nation up security and believes the cia -- and and eight days leaving office, allowing intercepted nsa data to be shared globally across the intelligence community raising the chance that someone who would release it to get their hands on it. >> we will tell people how to protect their own gadgets. >> look who is talking, either slamming the democrats saying they do not respect our national security, take a listen. >> we are in a civil war situation, democrats adopted the slogan resist, resistance. that is what partisans did against the nazis, not an opposition party in a democracy. what is trump tower tapped? of course it was. the nsa collects every communication. the question is can more intelligently opened and used? to answer that you have to say barack obama or the democratic party respect our national security laws, the answer is obvious, no. >> we want to keep talking about this. what do you think of democrats pushing our national security at risk, log on to the "fox and friends" first facebook page with a live debate with hashtag keep talking. abby: horror and bloodshed when a man j

liz: james clapper later admitted that, yes, the nsa does, in fact, collect data on americans on theires, possibly e-mails. in fact, the nsa can track our phones right now, according to judge napolitano. let's bring in the attorney who won one of the most, if not the most important lawsuits against nsa data collection. he's freedom watch founder larry claman. judge, what do you make of james clapper is now saying? >> well, what he's saying is obviously false. you know, that was under oath. if it had been you or me, liz, we would be at a minimum indicted for perjury. and the fact that he was head of national intelligence illegally swaling millions of americans would get you in jail probably for the rest of your life. and if you look at his demeanor yesterday when he was on television being interviewed, he's looking down. he's not looking at the camera. i mean, the guy -- his eyes were shifting faster than howdy duty. but the real issue here is that it shown that the cia and nsa had done mass surveillance against individuals. it's also been shown that there were fisa warrants presented f

citizens that nsa is collecting data and storing it.ant to go after somebody they could go to that data and pull data off that particular person out. as i think what happened here, evidence of the conversations between the president of the u.s., president trump, and the president of australia, and president of mexico. releasing those conver conversation, collecttion picked up by the nsa, that is where they have tap points all over the country collecting data off fiber optic network and telephone network, all data is stored by nsa, the question is -- all done under executive order, one. two, triple three with n no warrants. lou: idea of warrantless wiretaps, something people i think many people, have the impression that is not happening at all in the cup country. in fact it i is -- principle source of surveillance is it not. >> it is. showing that government is being overseen by senate and house intelligence committee and the court, that is not the main collection program for nsa. they don't take warrants they collect everything. lou: i

or nsa pick up meta data on millions of americans. kennedy: or the nsa reading every email transmission that comes in and out of this country. mollie: the distance between the government and the people is even greater and there is a secretive bureaucracy that's powerful and doesn't feel the need to be transparent about what it's doing. kennedy: you said you used to hear people say do what you want, it's a free country. >> i heard that all the time when i was growing up. you would be told, it's a free country, people dock what they want. that's the not happening anymore. you don't hear that statement or sentiment or that general way of life it's tide in as who we are as americans, this idea we get to live our lives the waive we wanted whitewater without oppression from the government it's fading. kennedy: i think the implication from the f.b.i. director is there is no such thing as absolute privacy, therefore you shouldn't expect any privacy. it seems that's the next step for him and we are losing quite a few hops in the middle and that

going to disagree on what snowden did because snowden did open up -- he did expose what the nsa was doing, datarying to go after some. >> greg: he wasn't involved in that arena. >> eric: he was a whistleblower, in my opinion. >> juan: you know why the russians just extended his stay? i think the russians -- >> eric: what the nsa was doing is clearly, clearly illegal. >> juan: but snowden had no business -- >> eric: nothing illegal. so far what we've read with these leaks, none of it -- >> lisa: it would be a 10-year penalty if greg and bill o'reilly were in charge. >> kimberly: we have a series of national security breaches in the country, people like chelsea manning, edward snowden, hillary clinton with improperly caring for her server. i don't see distinction between these people in terms of the fact that they were reckless with our national security. they were reckless with highly sensitive intelligence and materials, and none of that should be excused across the board. >> eric: he was exposing something the nsa was doing illegally to americans. >> greg: i have to disagree with you. he wasn'

