. >> smith: and you think npr provides that? i mean, there are a lot of conservatives that think npr is just essentially a liberal plot. >> moyers: they do think that, but they still, according to the studies, listen to npr more than they would listen to any other medium at the moment. >> smith: they do. >> moyers: they probably listen to npr, those thoughtful conservatives, more than they listen to limbaugh and all of that. but public broadcasting is an alternative to the corporate view of the citizen as consumer. >> smith: yeah. >> moyers: now we are in trouble. our stations around the country are facing real financial austerity as well. >> smith: yeah. >> moyers: losing people, losing broadcasts and all of that. there is no guarantee that we are going to be around, and if we were that is still not enough because even our stations with inadequate budgets cannot cover, cannot report on what is happening in austin, travis county, central texas. >> smith: indeed. >> moyers: in a way a reporter can, working for you, on your websit

npr music, it's right there. your public radio network at your fingertips and right there for your ipad. >> we always love to hear the stories behind the song. >> exactly. that's what is so great about npr because they are rich with information. speaking of rich with information, don't forget you can download our nbc 4 iphone app for free so you can stay up to date on the latest news and weather while you're on the go. >> thanks, wendy. >>> when we come back, veronica tu gives aus look at the forecast. >>> a woman is attacked and it's caught on video. >>> why do people applaud when the stock market closes? that's the question. the answer is coming >>> veronica says the track of that snowstorm is trending south, but could that change? >> it could change, but even if it were to, i don't think this is going to be a big deal at all for sunday. or even monday morning. and monday is a holiday for us. so very, very mild temperatures around, not just tomorrow but also today. look at the temperature, 48 degrees now. 59 in

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the trades were uncovered by propublica and npr news. chris arnold of npr joins us. chris, welcome to "nbr." do you think it was a coordinated effort by freddie mac making it tough to refinance while profiting from higher interest rate mortgages? >> thanks, tom. well, i would not use the word "coordinated" necessarily. i mean, those two things you said were true. what our story showed was that on the one hand, freddie mac was making it harder for home owners to refinance their mortgages, making credit tighter. at the same time, the investment side of the company was going out into the market making leveraged bets that pay off if homeowners are unable to refinance. we were careful to say in the story we did not see any evidence that those two actions were coordinated, but they were going on. >> tom: right, and the trades we should point out, you also note, were legal. nothing illegal happened here. freddie mac, wasn't it just protecting its portfolio, like any other investor would do? >> right. these were not illegal trades. the difference here is that freddie mac is

i have to tell you the program you quoted me from yesterday on npr was a call in program. there were three vets who called in. i guess they weren't part of the e-mail or twitter campaign about the parade. because all of them said, we understand why it's best to wait. we understand that we would like to have oured by buddies back and more than anything we'd like this country to know when we come back here, it's not that we want a show. we want to be treated like part of the community. we want jobs. we want veterans off the streets. that's what our nation ought to be focusing on. >> none of those things are preclude by a parade, sir. i have to say, i realize that you have got -- you have a story to tell about what you want, but the question remains what harm would be caused by doing this? nobody else in the country sees any harm that would be done by doing this other than the pentagon. to the pentagon telling the largest group of iraq veterans this the country that they are wrong and the brass is right is stopping this from happening for the country and the country needs it

desire to make this information public, his initial comment that it is, quote, up to the people at npr to make that decision, end quote, it is unlikely we will ever see that report. the justice department has blocked the nw -- citing privacy laws and agencies guilty of misconduct. the attorney general ultimately oversees opr and if he wants that information made public he should order it released upon the conclusion of the vechlgts between the misconduct of the stevens case and the notorious operation fast and furious where the justice department knowingly gave guns to the mexican drug cartel which resulted in the death of a federal agent, it's easy to see why people have lost faith in the leader ship of the justice department. these public failures -- of a justice department where attorneys prosecuting a sitting u.s. senator under a republican administration systemically concealed, quote, significant x exexku79ory evidence -- a department where whistle blowers are sure to face retaliation from supervisors and then are forced into bureaucratic limbo to adjudicate their cases. a departm

