st. louis area. this time it happened in st. louis city. north st. louis. two officers who reportedly fired shots at the young man in this case, they were from the st. louis municipal police t department, so city police. it's not the same police force involved in the michael brown shooting or in the police response to the michael brown protests in ferguson. but in this incident today, again, took place about four miles from where michael brown was killed, the young man that was killed today was said to have been 23 years old. he has not been formally identified by the police. police said that he was armed when police killed him. they said he was armed with a knife and, in fact, brandishing a knife and that's why these two police officers shot him and killed him in the street. the shooting reportedly happened at 12:20 p.m. local time. that would be 1:20 east coast time. less than 90 minutes after the shooting happened, the chief of the st. louis city police was on the scene of that shooting to give a statement about what had happened. the police chief basical

this whole area from north st. louis into north st. louis county is -- there's not like some border fence. it's just a series of neighborhoods next to each other. >> that's really surprising that you would have a local official publicly calling out the nearby two and a half mile away police force as inadequate and not representing the community. i would imagine that's going to create tension between the neighboring police units. >> well, yes, sorry to be clear, that was not the police chief it was alderman antonio french, the police chief would never say something like that. >> to be clear, an important clarification, but he was -- he said this at the police presser? >> he was next to the police and it was after police said said this to group, to urge calm and tell them they had channels to vent their frustration. the thing you've got to realize, this whole area is -- the tension is so thick. we have 200 people on the street here. people talk a lot about -- i've seen the last few days, media is driving this or not. people are showing up

st. louis area. this time it happened in north st. louis inside the st. louis city limits, again, four miles from where mike brown was the shot a week and a half ago. today, this time it was two officers who reportedly fired shots at this young man. they were from the st. louis municipal police department, that's city police, not the same police force involved in the michael brown shooting or police response to the michael brown protests. but in this incident today, the young man who was killed is said to have been 23 years old. he was african-american. he's not been formally identified by the police. unlike michael brown, police say that the man who was killed today, that he -- police say he was armed. they say he was armed with a knife. he allegedly brandished that knife at officers and that's why these two police officers say they shot him. the shooting, fatal shooting, happened 12:20 local time. the chief of the st. louis city police was personally on the scene of that shooting to give a public statement about what had happened. >> in spite of what is

st. louis area. this time it happened in north st. louis inside the st. louis city limits, again, four miles from where mike brown was the shot a week and a half ago. today, this time it was two officers who reportedly fired shots at this young man. they were from the st. louis municipal police tee apartmedep that's city police, not the same police force involved in the michael brown shooting or police response to the michael brown protests. but in this incident today, the young man who was killed is said to have been 23 years old. he was african-american. he's not been formally identified by the police. unlike michael brown, police say that the man who was killed today, that he -- police say he was armed. they say he wases armed with a knife. he allegedly brandished that knife at officers and that's why these two police officers say sh they shot him. the shooting, fatal shooting, happened 12:20 local time. the chief of the st. louis city police was personally on the scene of that shooting to give a public statement about what had happened. >> in spite of

as blacks have migrated from north st. louis city to north st. uis county, unfortunately, there's been an institutional lag in their ability to elect people to positions of power. and that's why you see the big disconnect between the power structure in ferguson and the actual people. and there's also a big disconnect between the police force, as we know, which is just 6% black, and the people, which are 67% black. because the towns disproportionately rely on traffic stop revenue to fund their towns, they're constantly pulling over young black males. i used to get pulled over all the time in that area. for me, it was merely an inconvenience. formany young black males, it's a way of life. >> jeff, i want you to stick with us. i want to bring in "boston globe" reporter. the violent protesters who really are seeking to confront the police officers, as krystal mentioned early, 78 were arrested last night. some of them have been traveling from all over country just to be here. and these folks are the ones making it very difficult for everyone involved.

