my colleagues on this committee know that the nsa headquarters lists the names of 176 nsa cryptologists, military and civilian who made the ultimate sacrifice for their country serving in silence. i would like to hear your plans on how to maintain that going forward. thank you mr. chairman for holding this hearing. i look forward to the gentleman's comments. >> general, if you would stand and raise your right hand. do you sol emgly swear to give this committee the truth, the full truth and nothing but the truth, so help you god? >> i do. >> please be seated. general, before we move to your statement, i'll ask you to answer five standard questions the committee poses to each nominee who appears before us. they require a simple yes or no response for the record. do you agree to appear before the committee here or in any other venue when invited? >> yes. >> if confirmed, do you agree to send officials from your office to appear before the committee and dez ig nate staff when invited? >> yes, mr. chairman. >> do you agree to provide documents or tells requested by the committee to carry out

i don't know what that statistics are at the nsa. some have our intelligence agency were born out of the war. we had 17 intelligence agencies now. and they make up an increasingly important sector of that workforce. what happened immediately after the war was that most of the women were sent home and held thank you for your service. a couple of the women whowo wanted to use the g.i. bill. they were actually denied spots in order to make room for returning men. eventually made up a generation of women at the nsa who pioneered code breaking her in the cold war. i woman was in charge of cuban code breaking. a woman named and christie. the first female deputy director. inside the building. there was a really important cohort of woman women who stayed with the work after they got married. that was when you are really expected to stay home. also there was an earlier generation who rose through the ranks t and then there was a falling off because women weren't recruited in the same numbersnd to be the next generation. a set of lawsuits as t

was ultimately declassified and i came upon that history and went to our museum and talked it to an nsa historian and curator in both women and so the federal historians and federal employees they had been waiting for someone to come along was interested in the story. they sat with me for hours at a time when i was completely ignorant of the code breaking and all that technology and science that went into it and when i looked back at that transcript it is so mortifying in some of the questions that i was asking that they were very patient. what was daunting, once they laid out for me whether i could find women who were still alive and who could tell the story whether i could find enough of the paper record to document the recollections and i was daunted by that and the story was so irresistible that i had to plunge in and do it if it was doable. i found the doctor and i had to convince her she would not be put in prison if she finally spoke about her work and her son was there and he had been trying to pry this information out of her for decades. were both there taking her on in convinc

i read a declassified history written by a nsa historian that is the descendent of wartime code breaking they knew it was largely female one was declassified then i talked to agency historians who introduced me to the larger story then i had to track down the women to get them declassified. >> hidden figures came out around the same time so how was that they came out at the same time? >> i think of them as the hidden figures i think it is extraordinary they have been untold up until now. i think we are in the era there was a disservice to the rest of the authors letting people think that they that this really happens the rooms were dark but now the lights are going on and we realize they have been here doing important work all along. >>host: and you have first-person accounts. >> in some cases i had to convince them they would not be put in prison. they were very, very good about keeping their secret. >>host: francine. here is a quote she's the one that got that slb yamamoto saying only ed dm woman could have figured out that blinking code. >> there was something about that irrational th

>> the nsa stuff is first reported in 2005 and 2006 and confirmed weeks later with the revelation of the snowden documents, was there a review of the broad data collection under george w. bush when revelation comes out of the nsa's illegal wiretapping and the department of justice determined it's illegal and only the threatened resignation of then fbi director robert muler and acting attorney general james comey keeps them from doing so and it goes ahead and proves it and now it's legal. >> you want to look at the cultural legacy of this? the church committee comes at a time when people's suspicion of the government is through the roof. americans will never trust the government again right? it turns out the cia is spying on american citizens and attempting to murder foreigners and the fbi has been infiltrating and destroying peace activists, and within the african-american community specifically, you can certainly point to some things and the suspicion that the fbi set up king to be assassinating in memphis and they knew it was coming and those to do nothing. the cia intentionally us

members asked about cyber issues and encryption technologies and recruiting and retaining talent at the nsa. this is about an hour.