. >> does the nsa collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of americans? >> no, sir. >> it does not? >> not wittingly. there are cases where they could inadvertently, perhaps, collect. but not wittingly. >> classified information later leaked by edward snowden showed at the the nsa did in fact collect data on u.s. citizens. james clapper himself ended up acknowledging his answers to congress were incorrect. conservative radio host laura and graham tweeted "clapper was on "meet the press" for the entire segment and choctaw didn't ask him one question about his own lying to congress. "even liberal writer glenn greenwald the tribe did with "shouldn't democrats get someone more credible than james clapper to make these denials, like andy randomly chosen person? "it is not just james clapper. ben shapiro points out how the left has now re-embraced fbi director james comey just a few months ago, many liberals accused him of throwing the election. now that he is asking the department of justice to publicly reject president trump's wiretapping claims, he is back i

intelligence data following the nsa documents exposed by edward snowden.or some americans this breach may hit closer to home. who may have stolen america's secrets this time? here is peter alexander. >> reporter: wikileaks posting a giant trove of cia documents it claims reveals secret techniques in some of the most common electronic devices. all of it to spy on their owners. nearly 9,000 documents that expose software tools designed to break into iphone or android and bypass secure messaging apps like signal. one revealing how to eavesdrop on conversations picked up by internet-connected tvs when they appear to be turned off. even a hack for microsoft windows named after a character in a movie. nbc news hasn't authenticated the documents and wikileaks isn't revealing the source. tonight the cia isn't commenting. computer experts are treating the documents as real as well as the alleged security breach. >> we have always been worried about spies inside our agencies. what's different is technology has allowed the fruits of that spying, if you will, to be mo

they have 24/7 access to the nsa data base.ing president obama needs transcripts of conversations involving candidate trump, conversations involving president-elect trump, he is able to get it. there is no american fingerprints on this. brian: so you are saying that the british use their version of the cia to wiretap donald trump phone? >> it's not a wiretap. the concept of plugging a wire into a phone box in the basement of a building is what the law was when these statutes were written in 1978. everything is done electronically now via computer. the nsa has 24/7, 365 access to every computer and every telecom and service provider that does business in the united states. they share that with various intelligence agencies including the brits. so the british intelligence agency had this. what happened to the guy who ordered this resigned three days after donald trump was inaugurated. brian: donald trump might be right except for the fact who did it unbelievable that according to your sources. great job. >> all the best, brian. b

whistleblower edward snowden revealed in 2013 that the nsa was secretly collecting telephone data called the practice restless -- reckless on twitter. he says "until closed any hacker can use the security hole the cia left open to break into any iphone in the world." the cia and the white house are refused to comment. the information has not been verified. the documents look authentic. genie: today is international women's day, an event marking a struggle for women's rights. it was celebrated in new york in 1909 with a strike by female garment workers and has since spread around the world. it gives us a chance to take a closer look at the situation of women today. over half of women say they have suffered physical violence or mental abuse. in their conservative society, most of them are too afraid to speak out. that could change if a law aimed at reducing domestic violence is passed by the country parliament. andrew hillier reports. >> in an ordinary looking building in central tunis female victims of violence come in search for safety and health. this is the home of the women's democrat

liz: the man who won the lawsuit against the nsa for mass data collection in surveillance practices isarry klayman. larry, you warned about this way before what devin nunes disclosed. what do you think now? larry: i did, liz, this was entirely predictable foreseeable, and i agree with chairman nunes when what he said, it's not legal, it's unconstitutional. judge leon ruled that in the lawsuit in 2013 there. such more here. he just talked about the tip of the iceberg. there's a heck of a lot there and we have offered, i sent a letter on the 21st of march, before chairman nunes came out yesterday and described what he has and urged him and his committee to bring forward dennis montgomery, former nsa-cia contractor who has information about the illegal surveillance. 47 hard drives. 600 million plus pages of information, he testified in front of the fbi in an interview he gave under oath for three hours in a secure room in washington, d.c.'s fbi field headquarters. nunes needs to get that information from the committee and asked the white house to bring in montgomery in a secure room with