contrast that with the neighboring police department right over the city line from north st. louis in ferguson, where we are now 12 days into what has been a civic crisis of significant magnitude over the shooting of 18-year-old michael brown. the ferguson police department still has not released a police report from the shooting of michael brown. they did release a full police report and video and stills from what they admit is an unrelated incident in which the shooting victim, michael brown, they say, was implicated in a theft at a convenience store earlier in the day on the day police killed him. they released all of that, but no police report still to this day from the shooting of michael brown. they still have also not released the autopsy results from the county autopsy of michael brown. today, the ferguson police department turned down a request from nbc news to please see the personnel file of the officer who's been named as the shooter of michael brown. the only thing they would release is his name, the day he was hired and his salary. they would not release any other det

and so, white flight out of white north st. louis to north county. decades later, you get african-americans moving in to north county. >> this area was started as a place where a lot of whites, people from st. louis were moving to after school. >> there was a small city of ferguson associated with the railroad, but what made ferguson and florrison and other areas grow was that flight out of north st. louis. and there are two historical communities in north county, but the rest is historically white. >> you've seen a time in your lifetime, over north county change a lot. >> north county has changed dramatically. we've had a dramatic white flight out to st. charles, even lincoln and warren counties. and the african-american population in north county is much larger. >> so you've got the situation, you've got a place that's sort of in a period of demographic transition. and if you look at other places, the politics of that can be fraught on both ends. but we've been focusing on the grievances of the protesters, african-american community here in ferguso

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st. louis. i have heard very few people put st. louis in context. i remember being in north st. louis as a child and seeing white flight firsthand. i also remember being with my father once on a friday evening when there was some kind of disturbance on the north side and my father told me to get down below the dashboard because the police were letting the dogs go. host: host: when was this? caller: excuse me? host: host: when was this caller: this was in the '60s. my father, also, through our church tried to help an unincorporated community that had no sewers, no water lines that sat between two affluent if communities and had been on the under ground railroad. my father through our church helped to organize new houses and services, but i don't want to jump to conclusions, but when i try to explain to people where i am from and the racial situation now that i am in the northeast, people say to me, well, how could there not have been riots there? in north st. louis is one of the most desperate, lost places on the planet. host: host: frank next in lansing, tennessee. your thoughts?

st. louis county, north county. >> not just missouri. >> surely. yes. right.particular instant, there's this chasm of distrust and there's a lot of distrust of mr. mcculloch, whether that's fair or not, as a fact about how people feel about him. >> sure. >> given how high profile this has become, how high tensions are, why not just take that step to just ensure that you're going into the process with that, the level, with the community not already distrusting the process? >> first of all, you have a relatively big officer, fbi agents doing investigations. as i said before, you trust the pillars of democracy, and if they are vigorous and serious about their responsibilities, then -- in government, you try to support the processes in place in the situation. i'm confident that those folks are working real hard, but they are already, you know, moving forward in some manner and i think the best -- plus, i've got a limited role. i've got a lot to do here on the security side. this is very complicated and difficult. my two things i'm spending a tremendous amount of t

ferguson is no different than the many municipalities around ferguson in north st. louis county and really in my neighborhood in north st. louis city, we feel a lot of the same tension. i think that's why you see so many people coming to ferguson to show support for mike brown and his family. but also to stand in protest against police discrimination and police abuse. >> tell us about ferguson, where we're watching this footage. it's got a population of 21,000. that's mostly black population. 70% black. what are the racial dynamics like there? >> well, the racial dynamics, what i've heard on -- someone posted on facebook that ferguson could be very volatile racially. the racial dynamics there, people are tired of being racially profiled is what the dynamics are. >> and alderman, is there hard evidence at this point that that's what happened in obviously we have conflicting accounts. we want to be careful to note that. why is it that all these crowds of people feel so confident this is a case of racial profiling? >> well, you know, it's not just about mike brown. so what h

st. louis area. the police brutality. the failure of the public schools in the st. louis metropolitan area. the problems in north st. louis county. we have to focus on that. not let people come from out of town to incite their little revolution, to live out their little fantasy on the backs of dead black youth. we can't get suckered into that. you know, it's not a political issue. this is not a partisan issue. all the petty st. louis politics need put to the side. everyone needs to focus on the issue at hand which is mike brown, which is the constitutional issues we have here on the st. louis metro p l metropolitan area i've been talking about for years and writing about for years. no one is paying attention. north st. louis county isn't sexy, it's not glamorous. the problems are very real. >> and what is it that you think could help solve or help mitigate this anger, this injustice, this lack of transparency that many in the community feel. >> that's a good question. we have the fired up youth. many of these youth just sad, they're angered. you know, we have teenagers with bad credits and felonies already. they look

