was involved. he denied to to david frost, as your listeners just heard to lyndon johnson at the time. and what i found were these notes that he -- the late night conversation between he and bob. which he specifically says, keep working on south vietnam, tell them to hold firm. let's see what we can do to monkey wrempbl johnson's peace initiative. >> from the nixon standpoint, one of the defenses, i think that comes out is the idea the white house. they were being political too in they wanted to have some kind of deal and humphrey was trying to come from behind. >> there are parallels and the russians were including in an american election trying to get humphrey elected as well. there was ample ways for nixon and his people to sort of justify this. in some ways may come down just to be a huge tragedy in that because he was so insecure and almost paranoia, richard nixon saw this as a dirty trick by lyndon johnson to get him when actually tlfrs a sincere p

richard nixon: i, richard m.ixon, solemnly swear i will support the constitution of the united states against all of its enemies, foreign and domestic. >> that i will bear true faith and allegiance to the same. richard nixon: that i will bear true faith and allegiance to the same. >> that i take this freely without any reservation or purpose of evasion. harold rogers: that i take this freely without any reservation or purpose of evasion. >> and that i will well and faithfully execute the office upon which i am about to embark, -- harold rogers: and that i will well and faithfully execute the office upon which i am about to embark. >> so help me god. harold rogers: so help me god. >> congratulations, mr. vice president. >> richard m. nixon, who has become the vice president of the united states, is shaking hands with mr. eisenhower. narrator: at the moment the , united states had no president. harry truman's term expired at noon, and general eisenhower was not sworn in until 12:32. ♪ ["hail to the chief"] narrator

, says trump could be more corrupt than nixon himself. dean will talk about that ahead. plus, tonight's thing 1 thing 2 starts right after this break. >>> thing 1 tonight. when donald trump takes the oath of office on friday, michael flynn will become the new national security advisor. as you may remember, another michael flynn made headlines last month, that would be michael flynn, jr., the former lieutenant general's son. flynn, jr., stirred up quite a bit of controversy when he tweeted about an insane conspiracy theory that hillary clinton was involved in a child sex ring run out of a pizza shop in washington, d.c., also known as #pizzagate. that conspiracy theory, which is completely untrue, exploded on the internet leading one man to show up at this pizzeria on a mission to flee the imaginary captives before firing a rifle into the restaurant and getting arrested. the same day that terrifying incident occurred, december 4, that was when michael flynn jr. decided to start tweeting about #pizzagate. the problem is, flynn jr. wasn't jus

nixon's instructions. richardson's deputy has been fired.e refused, and a moment of constitutional drama, to obey a presidential order to fire the special watergate prosecutor. and half an hour after the special watergate prosecutor had been fired, agents of the fbi, acting at the direction of the white house, sealed off the offices of the special prosecutor, the offices of the attorney general, and the offices of the deputy attorney general. all of this adds up to a totally unprecedented situation, a grave and profound crisis in which the president has set himself against his own attorney general and the department of justice. amy: that was john chancellor announcing the saturday night massacre. you were the youngest congressmember at the time and the youngest one on the house judiciary committee, elizabeth holtzman. >> i was the youngest woman elected to congress until a couple of years ago. i don't about the end is never that committee. i never checked that. amy: talk about that night. talk about what happened and the significance, and th

they stayed with nixon a lot longer than you would think. conservatives stay in the nixon camp. it is only when he announces he is opening relations with china that they leave altogether. media activists come out with a support foror their nixon. he sees it as one of the biggest moral failures for market policy in a half-century. in 1972, conservative media challenge to nixon in , nixon isican primary pivotal for them to figure out what the relationship between p t should be when it comes to presidential politics. >> budget cuts. thank you. fun and sent. -- front and center. >> given what you describe in the republican party, you can find similar conflicting schools analysis,somewhat conflicting schools within the should we tryty, to broaden this? not how is -- settling out within the parties, why not new parties forming around different groups. mentioned innot the constitution. best case was the third-party candidacy. maybe now the landscape is changing fundamentally. of discussiontime about the possibility of new parties. many people out there predicted the death of the gop wi