nsa they had a program they called love-ent. that's where the analysts and national weathensa looked ie lovers were cheating on them. that's the extent of the dataion the nsa is doing. >> tucker: i grew up believing that the nsa was not allowed to be collecting evidence. you are saying that that's been perverted for many years. >> yeah, since 2001. >> tucker: so, what do you make of considering what you said the nsa has all the information so presumably they could prove or disprove the claims about russian tampering in this election. prove or disprove russia's tweet about being spied upon. why wouldn't they? >> well, that would get into the extent of which they have penetrated the network inside the united states. there is another program going on here that too many people aren't talking about. i think you were trying to get at it with your previous guest. inside nsa there is a set of people and we got this from another nsa whistle blower who witnessed some of this. they are inside there. they are targeting and looking at all the members of the supreme court, the joint chief he is of staff, congress, both house and senate, as well as the white h

that's where the analysts nsa looked in to see if the lovers were cheating on them. that's the extent of thena dataollection the nsa is doing. >> tucker: i grew up believing that the nsa was not allowed to be collecting evidence. you are saying that that's it was supposed be outwardly focused on our foreign enemies. you are saying that's been diverted for many years. >> yes, since 2001. >> tucker: so what do you make of considering what you just said that, the nsa has all the information. so presumably, they could c proe or disprove the claims about rushingg to entering in the election, they could prove or disprove trump's treatment of being spied upon. why would they? >> thathi would get into the extent of which the the network inside the united states through there is another program going on here that too many people aren't talking about.k i think you are trying to get at it with your previous guests. inside nsa, there is a set of people -- and we got this from another and it's a whistleblower some of this. they are inside there, they are targeting and looking at all the members of the supreme c

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>> eric: clapper said the nsa wasn't collecting data on americans. >> dana: i'm curious. what are you saying they lied about on monday? >> eric: they were asked is there an ongoing investigation going on and where they targeted? no and no. but they were and they are. >> dana: you don't accept that incidental collection about a different topic is not targeting and investigating them. >> eric: the way it was incidental because it went through the fisa court. >> dana: what was the original warrant about? who were they talking to? >> eric: if you're going to tap into an american, you have to go to the fisa court. >> greg: we don't know anything. >> kimberly: lots of breaking news today, as you can see. more on this developing story and the london terror attack. safety isn't a list of boxes to check. it's taking the best technologies out there and adapting them to work for you. the ultrasound that can see inside patients, can also detect early signs of corrosion at our refineries. high-tech military cameras that see through walls, can inspect our pipelines to prevent leaks. re

that does not include the nsa expansion of raw data. and where it may direct that raw data. across the intelligence community. >> one question for trump administration have they changed rules back to what they were before the election, to at least cut off the flow of raw data, raw data means that anyone is make up anything about anyone, it gets written down on a official government document, sunnily it ha -- suddenly we have a life of its own. we saw idiocy last summer of a british spy that wrote people went t prague, they had never been, and no idea what they were talking about, that went on for 6 weeks. lou: i am pressed for time. but, health care legislation, thursday, a big vote, president is in louisville, tonight to push the legislation forward. what do you see as the likely fate of the repeal and replace? >> well, i hop they can get it past thursday, this is the beginning of a long process. they will pass a different bill in the senate then conference, that is part one, this is going to be a long process of repealing, and rin organizing our he'l health system, this ve