the protesters cited exposis by the new york times and npr claiming that workers are working in horrible conditions. >> workers in one of the biggest factories in china are standing so long that their legs are swelling up. they are doing so many repepative motions with their hands that they are losing the use of their hands. >> apple officials in san francisco did not comment on the allegation. today was part of a global protest taking part in apple stores worldwide. >> a rare brain illness linked to mad cow disease may be showing up in marin county. the marin i. g. says that the patients showed up with something called kreutzfelt gentleman could be disease. one of the ways to contract the disease is eating the meat of a cow contaminated with mad dow did i sees. >>> the college of marin has been given a warning that it risks losing its accreditation. the report says that the college has failed to make improvements. that includes improving distance learning. the college is required to issue a followup report on its progress by october 1524. >>> san jose mayor chuck reed is preparing to de

there is a lot that has been said about juan williams and how he was fired by npr.ed to get -- [ inaudible ] taken off npr because he is worked for fox news? these people are character assassins. if you don't walk the straight and narrow with them, off with your head. they'll try to destroy your career. they tried it over again. how about this one, sean. think about this. we know the soldier story with rush limbaugh and how he was completely discredited and know how it was used to hend his career going after advertisers with an absolutely false story. it was so false and debunked his enemies on capitol hill had to issue a formal speech on the house to apologize. do you know that you can go on this group's website and the story is still there? >> sean: i don't dig that deep in to it. there are other aspects of this. it's interesting. it seems that there are, there are people on the left for example, i would imagine in the minds of the people writing the memos involved in the enemy's list, looking to destroy me and others, it's unthinkable i could be friends with bob

it's very important for the public to understand because many do not that news organizations, cnn, npr, the washington post, they have statements, ethics policies, things that are laid out for their employees. >> what the standard is is not entirely clear. you hire commentators to be opinionated. you like the fact that they're -- take a more recent example. another cnn contributor dana loche. should she be espned for saying that she would have urinated on the dead taliban army. she didn't say it on the air. she said it on a radio show, i believe. >> i'm not going to talk about whether she should or shouldn't have been suspended. it's a cnn policy. cnn gets to make those decisions that it's their news organization. however, i think the point needs to be made that if you are a public figure and you are tweeting things that the public could misconstrue as offensive, then it doesn't help the brand of cnn. it doesn't help the brand of fox for you to be on their program. >> as long as the news organization says that ahead of time, you can't make up the rules as you go along. >> look. i'm tol

we walk through the latest with npr's howard berkes. he's been covering this story since the accident. howard, welcome to you. so now we have this new state report. is the picture fairly clear on what happened that day? walk us through what we know. >> sure, the state report didn't really add much to what we already knew which was that this was a mine that was operated in a way that there was... ignoring of fundamental safety operations that safety procedures were flawed at that mine. that equipment didn't work properly and that the management of the mine was more oriented to production than safety. the state pretty much repeated what the early investigative reports have said, that this was caused by a methane ignition, that water sprayers were not functioning and fail to control methane gas. that there wasn't enough ventilation in the mine to control methane gas and that that coal dust that you mentioned, there was so much of it that a small... relatively small methane gas ignition exploded into this massive explosion that coursed thro

npr and washington times have been covering this story and gone through e-mails. you can link the information about the death of the agent to his, holder's office. there is nothing i've he seen so far that links it directly to holder. and that's what we're waiting for in this story. >> except for the chief of staff who says well, i briefed him on this and i passed the news on to him. who knows, holder will probably evade a perjury rap because it's kind of foggy and vague. look, i have to say the most poignant thing about this thing i've read aside from mrs. terry's commentary, michael hayden, a former cia director under president bush who said if only holder showed the same leniency to the ceo against who he's been prosecuting over water boarding. and holder holds himself, i can't remember, too bad for me and everybody else gets the hammer. >> and totally ignoring the other side of the story which the media is not covering, which is that holder was to the-- and secondly he may have been aware of fast and furious not aware of gun walking the fact that the guns were