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nixon's order. sally kulian yates was confirmed by the senate as deputy attorney general in the spring of 2015 and one week, one week before that, ann marie donnely had her confirmation hearing for a federal judgeship, usually chosen by senators of the president's party in the state where the judge will serve. as tradition has it, that senator introduces the nominee to the judiciary committee as chuck schumer did for ann marie donnelly. fully qualified with a resume that reads like most federal judges, 25 years as a prosecutor then a state court judge. it was also obvious to the committee in this case that senator schumer knew the nominee well, both lived in brooklyn and both had daughters on the same basketball team. we have over 1,700 federal judges, most serve their entire careers without making history. when you're a judge, you don't get to pick your -- it walks in your door. ann marie donnelly, jurisdiction over -- just before 9:00 p.m. in her brooklyn courtroom, judge donnelly became the first

obviously it's been quite a while since nixon was the president. we have had ups and downs, up and downs in terms of rhetoric. this is certainly a new level of rhetoric a new low some might say, what we saw during the campaign, the transition and now what we are seeing during the presidency. that's what a lot of people would argue. what kubl are the risks here if we continue down this path where people are not only fired but they are fired by saying that they are betraying the president and that they are -- they need to get in line? what is the logical conclusion to that. >> welling we have a similarity between nixon and trump in the fact they are both authoritarian personalities. nixon, really, but for the tapes and people who were the white house and understanding that permit, his authoritarianism wasn't well-known. it certainly became known after the tapes were released. trump has been right out front. he has not tried in any way to be anything other than who he is. so these are very authoritarian style presidencies. and we are watching what aut

richard nixon: i, richard m nixon, solemnly swear i will support and of the constitution of the unitedtes against all of its enemies foreign and domestic. >> that i will bear. -- true faith and allegiance to the same. that i think this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion. and that i will well and faithfully execute the office upon which i am about to embark. harold rogers: and that i will well and faithfully execute the office upon which i am about to embark. >> so help me god. harold rogers: so help me god. >> congratulations, mr. vice president. >> richard m. nixon, who has become the vice president of the united states, is shaking hands with mr. eisenhower. narrator: at the moment, the united states had no president. harry truman's term expired at noon, and general eisenhower was not sworn in until 12:32. ♪ ["hail to the chief"] narrator: but now, he was at the rostrum with the chief justice of the united states supreme court who was to administer the brief oath. his voice was slightly tremulous though his hand was steady as he repeated the histori

richard nixon was elected in 1968, re-elected in 1972. that meant that his inauguration day for a second term was in january 1973. it was his inauguration date, january 20th, '73. almost spooky to look back at that day now because of the way we know the way that term ended up. his inauguration day was 42 degrees that day, a stiff wind blowing. there he was getting sworn in along with spear rowing a knew. we know within nine months of that inauguration, spiro agnew would be resigning in disgrace while facing corruption charges. not long thereter, of course, president nixon would be resigning in disgrace in the watergate scandal. that inauguration date, the start of their second term, that day itself was a perfectly inauspicious start to that inauspicious presidential term. the president may have been trying to project a little youthful vigor or something or for whatever reason he went out that day to his inauguration, january 20th, 1973, he went out just in his suit, he went out without a top coat. turns out, that was a bad plan. once he w

nixon to china moment is to transfer immigration policy?> to allow most to have the 11 million to 12 million people here to stay, not to become citizens. but no one could criticize him as soft on immigration. like nixon could sit with mao, donald trump could go anything he wants on immigration and no one would believe it's amnesty. sean spicer said monday in a teleconference our priorities are not to go after the doca kids. our priority is to go after the people who have broken the law in the united states and represent a threat. that's actually channeling the blueprint for reform that reince priebus, the so-called autopsy done four years ago, a regularization is exactly what the republicans called for and i believe donald trump will embrace that because it makes sense, he knows the people who work in the trades, we have in to see him are largely latino in places like california. the dry wallers are almost 100% latino americans. and he understands getting elected and building. i'm an optimist on that. >> rose: with respect to trade, you're

his nixon ini'm notch -- i am ne will do that.m not sure that steve bannon will want him to do that. >> i think he probably thinks china opportunity was with russia, but at this point any outreach to russia is so suspect given all of the noise around the election. charlie: did i hear him clearly say, we are moving to an era of protectionism? >> i don't know if he said that explicitly, but he did say protect. he did not talk about it in the context of trade. but that was his message. charlie: his message, we will americanell out of corporations, as well as tariffs on foreign corporations, if they do not allow us to play on a level playing field. >> we will wait until that happens in the market is affected deeply and prices go up. it is an abstraction when you are not doing with real-world effect. soon we will be. charlie: after, we all have the same freedoms, we salute the same thing, we share the same sky and the same dreams, he woonce again appealed to his base, to all of those americans, you will never be ignored agian, your voi

