when buzzfeed asked the nra what it is doing with the data, an nra spokesperson replied "that is not any of your business." joining me now, steve friess, who wrote that article. steve, how did you dig this one up? >> well, you know, the big question that he keeps coming -- keeps coming up whenever we talk about gun legislation, how does an association that has nearly 3 million members, it is 3 to 4 million people, how does a group of 3 to 4 million people have this kind of influence, the ability to shut down legislation that has such overwhelming public spurt? and the answer is data. the answer is that they have collected the information on people, and they know how to activate many, many times the number of people who are actually members of their organization. and you know, they go into a congressman's office. they go into a city council office or a state legislator's office and they lay it out. they show exactly who they know. and they know that they are voters who will respond to their message. and they have tested the message. they have a very sophisticated message. >> and steve

the nra is opposing that, so the nra is making it easy for people with mental health problems to makeo get guns, and guns that can do mass destruction. as important as mental health is, however, you have to remember that a background check would not have stopped sandy hook, would not have stopped most of the other major mass shootings that we hear about. in the last 43 mass shootings, 32 of the killers were able to pass background checks, would have passed a mental head background check. as important as that is, you have to remember there are other things that the american people want to make our streets safe. the fact that we don't have these laws is the reason why we have a gun homicide rate that's 20 times greater than most of our industrial brethren. on the politics of this, it's very interesting, if you look at what's happening with mary landrieu and kay hagen action in their senate races, people who voted for the background checks, they're up in their races. the guy that's behind is our friend from arkansas, mr. pry yor, who is actually losing. the predictions this would be bad

an nra spokesman told buzz feed that's not any of your business but it is the nra's business to knowr business. the database has helped the group raise tens of millions of dollars, maintain political supremacy. what about those people who are told by wayne lapierre, the rand pauls of the world to fear the collection of names in a supposed national gun registry? knowledge of the nra's own registry prompt a revolt? as a former lobbyist puts it, probably won't care because the nra is not part of the government. joining me now is gary young a columnist for "the guardian" newspaper. there are folks who might look at this and say, hey look, this is not any different than what big retailers like target does, what the obama campaign famously does, we're in the era of big data, you're grabbing as much data as you can, assembling information about your prospective targets. what's wrong with this kind of thing? >> there is something to that. there is something to the idea that this is a form of marketing and it's about an organization and so object and so forth. and that the difference would be

an nra spokesman declined to discuss the methods.buzz feed, he replied, that's none of your business. >> i'm confused, that's an nra registry. did i miss something? >> but that's their business model. why not know who owns a gun in the country? so then you can solicit them to be a part of your group? isn't that a business -- >> isn't that un-american though? >> business, capitalism, how's that un-american? >> if you buy a car seat, you're in a registry. >> the central part of the nra's opposition of expanded -- >> the federal government possessing the right -- >> right if you're an nra member -- >> if you're a lot of people, you oppose -- >> -- your main fear is the government is breathing down your neck. >> the philosophical objection to all the nsa programs is you don't want the government -- everyone knows amazon has all your information. so does your online grocher who takes your food order every week. but this is about the federal government having too much information, too much control over their lives. >> have it already -- >>

exactly, and the nra has never ban sma been a small government lobby.uying into the overall conservative government. you saw after newtown, the president of the nra calling for a national database of people with mental illnesses, which should concern people. >> and armed -- >> armed employees. >> yes. >> yeah. so it's anything but restrictions on guns. it's one of these political issues where these sorts of measures are broadly popular, but the people who actually care about them and go into the voting booth on voting day saying the issue i really care about is gun, many are opponents of gun control. the interesting seep to see in the recalls, a law recall at recall election is that a time when gun rights supporters are able to marshal their people out and win these. i would be interested in what david thinks? will they be able to hold on to this? >> what is your opinion? will they be successful? >> the ruling you alluded to, the judge's ruling on mail ballots is a real x factor. this is going to be -- normally a low turnout election anyway. now you pot

sinter move by the nra or smart business?ollecting and spying and doing these things to us. i guess the nra is also guilty. >> can you say wheel of right wing hypocrites? yes. this is the one that fear mongered to get reasonable gun control that most americans were for to not pass because of fear mongering about this. and this is exactly what they are doing. it is a national database. it is exactly what they fear monger -- i would like a list of all the people in new jersey that have guns that can shoot planes down courtesy of chris christie. this is the worst kind of hypocrisy. >> you are a member of the nra. how is this not a major breach of privacy. people who aren't members, who have a right to privacy? >> well, they don't know what gun i have, when i bought it, the serial number that comes with it. this is the same thing as googling something which i'm sure stephanie is a big fan of and then getting a couple popup ads and maybe an e-mail about the product that she googled. this is what every magazine does in america. whe

