he's a member of the nra. he costs about the cost of the transition and who is going to bear the cost and watch the president's response. here is the question and the response. watch. >> you can't tell us how you're going to pay for this. you're saving here. you're saving over there. you're going to take a little money here, take a little money there, but you have no money. the only way you're going to get that money is to raise our taxes. you said you wouldn't. >> i would rather be giving that money to the young lady here who doesn't have health insurance than giving it to insurance companies who are making record profits. now, you may disagree. >> let's bring in chief white house correspondent chuck todd to talk about what we just saw in belgrade, montana. check, how do you score it? what's your interpretation of what happened in this town hall? >> reporter: well, i think there were a few things i think are worth pointing out. number one, in his opening remarks, if you noticed toward the tail end, it got a l

he was a member of the nra.hese overgrown juvenile delinquents who carry a gun to the town hall meetings are absolute idiots. it never occurred to them that they could have that gun taken away like somebody else -- by somebody else who is there and shoot up the whole place even if they will not do it? that is about it for me. by the way, i am for the public option. guest: i do not know what to say. i suppose anything anyone takes with them could be used against them. when you are playing the odds, if you wear a seatbelt and you were actually in an impact with another vehicle and you were hit on the driver's side, you are often better off not having your seat belt on. that is hardly an argument not to wear seat belts. you are playing the odds. if you are hit from the rear or the front, you are far better off with the seat belt on. yes, it could happen. yes, a gun could be taken away from somebody, but the odds are much higher than if you have a gun and god forbid the need arises for you to use that gun, you then

you know, the nra doesn't spend that much money.f you look at what the real numbers are, i think that we can pull together here and raise enough money. and incidentally in the past, i gave some, i did my share, but there were plenty of other people that did, as well. we can raise enough money and take on this issue and explain to congress this is an outrage. there's a federal law that says criminals can't have guns and we should enforce that law and get guns off the streets. nothing wrong with the second amendment. >> would you personally put more money in? >> i not only going to do that myself but ask plenty of other people to do it. if you want to beat the nra, you have to get your message out and that costs money. that's all we're trying to do. i don't think this was a victory for me in the thune amendment defeat, this this was a victory for america, this was a victory for all our police officers across the country who would have been more at risk with their lives if the lowest standards were applied to everybody, which is what t

host: what has the nra's reaction been to you? guest: their first reaction was that they would not comment on works of fiction, to which i quipped, i wonder if the internal revenue service or the federal election commission would be interested in learning that their returns are works of fiction. i do not think they are, but the leadership of nra cannot have it both ways. host: c-span did contact the nra. they did not return a request for comment. let's go to our first call. caller: good morning. i wanted to mention -- i'm 64 years old. in idaho, where i grew up, we went to the nra for safety training and all of that. i remember in those days that people who were involved in guns were not the same as they are now. the people who are interested in these things now are covered in fatigues and i have to say that they are scary. the way that they talk about guns is not the way that they used to talk about guns. it is somewhat frightening. when you take a look at a fellow who had his gun slapped to -- strapped to his leg during a presid

the nra came out with a strong statement about judge sotomayor. how much pressure does that put on some republicans? we talk a lot about the hispanics, but the nra in an unusual move which we all noticed. >> i think the nra was kind of the dog that didn't bark, or at least didn't bite after it barked. they weren't clear about whether they were going to count the vote, then said they'd sort of count it. despite the number of republicans -- then a number democrats as well who had perfect or near-perfect ratings from the nra. their threats on this nomination didn't really come through because we're not entirely clear on where she stands on second amendment rights. >> we appreciate you joining us and we are waiting for the president. he's going to speak shortly. up next, more coverage of this big day on capitol hill. >> we'll continue to look into the politics that played into today's vote and what it has to do with next year's mid-term election. >>> up next, live remarks from president obama on the first hispanic to be confirmed for the united states