charlie: worse than nixon in terms of corruption? what kind of corruption?> he points to his business entanglements and the alleged tied with russia. his argument is that any one of these scandals and waiting could blow up on him, and he still doesn't see a scenario where it is so bad that he will be forced out of office. it is hard for him to envision in this environment any revelation explosive enough to force a president out of office. charlie: he said a lot of things that were very bold today, but he also promised to be bold. i raised this question last night, in fact. what might he do if he wanted to be, not just in foreign policy, but in both foreign and domestic policy, a kind of nixon goes to china? >> i watched your interesting program last night. you had a fabulous panel and nobody had a great answer to that. maybe smarter people than me , like you three or four here, will. charlie: let me rephrase. what could donald trump do that he can uniquely do because he is who he is, but would surprise us? >> i would just quickly say that some kind of racial

and nixon was refusing to give them up and so nixon finally decided he's going to fire cox but to do that he had to get his attorney general to do it. the attorney general was elliott richardson, an upstanding gentleman from massachusetts. he said, absolutely not. i will quit before that happens. so he quit. the number two was a man named william ruk kels house. he wouldn't do it either. he also quit. number four was nominated for the supreme court, the nomination failed. borke said i will fire cox. cox was fired and the fbi was called in and that was called the saturday night massacre. it was on this network by the anchor at this time, this may be the greatest constitutional crisis in history. what we're seeing now in 2017 doesn't loom as large as that but i think it raises a couple of questions, which are, number one, how independent is the department of justice going to be under the trump administration? this raises real questions. number two, you mentioned that jeff sessions is about to be confirmed. the whole nature of that confirmation, i think, is likely to be transformed and,

nixon said you were great on tv.n expert in politics and she said whenever you decide to run for office, you'll be a winner. signed, warm regards, richard nixon. what did they hear that they liked? trump spent a lot of time talking about how his dad taught him business and his mom taught him show business. >> i believe whatever i have in terms of the dra mat yik, i think i got it from my mother. >> reporter: skills he'll take with him along with that fan letter. trump plans to oval office. >> premonition there. >> yes, he did. he knew about that, and for those who are trying to figure out what was the donahue show, it was popular before oprah. >>> thousands gathers for the preinaugural concert. >> the line ups was heavy on country music. some of my favorite with the day's biggest attraction toby keith playing several of his biggest hits including a rendition of "american soldier". and you could even see donald trump mouthing the songs. later today she's not even old enough to vote yet, but 16-year-old jackie evancho

nixon stopped watching tv. answer. the don't watch tv.sident trump loves tv, and that is a good source of information. charlie: the washington post has a thing about how, but it is not .omputers he tweets, but not because he sits there with his own device, according to the washington post. he watches television in the morning. hugh: he watches you in the morning. charlie: during the campaign, he said he learned a lot by about the iran nuclear debates. hugh: did you ever hear his , whereny about the u.n. the united states ought to pay for the remodeling of the u.n.? i think he is a builder, and senator corker agrees with me, another developer. what is on my critical path today? who can help me get to that end result? act onbring the men and their advice. that is president trump. that is not obama, a law professor, but a builder of buildings that are tall and strong and very complex. charlie: you would say that goes with the territory, if you don't have it, you will never be president? hugh: i started to mention john meacham and andrew jack

what of the big controversies, isn't it, about why nixon didn't use eisenhower. there was some discussion whether or not i was ever asked whether the health was really the issue. but you know, it's unusual for an incumbent vice president to be elected, isn't it? >> guest: it is. you look back at history. vice president gore did something similar with bill clinton obviously there were different circumstances in that he is trying to distance himself from all the ones of the clinton controversy, but at the same time clinton was a great campaigner. he did not use them. same kind of deal if you look back at history, perhaps it might have been better for richard nixon to own an issue then jump from something. >> host: of all of ike relationship with other great man, which do think was the most intriguing of them? >> i almost wrote the book on relationship between your grandfather and churchill, and the letters that they sent back and forth. i think there's a lot to explore that i just didn't go down, but it's there at the library. they really valued each other in the w

next to appear was the vice president-elect, richard nixon.is entrance to the stand being met with a spontaneous cheer from the chairman this crowd. last to arrive were the generals, escorted through the rotunda by senator bridges, speaker martin and others, the president elect appeared solemn and reflective for this occasion was in the name of the republican party riding back into power for the first time in decades. cheer burst from the crowd. filling everyone available space to see the end of one regime and to beginning of a new era. >> i, richard m nixon, solemnly swear i will support and of the constitution of the united states against all of its enemies foreign and domestic. that i will bear true faith and , that ice to the same any this freely without reservation or purpose of and that i will well and officelly execute the upon which i am about to embark, so help me god. >> congratulations, mr. vice president. -- richard m next who has become the vice president of the united states. ask at this moment, the united states had no president