recruited out of the college as a 22-year-old rose to become a member of the female director of the nsa. there was an important generation of women who were pioneershe of cyber intelligence basically. >> with a given that chance benefits? >> the navy women in theory qualified for the g.i. benefits and any woman who joined the army corps as well and so they could avail themselves of g.i. benefits but it was one of the women working forac the navy who wanted to be an architect. after the war she wanted to user g.i. bill to go to school and all the architecture schools turned her down and said were holding these spots for returning men and she said y was also a member of the u.s. navy and they said too bad, there's not a spot for you and she couldn't tell them that she sunk a convoy. they just couldn't tell what contribution they had made. >> here's the book called code girls, the untold story of the american women code breakers of world war ii and chapter ten is entitled pencil pushing mamas sink the shipping of japan. >> that was actually a poem that one of the codebreakers wrote. >> hos

he's never ordered nsa to the fight them in cyber space. i don't think he's ever going to.is speech by the president's national security advisor is, quote, even in the united states public officials have developed idealized views of this tyrannical regime. well, what public official do we think he's talking about, lawrence? >> what should we be doing in our cyber defense against russia? >> well, i think there are a number of things we can do, both offensive things and defensive things. i know there is a risk of doing offensive things that they will retaliate and we'll get involved in a tit for tat escalation process. but at some point you have to stand up to bully, even if you risk a fight. i think not having done that in the wake of repeated cyber attacks on our election, our power grid, our corporations, they're going to keep doing it. so i would find some target, perhaps the internet research institute that attacked our elections and i would attack them. i would wipe out their computer systems and find information online, perhaps about putin's vast wealth and reveal that

very much wanted to do even as though she still believed that she wasn't supposed to and i said the nsa would actually like you to talk about this story come it is a good storyik to tell. and then it took a little bit of persuading the she wanted to talk about her role in the war and finally get to say she had the tops it security clearance and had to miss work. she was part of one of the most important operations in world war ii and a o i kept trying tol her that and impress upon her and she had a hard time wrapping her head around how important this was. it turned out to be possible to find about 20 women to talk about their work into something that has been published by birds and at w least 20 more many of whom were online. i've heard from hundreds of children, adult children reacting like that's what my mom wasld doing. she said she was a secretary all those s years. but they didn't notice he had been released from their secrecy in the 1980s but no one told them. nobody tracked them down individually and as if it's okay to talk but they became aware memoir's were being returned and

many of the first super grades at the nsa came out of the war. one of the women rose to become the first female deputy director of the nsa. so there was an important generation of women who were pioneers of cyber intelligence, basically. >> host: were they given veterans benefits? >> guest: the navy women in theory qualified for the g.i. benefits and any women who joined the women's army corps did as well. they could avail themselves of g.i. benefits, but it was spotty. one of the womenr working for te navy, a brilliant woman from vassar wanted to be an architect, after the war she wanted to use her g.i. bill to go to graduate school, all the architecture schools turned her down and said we're holding these spots for returning men, and she said i was also a member of the u.s. navy. they said, too bad. and she couldn't told them that she had sunk a convoy. they just, they couldn't tell what contribution they had made. >> host: here's the book. it's called "code girls." and chapter ten is entitled "pencil-pushing mamas sink the shipping of japan."

again when you're dealing with entities like the nsa, if you are funding a tool that he wants peoplyouwantpeople to think wot want to catch everyone who uses it, that doesn't make sense so it's hard to read into the intentions of some of the most secretive agencies and the planet. we just don't know. all i can do as a journalist is to follow the money and the funding and look at the interest and who benefits from this handheld with used. sure a kid sitting somewhere making jokes about scientology isn't a threat to anybody so that if you run these marketplaces like silk road and he's in jail and if you look at the logs he kept as he was running this is us more like the server crashed and leaked my address. he knew that they were actively looking for him at that moment like to agence had infiltrated his organization and were pretending to be his friend. he was being actively sought and his server was crashing all the time and that's how he was caught in the end so i look at that and i think that's crazy he believed in it so much that even reality didn't stop them. knowing his server cras

nsa technology discovered vulner bills in windows technology.software company i will look at the past track record and say maybe it's not the best thing in the world to give information to intelligence agencies who leak like a pot with a strainer. >> it's been a very difficult week for the tech world. our founding fathers didn't have cell phones so we have this issue with the fourth amendment. security concerns and our right to privacy. what we learned from the facebook hearings is there is a lot of invasion of privacy. and a lot of americans are concerned about them getting information. companies signed on, but there are a few media companies that didn't. we have google, apple and amazon, the tech giants. they didn't sign on to it. but americans are concerned and up in arms over what happened and the nsa scandal and is co-systems is one of the tech giants that signed on to it. so that's a step in the right direction. >> i now it's a hotly debated situation. where do you come down on this? >> it's a nice idea for the tech companies to get togeth

