he dismissed the norquist pledge and basically declared grover norquist to be a net four other republicans to brush away. joe scarborough said in a fight that jeb bush's republican party, one that values compromise over conflict is the party of the future. we are already seeing glimpses of that future on the republican side. and thank god. among republicans in that room, there is talk of tax pledges and shared desire to solve our nation's big challenge. the republican house is still far from getting its act together. about to pass a major farm bill. this is the latest breakthrough. with each of these accomplishments, we are building up a reserve of trust and goodwill that will help during the big picture of negotiations at the end of the year. grover norquist is the problem around here and bipartisanship in the senate is the solution. >> we have witnessed bipartisan agreement is possible. i'm joining senator mclean shortly -- senator mccain shortly to see that all aspects of sequestration -- it calls for an amendment not only to the defense department, but the painful cuts to education and

he dismissed the norquist pledge. and basically declared grover norquist to be a gnat that other republicans should just brush away. joe scarborough said in a fight between jeb bush and grover norquist quote, jeb bush's republican party one that values compromise over conflict is quote, the party of the future. so we're already seeing glimpses of that future on the republican side. and thank god. this week many of us joined another of those bipartisan fiscal briefings that our friends mark warner and lamar alexander have been organizing. among republicans in that room there is talk of tax pledges, and a shared desire to solve our nation's big challenges. the republican house is still far from getting its act together, but they're a good bipartisan vibes all around the senate these days. we're about to pass a major farm bill. this is just the latest big breakthrough after a highway bill, postal reform, violence against women act and the fda bill with each of these accomplishments, we're building up a reserve of trust a

i was calling on the norquist thing. i noticed that i wouldn't take the pledge, but i know what the problem is it's not the -- it's not the taxes causing the problem, we have a regulation here. and one the biggest coal companies is 750 people. he pledged that he would shut the coal mines down and i believe other business who he was going to shut down that he thought was putting out the emotion. and he's running the country. too much regulations. we need to get a new president. if we don't, the country is going to be in bad shape. it's not the taxes. it's them shutting everybody down. with the pipeline, he don't want no jobs. host: let's try alabama next. arab or arab? >> caller: arab. host: thank you. caller: on the northwest pledge, i would like to be able to understand this myself. he's asking the representative to make the pledge to the constituents which is us. i also want to say this, if we raise taxes on the wealthy, many of them own corporations. and all you are going to do, folks, is raise your prices. the rich j

the republican party going after those legislators who support multimillionaire lobbyist grover norquist tax pledge that bush's comments signal a change coming in the republican party one that could mean the end of the tea party and you've heard me say night after night that if america is going to get back on the right track it's going to take serious tax reform and reasonable taxes on people like mitt romney who pays less on his millions than cop a cops pay on their normal salaries well believe it or not there's one tax that i just can't stand i'll tell you why and it's believed. in the best of the rest of the news of the bush tax cuts set to expire on december thirty first republicans and democrats are drawing up their game plans first there is senator jeff merkley who is telling his fellow democrats in congress not to budge letting the bush tax cuts expire at the end of the year for the wealthiest two percent of americans in an interview with t.p.m. senator merkley said i've encouraged my team to realize that we have lotsa leverage on this this is not a situation where you go to the t

vote against it realizing they may be cornered multimillionaire lobbyist an anti-tax master grover norquist warner republicans that if they let the bush tax cuts expire that he don't call it a violation of his no tax increases pledge so at the end of the year republicans will have a choice they get out of their oath to the constitution or they can honor their oath to lobbyist grover norquist but this tax showdown at the end of the year may not be just about taxes could have a lot to do with the future of the republican party and whether or not the no compromise hard right wing of the republican party may be losing its influence as more established republicans speak out against it take for example a former florida governor jeb bush said this week at a speech in new york ronald reagan would have based on his record of finding accommodation finding some degree of common ground as would my dad they would have had a hard time if you really if you define the republican party as having an orthodoxy that doesn't allow for disagreement doesn't allow for finding some common ground and here was joe sc

