richard nixon could not walk over pat nixon. think that both drew them together and, at times, i think it pushed them apart. but there are some similarities in their characters. they both have strong character. >> they both came from backgrounds in which there had been problems. nixon had a brother who died. past parents died. i think they both have a sense of tragedy in their lives. i would add ambition. they both wanted things. pat was not going to be happy staying. she wanted to see the world. i think she saw that, that this would not be something -- she was not going to have to stay where she was. >> this is something that, as you think about first ladies, particularly modern first ladies, they are very driven, ambitious, who, in some ways, have moved beyond -- they are pioneers for women in their era. they decide to submerge their own ambition. >> i think that is true to a certain extent. i also think she also sees him as, because they share ambition, and they will go places, i do not think she sees it as, she is giving up

and then they recommended senator nixon. but that story always seemed to me to be a little insincere. it seems to me there was more to that than met the eye. i think general eisenhower and president eisenhower was very good at appearing less involved than he actually was, and it always seemed to me this is an occasion where he had made the choice but he wanted the responsibility to fall on the staff, and so since we have people here who are intimately involved with the eisenhower and nixon families, i wonder what they can say about this appointment or this nomination of senator nixon for vice president. >> host: thank you, john. professor smith. >> many years ago i had an interview with herbert brownell, ran eisenhower's presidential campaign. in that interview he said, that evening after ike won the nomination in chicago, he and lucious clay and the general were having dinner at the blackstone hotel, and mr. brownell said, so i asked the general, general, whom do you want to be your vice presidential candidate? and he said

i think in part she felt badly for the country but even more she felt badly for pat nixon and the nixon family who were good friends. he had never aspired to the presidency and she was more reluctant of going and she didn't find out until about a week before it happened. >> among the video pieces you'll see tonight are some clips with the ford family children. the first one up is steve ford. we talked to him a year ago at a conference on first ladies and we'll include some of the pieces of that interview tonight. as we begin tonight is on the family's transition in august from their home in virginia and the vice president si to the white house. let's listen. >> mrs. ford has hoped you would get out of politics. what is her reaction to the heavy response 1234b89 >> she's doing her best and we'll wait and see about the other. >> first of all, you have to remember after dad got swoorn in, the day nixon resigned and everybody remembers the image of nixon's helicopter and him saying good buy to his staff and family and friend. helicopter leaves. we go into the east room of the white house wh

it goes back to the nixon pardon. the same time that the dad gave a nixon the pardon or offered the pardon, he did the same for the people who went to canada. he stood in front of the veterans of foreign wars and gave the speech. and he knew he was not going to get an applause. this whole thing was about grace and mercy. if you cannot make grace and mercy that broad and big, we are not trying to show a nation. it was about bringing draft avoiders home. things like that. years later, it was recognized as the healing of the nation. mom played a role in that she was your average housewife that ended up in the white house. she spoke about that. people appreciated that. administrations before that were more formal. they were a package. great buttons for the campaign in 1976 that told you how popular she was -- jerry's wife, betty's husband for president. she was more popular than him at the time. >> last question. she did his concession speech. that is historical. how is history going to view your mom? >> she gave the spee

crowley on fox, richard nixon. he would hire young people, them.t a lot of time in so it was a terrific boss. and it's after the fall. in t's -- you know, isolation in san clement. came on staff after frank gannon and diane sawyer. todd and i came on staff. o help them with the real war in leaders. he's an amazing guy. he led a life. sawyer role did diane play in those days? >> not there the same time she feels. principal the research editorial assistant. frank gannon was the principal of the chapters that richard was uninterested in the memoirs. you had to write a chapter on venezuela, frank is an incredibly prolific writer and talent. he and nixon were the lead on our end. great book. and diane sawyer and sam were those two. to >> was there a moment around richard nixon you had that you never talked about? told this story a couple of times but i never told it on air. my mom and dad came to when they were both alive. 1978. called over and said can i bring minute parents by to meet you. a big deal. dad was a small