. >>> in north st. louiswo police officers from metro police fatally shot a man known in the community for having mental issues. he was wilding a knife after he took two bottles of an energy drink. a very different set of circumstances than the killing of unarmed teenager michael brown here in ferguson, the incident that has set off the nine days of protests and unrest. but amid the extraordinary tension, almost immediately angry people chanted hands up, don't shoot. the police chief went into the heated crowd after he talked to the press to talk to people face-to-face about what happened, what his account was, which really helped diffuse tensions. he doesn't represent that part of st. louis but was also there and urged the crowd to remain calm. also, that had a real effect in diffusing the situation. now, though, at this hour tonight, i am told the situation around that crime scene is very tense and joining me now by phone from the scene of today's shooting is umar lee. what are you seeing? >> i've seen abou

i've never -- that's in the north st. louis, north of the st. louis county and i just -- i'd be speculating to guess that you know in that neighborhood or that apartment complex there's tension. that would be a guess. >> what is the situation like out there tonight right now? >> i think that everybody is on edge. and you know the police department, you know we just -- we've been asking the people look, you know we understand the concerns of the community but as the st. louis county police department we've been asked to come in and do a job, the job is a thorough thorough investigation as we always would into any shooting and this happens to be apolice-involved shooting where someone perished and someone died. and so we're going to leave no stone unturned and do a thorough investigation and as we always say that takes time. we can't come in and call it at face value. we don't know what we have at this point. and we have to interview many, many people and it takes time. >> certainly understand, it is an ongoing investigation. brian shellman joining

afternoon today, police shot and killed a 23 year old robbery suspect not far from ferguson in north st. louis. police say the suspect was acting area rat klee and lurched at cops with a knife. that's when they opened fire killing him. meantime, protests last night over the shooting death of unarmed teenager michael brown once again turning violent. the federal government is ready to step up ferguson with attorney general eric holder heading there tomorrow. >> there is a process taking place right now. the president spoken about it. the attorney general is going there. i don't have any further comments. >> well tomorrow the attorney general will meet with the fbi and other authorities carrying out an independent federal investigation into brown' death. results from a private autopsy revealed yesterday he was shot six time. >> and here at home, the michael brown case drawing crowds into our streets. >> demonstrators in west philadelphia are demanding action. our dave kinchen joins us live where the recall system set to start. dave report roar it's actually starting right now, iain. we're here a

>> well, there's been a constant migration from north st. louis into st. louis county.a migration further out. people have left the city. many low-income families, single-parent families in search of better schools. of course, when they get out to the county they end up in school districts that are in some cases in worse condition than the city of st. louis. a couple of districts have lost accreditation in st. louis county. so the tax base just not there in a place like ferguson. ferguson's assessed value, that is the property taxes per capita in ferguson are one-third of the average for st. louis county. so the city of ferguson just doesn't have the resources to deliver the centers. >> but todd, part of this-- >> for foes looking for a better life. >> part of this is specific to areas and there are areas like this, like st. louis county, which is very fragmented. there are all sorts of manchestewhere they can consolidate some of these things and have a more flexible tax base. >> there are st. louis county outside of the city, and so you have this fragmented institution