grover norquist sat down with republican leaders and here. right now.r, what did you tell them? >>guest: well, we had a conversation about how the taxpayer protection pledge will help tax reform next year. the most important thing the pledge does is it, a candidate makes a written commitment to the american people, not to me, not to americans for tax reform, but to the american people, that they will oppose and vote against any effort to have a net tax increase. >>neil: does that include getting rid of allowantses and closing loopholes? >>guest: there is in wiggle room. no tax increase. no, getting rid of deductions and credits and reducing rates so that it is revenue neutral, lower rates, bradening base, that is fine. that is tax reform. >>neil: what if they close the loopholes now and address the serious reform next year? >>guest: well, that's the trap that harry reid and obama want. they want --. >>neil: all the guys yes-or-no? >>guest: if you eliminate deductions and credits and let the appropriators spend the money, two things go wrong, you spend a

he dismissed the norquist pledge and basically declared grover norquist to be a gnat that other republicans should just brush away. joseph r. perrault said in a fight between bush and norquist, jeb bush's republican party is the party of the future. we are seeing glimpses of that feature on the republican side, and thank god. this week we joint another one of those briefings that our friends mark warner and a more active alexander at an organization -- and lamar alexander been organizing. the republican house is still far from getting its act get there, there are good bipartisan abides all around the senate these days. we are about to pass a major farm bill. this is the latest breakthrough with each of these accomplishments, we are building up a reserve of trust and good will that will help during the big picture negotiations coming at the end of the year. "road to the white house" -- grover norquist is the problem and bipartisanship is the solution. >> a bipartisan agreement is possible. there'll be a bipartisan compromise that will make sure that congress gets reports on the impacts of al

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host: grover norquist.: you should not come to washington unprepared and think they are going to ask you questions about budgeting which i think jeb bush thought they were going to ask him about. he embarrassed himself by misspeaking. he was quoting harry reid's analysis. the taxpayer protection pledge was created about 25 years ago in order to make it possible for a candidate to say to the american people i am not going to raise your taxes and do it in a way that is believable. for thousands of years, candidates have been running for office asking for power and promising not to raise taxes. they tend to break their word once they get elected. by having it in writing, the pledge is a simple commitment. the pledge is to the american people, the people of your state. rick scott, the successful governor of florida, signed the pledge to the people of florida. not to me or the americans for tax reform. the pledge is a simple commitment to the people of the united states or florida that when i run into a problem,

we need to get rid of grover norquist and do what we need to do to get rid of grover norquist so there are politicians in washington watch debate between themselves and that guy. the chamber of commerce is the biggest lie in american life. the idea that they walk around like they speak for american business when they speak for 49 multinational corporations to underwrite 50% of their budget. it is not complicated, really. yet we call them derivatives. this is really about a small number of entitled rich dies and always a study one time that said extremely wealthy people study one of their common characteristics, well-educated or not well-educated or whatever and single only common characteristic was willingness to live where he is. think about that. >> i just want to say there is a small but significant victory you look at. [applause] >> operating completely under the radar and doing enough damage and continuing to do enormous damage but small groups of activists researchers have been documenting and they brought that stuff above water and we have actually seen -- we have seen a signifi

republicans want to give the working class in america a tax hike and surely that violates grover norquist x.-plane right that more in tonight's alone liberal rumble and yesterday republicans had a chance to protect american jobs and protect the working plus they chose not to why how come republicans hate the american worker. you need to know. the republican dissent into the fast and furious twilight zone continues today republican darrell ices house oversight committee voted to hold attorney general eric holder in contempt of congress for not turning over d.o.j. documents related to the fast and furious program that vote comes on the heels of the white house asserting executive privilege over those same documents that ice is demanding a move that president george w. bush employed six times and president clinton used fourteen times fast and furious was a program started by the bush administration recently named wide receiver centered on selling guns in mexico and then tracking those guns up to the high level drug cartels ultimately the program was abandoned after an american border patrol

of course, republicans poubsed pounlsed, including grover norquist who called the remarks foolish andarre. jeb bush came out on twitter to say i want to clarify. he said the point i was making is this. the political system today is hyper partisan. both sides are at fault. you know what, general, come on this show. we agree. john, let's -- i guess start with this. how big of a split is there in the gop between jeb bush and governor quist? bush recently also saying i'm not a guy to be on board with that anti tax pledge? >> it's fascinating these are the two faces of the split within the gop right now. jeb bush versus grover norquist and seeing a growing number starting to question the wisdom of the anti tax pledge. and when jeb bush says his father, ronald reagan, might not have been welcomed in the current republican party, that's not a matter of opinion, that's a matter of litmus test. you can check down the box. it would be true for goldwater, too. it is a real challenge when a guy like jeb bush is saying we've gone too far and folks try to rino hunt him out of the party. >> if you h