what would they likely do this is what intelligencwith intelligene supposed to do and that's what the nsa does routinely, trying to understand the adversary and how its government works but what was different here is that this wasn't just espionage this was a version of warfare because what the russians did after getting into the e-mails that gave them access to the entire communications of the campaign is that they were using it for a fact. the critical moment comes in on the eve of the democratic convention when it starts to dump the entire e-mails that have been collected by the russian intelligence services and cause cause this mass disru. what happens in the early days of the convention you remember the chair has to resign, talk staff has to be signed, the clinton and sanders campaigns are angry at each other's throats all because of the russians were doing which is pretty astonishing moment in politics. in your research and interviews did you get a sense for why now? is it because of the advent of social media, why in this period? >> that's a good question and its two components. mi

i read a declassified history that have been written by an nsa historian. they knew that the origin story was largely female. and there were internal histories about this. i talked to some agency historians who introduced me it was a matter of tracking down women and getting records declassified. it came out around the same time. how is it that they came out at about the same time. it is extraordinary that their stories have been untold up until now. t i think were in an era where people are receptive to these stories into believing the stories. i think they did an enormous service to the rest of us authors in terms of preparing people to believe that this really happened. that they had been laboring in rooms in american history. the switches are being flipped now. we realized that these women had been doing important work all along.sre in some cases i have to convince them that they would not be put in prison if they spoke to me about the work that they did.th they were very good about keeping a secret. she is the one that got that smb saying that only a d

aftermath, and nsa is listening to everyone's phone calls and everybody's emails -- which is absurd,t that is a narrative and we had a hard time beating it. it is not true. yet, we are never supposed to miss on a terrorist attack. i saw this happen, the boston marathon. we would go up to the hill and get beat up because we were not more intrusive. moreould have been reading emails, we should have been following these people more. again, very mixed messages. i tell you, it blows me away the people who do not mind what the social media platforms do with their data in terms of advertising and all that. if it ist is different the government because the government can do bad things to you. yeah, i get that. there is to mean, a bit of cognitive dissonance there when i hear those two arguments. >> sir, what is your question? >> good evening. we spoke at the conference house but nic -- links -- but she mentioned that rti as the television station has significant impact. i was hoping you would go into further what the tv station alone does to spread this information -- disinformation in the u

we have spoken today to former cia spies, nsa spies who say the president is taking enormous securityks by using his personal cell phone so much. they say there are many different ways that rival spies can breach that phone and tap into the president's most sensitive conversations. >> stupid question. >> president trump's free-wheeling style of communicating, presenting serious security questions tonight. multiple sources inside and house the white house tell cnn the president has recently been using his personal cell phone more and more often to contact outside advisers. one senior white house official says trump is, quote, talking to all sorts of people on it. >> they're just totally vulnerable. the president should not be using these. >> tonight, former intelligence operatives and other security experts tell cnn, the president's use of his personal cell phone carries enormous security risks. spies are everywhere, they say, in washington and wherever the president travels. and they know how to tap that phone. >> i can put malware in your phone, i can then bleed out your conversation

. >> and what the nsa does routinely, trying to understand the adversary can understand what a foreign power, how it's government works. what was different here was that this wasn't just espionage. this was a version of information warfare because what the russians did after getting into the dnc, after getting into john podesta e-mails which gave him access to the entire communications of the clinton campaign, is there were using it for a fact. the dumping of those e-mails, the critical moment comes on the eve of the democratic convention when wikileaks starts to mass dump the internal dnc e-mails that have been collected by the russian intelligence services, and caused this mass disruption. what happens in those early days of the democratic convention? you remember, debbie wasserman schultz, dnc chair, has to resign. her top staff has to resign. the clinton and the sanders campaigns are at each other's throats. >> and the but he is walking each other. >> this is all because of what the russians were doing, which was a pretty astonishing moment in american politics. >> in all of your r

. >> and what the nsa does routinely trying to understand the adversary and understand for power and how it's government works. but what was different here that this was not just espionage but a version of information warfare because of what the russians did after getting into the dnc and after getting into john podesta's e-mails which give them access to the entire indications of the clinton campaign they were using it for the fact and the dumping of those e-mails -- the critical moment comes on the eve of the democratic convention when wikileaks starts to mask dump the internal dnc e-mails that have been collected by russian intelligence services. and cause this mass disruption. what happened to those early days of the democratic convention? debbie wasserman schultz and the dnc chair has resign and the top staff must resign and the clinton and sanders campaigns are at each other's throats. >> and everyone was working on angry at each other back and this is all because what the russians were doing which is a pretty astonishing moment in american politics. >> and all of your research