they loathed lincoln the way the media loathed nixon. so, nixon's a very special case.edia was after him because of his communist activities and made mistakes they went crazy going after him and a way that's not imagined now. i mean, it would be -- it can't even -- the hostility was unimaginable. >> but let's talk about the fact that, you know, now that you have got obama who's doing these drone strikes and, you know, killing american citizens without due process and all of the thing that is he's done, contrary, hypocrisy, 7 million people lost their insurance or bumped from their plans. it's estimated 75 million will lose their, you know, employer insurance. i mean, will this change, ben? does he have such a halo over his head that he's safe from everything? >> he has a halo over his head from the people who count. he has a halo over his head from the mainstream powers in the media, mainstream powers in hollywood, mainstream powers on wall street. he has a halo over his head from the shining thought police who run this country. they will not let him sink to really low

nixon is cleared off his desk.ple don't remember we didn't get to move to the white house because nixon -- we lived in our own little home in virginia, a little four bedroom house, and cush ya, and because nixon resigned so quickly unexpectedly. they left their daughter and son-in-law to pack up. it took seven or eight days. we went back to our little house in virginia, dad since become president of the united. [laughter] and we're eating dinner around the table. i'll never forget mom was cooking dinner that night and looks at my dad and said, jerry, something is wrong here. you just became president of the united states and i'm still cooking. that have our reality for the next eight days before we moved to the white house. >> when they transitioned to the white house, it was the basic american normal family that got so much coverage. i remember news report of the president toasting his own -- >> well, the famous picture. the fact is mrs. ford was never a morning person. i suspect he had been toasting his own engli

did, although nixon, you know, mr. forces, but kennedy, what you know about him as an anti-communist and not one to lose, would he have also gone and jumped into southeast asia with both feet? >> guest: i examine that question at length because i have great interest in it. here is my conclusion. kennedy deserves part of the blame for vietnam. you cannot exonerate him. put a lot of advisers and some troops in there. exactly. he started the trend, but here is why i believe he never would have done what johnson did. johnson put 535,000 troops in vietnam. first of all, if there is one word that describes president kennedy in office it is cautious second, you always look to a politician's base. you know this well. what was kennedy space, intellectuals, universities, colleges. the very first. strong opposition to dramatically increase. very skeptical in 5960. aren't they? he said he was not comfortable with the liberals and the democratic party. but they adopted him once he was in office. he had a really established that lin

obama being worse than nixon and to say it badly is a function of it being president obama. the man or the president or even the party or is it a function of the times is this is this how badly nine eleven has changed america we saw the bush administration reacted. you know you could say yes to a lot of your options but i think the last one. is the most important we're in a nine eleven. post nine eleven syndrome still you know my goodness sometimes does that happen but no one wants to take a stab that could be. construed later as giving some scope to terrorists who have their. act and do something like nine eleven because you then get blamed for being too generous with respect let's say the press with respect to eavesdropping. if you don't take a hard line and then there's another nine eleven you get blamed for not taking the hardline so the hard line. attitude is what's driving obama i believe yeah although that didn't happen to the bush administration i mean dick cheney was put in charge of the counterterrorism task force when they became when he became vice president they

nixon's death i remember stephen ambrose who had written a biography of him had expressed amazement at the genuine outpouring of emotion. nixon had regained, at least among some people, some of the admiration for the very things you talked about. 50 years from now, if it is indeed the china century, will the first line of richard then's historical opus be only president forced to resign, or the president who opened china to the world? host: in twitter -- guest: let me see. andrew johnson, who succeeded abraham lincoln, was impeached.