. >>> coming up, it's bush versus grover norquist. norquist attacked jeb bush for suggesting that ronald reagan wouldn't be welcome in today's republican party. >>> and in the "rewrite" tonight, the crazy pastor in florida who wanted to burn the koran has now hung president obama in effigy. but another southern pastor defends president obama's position on marriage equality. >>> and later, you already know how to get to carnegie hall, right? practice, practice, practice. tonight, right here in our los angeles studio, we have the man who can tell you how to win an oscar. and we'll learn why the people who could never have won their oscars without their help have never, ever thanked them in their acceptance speeches. that's coming up. got moved back. [ crowd chatters and groans ] ♪ [ male announcer ] hunger getting to you? ♪ grab a ritz crackerfuls. made with real cheese and whole grain. get hunger before it gets you. >>> one of the bush boys is now in a fight with the owner of the republican party, grover norquist. we'll find out whose

grover norquist, americans tax reform, a pledge signed by virtually every republican in the house whichs you will not support any net new tax increases. if you need emergency short term spending because your economy is going down the tank again, you risk grover norquist and his people campaigning against you. why is that acceptable in our dynamic economy and our democracy? why can't we tell people stop with the pledges. go in there and make the necessary deals that have to be done. i'm not asking you as a conservative. liberals and conservatives need to do this. move on this. >> the reason i think guys like grover put that pledge out there and politicians follow that pledge is because where i started this. the historical perspective is you give a dollar to the government and it finds a dollar to place in spending. it finds a way to spend that dollar. grover, i would assume, i don't want to speak for him, we have to cut off the spending of government. you are right. it doesn't allow for emergencies. we've arrived at two emergencies you point out, one is the fiscal cliff and the other is

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welcome to the show, joan. >> thanks, michael. >> is grover norquist engaging in some revisionist history here, joan, that really misses the point of what we clearly saw reagan doing? >> well, yeah, of course he is. of course he wants to claim reagan for this party that he's created that has brought the country to the brink of a debt crisis and continues to mire the country in a terrible recession, michael. he needs to say, ronald reagan wanted that. ronald reagan would have endorsed that. but i think it's actually more interesting to look at what jeb bush is doing because while he's declaring his independence from grover norquist and his party, he's also delivering a kind of vote of no confidence in mitt romney even though he's endorsed him. because i see that as -- it is a bizarre statement for someone if you think -- it's not something you say if you think your party is headed to a great win in november. it's really the kind of thing you hear the morning after an election where you've done very badly. i really wonder what's up with that. >> he's already anticipating a potential loss of

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agree with the grover norquist pledge. >> so i ran for office three times. the pledge was presented to me three times. i never signed the pledge. i cut taxes every year i was governor. i don't believe you outsource your principles and convictions to people. i respect grover's political involvement. he has it every right to do it, but i never signed any pledge. >> thank you, governor. >> thank you very much. governor, good to see you. thank you for being here. and just if i may, thank you for being here not only as a representative of a family with an extraordinarily remarkable record of public service to this country in every way but being here as a person with considerable accomplishments of your own and certainly with the ability to speak for yourself, not for every other member of your family. so thanks for being here. >> can i say that my brother sends his warm regards to congressman waxman. >> well, i'm sure he does. and i'm sure he does it from a great distance, too. but i appreciate your brother's class frankly since he's left office as well and the m

they hit rich people like mitt romney grover norquist and the koch brothers but paul ryan plan as well as mitt romney's tax plan which also includes a tax cut for billionaires also explains why so many millionaires and billionaires like foster freeze the koch brothers shelley adelson are willing to spend millions to hundreds of millions of dollars to get round me and the republicans elected in november these are actual campaign contributions. there in the past it's a pretty simple premise if i'm a billionaire like shelly adelson or a wall street guy who are in a billion dollars a year and there are a bunch of them who literally bring home that much money every year and i know that if mitt romney and the republicans win i'm going to get a twelve percent tax cut why would i invest in there cause a twelve percent tax cut on a billion dollars is one hundred twenty million dollars that you get to keep in your pocket. that he's willing to invest one hundred million dollars on getting romney and the republicans elected so if his investment works out and his income next year is a billion dolla