. >> tucker: the nsa, has all the data on everything. they tapped into the trump lines, every phone call -- maybe some of our thoughts are being recorded and stored by the nsa.. they know exactly to which degree the russians interfered. why doesn't the intel committee say, produce documents now. now. >> wouldn't work perfectly that way especially on the house side the head and intel committee stumble through this process and the fact that last week, he's getting documents on white house grounds and announcing and giving to the white house the next day. he has put himself in a point where he's going to have to recuse himself from all this which is why an independent commission which is exactly what the american public wants makes the moste sense. it's in the best interest for the trump administration. if there's nothing to be had out there, let's have that independent commission come in. >> tucker: look. i've had congressman schiff from burbank come on the show. i asked pretty normal questions on the show and he called me an agent of the k

out yesterday, this is the same man that testified under oath before congress that said nsa was not collected dataf american and they proved he had lied. he had to backtrack completely. >> i would say give the benefit of the doubt to the president. let's wait before he keeps saying he is wrong, all i'm saying is -- >> he has shown no evidence that the former -- he didn't say the fbi, nsa or cia, he said former president. he said he was sad -- i forget what the quote was. sad and a bad guy and it was like watergate. do you think that the president united states should be a bit more careful about who or what organizations he makes accusations about? >> he should be serious about it and i think he should present evidence overtime and he told there will be investigation or he wants an investigation and he said he would be proven right. i'm not sheer here to say the allegation is true. i'm saying give him the benefit of the doubt. the president didn't order the surveillance. >> that's what he said. he accused -- >> there's two parts to it. >> you said the fbi -- if he said -- if he said the fbi wiretap

>> well, the intelligence community has demonstrated an inexhaustibl thirst for data. the nsa version of the c.i.a. in the united states, collects the equivalent, if printed, of 27 times the capacity of the library of congress every year and doing it for 2005. they have the digital version of every telephone call and every cell phone and every land line, every key stroke on every device and all the digital data that goes through the fiber optic cables in the united states, they can download it in real time to examine it and it's stored and available to them. they do it without suspicion or probable cause. isn't it un-american for our own government to gather all this information about us? now we find out that the government can get into the kitchen or the bedroom through something that when george arwall wrote it it sounded so fantastic to believe it. that watching a television that can be watching you. what upsets me, there's no out rage. it's oh, my god. there's no outrage. we have accepted the falsehood that the government can enhance national security by diminishing person

i want our ureters to be clear how could the nsa do a dive into my data right now? >> very simply, because they collect the entire set of data flowing across the fiber-optic lines inside the united states. no matter where they end up, if it goes to foreign countries or stays domestically. they have all the data already stored in their storage facilities and they simply interrogate it by our phone number, your ip address, or any other signature, banking accounts or credit cards, things like that. >> jenna: if somebody wanted to do a deep dive into the data that i have, they would plug in my phone number and they would have access to the data? >> yes. the speech that applied to me, jon scott, vito, and the president of the nine states to america? >> that is correct. >> jenna: who has access to that data? so they could go through this phone number to see if anything question was happening, who has access to that data? was mining the data? >> my estimate would be between three and 6,000 people inside the intelligence community. that would include the fbi. it goes routed

. >> tucker: he worked there for all these years, that nsa collects basically all data coming in and out of the united states. if you tap into the data trunk, what do they do with it? they have it. is that true? >> that is a little broader than what my understanding is. you would have to get a warrant. you have to get warrant application, fisa court. it is separate analysis. if you're talking u.s. to foreign, it is still a separate analysis but one that would require going to the fisa court. >> tucker: he said on the committee overseas, are you satisfied if you requested on specific accounting of something, you will get it? >> i do not know that i would, tucker. i'm not dodging your question. there is something called the gang of eight. >> tucker: members of the committee would receive that information. >> speaker of the house, and the gang of eight -- if you are just a hip c member like i am -- >> tucker: they can get the full story, whatever they want. the intel agency will get that to them. >> only cavity you never know u got. it's been one that is a concern for ordinary voters li

. >> does the nsa collect any type of data at all on billions or hundreds of millions of americans? >> closer. jesse: but we know that wasn't true. the obama administration sucked up tens of millions of phone calls under its program. clapper had to apologize for his false statements in a letter to diane feinstein. he said his response was completely erroneous for which i completely apologize. we can't believe anything in this story because it's so hard to trust anybody anymore in washington d.c. the press, the politicians and bureaucrats. here to clear this all up, former prosecutor in the manhattan da office, elliott. i want to do this very methodically and ask to start at the beginning. we are hearing reports in the summer of last year the obama fbi started looking into trump and trump associate spread what do we know about that initial investigation? >> multiple sources report that in june 2016 the obama justice department with the fbi started looking at potential contacts between senior officials in the trump campaign or others associated and russian banks or russian financial i