needless to say the nra is way off the mark. but they pulled this one before. earlier this year we learned about an enemies list that included the aarp, hallmark, ben & jerry's, levi's, and sara lee desserts. they were also afraid of bon jovi, britney spears, jerry seinfeld, shania twain, and jack nicholson, and sean connery. i'm not sure why the nra thinks all these folks are so scary, but then again, it's usually hard to figure out what the nra is thinking. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in your school to protect our children, then call me crazy. >> call you crazy? i'll take a pass on that one. did the nra think we'd ignore their latest dive off the deep end? nice try, but we got you. and leave the poor pandas alone. like carpools... polly wants to know if we can pick her up. yeah, we can make room. yeah. [ male announcer ] ...office space. yes, we're loving this communal seating. it's great. [ male announcer ] the best thing to share? a data plan. at&t mo

. >> reporter: this nra women's network is designed with you in mind. >> reporter: the nra, which is overwhelmingly male, is aggressively courting this new wave of potential members. >> 27 million women strong are armed and fabulous and loving it. >> reporter: ads like these feature female shooters like natalie. the nra claims 30 million women own guns, a number critics say is grossly exaggerated. >> oh, that did some damage, all right. wow. >> reporter: but no one disputes that more women than ever have been flocking to gun clubs like these. >> i want you to see how much faster she was at just popping off a round. >> this thing freaks me out. i have a loaded gun in my purse. >> fire! >> oh, my gosh. that kick. >> the reality is we often have something in our arms that we can't drop. guess what? women, you've got kids in your hands a lot. and fire! >> reporter: in the next exercise the pink beach ball stands in for that precious cargo. >> using the frame of her holster, rack and fire. outstanding! >> reporter: although none of these women have actually had to use their guns to defend

but the nra did.oday buzzfeed reported that the gun lobby giant has built a quote, massive secret database of gun owners. the nra has been collecting this information for years. they get the info from gun permit lists, gun safety classes, attendees to gun shows, and subscribers to rifle magazines. all without people's knowledge or consent. what do you say about that, mr. nra? >> that's what they're after. the names of good, decent people all over this great country who happen to own a firearm. to go into a federal database for universal registration of every gun owner in america. the worst thing, you're creating a registry of all the law-abiding people in the country that own firearms. >> as president clinton once said, it takes some brass to attack a guy for doing something you did. did the nra think we wouldn't notice their massive hypocrisy on this? nice try, but we got you. that's real love. and so is giving him real tasty food. now there's new so good! dog food from iams. some leading brands cont

had nothing to do -- they never mentioned the nra.n colorado maybe the nra hasn't spent yet but a gun manufacturer was helping this election happen. he was threatening to leave the state. giving people -- i think it was $10 -- >> the kotch brothers. >> no, it wasn't them. they were saying, please help us stay in the state. it's very connected to business. the gun industry wants more people to buy buns aguns and op these things. that's when it comes to bloomberg, it looks clumsy when he dumps into a race. >> i want to bring in democratic state senate president of colorado senate, john morse. one of two senators being targeted in the recall. he joins us from denver now. senator, thanks for your time. let me ask you about that point, we have jennifer kerns right here, part of the effort, leading the effort to recall you. she's invoked mayor bloomberg. we see ads playing off, oh, this is the billionaire mayor from new york trying to meddle in colorado. is that something from your constituents, the people in your district, are they talking

both the official at nra as well as the twitter feed. instead they're factored on issues like the colorado recall election on september tenth, with senator morse and also senator heron. but this is a situation that the nra and its supporters cannot process. they don't want to deal with it. they cannot touch it. they just want it to go away. it denies the mantra that a man like wayne lapierre says that only the good guy with the gun, it is simply not the case, there are other ways to deal with gun violence. >> well, my new mantra, we all go through something in life. the antoinette tuff line. thank you both for joining me. >> thank you. >>> coming up, colin powell versus bill o'reilly, over voter suppression. >>> and the clip i showed you last night. >>> and marijuana is legal in some form in 20 states. but the federal government still considers it illegal. so imagine what kind of a mess marijuana businesses get into when they have to file their federal tax returns. in the rewrite. >>> as reported here last week, terry dunlap sr., a forme