in the way that lbj did and the nixon did, although nixon, you know, mr. forces, but kennedy, what you know about him as an anti-communist and not one to lose, would he have also gone and jumped into southeast asia with both feet? >> guest: i examine that question at length because i have great interest in it. here is my conclusion. kennedy deserves part of the blame for vietnam. you cannot exonerate him. put a lot of advisers and some troops in there. exactly. he started the trend, but here is why i believe he never would have done what johnson did. johnson put 535,000 troops in vietnam. first of all, if there is one word that describes president kennedy in office it is cautious second, you always look to a politician's base. you know this well. what was kennedy space,

nixon people won't write books about it. we will tell a few stories about it, but that is up to julie and tricia if they want to write the book. he had a fascinating post- presidency, in the way that w is having a fascinating post- presidency. though clinton is doing it different from any other president. eisenhower lived quietly. nixon was in disgrace and then he slowly emerged and played a world role. bill clinton never stopped being president. it is fascinating. he may be back in the white house again. father wrote a piece for "fortune" magazine, how to be an ex-president. he has followed the rules exactly. disappear, raise a lot of money for people, and be good to the folks who were good for you. >> back to the radio show you did. what got you interested in radio, and how did you get a national three-hour a day talk show? >> i am the luckiest guy in broadcast, because i was giving press conferences at the nixon library and the program director a kfi in los angeles had reporter who said, this kid, i was 32, was pretty goo

nixon cruelly. this hurt her ear it should not have, but it did. she should have considered the source. they said, why did she not make speeches? it shows she does not have a mind of her own. she knows you do not have two voice is out of the white house. she had ideas she expressed privately. another thing that shows, the critics, what they would not understand or appreciate at all, she was self-assured and self- confident. she did not have such a big ego that she had to go out and prove she had a career in her own right. what was important to her was the career of her husband. >> we hear a lot of criticism by the former president that much of pat nixon's perception problems were non-friendly media. >> that is not surprising. that is how he viewed his own

would that he'll be worse than nixon i think he's given a nixon a pretty good battle anyway but that was my major point now is since then in the last ten days the justice department is floated a statement in which says that may not prosecute and i like to think my book had some influence on that decision but who knows i agree and i'm wondering if you think. obama being worse than nixon and to say it badly is a function of it being president obama at the man or the president or even the party or is it a function of the times is this is this how badly nine eleven has changed america we saw the bush administration go reactive. you know you could say yes to a lot of your options but i think the last one. is the most important we're in a nine eleven. post nine eleven syndrome still you know my goodness sometimes does that happen but no one wants to take a stab that could be construed later and is giving some scope to terrorists with their. act and do something like nine eleven because you then get blamed for being too generous with respect let's say the press with respect to eavesdropping

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nixon not only did not overcome that, he was out of office. lou: thank you very much.u believe that it is fixable? >> not at this point. to have forgiven the website, but not this. lou: thank you. thank you for being with us. thank you for being with us. good night from new york. ♪ i've always tried to give it my best shot. these days i'm living with a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat, not caused by a heart valve problem. at first, i took warfarin, but i wondered, "uld i up my game?" my doctor told me about eliquis. and three important reasons to take eliquis instead. one, in a clinical trial, eliquis was proven to reduce the risk of stroke better than warfarin. two, eliquis had less major bleeding than warfan. and three... unlike warrin, there's no routinblood testing. [ male announcer ] don't stop taking eliquis unless your doctor tells you to, as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke. eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. don't take eliquis ifyou have an artificial heart valve abnormal bleing. while tak

and the previous nixon/ford administration. the u.s. sort of to -- carter come in to office they start on a more permanent character. initially, initially, the administration isn't quite sure what to do about the deficit. they think it's a more situational more temporary phenomena. they think it's a result of excessive -- not excessive but high price we're paying for imported oil. they also think it's a result of the fact that the united states is recovered relatively better from this recession in the mid '70s and the trading partners. meaning we were -- what should we do about it? initially the lessons were we shouldn't really do anything. we don't want to make it seem like it's a problem. it will work i.t. out as congress passes the energy package. as economies abroad start buying more of our stuff. and this is a problem that will vently sort i.t. out. but of course, it was not a problem that sort itself out. and as 1977, 1978, the administration begins to see that persistence of the trade deficit is having important implications abro