. >> tucker: he was saying that nsa collects basically all data coming into and out of the united states. it's capped into the data trunk. the question is what do they do with it? but they have it. is that your understanding? is that true? >> that's broader than what my understanding sst you would have to get a warrant. if you're a u.s. citizen, you have to get a warrant and application from fisa court. if you're talking foreign-to-foreign, that's a separate analysis. if you're talking u.s. to foreign, it's still a separate analysis and one that would require going to the fisa court. >> tucker: last question, you sit on the committee that oversees our intelligence agencies. are you satisfied if you request a specific accounting of something you'll get it, get the straight-forward answer and get the entire answer? >> i don't know that i would, tucker, and i'm not dodging your question. there's something called the gang of eight. they're entitled of information that others are not. speaker of the house, minority leader and ranking member and chairman of hipsi or r-4 in the gang of eight, i

nsa. they decided where the raw data would go. he changed it with 17 days left. a much more difficult to determine who is engaged in the leaks but what is getting lost in this entire discussionff and that is what i think we have to focus on is this informatione is being leaked. >> sean: selectively and in the case of general flynn, things that should never have been leaked. this is unprecedented. didn't you write '78 fisa law? >> i didn't but i know it very well. >> sean: i'm sorry, i misspoke. for 32 years, many retired, why? >> i retired in october 2001 because they started spying on>> everybody in the united states. although u.s. citizens citizens, the bulk data, the second circuit court of appeals ruled. in 2015. >> sean: it is your belief that every american citizen, all of this data, all of our cell phone calls, all of our text messages and all of our emails -- it is your belief and one of the reasons we retired because you cannot live with this any longer -- is that every american, all of this being saved and stored?ic >> that is correct. that is also why

under obama's watch, the nsa testified that there was no massive data collection and that turned outo be a big lie, only because we had a huge whistleblower who let us know that. >> why would trump call for an investigation if he knows he has nothing to hide? >> calling for an investigation is something he's going to regret, because there will be one and it will determine that his campaign did indeed talk to the russians, whether or not they were colluding on the campaign are not willingly or knowingly, there was something there. >> tom: who hasn't -- these russians never shut up, they talk to everyone. >> here's the thing, why not just say "yeah, i met with the russian ambassadors." why why is everyone lying about their meeting? >> i was in p.r. for a short period of time, which i absolutely hated. one thing i learned is that you need to get out in front of the controversy. in terms of this administration, get out in front of it and maybe this is what he was trying to do with the wiretapping, we just need facts, give me something to work off, and whether that's for trump or against

. >> he said before that the nsa is not collecting data, no way on american citizens, it kind of showsunhinged, can't trust trump, but we are at a point even before trump ever came into politics that people we can't trust people that are already there anyway. kevin: everybody knows. you can see them talking about nit the public. it wasn't obama specifically, it was his administration, yeah, exactly. that was the whole point. he only has 140 characters which he dispenses information. dagen: you have to sell it off. senator, there's a lot of pressure on the committees, senate and house committees to get to the bottom of this and level with the american people because if they don't do what people decide is a decent job at uncovering who is behind this leaking, how to stop it, then you could wind up with say a special prosecutor at the justice department and i can't imagine anybody wants that. >> no, of course, the prior history with regard to special prosecutors and once again they do need to do their job, they need to work through the weekends and can't leave it to thursday at 1:00 o'clo