. >>> ahead on "cbs this morning," we'll hear from former cia and nsa chief michael hayden on whether he thinks north korea is serious about denuclearization. >>> ronny jackson, president trump's nominee to be the director of veterans affairs. jackson denied the allegations and the secret service said it found no evidence of the alleged car accident involving alcohol. jackson will return to the white house medical unit. >>> a vigil was held in toronto for the victims of last week's van attack. thousands attended including prime minister justin trudeau. ten people were killed when a van plowed through pedestrians on a sidewalk on a busy toronto street. people left flowers and handwritten notes at a makeshift memorial. the suspect has been charged with ten counts of first-degree murder. >>> maybe the third time will be the charm for t-mobile and sprint. >> hey, everybody. i'm back. you know what these videos mean. it means i have big news to share. >> that news is a proposed $26.5 billion merger agreement, a combination of the nation's third and fourth largest wireless companies. it mea

february 2017, the day after nsa director michael flynn was fired. comey says trump made a request. he said he hopes i can let it go. when he said that, you thought? >> he is asking me to drop the criminal investigation of his now former national security adviser. i took the -- expression of hope as -- this is what i, what i want you to do. >> the president says he didn't say that. >> yeah, well. what am i going to do? he did. comey's story about the conversation has stayed the same. do you solemnly swear to tell the truth. from his senate testimony under oath. >> i took it as a direction. he is the president of the united states with me alone saying i hope this. i took it as this is what he wants me to do. i didn't obey that. that's the way i took it. >> reporter: comey would leak his memos a decision he hope would and in fact did lead to appointment of special counsel robert mueller to oversee the fbi investigation into coordination between the trump campaign and russia. that investigation, now include a potential obstruction of justice case involving comey's firing. >> if robert

in congress senators that should know better claimed the nsa or the cia has conducted interrogationsapparently because that's the narrative that some substantial number of constituents are willing to buy credits for the interrogation techniques one newspaper "the news york times" or the newspaper of record as it likes to call itself cno r. has decided as a matter of editorial style it will revert the interrogation technique used by the cia as torture. notwithstanding that torture is defined in the federal statute as required elements of truth and there's good reason to doubt that any of those actually fits that definition. the times announces in a memo almost four years ago in august of 2014. that was signed by the editor. he simply announce that day that the editorial board decided at the urging of the reporters that with the terminology they would from then on use to refer to those techniques and so they have. that is the narrative. i think the discussion of the predominance of merit over object if facts is in reference or politics. right after the election the party that lost the

state, here is the answer, there is a deep state in this sense, there is a collect of people, cia, and nsabi and u.s. military service, who care passionately about getting it right, about the values we try to talk about. there is not a deep state conspiring against the elected leadership of off government. is he iny it nil in denial or l? >> his definition is antithesis of the real problem. and this is more self-serving. you know only he really knows best. it is nauseating. this is tough stuff to choke down and listen to. you know he does all this sort of virtue posturing. holier than thou and irony is all stuff he has done is opposite of what he pro tends to be advocating for. gregg: you know he has a savior complex. he was going to save the nation from evil and in his mind the evil was donald trump. and he knew better than everyone. he would bridg bring an end to . >> third day after he passes away, he is in for a rude surprise. gregg: chris farrell thank you about thank you. gregg: coming up next, president trump sides with the people of california, their fight against their left wing p

but if they were not the nsa could. you do a request.ve dead americans killed by savage terrorist and we are not playing patty cake and talk about what we might be able to do. and we need to find out the killers and go after them. >> and another incident. but it presidenty on the part of the agency. nmoteen was a decade fbi informant. what in the world was going on that they didn't know what he was up to and his family was up to. >> and to make it sure. down there when the pulse night club shooting and showed in 2013, the fbi was telling the sheriff's offense that mateen was not, not a terrorist. and see in and in association with the father and reported on activities about back in pakistan. and there is something else. >> from months after the shooting and the fatherly or four eats behind. >> one wonders if that is was a directed pass. and on behalf of the fbi. whop knows indeed. nchris, we learned that you will in every instance. >> and let's turn and they give two weeks for the doj to produce the documents. and then we learn that they