bearing in mind as the americans died under nixon as did other jobs and. -- johnson. so my colleague wrote the best and the brightest at the wrong place at the wrong time and i did not necessarily agree with him that but i do now but even the extended effort could have forestalled the ultimate dash a list victory which would have meant the us a promise a of vietnam's at that time. that is the best i can do in the allotted time. >> we will wrap it up. >> we will be hitting around for a little while. [applause] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> jfk and the senate halfway through the president say. with the 50th anniversary of the kennedy assassination , was it a benefit to publish your book at this time or did it hurt? >> it was a mixed blessing of course, there was a tidal wave of interest but yet it's there was an avalanche of books for. it was almost a very crowded field parker the perfect world that may have come down at a different time but the book is ready to go and the publisher wanted to go now. with kennedy he seems to be interesting battl

mckinley was assassinated, and nixon was forced to resign. obama will be just the 14th president to have served eight years when he gets through his second term. but it's the second term curse. would we be sitting here talking in this way about kennedy if he had had a second term? i doubt it. he would have been a significant president but he would have also run into difficulty. what would you do about vietnam? it would depend the usual second term difficulties in the sense he was a lame duck. obama is struggling now i think it's no secret to say that, and i think kennedy would've struggled, too, in a second term. of course, we will never know. this is all pure speculation but kennedy of course games -- comes down to us now, it's an open book. you can write anything on it you want because he was martyred, killed at the age of 46, only 1000 days in the white house. he would've found he had a sense of the ironic. he would've found, had seen the irony in the fact that his early death date him this enduring hold on the public. and it's fascinating

three, neither of them particularly cared for reagan or nixon. nixon, of course, was also on the plane. >> on the plane. >> and so maybe a little mean girls action there. they weren't really into richard nixon. neither cared for ronald reagan, who had asked them to go. so, they did bond. in fact, at the ford funeral, jimmy carter noted that he and gerald ford worked together on 25 different projects. by the end of just that flight, they had already agreed to appear at one another's library. so, it really seems to be one of these rare moments where two people who never normally would socialize are forced into a situation where they have to and it turns out they get along swimmingly. >> fascinating to see if anything comes from this particular flight. jake tapper in washington for us tonight, thank you. >> thanks, brooke. >>> the nsa and this new revelation from that seemingly endless stream of leaks left behind by edward snowden. this one makes spycraft sound more like a game than real life when, in fact, it is a game featuring these guys. goblins

his name was richard nixon. [laughter] so one morning arthur gets up, and he's looking out the kitchen window, and he sees nixon in a business suit out getting the paper. [laughter] and he goes off to teach for the day, arthur does, and he's having a book party that night. and so the first person he sees when he returns to his home is one of the guests at the book party, alger hiss, to which arthur wrote: ah, the circularity of american history. >> right, that's right. [laughter] >> tom's going to find a lahr letter. >> yeah. i'm about to get there. [laughter] >> he's got this call of duty with dan can rather. -- dan rather. [laughter] when you look at liberalism right now, you look at -- it's under assault from every possible way, every possible view, it's not a word you can really use anymore. we're being very unfashionable, we're being very retro. >> i think the word is now becoming available to the people. >> you think so? >> look at the bellagio in new york. >> that's true. >> and we can have a meeting like

lou: and more port timing for the addinistration coming after the post nixon comparison.dent obama himself today praised the fictional congressman frank underwood from hbo's hit show house of cards, a congressman and manipulates his way to vice-president see by shady deals, lies demand ultimately murder. [laughter] >> i agree with kevin spacey. lou: our first guest voted in favor of the ryan-murphy compromise. he says without agreement we would face another government shut down and stresses that the deal eases the burden cost. joining us now a member of the budget committee as well as armed services committee. good to have you with us. i know that you and many of your colleagues in the house, particularly those whose style yourselves as conservatives russell mightily with how to vote on this. what was the deciding -- the deciding point for you in casting your vote? >> well, thank you for the opportunity to talk about the critical topic for our country. the alternatives before us were this. five voted no we would have that continued, continuing resolutions where we find th