data breaches one thing. why you think the intelligence community, the nsa, cia, fbi has a persistent problem with links to the media? guest: why they have the problems with the leaks to the media? i really don't know the motivations are. obviously there was sensitive information, some of the most sensitive intelligence community collects. this is the intercepts of phone calls of americans overseas. it is called inadvertent collection. this stuff is the three locked up and put away but someone transcribe it, distribute it it quietly to the community. then someone leaked it to the press. you don't quite know what their motivations are. did have a political angle against the new trump administration? do they have an agenda against their own agency that they may work for? it is hard to determine what the motivation is because the acts are illegal and in certain cases they make america much less safe. they make us very, very vulnerable. why they behave in that way, it is hard to determine. until you actually catch these folks and take a look at it, we probably will not know what their motivation is. host: we have

public about what the nsa is and is not legally collecting and the safeguards the nsa has put into place to protect personal data. i would like to clarify, as the chairman of the subcommittee on the nsa, i recently got to meet your deputy, admiral, last week, out at the nsa, we visited and spoke about some of these things. what we can talk about here today, if you could go into it, if you can't, you can't, but i think that this is important for the people in the room and listening outside to understand. is it true that the nsa would need a court order based on probable cause to conduct electronic surveillance on a u.s. person inside the united states? >> yes, sir. >> just to be clear, the section of the fisa that is expiring later this year, that's 702, which we'll be talking about a little bit, cannot be used to target u.s. persons or persons in the united states; is that correct? >> yes, sir. >> section 702 focuses on non-u.s. persons outside the united states primarily, correct? >> yes, sir. >> do you believe that the section 702 is important and valuable for u.s. national security? >> yes, sir. >> so it's sa

executive order 1233, which allows employees need to know further unfettered access to raw data stowed by the nsa. this the new rules allowed nsa to sarah signals intelligence conversations including those involved in phone conversations and emails the, expansion of the order makes difficult to narrow on leaks and allows too many people access to raw data that was only available to a select few on a u.s. official granted unanimity and. reported on fbi investigation and trump advisors and mcclatchy revealed existence of multiagency working group to coordinate investigations across the thing. on february 14th, "new york times" referring to phone records and intercepted calls. let me quote them. american law enforcement intelligence agency intercepted communications around the same time they were discovering evidence russia was trying to disrupt the press decks election hacking into the democratic national committee three officials said. the intelligence agencies thought to it learn whether the trump campaign was colluding with the russians on hacking or other efforts to influence the election. the

i think we see similarly that the nsa has the capacity and is actively data mining everything we do.the difference. was there a specific person or persons targeted at trump tower? we are hearing today that possibly there weren't. but yet we still do know that there was a fisa request in june that was turned down and a fisa request that was accepted. what was that for? clearly they had to be naming someone, right? >> i have asked this to a couple people on the intel committees. does electronic communication reside currently in u.s. government servers in various intelligence agencies that came from or was going to trump tower during the campaign? you can't get anybody to categorically say no. a spying effort against the trump campaign? not necessarily but it raises an important question appeared to what extent is the u.s. government spying on its own citizens? >> eric: just hone in on that accepted fisa weren't offered in october before the election. they had to have -- if you are going to spy or surveilled an american, you need a positive warrant from the fisa court, and they got it.

this is the same man that testified under oath before congress that the nsa and the government was not collecting datacan-americans. i would say give the men fit of the doubt to the president. let's wait before we keep saying that he is wrong. all i'm saying is -- >> i'm not saying he is wrong. i'm saying he has shown no evidence, that the former president, which is what he said, in no uncertain terms. he didn't say the obama administration. he didn't say the fbi. didn't say the cia. he said the former president. an he said he was sad and i forget what the quote was. he called it said and a bad guy and said it was like watergate. that's a horrible assertion. a serious assertion to make about anyone. do you see at least -- at the very least, how the president of the united states should be a bit more careful about who or what organizations he makes accusations about? >> i think he should be serious about it. and he told me there will be an investigation or he wants an investigation. i'm not here to say the allegation is true. imhere to say look at what it is. you look at what the obama people keep sayi