if on we could opt out of nsa spying. many of these senate carnival barkers are going easy on zuckerberg because they are hoping he'll remember their lenience and offer an elect handout. the worry is not what this digital giant does without regulation. it's what happens when it joins forces with the government to create a spying apparatus that will sense your bad thoughts long before they become dirty deeds. a lot of grandstanding lawmakers today, but the on person who really pushed zuckerberg was texas republican ted cruz. you say you have 10,000 people work on security and content review. do you know the political orientation of those 10,000 people engaged in con taken the review. >> we don't generally ask people about their politicaller. >>ien takes when they are joining the company. kennedy: joining me, the host of "media buzz." and author of "media madness." howard kurtz is here. how did mark zuckerberg do today? >> he was monotonous and kept saying we made mistakes and regret it but we'll try not to make mistake aga

to the white house were he -- everyone says he was pressured to drop the investigation into former nsamichael flynn. >> he talked about a non-zero possibility which was a legalistic way to talk about the subject. he's been interviewed by robert mueller. what does this mean? the book, some of the comments that comey's made for that investigation? does that mean that continu-- >> it may speed up if they don't do an interview with president trump. they won't have that interview to do. >>. >> reporter: mueller has already likely learned, verified and knows this stuff what's coming out is very, very different. these things have to be verified, they can't be said. >> thanks so much for joining us this morning from washington, d.c. >>> meanwhile here in europe, demonstrators took to the streets of barcelona this weekend. several central figures have either been mutt had -- protestors called them political prisoners and they wer demanding their release. spanish officials said they denied the responsibility by holding the referendum >>> another set of protests in budapest where they demanded a

one of the shocking things we discovered is that a lot of people associate surveillance with the nsa, but really it can be traced all the way back to the u.s. occupation of the film -- philippines. that is when they came back and set up the origins of the surveillance state. example isemporary military equipment and the iraq war. for example, there is something called the stingray, a cell phone simulator which is a small suitcase that acts as a fake whichhone tower, redirects cell phones in a geographic space through this device so that police are able to locate individuals. this was designed for the u.s. military in the iraq war, but it has come home, and it is estimated that 35 out of 50 police departments in the states have these. host: part of your research led you to ferguson, can you remind us what happened there and what the scene was like? christopher: sure. and the the protests big images that may news was the militarization of police. had people protesting police violence, sniper rifles and so this starkpainted picture of this idea of militarization and the idea of the appro

another outrageous liar who swore under oath before congress that the nsa doesn't surveil american, thenn an obvious display of lying shifts his eyes and body and said, well, not wittingly. your book is as petty, unprofessional and illegitimate as a stormy daniels resume. you talk about the size of the president's hands, whether he used tanning goggles in a tanning booth and whether his hair is real. fbi agents behind your back called you cardinal comey. but you are not holier than thou, you are a polite scallop a tough to make yourself the center of a moral come pass. the fbi director brought from the fbi agents to make sure the secret service didn't block your dramatic entrance in john ashcroft's hospital bidside qulaimg you were willing to resign if the southern general didn't follow your suggestion. but enough about you, let's read the boodges excerpts. but you claim the president sitting at his december next oval office was a king sitting on a throne. a king because there was a block of wood between you and the president. and, jim, did you everb appear before a judge? you say the pr

there is a collection of people, cia, nsa, fbi in the united states military services who are passionately getting it right. who care passionately about the values that we try to talk about. no matter how they vote or how they talk at home, try desperately to do the right thing. that's deep, that is unchangeable, actually. my lord. this is a man -- i don't know how much more harm he can do himself. but he's unfettered and whittling away at his self to which there will be nothing recognizable by the time he's done. >> more virtue posturing by mr. comey. not that he's talking about himself, of course. but there are american heroes who know better, so keep your heads down and obey because we have all the right answers. lou: elitism is gag worthy. >> it's insulting it's so self-reference as he says -- self-ref mention. lou: it seems to be the tone set by so many of even our elected officials in this country. the time for elitism, globalism, is n yes and end. this country needs to get back to its fundamental founding values. a constitutional republic, elected leaders, not deep state vermin. >>

figure out working with the dod leadership and the nsa leadership how to gain access to those laboratories in the way that meet the solution space. a member of the executive committee under mr. griffin, he meets with his seniors on a quarterly basis as well. we have a great connectivity into his chain. >> thank you. i believe a whole is support strategy. can you please describe your work with other asys to achieve your objectives and how is undersourcing and marginalizing other federal agencies affected the earth? >> to your point, congressman, it's a whole of government effort. the development on the part of adversaries or potential adversaries, many of those interdictions, many of those intervention interventions, many of the pathways we call for the routes of individuals are getting at the diplomatic piece of it. the compliance piece of it. the economic sanctions. we have the treasury, department of commerce, we meet on a constant basis with them routinely. weekly. in terms at the white house and the pcc and at other interagencies constructs that we can speak in more detail in closed se