>> guest: roosevelt was not, the nra, it was like a natural disaster.ll the old rules were off and there was disbelief and be will just get through this time. as in war and other writers have written quite a lot about that. so they said it will have to get rid of the emblem was led by general johnson. and you will have to get through even if we don't agree and i think incredible policy was it was not a war and the monetary events for mysterious. we know it was solvable and we have in the economy in a frozen while the less disruption and it would have righted itself sooner than were offered to appear in. >> host: one thing you mentioned mussolini german cartel system of the seven union. in subway inevitable because it was the american spears parts of the developing world at that time with the industrialized world and everybody has something like this and the rise of collectivism and the same action there is a recent book out the came out cold three new deals which write about mussolini and hitler and so and some way to the american experience wrapped up

he was a member of the nra. overgrown juvenile delinquents who carry a gun to the town hall meetings are absolute idiots. it never occurred to them that they could have that gun taken away like somebody else -- by somebody else who is there and shoot up the whole place even if they will not do it? that is about it for me. by the way, i am for the public option. guest: i do not know what to say. i suppose anything anyone takes with them could be used against them. when you are playing the odds, if you wear a seatbelt and you were actually in an impact with another vehicle and you were hit on the driver's side, you are often better off not having your seat belt on. that is hardly an argument not to wear seat belts. you are playing the odds. if you are hit from the rear or the front, you are far better off with the seat belt on. yes, it could happen. yes, a gun could be taken away from somebody, but the odds are much higher than if you have a gun and god forbid the need arises for you to use that gun, you then have

the person tested uask a questie said he was a member of the nra. are we to believe this was a real cross-section? >> i have been to montana, that is one of the most nra saturated states in america. people take their personal liberties very seriously there. even for someone to stand up and say that i am an nra member, this would normally rattle the roof. i bought that was very revealing. let's assume that it was totally on the up and up and very legitimate. there are still some things that the president said today that are not getting near the target. for example, he continues to use the phrase 47 million. that figure is nonsense. there are a number of people who are uninsured because they don't fill out the forms yet they already qualify for medicaid and medicare. there are 12 million illegal aliens, is the president for to pay for every illegal person? there are a number of people who could afford insurance but they choose not to have it because they would rather have a new track or go to dinner more often. let's be honest about the figure. if we

the aaa, the nra both major programs and disasters. i get some people -- and this is my final point -- i get some people who say, well, hmm, the new deal didn't get us out of the great depression, unemployment's still 20 percent, maybe it wasn't a step in the right direction, but it was well intentioned. were they people who cared about us? they wanted to do good. it just kind of went, it backfired. but they were well intentioned. i think we can look at these programs, and i think that's very important because you get this sometimes. we have massive spending, isn't this well intentioned? i think it was useful to take a look at this. i had a couple chapters on the main government spending agency which is the wpa, the works projects administration. the wpa received a huge federal grant, almost $35 billion. -- $5 billion. i mean, our national debt's only 20, 25 billion, so you're getting something that's a fifth of the entire national debt in the 1930s so go around and spend. roosevelt spent the must money n places where the election was

let's listen to his question right now. >> as you can see, i'm a proud nra member. i believe in our constitution. >> yeah. >> it's a very important thing. i also get my news from the cable networks, because i don't like the spin that comes from them other places. >> you have to be careful about those cable networks, though. go ahead. >> max baucus, our senator, has been locked up in a dark room for months now, trying to come up with money to pay for these programs. >> right. >> we keep getting the bull, that's all we get is bull. you can't tell us how you're going to pay for this. you're saving here. you're saving over there. you will take a little money here, take a little money, if there, but you have no money. the only way you're going to get that money is to raise our taxes. you said you wouldn't. max baucus doesn't. >> i'm happy to answer the question. >> thank you. >> look, you are absolutely right that i can't cover another 46 million people for free. >> chuck, what was the -- you talked to the guy who asked that question what was his dissatisfaction with the

let's listen to his question right now. >> okay. >> as you can see, i'm a proud nra member. i believe in our constitution and it's a very important thing. i also get my news from the cable networks because i don't like the spin that comes from them other places. >> you got to be careful about them cable networks though. that's okay. go on. >> max baucus, our senator, has been locked up in a dark room there for months now trying to come up with some money to pay for these programs, and we keep getting the bull. that's all we get is bull. you can't tell us how you're going to pay for this. you're saving here, you're saving over there, you're going to take a little money here, take a little money there, but you have no money. the only way you're going to get that money is to raise our taxes. you said you wouldn't. max baucus says he doesn't want to put a bill out that will, but that's the only way you can do that. >> well, i'm happy to answer the question. >> okay. thank you. >> look, you are absolutely right that i can't cover another 46 million people for free. >> chuck, what