story which may have led to confusion about what the nsa is and is not legally collecting and the safe guards put in place to protect personal data. i'd like to clarify as chairman of the subcommittee on the nsa, i recently got to meet your deputy admiral last week and we vitsed and spoke about some of those things. what we can talk about here today publicly. if you can't, you can't, but i think that this is important for the people and listening outside understand. is it true the nsa would need a court order based on probable cause to conduct electronic surveillance on a u.s. person inside the united states? >> yes, sir. >> and just to be clear, the section of the fisa that is expiring later this year that 702, which we'll be talking about a little bit, cannot be used to target u.s. persons or persons in the united states; is that correct? >> yes, sir. >> section 702 focuses on non-u.s. persons outside the united states primarily, correct? >>. >> yes, sir. >> do you believe section 70 is important and valuable for u.s. national security? >> yes, sir. >> so it's safe to say without having this tool, it would be a threat to our na

. >> does the nsa collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of americans? >> no, sir. >> it does not? >> not wittingly. there are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps collect but not wittingly. >> that was a big story at the time because that statement was not true. >> flat out not true. so a lot of people accuse clapper of lying to congress because of that but he clearly didn't tell the truth in that particular exchange. >> bill: let me try and cut through a lot of this and go to two critical points here. every time the story had been reported over the weekend it was reported as president trump does blah, blah, blah without evidence. we must also add that the claims of the trump campaign colluding with the russians during the campaign is also without evidence, correct or not? >> yes. as a matter of fact -- >> bill: what do we know now? >> we don't know anything in the clip on the wiretapping he said he saw no evidence of collusion and was the head of the intelligence community and that investigation has been going for months. >> bill: there was a s

. >> so, if the nsa is possible listening to a foreign entity, say a russian and donald trump's conversations or those of his associates were swept up in that collection of data? >> yes, that is another possibility, willie. which is if the nsa was, for example, surveilling or listening to russians overseas and the overseas target were the target of the surveillance and they happen to be talking to people in trump's office in new york, that could have been swept up. the intelligence agency calls it inadvertent collection. th privacy is protected and basically the americans' names are blacked out. that's different than what the president suggested here. he suggested his office was the target of the surveillance. again, in that case, you would need a federal judge to approve that. >> the last option is that president trump made the whole thing up. jeremy bash, thank you so much, appreciate your time. let me turn to chuck todd. moderator of "meet the press." chuck, good morning. wednesday morning when the reviews of donald trump's speech came in of the joint session of congress, they were glowing. let's be honest. a lot of us said, let's pump the brakes and see w

remember we first learned of the american people fird learned of all this cata this digital data nsald sweep up on global bays america might be -- american people became concerned, what if this was ever turned against us? >> that is a really interesting point, the question that we are waiting on is the proof, that some -- from president trump administration from tweets what are they going to back that up with does he have that proof what do you make of that. >> i think there is -- again, if information coming all it appears that there is evidence of that we know that, how did we know that a take a look what happened with michael flynn 8 years 6 1/2 years that i was in the leadership on the intel committee -- was a -- you know, extremely rare circumstance where we might have seen, the content of a -- an american captured through foreign swainz we would have seen the transcript that does not happen very often, but all of a sudden you've got one of the key i advisories to the president-elect where his conversations were not only swept up, it appears that they were disseminmated fairly w

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the public about what the nsa is it andot legally collecting the safeguards the nsa has put in place to protect personal data. i would like to clarify the chairman of the subcommittee on the nsa. i recently got to meet your deputy admiral last week out of the nsa. we spoke to some of these things. will we can talk about here , i think it is important for the people in the room and listening outside understand. is through the nsa would need a court order based on probable cause to conduct electronic surveillance on a u.s. person inside the united states? >> yes sir. >> just to be clear, the section of the fisa that is expiring later this year, 702, which we will be talking about a little bit, cannot be used to target u.s. persons or persons in the u.s.. is that correct? >> yes sir. >> section 702 focuses on non-us persons outside the united states primarily, correct? >> yes sir. >> you believe the section 702 is important and valuable for u.s. national security? >> yes sir. >> it is safe to say that without having this tool, it would be a threat to our national security. >> it would impact the ability to gene