tom jones was confirmed this nra withdidn't the against him -- whip against him? there was a sportsman gun group that came up for him. i think there were enough pushbacks to push the universal background check.the nra used to support it. a lot of people. thought,let's not get involved in this again. why don't we strictly enforce the gun laws we have? if you go seven years blocking anybody, why aren't you enforcing the laws?you can't do that. here is a man who is as well- qualified as anybody in the country. >> did it to take place in egypt? -- a coup take place in egypt? >> yes. is that too wishy-washy? [laughter] the white house has said it is not a coup at the moment. a democratically elected president, even someone doing a job as lousy as morsi was, they replaced him by the military. i'm a small town lawyer from vermont. in the call that a coup. foreign operations bill, or --ber -- -- remember certain steps are to be taken to restore democracy. the next part of that will be loud if those steps are taken.-- allowed if those steps are taken. morsi is not suddenly

the nra implemented stricter safety checks in response to the 2011 accident at the fukushima daiichi nuclear plant. but it allowed the two reactors at the ohi plant to stay online because they did not pose a serious safety threat. nra experts are currently screening six nuclear plants after utilities filed applications to restart reactors. but no clear prospects for restarting any of the reactors have emerged. >>> the operator of the fukushima daiichi nuclear plant is still struggling to stop radioactive water from reaching the sea. tokyo electric power company has learned that its efforts so far have failed. high levels of radioactivity have detected in the well sites. tepco has been using a hardening agent to try to solidify the embankment of the power plant to a depth of 16 meters. it hopes that might stop the tainted water from leaking into the pacific. but company officials admit water levels in one of the contaminated wells have risen by about one meter since the work began in early july. it says construction work on the embankment is likely causing the problem. the company say

the nra warned that these environmental groups ultimately want to ban hunting.sts say this is about the birds and switching to lead-free ammo doesn't create hardships for hunters, a point that the nra disputes. in washington, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> hours of debate over the bart labor dispute. >> there was no conversation about it. >> the unresolved issues, including a big dispute over how far apart the two sides really are. >>> an innocent victim. what we've learned tonight about this baby, killed along with his father, including a firsthand account there inside the home where they were sleeping. >>> and work on hold. washington's budget acts delays millions of dollars in projects. that story, new at 6. >>> complete bay area news coverage starts right now. this is ktvu channel 2 news at 6. >>> good evening. i'm gasia mikaelian. julie haener is off tonight. >> and i'm frank somerville. the board of inquiry's all-day hearing on bart negotiations just wrapped up a little over an hour ago, but not before bart and the union and the public all spoke at length about

>> three simple letters: ,nra.'ve done a great job describing it to the viewers about the legislative fight. the nra has shown the path forward for special interest to manipulate the policies debate without responsibility. when you look at what they put out in public, they don't show that secretly they're being funded by gun manufacturers, ammo companies and gun dealers. these gun industry types who would not like to see some of these big reforms on background checks or banning certain types of weapons, they've been able to hide behind the nra, and i think we're going to see more and more corporations adopting this approach whether it's the koch brothers hiding behind 20-some front groups to insurance companies, hiding behind front groups to effectively control the debate, and to avoid accountability. >> michael: yes, and i think, keli we're going to see an irs who will not follow them so closely. we've seen the them follow the super pacs and will they follow suit when it comes to political mills like alec, do you

and the best part when somebody asks about the nra an they were told, it is none of your business.want the government not to be doing. watching that speech it was hard not to remember that reason we have the gun law we have today, the foundation of which is particularly dangerous, people should not have easy access it firearms is because of assassinations, martin luther king, jr., president kennedy, robert f. kennedy. we still haven't realized the promise because we don't give everybody background checks. the wrong people are getting guns. that's what we have to change. >> part of what we feel we have to hear, nra says, background checks wouldn't have solved that situation or assault weapons ban wouldn't have stopped that situation from happening. when it strikes me that argument we need to be making and i know mark you've done this, is this is a multifaceted problem and it needs a multifaceted solution and rather than taking down the rabbit hole of fighting about, you know this solution versus that solution, that we have to make a holistic conversation. >> we do. i think there is

look first at the colorado recall another clear indication that the nra is winning this battle, righto. the momentum is definitely on the side of those of us who seek common sense to end gun violence in our country. colorado is definitely a tragic development and really the thing that all of the tragic developments have in common is when the corporate gun lobby gets its voice heard over the voice of the american public. the really encouraging thing is that you look at all of the victories that have been happening on state levels in terms of illinois, delaware, new york, you know, connecticut, there have been a number of states that have expanded background checks since -- since sandy hook happened. the momentum is definitely on our side and what we are really seizing a corporate lobby trying to overwhelm the voice of the american public. you know, sometimes it seems like two steps forward and one step back but i hope your viewers make no mistake that the momentum is on our side. you could look at the senate vote in april around expanding brady background checks as being a setback but