even at that time nixon had regained, among some people, some of the aberration -- admiration for the you talked about. -- if this ism heeed the china century, will either be saying is the president who resigned, or a president who opened china to the world. --t: in twitter guest: let me see. johnson, who succeeded abraham lincoln was impeached. clinton,on -- bill there was talk about impeaching both john tyler was a one term, that is it. from let's go to our old indianapolis, indianapoli. -- to our caller. good morning. i have been a firm democrat all my life, and i just feel we was looking more at obama when he first got in office, and the way livingpeople the cost of raise, and did things out of character for a democratic president. he let a lot of people down, you do not promise things you cannot deliver. as a president, you do not go you can go back in history, and find presidents did what they said they're going to do, and a lot of people may be down on their common -- on them, but they did not hurt anybody. there are a lot of people very upset with obama, and i feel his rater a

that was essentially the beginning of the end for richard nixon. by the way, it was during his fifth year that this happened. >> good evening, spiro agnew became a citizen today, he was convicted of the charge of tax evasion. >> having your vice president resign and then get criminally convicted on the same day, having that be number seven or eight of your list of problems of president, now, that is the definition of a bad fifth year in office for a president. apparently not quite as bad as the fifth year that president obama is having, at least according to a certain strain of conventional wisdom. look, there is no doubt this has been a disappointing year for the president. he failed to get a background check bill, immigration reform, stalled ever since it was in the house. there was the whole government shutdown, the botched health care law. there is also a question of how at the end of the year, the country will interpret all of this. was it just a failure of the president, and the republicans? that is a question that has not yet been answered a

nixon carried -- they wanted things to carry on as normally as possible.ut his first one? nixon continued to hold cabinet meetings and wanted the country to see that everything was moving along as it should be because when the first announcement came of eisenhower's heart attack, the stock market plummeted, there was almost a panic, and to show people they were on an even keel, nixon stepped in. >> despite this, eisenhower made the decision to seek re- election, and we have a very brief clip in the 1956 campaign ads looking again how mamie appealed to women during the 1956 election. >> so much of our future rests with the women of our country. they are the homemakers, the whole family unit revolves around them. everything that affects the family's welfare affects them first and everything in the family's life benefits from their influence. they do the family buying and seeing that everyone in the family circle is well clothed and well fed. they are the custodian of its values and aspirations for the future and it is in their hands that lies the training of

bearing in mind that as many americans died under the administration of president nixon add diss under president johnson -- as did under president johnson. so, you know, early on david hall bear stamm, my colleague, wrote in "the best and the brightest" this was the wrong war at the wrong place at the wrong time. and i didn't necessarily agree with him then, but i agree with him now. and i doubt that even an extended, continued american effort could have fore stalled an ultimate nationalist victory and a nationalist victory in vietnam would have meant the supremacy of the major force in vietnam at that time and today, which was the communist party. >> okay. best i can do in the allotted time. >> peter, not bad. >> thank you, peter. so i think we're going to wrap it up. i'd like to thank you all for coming this evening, and we'll be hanging around for a little while to have a chat if anybody wants to talk informally. thank you. >> thank you all. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> we'd like to hear from you. tweet us your feedback, twitter.com/booktv. >> host: we're here at the nati

of richard nixon.cal figure, a character, as a person, but you don't know if any of it is true. it is a worked on nixon i an tell you that we were really scrupulous about it. we recognize the importance of the historical character. richard nixon is on a different level than "argo". these are wonderful movies. >> it depends on the story that you are telling. i think there is -- the bar is different. >> what about you? >> all the president's men. you can't think of anybody beth better. you imagine that washington is going to be just like that. it is not. you know we love to run across it or a watergate scenario. but that was a movie that got me interested and wanting to come and being a reporter. >> and take down the next president. >> haven't done that quite yet. >> i'm going to wear my santa hat. >> we talk about this post wa r watergate media culture. there is a certain strain of reporter. but what made all the president's men extraordinary is it doesn't happen every day. it happens once or twice in h