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grover norquist defends anti-tax pledge on capitol hill.loomberg, schumer and norquist trade blame for impasse. and the los angeles times above that. grover norquist meets with house gop to reinforce anti-tax pledge. if you're not really sure, you've heard grover norquist's name and this tax pledge, let's show you the language of it. this is what it says and that candidates are asked to pledge. i, insert your name, pledge to the taxpayers of my state and to the american people that i will: one, oppose any and all efforts to increase the marginal income tax rate for individuals and businesses; and, two, oppose any net reduction or elimination -- if we can continue -- of -- i've missed page here -- elimination of deductions and credits unless matched dollar for dollar by further reducing tax rates. sorry, took a while for that page to catch up with me. oppose elimination and deduction of credits unless matched dollar for dollar by further reduction, reducing tax rates. according to americans for tax reform, 2378 representatives and 41 senator

i really hope that what they are agreeing to do is violate the so-called grover norquist pledge, which would be absolutely necessary to putting together a balanced approach. that's what we need to do. >> just to make sure i understand where you're coming from, to try to see if there's really common ground, when you say additional revenue, would you be saying, look, we keep a tax rate where we have two levels or three levels, progressive, but close loopholes so the wealthier end up paying more. i'm not looking for additional new taxes that i'm going to introduce on anybody. is that a place that you would compromise? >> well, there could be additional taxes with respect to folks who were at the higher end under that proposal. if you look at simpson-bowles, depending on where your deductions are, you would see additional revenue. for example, under the buffett rule, which the president has proposed, you would generate additional revenue from people over a million dollars. if you also look at some of the international corporate tax loopholes, you can also generate additional revenue. that'

deal we're going to have these automatic cuts now there's going to be the automatic cuts grover norquistis all freaked out lindsey because lindsey graham is talking about raising taxes so what do we do how how how our why are republicans willing to raise taxes to keep the war machine going but not willing to raise taxes for food stamps i think it's a glimpse into their morality i would say here you have forty nine million people in poverty fifty million people without health insurance you have economic crisis in america but we will not raise taxes help these people however at the fence contractors in virginia want to build unnecessary jet plane engines then for sure let's raise taxes to make sure the defense contractors get their corporate vote on a gun doesn't want two thousand and nine two thousand and ten you guys have super majorities in both houses and the white house and you didn't address those problems so if as serious as you claim they are they didn't get addressed then i'm not going to take responsibility and i don't believe the republicans ought to take responsibility for what

be distancing themselves from the pledge for no tax increases from grover norquist. do you see any movement in the republican party on the issue of whether you call it taxes or revenues? that's going to play a big role at the end of the year. are the republicans now willing to reconsider increased revenues as a part of a broader deal? >> i do not think the american people are interested in increasing taxes on the american people or businesses to chase ever-increasing spending. it does not make any sense at all. the fact of the matter is that the tax policy, the spending policy, in this town are driving this country to bankruptcy. we've got a $15 trillion debt right now. this president has amassed $1 trillion plus deficit each of the last four years. you look at his plan for america, it continues to increase. he cannot continue that. we passed a budget -- twice now -- that would get us on a path to balancing the budget and paying off our debt. we did sell a closing the loopholes. many of the loopholes we believe are appropriate to end by bringing down the rates of tax

grover norquist, will be on with neil cavuto later.end the interview to him and see what he has to say about it. >> thanks very much, jenna. jenna: thank you. >> my pleasure. rick: coming up, there are some new polls out on the presidential race and it may add up to trouble for the president's re-election team. how many americans think the country is he had heading in the wrong direction? that's a very key question. we'll have those results for you. >>> alec baldwin getting a little feisty on the streets of new york. now finding himself at the center of a criminal investigation. accused of punching a news photographer. coming up our legal panel weighs in. are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement or annuity over 10 or even 20 years? call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today. >> you've probably heard a lot about reverse mortgages lately and frankly, it may all seem just a little confusing. and if you're anything like me, you want to have all the