another big story on our money radar today is the rioting we have seen in the last few days in north st. louis. in the county there, scenes like this have been playing out now for several days since the shooting death of a young african-american. today calm has returned, but we have a special report on the mill tarization of american police department. big money, big-ticket military items are showing up in police forces across the country. is it really necessary? or is it a waste of money. the minute by minute update on what's happening in the ukraine. >> indeed, ty, our top story does -- a russian military force. after that force reportedly crossed ukraine's border. ukraine's leader has told british prime minister that a significant portion of that russian force was destroyed. and we'll get you up to date like the s&p 500 and where it's sitting right now. right now the s&p is down about seven points, nasdaq down almost ten, the russell 200 is off about eight on the trading session. as for the yield on the ten-year note, here's where it's sitting now. the last trade right now is 2.33%. this is

o ferguson is in sort of north central st. louis county, north county as a whole has experienced sweeping demographic change over the course of the last 20 years. many of the listeners probably seen statistics showing ferguson's change, about 20 years ago it was about 3/4 white and now it's nearly 70% ack and that change is not atypical throughout north st. louis county. there's been a foreclosure epidemic in north county. a lot of the suburbs just to the south and east, particularly to the east of ferguson has really, really struggled over the last couple decades. it's an area ferguson proper doesn't look like most of what eople have seen. and it doesn't give a picture. most of ferguson is a single family, working class, sort of trapped homes, suburban style ranch houses, three bed, two bath, just sort of regular looking houses. there's a very affluent part of ferguson which is leafy, kind of turn of the century mansions. but the part we've been looking at is one of the proper parts of ferguson. i would say ferguson itself is a mic

he tweets, canceling all appearances at the missouri state fair to visit north st. louisbring in the president and director of naacp legal defense fund and msnbc contributor goldie taylor. something's got to give here. i can't imagine this situation continuing the way it is. >> well, there needs to be leadership. what's got to give is the failure of leaders, elected leaders to step up in that state. i remarked earlier, chris, that people are talking about the police. appropriately we're spending a lot of time talking about the police activity. should be explaining to them whether there was a curfew, why there's a curfew, whether they approve of the actions of the police and what they expect to unfold over the next few days. there has to be leadership. that is the only way we're going to have a break in what we've seen happening the last four days. >> is this a wake-up call for the st. louis metro area? >> i hope so. i hope this is a wake-up call. and to speak to the point of who should step in and who should do what, i think a little historical context is necessary. there

st. louis, north st. louis, fatally shot a man, they say wielding a knife after he took two bottles of energy drink from a convenience store. >> what we know right now is that we have a suspect who was involved in a theft, who was -- department was contacted. acting erratically. armed with a knife. police officers responded. when they responded, the suspect did not respond to verbal commands to drop his weapon. he approached both officers. and then when he closed within three to four feet of the knife, described in an overhand grip, the officers fired their weapon. >> area residents told me the man was known around the neighborhood for having mental issues, but despite those very different circumstances in that shooting from the one that took the life of mike brown, the situation is already so tense, so dire, so on the edge, that things did not take long to escalate. angry bystanders started to assemble, fwagather around a cr scene and take up a chant by now that is very familiar. >> don't shoot! >> hands

ferguson itself lying to the north of the city of st. louis. a bedroom community that actually sits in st. louis county, a collection of more than 90 municipalities. specifically in the part known to locals as north county, the northern part of st. louis county. like so many other urban areas, it is part of greater st. louis cut off from the city center by interstate highways. it's close neighbor, st. louis' international arment, a long typing center of aviation in the u.s. and despite what you might have thought based on tv pictures, ferguson is not an i am pov riched community. most of it is gent fieed with a wine bar, brew pub and fashth he remember market and other signs they want more. north county is proud of the naifsh son, want just cap pain johnson appointed by the governor last week to oversee security but people like maxine waters, michael mcdonald, the colorful comic actor, cedric the entertainer. they all hailed from in area, and being able to say you're from north county and st. louis defines who they are and gives us some backgrou