nixon republican arguably oh so i don't think you're going to nixon nixon created the e.p.a. he actually be the first but in general should be congress created obama live at home in nixon's republican party or ford's republican party arguably but i think the real issue here is that some progressives better working with big business of the clinton democrats at the top did republican strategies and i think it's very frustrating as a progress as the one of the progressives on this panel no you'll see obama thirty seconds for you yeah. i don't i'm not comfortable with the t.p. but in general trade deals i don't think trade deals or a bad idea we have to be more competitive at home and figure out how to educate our young so that we can be more competitive why don't we do wear a limit you can in germany and china and taiwan and south korea are all doing which is have trade policies that make it harder for people to import and where you are happy to have trade fair grades and family policies and education policies that are better than ours and yes i'm afraid the president is a progr

marina von neuman whitman, former economic advisor to president nixon. overall system needed to be reformed and overhauled, and that in order to set the stage for that -- in order almost to get other countries' attention and force them to focus on the need to reform -- that step of closing the gold window, and thereby effectively ending the pegged-rate system, had to be taken. schoumacher: with no effective room to maneuver, nixon broke from bretton woods. i have directed secretary connally to suspend temporarily the convertibility of the dollar into gold or other reserve assets, except in amounts and conditions determined to be in the interest of monetary stability and in the best interest of the united states. 40 years after the historic conference here, economists and politicians still applaud the goals and the accomplishments of bretton woods. it was an historic undertaking to set up rules and procedures to promote world trade that would benefit all nations. many of the institutions and policies are still in service. but not the exchange rate system.

pat r president nixon or nixon and mrs. kennedy after she left the white house?thank you, again, for a great series. >> the relationship is better than one might think. appalling edy found the idea that she would have to return to the white house after 1963. she thought it would be much too painful. told the secret service agents in washington prior to the way i will never have to see the white house because it will make me i'll start crying again. andexception, 1970-'71, her j.f.k.'s portraits were painted by an artist. they were about to be displayed in the nixon white house. the nixons said why don't you come down and see them quietly. she felt she owed it to jfk to do that. so she brought her children. totally off of the record visit. they had dinner and she wrote to president nixon afterwards. had aid, a moment that i white house e dreaded turned out to be one of the most important days. n later years, not too happy with nixon. in watergate, came out the number of things that president tried to do to damage the reputation. > 1968, brother-in-law robert kenne

sixty eight saying we know that nixon is cutting a deal with the south the enemy's not to go to the bargaining table in paris because he had already cut a deal with the south it means he's going to end the vietnam war before the election we know that he says he says i'm reading their hand average this is treason and everett dirksen says yes it is and he says you got to tell him our ad and but it and then and then l.b.j. goes on to say we can't let the american people know about this average it will destroy their confidence in america back to use well what it what it does is it destroys the confidence in the republican and democratic party is that what the that's what they're most fearful about in we know that richard nixon cut the deal with the with the with the vietnamese we know the reagan bush administration in one thousand eighty cut the deal with the muslim brotherhood we know who. as in the meeting we know the meetings were in paris we know the meetings were in madrid we know all about that and when in fact anybody tried to raise that in any of the major news media etc for exa

what they're most fearful about in we know that richard nixon cut the deal with the with the vietnamese we know the reagan bush administration in one thousand nine hundred eighty cut the deal with the muslim brotherhood we know who was in the meeting we know the meetings were in paris we know the meetings were in madrid and we know all about that and when in fact anybody tried to raise that in any of the major news media etc for example in new york times it's not news that is fit to print it is not fit to print and so they will not reveal that because there is a there is a clique a kind of a governing elite in the united states i know because i ended up i ended up being i was i got the biggest scholarship ever warded to an american to go to harvard college and i came out of a blue crab blue collar setting my father was the first man in our family ever to graduate from high school and so i ended up getting to go to harvard and go to harvard law school where i was there with all these people from all of the major private schools in the private academies that came in there i see how they t