first of all this is organized by the nra.s. >> no, it wasn't. >> yes, it was. >> the nra put their money behind it because they're starting to lose ground. bunch of hacks. >> how are they losing ground when they wiped the floor with president obama -- >> they lost 75% of the seats they were surp important ipport >> membership is skyrocketing. >> skyrocketing. great. >> let's not talk about -- >> first of all wayne lapierre is a birther. >> what? >> he is. >> who's a birther? >> wayne lapierre. >> oh, please. god help you, bob. >> when you run out of fact it is. >> isn't an american citizen either. >> there's no single example after bystander accidentally shot by a permit holder but they seem to say it's more dangerous in a gun-free zone. >> can we get back to wayne lapierre is not an american citizen. >> he's not. >> he ven bob admits he has no facts. >> it's ridiculous to expect the president not to have security. but the point is, you're 100% right. put a sign up that says gun-free zone it becomes the most dangerous place i

there is a very vocal, very energetic and enthusiastic voice on the other side, the nra, and all theoney they've got behind them. they really represent the gun industry more than gun owners. and that's been a real log jam for us, maybe economic pressures or just the all of au image that we're getting will have some impact although i'm afraid i doubt it. >> we want to have this conversation about chris lane but it comes back to guns. thank you both for being here. coming up, the face of the defund obama care movement has some advice for uneasy conservatives. >> if you have an impasse you want to know one side or the other has to blink. how do we win this fight? don't blink. hey kevin...still eating chalk for heartburn? yeah... try new alka seltzer fruit chews. they work fast on heartburn and taste awesome. these are good. told ya! i'm feeling better already. [ male announcer ] new alka seltzer fruits chews. enjoy the relief! when she's happy, she writes about bunnies. when she's sad, she writes about goblins. [ balloon pops, goblin growling ] she wrote a lot about goblins after gettin

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the tragic mass shooting we inevitably hear the same refrain from anti-gun control groups like the nraave this discussion. but while we wait, americans continue to die. consider there have been nearly 7,000 gun-related deaths in the united states since december's horrific shooting in newtown. including two people shot and killed in chicago this weekend where a 6-year-old boy was among 19 others wounded by gunfire. two more dead and five more wounded in a possibly gang related shooting at a taco stand in california late last night. and in the bronx, the bloody gun of a 14-year-old sits on the ground after he was shot in the face and killed by a police officer yesterday. the youngest victim of a police shooting that commission mer ray kelly can recall. oh if not after a mass shooting, if not after each individual shooting, then when should this conversation take place? for more, i'm pleased to be joined by democratic strategist julian epstein and from mayors against illegal guns with me is mark glaze. julian, we're learning now hairy reid says is he almost certain the issue of background

>> the next step is the nra -- you know what the next step is? hire security guards.t to use money from the school budget, hire security guards on every single bus. the bus driver's job is to get them home safely and to school safely. >> now, the situation could have turned out differently. i think as dean and stephanie point out, this man was obviously conflicted, he was horribly afraid and trying to help this child. but he thought they could boat him to death. what if the child had been beaten to death? then what would you say? >> oh, gosh, i don't know that i would have changed my opinion one way or the other. listen, the police officer agrees with me. i think he should have stepped in. the police officer said the man should have done more. even the bus driver himself afterwards alluded to earlier, in subsequent interviews said, listen, i wish i would have done something. i wish i would have done something. he broke no letter of the law, as dean pointed out. he but moral laws he broke all over the place. you see these children beating up another child. 3 to 1 odds

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anita, what is japan's nuclear regulation authority, nra, what are they saying about all of this?reporter: well, the last few minutes i have been able to have a long chat with one of the japanese journalist who was present at the press conference a couple hours ago. and he said the body language coming from the regulator body and the association was very strong. the language likewise was strong. they were talking a fountains of contaminated water. this is water that is too radio active to stand near for very long so we are talking about a serious problem here. fountains of contaminated water potentially most likely going into the sea. he said he was very, very disappointed with the conduct of tetco, the tokyo electric power company the owner and operator of the catastrophically decaying six nuclear power plants. really quite a shock to the regulatory body and on their site inspection today they said they felt the site had not been inspected carefully enough and they were even more concerned with no proper records being kept of the inspection regime and the water is used for coolin