i remember sitting in meetings with nsa folks in cyber, realizing there are more lawyers in the roomecause of the fact the lawyers wanted to understand exactly what we are doing to go on the offensive and made it so intel people are risk-averse and the russians don't have to deal with that, they don't play by the same rules but the reality is there is no doubt after seeing russian meddling in our elections, the russians are in a covert war with us. we can't sit here and whistle past it when targeting it. rob: are using we should learn to fight dirty away the russians are. we are litigious on how we operate. >> we need to take the handcuffs off and let them do their job. the greatest capabilities in the world, we don't employ them, this is a situation we need to fight back, we can't just sit there and continue to be targeted just because bombs are not going out in the street and gunfire doesn't mean we are not being attacked. if we let this happen we will see some issues further down the road. our cyberwarriors can be unhinged and do their job because that is how they know how. rob: a

. >> reporter: ruben says in the future he wants to work for the nsa or the fbi, protecting the countrygainst foreign and domestic cyber threats. >> has anyone called you? i feel like they should be recruiting you now. >> i've had some offers from the government of the netherlands and even the department of defense. >> did you tell them, what, i've got to graduate first? >> yeah. i want to get done with sixth grade first before i start thinking about jobs. >> reporter: i'm david begnaud. >>> this may sound like a scene from a bad cartoon. let's say you have a stack of money in your pocketbook and you hide the pocketbook in the oven. then someone turns on the oven. believe it or not, this stuff really happens, and so what do you do with all that burnt money? rita braver found the answer. >> this is the famous tess. >> that is her. the famous tess. >> reporter: it was the dog ate our rent money story. and it started when mark bun of greensboro, north carolina walked into his bedroom run afternoon. >> i just happened to glance down at my bed, and i saw a piece about maybe the size of my th

and you can't opt out of nsa spying.the meantime, the last house speaker, you heard his name at the top of the show, john boehner, making a stunning announcement. he now supports legal weed. this is a major turn of events. back in 2011 he said i'm unalterably opposed to the legalization of marijuana. i remain concerned it will result in increased abuse offal varieties of drugs, including alcohol. cops arrested nearly a half million people for selling pot. perhaps the former speaker feels guilty because this morning he announced i have joined the board of acreage holdings because my thinking on cannabis has evolved. i welcome this evolution in the former speaker's thinking. i do. because he not only will make a lot of money in the cannabis explosion, i don't begrudge anyone their winning. but he's talking about vets who have been qul -- who have been g for more research to get help with ptsd and pain. >> it's totally archaic that we wouldn't be involved in medical research. if we had the same mentality in the 1950s as we

surveillance operation, which we discovered readin researching te book, which people associate with the nsa. individuals can back to the u.s. and set up the origins of the surveillance state. more recent examples is military equipment associated with the iraq war. there is something called a stingray cell phone simulator, phoneacts as a fake cell tower, which redirects cell phones in a geographic space to this device so police are able to locate individuals. this was designed for members of the u.s. military in that iraq war, but it has come home, and it is estimated 39 out of 50 large police departments in the u.s. have these. host: part of your research led you to ferguson, missouri. what happenedwers there and what the scene was like. guest: do the ferguson protests, -- you had the ferguson protests, and you had police in military garb and equipment as individuals were protesting police violence. it really painted a stark idea of thehis militarization of police and the appropriate role of police in relation to citizens. host: explain why this is a problem. guest: it is a problem because

. >> reuben says in the future he wants to work for nsa or fbi protecting the country against foreign you? i feel like they should be recruiting you now. >> i've had some offers from the government of the netherlands and even the department of defense. >> did you tell them, what, i've got to graduate first? >> yeah. i want to get done with sixth grade first before i start thinking about jobs. >> for "cbs this morning," i'm david begnaud. >> and the child shall lead them. we reached out to cloud pets and spiral toys, the companies behind the teddy bears paul hacked, neither responded to our request for comment. on its website cloud pets says users acknowledge the company may capture audio recordings and that it may use or store the recordings and the data contained within them. paul set up a nonprofit to create videos that teach people about cyber dangers. he hopes to one day study at caltech or mit and aspires to be an olympic gymnast. busy guy. >> the nsa may be a phone call away from him. >> that rare gymnast double major. >> you never know. dream high. former white house chef reorg