the prize for most faimous removal of a attorney general naturally was richard nixon.ll in the service of getting an independent special prosecutor fired during the watergate scandal to save his own skin. that was the saturday night massacre, nixon's mowing down of the justice department in service of his own aims. this obviously is different. but history tends to rhyme on matters like this. joining us is abc news presidential historian and a columnist for the daily beast. gentlemen, i appreciate you bothing with here staying up late to cover this. >> pleasure. >> michael, let me start with you in washington we talked a little bit about the historical precedent of the saturday night massacre. we are now on to a new level of expectation with this story. the new kt aing attorney general the one installed tonight after sally yates was fired he immediately rescinded her order which told department of justice lawyers that they shouldn't defend their refugee and immigration executive order in court. that means he has rescinded that order, he is effectively oshding the depart

trump is worse than nixon?, i have actually said that, that he's more nixonian than nixon. nixon hit a lot of his dark qualities. donald trump puts them right out in front. they're clearly men, both of them, who have no problem lying. nixon would lie about only big issues. for example, during the '68 campaign saying i have a secret plan to resolve vietnam and then later when he clearly sabotaged lyndon johnson's peace efforts denying that. during watergate he of course said i knew nothing about the watergate cover-up until my white house counsel, john dean, told me on march 21st. that was an out rarageous lie. so he stuck to the big issues. donald trump, they're just endless. just before the election, a canadian newspaper had a study of 28 days they had followed everything that trump had said during that day. they found that he was making an average of 20 lies a day. little issues, big issues, important issues, unimportant issues. there was just nothing that he wouldn't dissemble on. he's a serial liar. and tha

maybe that's one of the reasons he was kept off a trail in nixon's campaign. nixon said it was because of your grandfather's health but when your grandfather gets on the trail in and it turns the tide of that campaign to the point we found kennedy talking about it and he says every day that eisenhower is on the trail i feel like i'm standing on a pile of sand and the waves coming in and then syncing. i was thinking, and they believed if he was out a few more days that nixon might have won that election. >> host: that's actually one of the big controversies, isn't it about why nixon used eisenhower and the eisenhower family. there was some discussion whether ike was asked. but you know it's unusual for a vice president to be elected, isn't it? >> guest: well, it is. if you look back in history vice president gore did something similar with no clinton. obviously they were different circumstances and he was trying to distance himself from all the controversy but at the same time clinton was a great campaigner. the same kind of deal if you look back in history. pe

pass, that just sort of exploded. >> reporter: nixon says the state's economic growth could come to a standstill if the u.s. were to significantly rollback nafta. >> the people who say we should stop these trade agreements, that would be the beginning of the end for us. and we'll push. texas cannot survive without mexico; it's our largest trading partner. it would put texas in a recession immediately, and it would frankly destroy laredo, texas. we would not exist without trade. >> reporter: with views like that, it might surprise you to learn that nixon was the texas finance chairman for the trump presidential campaign. >> nafta has been a terrible deal, a total disaster for the united states from its inception. >> reporter: nixon has tried to tell mr. trump, in his opinion, why rolling back nafta could do more harm than good. >> my message to the trump administration is... i've been saying all along is, reach out to people who really live and understand the complications of trade and how they affect the lives of everyday americans and what it does to our nation and our economy. thi

a year later, nixon was gone.n the middle of the non-stop decade of protests of the 1960s, the decade when martin luther king jr. and the civil rights protesters eventually joined protesters, the protests seemed hopeless to the people that never seem v participated in the protests. but the protesters succeeded in give getting this civil right and voting bill passed and eventually the war in vietnam ended. the american news media was not filled with predictions of the protests future successes. in the middle of that decade of protest, bob dylan wrote "something is happening here and you don't know what it is." if you talked to anyone of the millions of people who protested on saturday, they will tell you that something is happening again. with the xfinity tv app, anything with a screen is a tv. stream 130 live channels, plus 40,000 on demand tv shows and movies, all on the go. you can even download from your x1 dvr and watch it offline. only xfinity gives you more to stream to any screen. download the xfinity tv ap