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>> i think he did a good job yesterday, finding the guy with the nra jacket, trying to find a tough question. that's where this president excels. this president is better on his feet in this sort of setting than any politician on the national stage. we always hear about barack obama with the tell prompter. he does. he uses a tell prompter more than any president in the past. these big town hall meetings that we saw during the campaign were situations, events, where this guy does extremely well. he did it yesterday. he found the guy in the nra jacket and he asks the tough question about how can we afford to ensure americans. he was able to deflect the question and answer it in the way he thought worked. i think it did work politically. the new hampshire town hall meeting, it just -- the white house says it wasn't staged. at the same time, he is calling on 8-year-old girls asking, why are the signs so mean, mr. president? this was good. he needs to do this more. he needs to go to missouri where claire mccaskill is. she is a democrat, an important swing vote. he needs to go to nebraska where be

>> guest: the nra was public? >> host: the individual businesses and people didn't like that roosevelt, did he ever go through in terms of the extent they had surveys, was he ever unpopular? >> guest: roosevelt wasn't on popular especially in that period. the nra was like -- the depression was like a natural disaster. all old rules were off. you suspend disbelief as they say. and we will just get through this time as an war and other writers have written quite a bit about that, robert higgs for example. they said we have to get through and the emblem was the eagle and led by general johnson and we will have to get through even if it is it was not a war and the monetary event was mysterious but solvable. we know what was soluble now and we had the economy that allowed to function, with a little bit less disruption it. >> host: one thing, michaelene, the german cartel system, the soviet union, in some way was the new deal inevitable because it was the american experience was part of that least in the developed world

especially after the comment by the nra earlier today that they would downgrade the status of some of the senators if they, in fact, voted for so tie mtomayor because of her gun record. we will stay with this story and take a quick break and be right back with a soldier who just rer returned from iraq who is going to explain to us his dad's attitude. we want to share it with you. stay with us. we will be right back. >>> this week i promised i would focus on afghanistan an the country's mission there. i want to share with you the story of sergeant anthony lightfoot. his mother wanted me to tell her son's story. i have shown you part of it. so many of us have asked us to show this story again. you know what? okay, we will. in large measure because his mother is giving all of us the opportunity to see something this week that we have rarely been able to see over the last decade. here is a respectful look at the return of a soldier killed in action. there is an official military term for this process. this slow-motion removal of u.s. military caskets from an airplane. it is not a macho fi

and also, just because i'm an nra member doesn't mean that i'm not a good american citizen.are good people. we're concerned about our rights and only that. we're not -- we're not to be vilified and we're not bad people. >> one final question, randy. was it worth it, that huge effort you made, to get there to belgrade, montana, and get to ask the president a question? >> absolutely. way high on my list of chance of a lifetime opportunities. >> thanks, randy. thanks very much for coming in. thanks for coming to the town hall. you asked a good, serious, tough question, he gave a good answer. now we'll see if he lives up to it together. we appreciate it very much. >> thanks for having me. >> in our strategy session, was there a deal between the pharmaceutical industry and the white house? i asked the white house office on health reform communications director this question. soo, is part of the deal they would support this legislation, go forward with $150 million in advertising? >> you know, wolf, part of the agreement here is that we're all going to work together to bring compr

. >> mitch mcconnell, the republican leader, in a meeting with conservative groups, asked the nra if it was going to score this vote. it means it will be a key vote -- >> they already said there were going to do it. that >> is why they are going to do it, because he asked them. now you see states with big hispanic populations, people who were going to vote for her, now not going to vote for her. i in to be a guy this week who was one of the leaders of the -- i interviewed a guy this week was one of the leaders of peace and campaign for george bush and other republican candidates. -- the hispanic campaign for george bush and other republican candidates. when you combine this with the immigration stuff, the republican party is headed for minority status, a permanent minority status for the foreseeable future, if it does not do something to get back a significant portion of this fastest-growing group of voters in the country. >> oh, those awful republicans, scoring negative to flee on sotomayor. -- negatively on sotomayor. barack obama as a senator scored -- voted no on a john roberts,

said that the republicans ar whipping this hard, mitch mcconnell, e republicanenate leader, ked to the nra if they would score this vote. >> they alrey said they were going to do that. >> is why they e going to do it, because he asked them. they said, ok, we will do i now yo see state wit big hispanic populations, peoplwho were going toote for her who are nowot going tvote for her. i interviewed a guy this week who had been one of the leaders of t hispanic outreach for george bush a other republican ndidates. he said, "wean onl pray that people forge abo the sotomayovote, but when you combine this with the immigration staff, the republican party is headed f a minority status if it does not do something," it es not do sothing to get bk a signifant portion ofhis fastesgrowing groupf vots in the coury. >> are yshaking your head, charles? >> thosewful publicans, scing a vote on sotayor. baracobama as senator ted agait johnoberts, perhaps thmostexcellent candidate fo the gh court in 50 years. the reason was ideology he believes that ideogy is how you ought to but read it is perfectly reasonable