there's really no comparison, i think, between nixon and obama at this stage.nt obama's situation is roughly comparable to where president george w. bush was. >> surprising that george bush was ahead of him. he was 47%. >> i understand that. but i'm saying roughly comparable, megyn, i'm not saying they were the same. george w. bush was going through the nadir of the iraq war when things were at their worst and the public had turned against the war. there was no good news coming out of that. it was known then as the main initiative of his administration and it was failing. and it had the expected effect on his popularity, which was pretty severe. this similar situation with president obama. the main initiative of his administration, much more so than the economy, which was what people wanted to be his main initiative, was this obamacare. and of course it's beginning, and the effect of its policy so far has been disastrous. and we have seen a precipitous drop. i mean the striking thing about the obama ratings is how abru abruptly they have fallen and how far. >>

i'm talking in the 1960s. >> well, in the 1960s, the republican party was dominated by richard nixon who wrote in his memoirs that during the 1960 presidential debate, kennedy successfully convinced tens of millions of viewers that he was to the right of me on communism in cuba. >> all right. >> could you give us a definition of liberal and conservative then? maybe the same today. and the real question is liberal then, conservative today. >> yeah. well, that's a hard question for another book by some political scientist. i mean, i write in the beginning of the book that there is an article in some political science journal that went on for about 25 pages on the question of defining what a liberal meant and a conservative meant -- or, no, what was liberalism in the 1950s. political science quarterly. and the author finally punted. above all, we must resist the temptation to reduce 1950s liberalism to a simple idea. there's a similar article by alan brinkley, the columbia professor, about conservativism in the '60s. he pointed out that conservativism includes many ideas that often -- i

and so whereas nixon of course would not take that corrective course obama now has an opportunity in light of this court decision in light of this the recommendations of this panel to change course to propose legislation to see. import legislation there's already been some legislation of the been proposed some of it should be supported others shouldn't but to put forth legislation to support legislation that will demand more accountability and so we may learn more we may need to continue to revise the sorts of changes that we need to make but at the very least we are now taking a step in the right direction and recognizing yes that balance between national security and our rights as citizens is has gone completely out of whack to the point where we now need to correct that to stop giving away so much power to the n.s.a. and put in place mechanisms whether it's through the the courts whether to the n.s.a. the n.s.a. process whether it's under the patriot act that demand more accountability so i think it already i mean for when it went right around to go to miami and he had a lot of wo

nixon had regained, at least among some people, some of the admiration for the very things you talked about. 50 years from now, if it is indeed the china century, will the first line of richard then's historical opus be only president forced to resign, or the president who opened china to the world? host: in twitter -- guest: let me see. andrew johnson, who succeeded abraham lincoln, was impeached. bill clinton, there was talk about impeaching both john tyler , who was over in one term, succeeded to the presidency as well. that is it. host: let's go to our caller from indianapolis, indiana. on outline for democrats. you are on with richard norton smith. caller: good morning. my name is earl gordon. good morning. i have been a firm democrat all my life, and i just feel we was looking more at obama when he first got in office, and the way he cut people on disability with the cost of living raise, and a lot of things that are uncharacteristic for a democratic president. he let a lot of people down, you do not promise things you cannot deliver. he did have a chance to deliver. as a presid

where i visited china with richard nixon it is opening to china i was part of that delegation. it was a deeply repressed country poverty was pandemic it was a dreary as dreary a places i've ever seen and i think globalization is in large part responsible for the enormous build up of china the fact that there's widespread wealth in china there's enormous production it is grown it ten percent twelve percent eight percent a year for twenty twenty five years that's a good thing my concern about globalization is the american economy america was the most productive nation in the world a tremendous manufacturing power when i ran for president in one thousand nine hundred two i said if we go into these trade treaties and free trade policies the united states will lose its manufacturing base it will disappear it will be exported and that's exactly what's happened in the first decade of the twenty first century. fifty thousand american factories disappeared and six million manufacturing jobs disappeared one in every three we had so i think when you had an economy as advanced as the unite