nixon fired someone that he had hired who was investigating nixon's role in the watergate scandal. and rather than cooperate with cox, nixon fired him because he didn't want the investigation to happen at all. this is a completely, utterly different scenario. we're talking apples to oranges here. let's look at the case of yates. she's an obama appointee, and president trump fired her because she refused to enforce an executive order that he put in place. in other words, she's refusing to uphold the law. joining me right now, the host of media buzz on the fox news channel, howie kurtz. howie, we have so much to talk about. you know, first, i want to let the viewer know in case they don't, you were actually a former justice department reporter -- >> true. trish: so you've got some cred here. what do you make of all these comparisons to nixon right now that the left is evoking? >> well, i predicted this. i happened to be on tucker carlson's show just minutes after the news broke about the firing of the acting attorney general, and i said on the air, okay, people who don't like this pr

five times more than protested against the nixon inauguration. brian, 125,000 is the estimate in boston alone. that is bigger than what we saw than what we saw against richard nixon 45 years ago. and the surprise here shouldn't be very great. richard nixon was the last president to provoke any significant inauguration protest. yesterday, we inaugurated the most unpopular president on inauguration day in the history of polling, including richard nixon. and so the idea that that would provoke a rather significant demonstration was predictable, especially if you'd been in touch with any of the people i've been in touch with over the last month, where every day i was hearing new anecdotal reports about people who were going, including people, brian, who have not taken to the streets in a march since vietnam war protest. and there's a very -- there's a powerful historic element of that today in washington, d.c. john kerry in his first day of unemployment in his adult life was marching, was seen marching, photographed marching in washington, d.c., in t

it's like a slave plantation, basically. >> nixon is serving 15 years for third degree murder.robbery and battery with a deadly weapon. but he's had plenty of trouble inside prison, as well. >> marcus young has approximately 25 disciplinary reports in his history. disorderly conduct. theft. disobeying orders. fighting. possession of weapons. possession of narcotics. assault or an attempted assault on inmates. lewd and lascivious exhibition, telephone violations. several spoken threats. >> nixon has also seen his share of trouble. >> i came here for a ride, the whole, it was a big ride and they emergency transfer everybody to this unit. the officers kept on just bugging us about oh, you won't do this. you won't do that. y'all scared. y'all kids. and they just always mess with us. so everybody got tired of it and we just tore up the dorm. >> in confinement, the men have little to do when they're not working on the labor squad. but young hopes his new book will open a door to his future. >> i just wanted -- one of the first books i ever read right here on the stock market. about i

that's a provocative argument. >> rose: worse than nixon in terms of corruption but will get away with it. what kind of corruption? >> he points to his business entanglements and the alleged ties with russia, but his arguments is any one of these scandals in waiting that's kind of following trump into office, any one of these could kind of blow up on him, and he still doesn't see a scenario where it's so bad he will be forced out of office. it's hard for him to envision in this environment any revelation explosive enough to force apt out of office. >> rose: he said a lot of bold things but he promised to be bold. if he's going to be bold and i raised this question last night, in fact, what might he do if he wanted to be not just in foreign policy but in foreign policy and domestic policy a kind of nixon goes to china? >> i watched your interesting program last night and, you know, you had a fabulous panel on and nobody really had a great answer to that. you know, maybe smarter people than me like you -- >> rose: let me rephrase it. what can donald trump do that he can uniquely do becau

it, and nixon fired him. so i just -- it's deja vu all over again. there's some differences in the circumstances, but it's disturbing that this executive order which was so poorly planned, was so ill conceived, was to cruel and so inhumane that it has sparked in our nation and in our justice department a revulsion against its inhumanity in its own constitutionality, and i believe it is. it does have a clear priority of one religion over another. that is simply not allowed in our constitution. >> the legal action now being taken by your state, part of the legal argument, you need to prove the executive order is doing harm to washington state. what's your argument there? >> well, it's doing harm, obviously, to the individuals involved. i consoled an american citizen, a wife of a man who's cousins of boeing engineer. her husband had a visa. vetted ready to go. he flew and then donald trump would not let him go the last six feet to embrace his wife who's an american citizen. they went him back to vienna. the indi

i remember the damage that richard nixon did. and if that other guy, i don't want to say his name, if that other guy gets -- is president and hillary isn't president, don't think that black lives matter and the other progressive movements in this country will not be decimated in the same way that nixon decimated the panthers and that's the important reason that we have to unite behind hillary this time, because that's the choice. and then if she don't do what we do, well, we will protest her. >> we will still protest. >> but we got to stop that -- i can't even say his name. you know who i'm talking about. we got to stop him from being in the white house because you know. exactly. >> we only have time, a few more minutes left in this conversation. we want to open it up for questions to be answered. we have the microphone here. we will ask people to raise their hand and the microphone will come to you, okay? please be brief, brother. >> sure. i'm sorry. hi. thank you, bobby and stephen, for being here today. i think one of the prob