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the nra says judge sotomayor year in the case of the united states vs sanchez. it is a to them as an for case. in this case an illegal immigrant named jose sanchez was con dealing crack cocaine and and carrying a handgun in new york city. those are the facts of the case. a jury convicted on an appeal of the defendant arguing, the fans that to prohibit him from carrying a gun in york city by late in the second amendment. judge sotomayor and her colleagues unanimously rejected his arguments and appel that the conviction. the nra is apparently up said that judge sotomayor and her colleagues did not agree with their second amendment but in 2004 when this case was decided, the law had been cleared for 65 years. the supreme court had said in 1939 that the second amendment only related to malicious service and hundreds of judges all across our country had fallen to that decision for decades. with the nra have preferred and that a judge sotomayor rule against 65 years of civil law and establish precedent find that an undocumented friend dealer has a constitutional right

the nra will lower the rating of any senator that votes for her confirmation. >>> republican critics questioning sonia sotomayor's explanation of a statement made in 2001 saying a wise latino would make better decisions than a white male. >>> after unclear reports from iraq. three young americans have been arrested for illegally entering the country. >> some calling the 3 citizens spies. they were hiking weapon they crossed the border into acran. they say they're three tourists that stumbled into the wrong place at the wrong time. an investigation is underway. >>> iran tv call it a propaganda tool against the islamic states. >>> early sat morning, police observed an altercation and found an 18-year-old victim suffering from a fatal stab wound. using the cameras, they tracked the 18-year-old suspect and arrest him. the watch center is helping them to reduce crime and locate witnesses and suspects. >>> a former maryland state senate accuse of attacking a woman inside his office. he's charged with attempted rape. they heard a woman screaming for help and found him holding her down. >>>

she received the gold medal award from the nra.governor last week. >>> it's unclear when the sonia sotomayor vote will take place. >>> and it's one of the top men's tennis tournaments of the country and it's this week in washington. >> holly morris is joining us live with a preview. >> we're working on the serves. you got it? >> ready, let's go! >> see, it's, i made it in. you just have to do the grunt. hey, they're having a special morning this morning. they own the tournament. they're hitting back and forth with a professional player. michael russell is out with us and interacting with the kids. what a moment for them. there's quite a few moments this week in terms of the tournament as 11 of the top 25 players in the world, i should say, are coming out to lay what is a prestigious tournament. jeff newman is here with us. jeff w eve been down here -- we've been down here many, many years. you can feel the excitement. >> we've tripped the prize money and we have a great playing field. that's what this is. it's now got a great disti

as you can see, i am a proud nra member. i believe that our constitution. it is an important thing. i also get my news from cable networks, because i do not like the spin that comes from other places. >> you have got to be careful about those cable networks, though. [laughter] [applause] >> max bacchus, our senators, been blocked up in a room for months now trying to pay for programs. you are saving here, saving their. the only way you will get money is to raise taxes. >> i am happy to answer the question. look. you're absolutely right that i cannot cover another 46 million people for free. you are right. i cannot do that. so we're on tap find some resources. if people who did not have health insurance are going to get help, we're going to find money from someone. what i've identified, and what most of the identified committees have agreed to is that there overall bill will cost -- let's say it cost 800 to $900 billion. that is a lot of money. a lot of money. that is over 10 years, though. all right? about $80 billion to $90 billion a year. some can be obtained by doing things i men

nra says it will lower its rating of any senator who votes for her confirmation. joel broken, wjz. >>> the 55-year-old went on to serve as district attorney, private litigator and federal judge after graduating yale. >>> the deputy defense have ordered a review of the use of internet for recruitment. >>> the white house is using the world wide web to strike back at an unknown critic. someone put together video clips saying he wants to eliminate health care. a spokesperson said the blogger took the words out of context to give a false impression. >>> although alcohol can raise the risk of cancer, it has been shown to have protective effects. how alcohol can reduce your chances of developing one of the most common forms of lymphoma. >>> ray is my care taker, my oldest daughter. >> reporter: 64-year-old esther is a proud mother and grandmother. her family keeping her going. >> as long as i don't know how bad it is, i can fight. but once i know how bad it is, i might give up. >> reporter: esther has stage three lymphoma, a diagnosis about 74,000 americans receive ever