would be canceling all appearances at the missouri state fair tomorrow in order to instead visit north st. louis county. statement to follow. we eagerly await that. joining us now is a national reporter for "usa today." she was covering the protest tonight when police used teargas on them. thank you very much for being with us. i appreciate you taking the time. >> can you tell us what unfolded over the course of the evening, what the arc of the confrontation was like today that he witnessed. >> the confrontation tonight started a lot earlier than usual, around 6:00 -- probably around 5:00 police started setting up barricades where they were trying to stop people from going into certain areas. and then we had people starting to sit down and say they didn't want to leave, but then afterward, the mark of the protest came around 7:00 to it a club where i started hearing flash grenades kurt i felt the tear gas, even though i was at least a block away. i could feel the tear gas. i was coughing. it was a very tense scene that i was in. it started in the daylight and got that right when the sun was goin

policies, real estate practices, that created this sort of iron divide between african-american north st. louis south st. louis. , whiche is the arch shows the expansion of america. continue on that. what is the difference between st. louis and detroit, for example? >> one of the remarkable things about st. louis, which is playing out today, is it is remarkably fragmented metropolitan area. there are over 100 incorporated municipalities that have over the course of the last century coach the city of st. louis -- louis. the city of st. >> professor gordon, we are trying to understand how we got her in the first place. is it possible to actually point to specific policies, whether there are zoning policies or whatever that enabled this kind of effect of segregation to happen? i think there's really a chain of policies. st. louis is one of the few cities that tried early in the 20th century to his own property -- his own property but it was struck down by the supreme court. covenants was placed on deed and confine the african-american population closely to the north side of st. louis. the covenant

i grew up here, friends and family are there, and i know if you are black you live in north st. louis, if you are white you live in south st. louis on the west side of town. you can't have a city in 2014 that is so segregated, and have white police chief, mayor, people who are running the city and have the city african american. there has to be diversity, integration, and that way we have trust. i don't think we would see the tension that is erupting on the streets. >> thank you very much. >> stand by. ferguson is a small city. it's a suburban down to st louis, home to 21,000 people. it's at the center of a national debate about race and free speech. how did it get there. paul beban takes a look back. >> this begone saturday afternoon when 18-year-old michael brown and a friend were walking down the street in fergus ferguson. the details are in deputy. an encounter with a police officer ended in death by a police officer. crowds gathered. on sunday they were emotional while monitored by growing numbers much police officers in riot gear. looting broke out and 30 people were arrested. o

>> i would say that north st. louis county or st.ouis county in general is a collection of literally dozens of small townships like ferguson. ferguson, less than 15, 25 years ago was an all-white, small township. that's changed, and you're seeing the fabric of the community struggle through that change. >> yes, indeed. goldie taylor, thank you. we'll be looking for what you have to say on twitter as well as on the air. be sure to go to twitter, facebook, instagram, and msnbc.com to weigh in on this incident, the shooting of michael brown. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] aveeno® daily moisturizing lotion has active naturals® oat with five vital nutrients. [ aniston ] because beautiful skin goes with everything. aveeno®. naturally beautiful results™. aveeno®. hey pal? you ready? can you pick me up at 6:30? ah... (boy) i'm here! i'm here! (cop) too late. i was gone for five minutes! ugh! move it. you're killing me. you know what, dad? i'm good. (dad) it may be quite a while before he's ready, but our subaru legacy will be wait

. >> well, i will tell you this, that north st. louisy is comprised of dozens of small jurisdictions, tiny townships, 20,000 people or less. and that those tiny townships over the last 30 to 40 years were all white. but now those townships are increasingly more african-american as in ferguson's case, some 85%, but if you look at the arrest rate, if you look at the traffic stops, disproportionately, they are african-american. especially when you start to look at citations and arrests and outcomes. so you're starting to see some real tension begin to flare up between what's a fairly white leadership in terms of mayors and police chiefs and a black population and there's a bit of distrust from both sides. >> is there confidence among folks there, and i think i know the answer to this, but i will ask it, about there being a genuine and thorough investigation? i cannot say and be the arbiter of the disputing account between the man you just saw who said he was with michael when he was shot and the police. >> sure. >> if it is the case that wh