>> pam fesler with npr. i have one question for each of you. first, laura. if so many people don't have id, we do keep hearing of cases and elections where it does not seem to be a problem. we just had the wisconsin primary this week by all reports, by all accounts. there were few, if any problems with the new id requirement. that's my question for you. and hans, if somebody -- the cases that we have seen of voter fraud often have been very organized. they're often by either one party or another or by election officials. if somebody is intent on committing voting fraud, why don't they just use fake id? we have fake id all around this country. these election officials aren't going to be able to determine what is or isn't fake id. my question to you is how is id really going the -- that requirement going to stop those efforts? >> the wisconsin vote only demonstrated those people who were able to get photo ids and come out and vote. it didn't demonstrate the people who did not have the resources to purchase a photo id or the resources to get one. so i don't thi

ecstatic and sad and sort of perfect ending to the long saga, and the sort of saga that ann powers on npre are approaching 4:00 here on the east coast, everyone, we are four hours into the coverage of the funeral of whitney houston, and

i got kicked off of npr. apparently i was a bad guy, called a bigot. >> some of the organizations, they monitor every word you say. they work at night and they go to, try to get rid of him, get rid of the column. they're a blacklisting organization. that's what they do. >> juan: pat is right. people are looking to vilify you. one of the ironies of my whole life is there are too many people on the left who apparently think gee, you shouldn't say that, you shouldn't be allowed to say that. >> kimberly: you're right. you're a total winner. you are here. for my one more thing on behalf of us at "the five" thank you and hearts are breaking here on the table, because megan albino, the line producer, there she is. today is her last day. she got a promotion and moving forward to another assignment. we wish her the best. >> greg: not me. i don't wish her the best. >> mberly: yeah.

. >> the fact that she worked for fox and i worked for the "new york times" and then at npr was never a problem. it was stylistic issues like how do we want to present this story? or is this story more important than that one? it's trying to mesh your two personalities into one narrative and it took a while how to do that. >> actually, we will be honest, it was a little bit of a strained process. but this is sort of like marriage counseling for us. we're doing this tour and -- but it is hard to write a book with your spouse. and it's hard to -- for two people writing the book and you have different ways of the stories. it wasn't the details the facts so much as just the voice. >> i've not read your book but, obviously, you make a wonderful duet. there's an image of war correspondents. it's very different than the two of you with your children. many other things have been written about hard drinking, chain smoking people sitting around the bar of the hotel. you know, i could ask you a million serious questions about your subject matter, but it's just curious to me, what did grandma say

she went on to become a reporter at npr and abc news and she also has been the head of the committee to protect journalist and i think it's fair to say that kati has been a major force behind her husband's accomplishments. they were married in 1995 at really the worst part of the balkan war back and one of the things i've written this book is that during the dayton peace accord meetings she was assigned to sit between slobodan milosevic and his bosnian counterpart, and hurt orders from holbrooke were make them talk to each other. and i gather that his wife was also given a similar mandate at a different tenor, i'm sorry, but i say? i'm sorry, stobe. they didn't change wives as far as i know. [laughter] in washington you never know but evidently they really didn't. sorry about that. yes. also, you may not know that richard also went to hillary clinton a little before this to get hurt your so she could draw attention to bosnia during her husband's administration so i just want to say that it did occur to me that when richard wanted to get things done he knew who to turn to, the women.

suggests that the kid of people who are the big winners are the people that drive volvos and listen to nprat's really not true. that's really not true. the big winners are much higher up the economic ladder. and again, by misdirecting us in that way, the book occludes an argument that it is important to have and conservatives need to join. >> let me ask you this, in your critique, your well researched and laid-out critique, you do seem to accept the picture that he paints of the difference between white america in 1960 and white america now in terms of the difference between the very rich and the works class. >> there's a lot of truth to that. now, it has to be stated more precisely. everyone who's worked with this material knows this. i wrote a book about the history of the 1970s 12 years ago that made a lot of these points. these changes are not -- this isn't news from the frontier. the question is why. what is different? what is happening? and one of the things i see in one of the pieces i wrote on "the daily beast" is this is a little bit like somebody pointing out, hey, it's a lot bet