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that seem to catch the president slightly off-guard yesterday was the one about the question from the nrar who was -- seemed to be concerned about how are you going to pay for this? that is one of the big items that comes up time and again when it comes to health care. how do you pay for it? whose taxes will go up? or will it increase the deficit? the president very ready with that answer. the last question that he got, the last tough one he got toward the end was from a health insurance salesman, who says, why railroad demonizing the industry so much? that one seemed to catch the president slight live off-guard. why? because the fact is in the last few weeks, the message has shifted slightly to beat up a little more on the insurance companies and try to remind folks why they get frustrated with health care. you can't blame the government, it's the insurance industry, so he had to dance around that one and that was probably more difficult for him to dance around. >> compare the bill's progress so far with president clinton's attempt at health reform. has this president's measure broken ne

he called on a guy wearing an nra jacket and thought he was going to get a much hor heated question than he got. he looked good in comparison to the opposition. and when the opposition goes over the line, regardless of how much other presidents have had to bear this, it helps the president. because he looks reasonable in the face of extremism. >> in the face of extremism, and i'm curious, you seem to paint this, if it's only on the extreme right. >> oh, no. there's been extremism in american history -- >> no, i'm talking about current affairs if i may. you make it sound like it's only on the right. do you see any signs of extremism on the left? >> of course. >> there is extremism on both sides, and the median unable to divert our eyes from the car wreck gawk at it. but -- when you were mentioning earlier how the president criticized cable tv, i don't think the president is upset to carry his news conferences live. he knows how to use tv rather effectively and knows that, you know, he is winning this battle when it comes to the battle of the television screens. >> one would think certainl

she also received an nra award and lifetime membership in several local gun clubs.ytime, check outcnnpolitics.com. hey, jack. >>> a question this hour. after all, unfortunately for michigan, it covered foreign makes of cars covered down south. why wouldn't be for stimulating the economy in their own back yard? or could it be they would slit their own throats now to thwart any progress. got to keep americans down. get ready for 2010. the only reason they don't like this one is they didn't think it up. and buy something they probably don't need. not only that, many of those cars being destroyed could be resold to others or at least the parts could be resold. and russell in alaska -- the fact that these blow hards, talking about the senators, are even considering filibustering it is ridiculous. go to cnn.com/caffertyfile and look for your e-mail there among hundreds of others. >>> iran is stone walling about the fate of three american hikers. how a tough diplomatic standoff may go from bad to worse. >>> suddenly car sales are up, but the cash for clunkers program is ru

a guy with 100% lifetime rating with the nra, i can tell you that not only hurts those of us who believecond amendment rights, it makes the job of the secret service so much harder. our law enforcement personnel so much harder. we have to tone the debate down. >> back to the health care debate, where the hate is spinning out, i don't understand how we can have a debate about the fact health care has a reform. the leaders in washington agree it has to be fixed. when the persons are left out and think they are insured and find out how uninsured they are. in the most multicultural america ever, we have health disparities we could balance them out by the year 2000. they would still be living. 80% of the folk not insured come from families with part time and full time workers. >> this boils down, the discussion i had with the senators and here, what is the way forward. the president is facing an intensity gap. it could carry over. he's losing support among independent voters. what does he do, in the amount of time he has left to forge a compromise and succeed? >> he stops shouting at people i

the nra says it will lower its rating of any senator who votes for her confirmation. in washington, joel brown, wjz eyewitness news. >> sotomayor graduated from yale law school and served as an assistant district attorney and private litigators before becoming a judge. >>> a look at some stories you'll find in tomorrow morning's edition of "the baltimore sun." technology and the economy are turning the u.s. postal service into a much different operation. >>> a look at the ravens trevor pryce's indoor soccer training regimen. >>> and planning culinary strategy for baltimore restaurant week. that and more in tomorrow's "the baltimore sun." and look for the updated forecast from the wjz weather team. >>> in "health watch," the leading cause of accidental poisonings for american children is found right in your bathroom. kellye lynn has details. >> reporter: the new government report finds children are getting sick from medicine found in the family medicine cabinet. every year in the u.s. more than 71,000 children ages 18 and younger are seen in emergency rooms for uninten