there is racial tension there as there is in much of north st. louis county, but most of the fergusons are middle-class community, and there are pockets of poverty and the pockets of poverty are the biggest concerns. that's where a lot of the police incidents happen, and those are the areas where the outbreaks have occurred. so it's a community that certainly has been changing over the years and we'll see how that continues to change. >> woodruff: jim salter with the associated press reporting from st. louis. thank you. >> thank you. >> ifill: a fast-talking space alien, a manic genie with a gift for improv, an inspirational teacher with a love of literature, and a blazing stand- up comedian, all just a handful of the roles that propelled robin williams into the entertainment stratosphere. jeffrey brown has our look at the work of the oscar-winning actor. >> brown: this afternoon the marin county sheriff's department said that robin williams had died by asphyxia by hanging. >> mr. williams' personal assistant became concerned at approximately 11:45 am

st louis county. there's st louis city and st louis county, and this is the north county area. the st louis country incorporates more than 90 municipalities. each one developed as their own area. as to the complexity, working together, and creating a unity of purpose. >> that is not something you understand unless you spend time here. i know you and your team got here yesterday picking up on the complexities of the area, and the dynamics. we are also, as we watched the night unfold. we believe it's been calm here in ferguson. we want to check in with robert ray to be sure of that, give us a sense of the mood and what is happening on the streets, quarter of a mile, half a mile from where we are. [ chants ] >> you know, as we talked about half hour ago, there has been about 150 more protesters coming up about the streets. still peace. but more people coming up to the streets. not everybody here in ferguson is demonstrating every night. earlier today we talked to a couple who lives a couple of blocks away. let's have a listen. >> reporter: the patch of pavement where michael brown

st. louis county. his folks grew up here in what they call north county. he talked about the fact that this area got the suburban instrument and it was a place where a lot of folks inside the city limits moved in the 1960s post brown when the schools were desegregat desegregated. there was a lot of desegregation and they moveed from north st. louis into st. louis county. that was kind of irish catholic working class pro-life, prolabor democrat. it's a political profile that goes back to reagan democrats. you find them in the south suburbs on the southside of chicago, illinois. that's what the area was and in the last 10 or 20 years, a lot of folks are moving into north county from the city also who are african-american. you have seen these towns go from being 20% or 30% african-american and transitions happen over 15 to 20 years. the establishment remains the same. it's the same folks who have heard there for two or three generations. that's why you have the strange racial disparity. you don't even have a school board that is all white. forget about the ci

ferguson lies to the north of the city of st louis, a bedroom community that sits in st louis county, a collection of more than 90 municipalities, and in the part known to locals a north county, the northern part of the st louis county. like other urban areas, it's part of greater st louis cut off from the city center by interstate highways much the close neighbour, the airport, a center of aviation in the u.s. despite what you might have thought based on tv pictures, ferguson is not an impoverished community, much is lower middle income. it has a brew pub, farmers market and signs that the community wants more. it is proud of native sons, not just captain johnson supported to oversee security, but congress woman, maxine waters, dubai brothers singer michael mcdonald, cedric, the entertainer. saying you are from north county and st louis defines who they are, and gives us some background into what this crisis is all about. another st louis native is attorney and commentators lisa boner, joining us to talk about st louis. i want to note that you live in new york, but you came back for

. >> well, i will tell you that north st. louisounty is prized of dozens of small jurisdictions, tiny townships, 20,000 people or less, and those tiny townships were all white and now they're increasingly more african-american, as in ferguson's case, some 85%, but if you look at the arrest rate, if you look at traffic stops, disproportionately they are african-american, especially when you start to look at citations and arrests and outcomes, so you're starting to see tensions flairing up between what seems to still be a fairly white leadership in terms of mayors and police chiefs, and a black population, and been distrust on both sides. >> is there confidence among folks there- -- i know the answer -- about there being a genuine and thorough investigation? obviously we -- i cannot say, i cannot be the arbiter of the disputing conditions between the man you saw who says he was with michael when he was shot, and the police. if it is the case that what happened happened in the way that witnesses have described it, it seems very frankl