. >> your interview on npr. and not interfere you talk about the problem with the experts and democrats reliance on experts. the july in that and also answer the question. >> that's a good question. it seems to me this is both the democrats, modern democratic strength as well as its achilles' heel as well as its expertise. and there's no individual where this is more clearly defined than barak obama. the man is produced by harvard at the university of chicago. of course that's what he is. he looks to academic expertise. you also look at the various state is indeed that the obama administration. most of them i agree with you they didn't go far enough or do things exactly the way it would've done them. yes we need a stimulus package in 2009. yes universal health insurance is a really good idea. the problem was that they would explain these things as things we needed because the experts said we needed to. the experts say we need to. and we know we need them because of the experience of the 1930s because of keynesia

according to npr, the employees called the home office to ask really and then when they said they nevere guy, they called the cops. he got through about three quarters of his cheeseburger when the police arrived. >> it's one of those situations, where if you are just confident about what you're doing, you can probably pull it off for a little while. >> he woalked in with the suit and briefcase. we're not expecting a new boss. >> file that under some people have just too much time on their hands. >> and finally, the moment you missed today. some nervous folks who run the oscars apparently urged sacha baron cohen now to show up sunday dressed as his new character, the dictator. seems the dictator wasn't happy about that. >> while i applaud the academy for taking away my right to free speech. i warn you that if you do not lift your sanctions and give me my tickets back by 12:00 p.m. su

do any of these ratings reflect the use of information not available to the nrsro alike moody's, as npr fitch? >> we generate our ratings off with disclose financial so we are not privy to additional information and we have no contact with management so we are not bouncing questions or ideas off of that so it was all publicly available. >> thank you chairman. >> mr. cantor i just want to follow up on things you said. to believe there's a reason that mf global went bankrupt because of the missing money? >> my understanding is like many financial services companies week -- they were seeking an acquisition partner and they were close to reaching agreement along those lines which fell apart when the customer money was missing. >> i recognize mr. posey from florida. >> thank you mr. chairman. just a few general accounting questions. of a company that your reading rating has a commodity account like exxonmobil is the value of the cash or treasury bills in the segregated customer account assumed to have full value? yes or no, each of you please. >> yes. >> yes. >> only one of you has an opinio

she went on to become a reporter at npr and abc news. she also has been the head of the committee to protect journalists. and i think it's fair to say that kati has been a major force behind her husband's accomplishments. they were married in 1995 at the really, though worst part of the balkan war. one of the things i read in this book is that during the dayton peace accord meetings, she was assigned to sit between slobodan milosevic and his bosnian counterpart, enter orders from holbrooke were make them talk to each other. and i gather that derek's wife was also given a similar mandate at a different dinner. i'm sorry, what did i say? i'm sorry, stroke, sir. they did not change wise. [laughter] as far as i know. you know, in washington you never know. [laughter] sorry about that. that brooks was assigned. and also you may not know that richard also went to hillary clinton a little before this to get her ears so she could draw attention to bosnia during her husband administration. so i just want to say that it did occur to me when richar

>> i happened to hear today your interview on npr, and in that interview you talked a bit about the problem of experts, and the democrats' reliance on experts. could you elaborate on that and also answer the, we if you don't have the answer, do you go to the amateurs? >> that's a good question. this is both the democrats -- the modern democratic party's strength and their achilles heels. the reference for experts. no individual where this is more clearly defined than barack obama. man produced by harvard and the university of chicago, and he looks to academic expertise. but you also look at the various statements and deeds the obama administration -- i should say most of them i agree with. they often didn't go far enough ump but yes we needed a systemus package in 2009. yes, universal halve insurance is is a good idea. the problem was they would explain these things as things that we needed because we -- the experts said we needed them. the experts say we need them. but that's not -- and we know we need them because of the experience of the 1930s, the keynesian economic theory and the decad

. >> brown: howard berkes of npr, thanks so much. >> thanks for having me. >> woodruff: again, the major developments of the day: republican presidential hopeful mitt romney accused rival rick santorum of compromising conservative principles and president obama hit back against the president also apologized for the burning of korans at a u.s. military base in afghanistan, but fresh violence erupted anyway. in one incident, an afghan soldier killed two american troops. and in iraq, a wave of bombings and shootings killed at least 55 people and wounded than 225 others. remember the story our science correspondent miles o'brien reported about internet voting? we have a follow-up online. kwame holman explains. kwame? >> holman: an election historian gives miles a tour of voting technology over the years. included is a ballot for george washington. that's our science thursday entry this week on our science page. plus, ahead of sunday's academy awards, we had a doctor examine the accuracy of health themes in this year's top films. that's on our health page. all that and more is on our web site