we have had the first defeat on the nra with a bill that the senate rose up and said no. >> so you are feeling hopeful. >> certainly feeling hopeful and that it has been worth waiting and working with the leaders to try to get something better than the elimination of our gun laws. >> sounds like a work in progress. thanks for joining us. >> mishears sure. >>> back to school shopping is about to get easier in the commonwealth. >>> and metro riders should expect a slow commute if they plan to ride through parts of montgomery county. stay with us. >> this is jeff norman. he doesn't get health insurance from an employer, so he's been buying it himself for years. he's healthy, so he wonders why his rates keep going up. liz sloan wants health insurance but doesn't think she can afford it. we're assurant health, and we've been customizing plans to meet the needs of individuals for over 110 years. for instance, with our two-year rate guarantee and healthy discount, jeff will get 15% off his rate and lock in that rate for two years. for liz, we offer plans that allow people like her to pay for

. >> there's a lot of fear on capitol hill of the nra and i think that might have a whole lot more to do -- >> >> judicial activism is why you have the setup. >> we need an nra party, the bank party, the health care party, the union party. >> that's the american political system, we don't have democrats and republicans. that's the big misdirect. anyway, contessa, what's going on with our president? >> we have some breaking news coming in about the former president bill clinton. the south korean news agency is reporting that clinton has passed on a verbal message to kim jong-il from u.s. president barack obama. bill clinton is on a mission right now to north korea seeking the release two of journalists, laura ling and euna lee who have been held in north korea since march. they were accused and convicted of sneaking in to that country illegally, and basically north korea accused them of spying but again clinton is there trying to win their release, and while he's there, the white house says that they are not going to comment on president clinton's mission, because they don't want to je

currently list as clients on its website some very big names in the conservative movement, groups like the nra, the conservative news outlet, human events, conservative direct mail guru richard viguerie. we reported shirley and bannister also represent a website called grass fire.org which funds resist net.com which is a hub for online organizing for antihealth reform protests. you can find there among other things a video entitled obama equals hitler. resist net.com bills itself as the online community for patriotic citizens who are opposing the obama-led socialist agenda. it appears to be one of the more radical online organizing houses for these protests. they have hosted some of the most extreme rhetoric and imagery we have seen in this era of very extreme antiobama rhetoric and imagery. today shirley and bannister wrote to us to let us know while they used to represent grass fire.org they no longer represent them. now i apologize for saying that they were still currently involved in representing grass fire. they are not. shirley and bannister did, however, represent the group in 2004. bac

the nra decided to score this vote because they don't like some of her rulings on the second amendmentbut the federal government. a lot of republicans talk about what president obama did when he was a senator, so it's a little bit of what goes around comes around. a supreme court justice, that decision is one of the most enduring legacies the president has. this afternoon, she will be confirmed, make history and be the first hispanic to sit on a high court and that will be a long legacy for her and the president. >> and a big moment for him as well. with great thanks to you, my friend back there in washington. i'm andrea mitchell in nairobi, kenya. and now, we turn to contessa brewer in new york. >> the debate as you were just talking about, also of the government's cash for clunkers program and we'll be following the historic vote on sonia sotomayor. >>> cyber attacks today, the big news we're talking about today. hackers getting into twitter and facebook as well. we'll have the latest on that. i never thought i would have a heart attack, but i did. you need to talk to your doctor abo