north st. louis county isn't just ferguson. it's been burning for 30 years without no systemic redress to the problems in the community. we could use this to improve the community or we could use it to go in the other direction. >> one of the politicians i mentioned was alderman antonio french. he was arrested. i want to play to you what he said afterwards. listen to this. >> i think they rounded up anybody they could see. inside the jail is nothing but peacekeepers. they picked up the wrong people. it wasn't the trouble makers. it was peace makers. you have reverends in there, young people organizing the peace effort. they picked up the wrong people. >> ryan, do you agree with that? >> yes, sir. i don't know what the right and the wrong people is. i saw peaceful protesters that were spirited and enthusiastic. they were exercising their rights to assemble. you know, i was shocked to see the convoy roll up and make us all leave. that's why we didn't leave. we felt it was all right to sit on the sidewalk. freedom of assembly. >>

especially for communities out here in north st. louis county. you have a lot of cities that are largely african-american with largely white police forces. those white police officers are not even from the community. they come from other communities to police those neighborhoods. that creates a great deal of tension, especially among the young african-american men who are dispronorgs natalie the one who is are pulled over, arrested, charged and face abuse often. hopefully we are about to turn this moment into a movement and try to repair injustices and inequalities that occur in st. louis and hopefully across the country. >> i want to say quickly michael brown's father spoke eloquently at a peace rally last night. i want to play quickly what he said. >> tomorrow all i want is peace while my son is being laid to rest. please, please take a day of silence so we can lay our son to rest. please. that's all i ask. thank you. >> do you think the community will heed his appeal to remember his son in peace and to pursue justice but not do it with violenc

it happened at about 12:20 here in north st. louis.ess than three miles from ferguson where all the unrest has been happening. there has been a crowd formed here ever since. that crowd grew, became pretty sizeable. a lot of the people now have left. those who remain may be some of the angriest some night describe it a lot of the people out here very upset chants of no justice, no peace. the chants now are hands up, don't shoot, now hands up, shoot back is what you are hearing from some in this crowd. so police out here, they are kind of staying on the fringes, not the aggressive position you have seen in ferguson so far by st. louis city police here. different police force handling things she what happens here less than three miles from ferguson where all the unrest has been. >> and the violence and looting forcing many ferguson businesses to board up and close down. griff general since talked to one of the business owners whose windows were smashed in the rioting. >> i got a call sunday, 5:00, maybe in the morning from my alarm compan

i'll let mayor knowles speak for himself but my prayers go up for all in ferguson and north st. louis county to get peace and justice restored. we do not justice in america in the streets, though. we have legal processes that are set in motion, that are designed after centuries of anglo-american jurs prudence justice to protect the rights and liberties of everyone involved, including brown family and justice for them and the community and includes the officer not yet been charged. he could not be charged because the evidence has not yet been laid before the grand jury. the prosecutor in missouri by statute and under our criminal justice system has the option of charging himself, this is very different from many other states, he can charge on his own, what's called a prosecutor's information, or he can charge by taking the matter to a grand jury. to the prosecutor's credit, he announced several days ago, i'm taking this to the grand jury. that means the citizens of st. louis county impanelled in a grand jury tomorrow or the next day are going to begin to get this evidence laid before t

would be canceling all appearances at the missouri state fair tomorrow in order to instead visit north st. louis county. statement to follow. we eagerly await that. joining us now is a national reporter for "usa today." she was covering the protest tonight when police used teargas on them. thank you very much for being with us. i appreciate you taking the time. >> can you tell us what unfolded over the course of the evening, what the arc of the confrontation was like today that he witnessed. >> the confrontation tonight started a lot earlier than usual, around 6:00 -- probably around 5:00 police started setting up barricades where they were trying to stop people from going into certain areas. and then we had people starting to sit down and say they didn't want to leave, but then afterward, the mark of the protest came around 7:00 to it a club where i started hearing flash grenades kurt i felt the tear gas, even though i was at least a block away. i could feel the tear gas. i was coughing. it was a very tense scene that i was in. it started in the daylight and got that right when the sun was goin