. >> as you can see, i'm a proud nra member. [ applause ] i believe in our constitution.s a very important thing. i also get minus from the cable networks because i don't like the spin that comes from them other places. >> you got to be careful about them cable networks, though. [ laughter ] >> we keep getting the bull, that's all we get is bull. you can't tell us how you are going to pay for this. you are saving here, you are saving over there. you are going to take a little money here, and take a little money over there you have no money. the only way you are going to get that money is to raise our taxes. you said you wouldn't. laura: joining us from los angeles is radio talk show host tammy bruce a fox news contributor and from new york tara dow a democratic strategist. tara, let's start with you. do you think president obama today took on his critics? >> absolutely. i think he did an excellent job. i think this should have been done a lot sooner. he laid out the compelling reasons why we need health care reform. you take a state like georgia where part of my family is

there is a guy behind me wearing an nra hat. some one saying over here, no obama-care. joining me quickly here is the state secretary -- >> secretary of state. cary handle. >> i know your name. i forget your title. why are the folks out here? >> these are individuals speaking out about the health care plan moving through washington. people we want health care reform. we want a market-driven health care reform that protects the patient-doctor relationship. >> we will talk more with the secretary of state here on cnn. during my show coming up at 5:00, ali. a lot of people are out here, add manned about what they want. they want health care reform. what they want to make sure it is done right and not government-controlled. that's their word. ali? >> don, thank you. we'll check in with you again. the same sentiment i have been getting in some places along our stops. traveling for a week started in atlanta. ending in des moines. traveling 1,000 miles along the way. tennessee, kentucky, southern illinois, missouri, kansas and now into iowa. here is a bit of the conversation t

the toughest question from this guy, an nra member named randy.heck it out. >> max baucus, our senator, has been locked up in a dark room for months now, trying to come up with money to pay for these programs and we keep getting the bull. that's all we get, is bull. you cannot tell us how you're going to pay for this. you're saving here, saving over there, take a little money here, take a little money there. but have you no money. the only way you'll get that money is to raise our taxes. you said you wouldn't. >> with that, randy's 15 minutes of fame started ticking down. >> well, i drove several hundred miles. slept on a sidewalk to get in a line. i was number 215 in line. >> after the town hal, randy said he wasn't convinced that the president could fulfill his promise. >> i'm afraid where the money is coming from is out of the taxpayers' pockets again. >> why wasn't there more anger in here? for one thing, after accuse republicans of orchestrating protests, democrats did somor te some orchestrating of their own, getting in line early. >> was th

as you can see, i'm a proud nra member. i believe in our constitution and it's a very important thing. i also get my news from the cable networks because i don't like the spin that comes from them other places. >> you've got to be careful about the cable networks. >> max baucus, our senator, has been locked up in a darkroom there for months now, trying to come up with some money to pay for these programs and we keep getting the bull. that's all we get is bull. you can't tell us how you're going to pay for this. you're saving here. you're saving over there. take a little money here, there. but you have no money. the only way you're going to get it is to raise our taxes. you said you wouldn't. max baucus says he doesn't want to put a bill out that will, but that's the only way you can do that. >> i'm happy to answer the question. >> thank you. >> the -- look, you are absolutely right that i can't cover another 46 million people for free. you're right. i can't do that. so we're going to have to find resources if people who don

i wish the nra would take a stand. take a stand and say we have to have reasonable gun control. we have all the power in the world with the second amendment. we can dictate it. let's do it right. instead of bringing guns to presidential events. it's getting out of hand. people shouldn't bring guns to presidential events. too much history. bring it to a saloon with you, if you have to. that's a stupid idea. take it to a target range. i love to go and shoot skeet. that's where you bring a gun. >> i can tell you, chris, as a guy with a 100% nra record -- >> they are not going to do that. >> i said the same thing. keep your guns at home. not only are you -- you are making the job of the secret service that much harder. you are making the job of law enforcement officers that much horder. do i think some of those guys carrying guns are a threat? no, i think they are trying to make a statement. they are pulling the secret service and cops away from the real threats, away from the people that our law enforcement officers need to take care of. the conservative maintains social order. chr

. >> i have -- >> members of my family are members of the nra.hey believe in the right to bear arms as many americans do. i'm not against that. i'm asking you what do you bring to this discussion about health care by bringing a gun and the sign you quote jefferson from? what does this bring to a debate that this country is engaged in and we're looking at your gun right now and your sidearm there. and it's loaded. you pointed that out. what are you doing to help this debate? >> okay. well, sometimes when people are mired in their position, you can try to pull them out of it a little bit. but sometimes if you show the other end of it, you can pull them a little bit in your direction. clearly, i'm not advocating violence. clearly, no violence took place today. >> what are you advocating? >> i'm advocating an informed society, an armed society, a polite society. that's all there is to it. john lott has a great study, university of chicago, more guns less crime. people should read it. >> thank you for coming on the show. i think you speak in a differe