it happened just afternoon in north st. louis. not that far from ferguson where crowds have been looting and protesting for more than a week. police say this afternoon's incident the suspect lunged toward officers with a knife. that's when they opened fire killing him. protesters could be hurt don't shoot hands up which has become the rallying cry after police officer killed michael brown in ferguson. and there are new developments in the on-going unrest in ferguson. there are now calls for protesters to come out during the day, not at night. a peaceful protest last night once again turned violent. even with the national guard there. officers used tear gas and smoke canisters to bring the situation under control. crowds have been in and uproar since the shooting death of unarmed teenager michael brown. lawyers for brown's family are demanding immediate charges be filed against the police officer who shot and killed their son. >> local demonstrators are now speaking up about the brown ca case. they are joining voices with people in

underlying concern in the community that there has been a long habit of police harassment in north st louis county, traffic stops, housing violations, particularly to gain revenue for municipalities with limited resources as the economy in the area has gone down. >> as i said the other night at the church, this feels a little like an old wound that has been hit again, and so the pain you feel is not just from the individual action, it feels like a little bit of a long-time simmering. and that, i think, is natural for all of us to see and to watch. i think that this - the challenges we face here go more deep. it doesn't show a lack of respect for any victims that suf, or the deaths that we -- suffer or the deaths that we have. the key is to get control, let voices be heard, protect property and dual processes and opening up and being free, showing less force in the front side. ultimately getting to the deeper problems. this is - these are, you know, deep and existing problems in missouri, but in america, and this has clearly touched a nerve, and that nerve is not merely from this horrific in

it happened outside a market in north st. louis. cops -- i don't know if that's county or city. cop says the store owner says he got into a fight with the man when he tried to rob him at knifepoint. the suspect would not drop his weapon, even after the cops arrived. he tried to attack police, and cops shot and killed him. this is from the city of st. louis, metro police department, not the county police, who have been involved in this case. how that is relevant to what is going on here is beyond me? but there you have it. >>> armored vehicles and military agreed weapons in ferguson. we've seen then. the pentagon has been shifting its surplus to local police departments and now the secretary of defense is looking into it. >>> plus, look at the tactics police are using to deal with demonstrators. we will. that's coming up on the fox news deck. and asked for less. there's a reason it's called an "all you can eat" buffet... and not a "have just a little" buffet. because what we all really want is more. now get our best ever pricing with the more everything plan. 1 gb of bonus data p

underlying concern in the the community here there has been a long habit of police harass independent north st. louisraffic stops, multiple housing violations, particularly to gain revenue for municipalities that have limited resources as the economy in this area has gone down? the church, this feels a lit69d like an old wound that has been hit again, and the -- so the pain you feel is not just from the individual action. it feels like a little bit of a long-team simmering -- long-time simmering and that is na,= i'm not involved in the investigative side. you'll see activity with potential flashing points. the wheat it's important now to make at shift in this and operationally. there's a lot to be done. but there are some checkpoints as we move forward that are going to be very emotional, that are going to be moments when folks may disagree or agree on the outcome. a lot of steps between here and the finish. two significant investigations going on at the same time. our goal here is to make sure operationally and systematically that we're getting peace and we're using this on that front to garner oppo

he tweets, canceling all appearances at the missouri state fair to visit north st. louismorrow. we want to bring in the president and director of naacp legal defense fund and msnbc contributor goldie taylor. something's got to give here. i can't imagine this situation continuing the way it is. >> well, there needs to be leadership. what's got to give is the failure of leaders, elected leaders to step up in that state. i remarked earlier, chris, that people are talking about the police. appropriately we're spending a lot of time talking about the police activity. people have been talking about what the federal government can do. those are both important questions. somewhere between the chief of police and the president of the united states our elected officials in ferguson in that county and in that state. i'm very gratified to hear governor nixon say that he will not be at the state fair tomorrow but that he intends to try and address this situation. i think that the local elected officials in ferguson who, by the way, are the bosses of the chief of police should be talki