the role specifically played by its chair, devin nunes. please, walk us through this. >> yeah. so, everyone i spoke to for this article pointed to the same moment, where the committee and the investigation started to unravel. the committee was actually fairly bipartisan and was really fairly cooperative before the russia investigation was launched. the moment this really started to all break down was when devin nunes, the republican chairman, made the midnight run to the white house last march, where he was called by someone at the white house, invited over to view classified material that allegedly showed that the obama administration had improperly surveilled members of the trump transition team. from that point onward, members of the house intel committee, democrats and, of course, outside onlookers, saw it as tainted. there was really -- that became the point of no return. the democrats viewed nunes with suspicion, like he was cooperating with the white house in trying to stymie the investigation. republicans didn't like how adam

nunes wants a clean copy of that memo, without black sections, the redaction's. after anti-trump text messages were discovered. a leading national security defense attorney told officials "they could share it in a secure facility, if they have concerns about sensitive or classified information, because like all government agencies, even the fbi should be subject to oversight." >> when you see the inspector general's report, you are going to see why they are hiding these kind of things. and the different things that happened, they are not very proud of. fbi has done some terrible things in the past. not comparing any person but they need to be held accountable, just like anybody else. >> the republican chair devin nunes has set a deadline next week, or else the chairman may enforced existing subpoenas. >> harris: mike emanuel, thank you very much. always great to see you, let's start with the obvious, nunes can go ahead and commissioned those subpoenas. is he serious? >> if they want to play games and they don't want to release information, mr. nunes knows a lot m

and that devin nunes, a tough a really tough chairman. really good chairman, should just go right ahead and start the process. these people deserve it. what business do they have keeping from congress the documents that congress is entitled to, this is a cause for impeachment. lou: the responsibility of congress under constitution to be an oversight over justice department. and in idea that comey and mueller, rod rosenstein and others are statin stated startit created a chorus of we're an independent agency we don't report to anyone, they are a rogue department, and agency. >> more than that, i think, my husband and i have been saying if for some time now, there was a ca-- to clear hillary clinton she don didn't get indictment. if that did not work to frame donald trump. and look how that happened. framing. lou: as stark and as struck and page -- strzok and page pointed out that was the insurance policy, it clear that cabal was formed during obama administration, set in motion by president obama in my judgment, and his attorney general th

it is without devin nunes and solely nunes among those true, it is truly to nunes that we owe a greatinuing to search for the truth and serving the constitution by insisting on oversight. no one else has had those guts. >> lou, the republic owe as great debt to nunes. that goes without saying. you're absolutely right. lou: as we look at talks with the north koreas at the highest level, as the president put. we've seen president xi defer, at least seem to defer publicly as kim jong-un is talking about sitting down with the president and having serious discussions at a summit. the president's actions in syria. this president is manifestly in charge of foreign policy and the counter walling that we once heard has at least ebbed to slight sniffles of despair on the part of the left. >> you know the president as well as anybody. he's an unstoppable steam locomotive. and what he's done in asia, in europe with regards to isis, with regards to all of our old alliances, with regards to israel. it's absolutely remarkable. it's truly quite amazing. lou: dr. sebastian gorka, always good to see yo

the nunes letter does reference the leaking.nformation but law enforcement sources have not been shy about licking to the press. we will keep an eye on it. sticker democrats were never saying let's get back to governing when the narrative was trump and russia. >> shannon: panel, please come back. we have other hot topics. no punching. just verbal punching. when candidates try to out trump each other, what does that tell you about the blue wave? we will tackle that next. with key nutrients that address 6 concerns of aging, including heart health, supported by b-vitamins. your one a day is showing. the 3-poiand so does this.game. the new 3-point rib bloom, only $12.99. signature barbecue ribs and cheese fries on top of our bloomin' onion. available for a limited time. outback steakhouse. aussie rules. are finding themselves morin a chevroletple for the first time. trying something new can be exciting. empowering. downright exhilarating. see for yourself why chevrolet is the most awarded and fastest growing brand, the last four yea

nunes set a deadline april 11th.iven what we have seen from rosenstein, it's probably going to be a long time before the house intel committee gets to see this. the level of obstruction and protection, the incestuous nature of the relationships, this is beyond disgraceful. rosenstein has done everything possible that he can do to prevent congress from doing their job which is oversight. they have constitutional not only right but duty to do so. it's time for rod rosenstein to stop hiding the truth from the american people. his boss is the attorney general jeff sessions. and jeff sessions rightly said last week that he is angry at the slow pace that these documents are being turned over. well, you know what? well, the attorney general needs to do something about it. if the attorney general is angry, he needs to take action and force the deputy a.g. rosenstein to do his job. if rosenstein doesn't want to, then he needs to go. because that is how our government is supposed to work congress needs to be able to get answer

from seeing the documents that later became the nunes memo.osenstein clearly has his way, we wouldn't know anything about rampant fisat abuses. he has a major conflict of interest in all of this, he should have recused himself and he should be removed now. that is by congressman nunes is doing, you know, these things, which are so important. the fbi, rod rosenstein, if they want and continue to obstruct congress from conducting oversight, then nunes needs to issue more subpoenas and hold these people and contempt. the deep state is scared to death because they know the truth is now being uncovered and what they did is now being exposed and also, we know it to be illegal. also tonight, house judiciary committee aid is telling fox news again, the doj has failed to meet, in this case, chairman bob goodlatte's deadline to turn over 1.2 million documents. this is now obstruction on their part. congress has a constitutional role. it is called oversight. it is called checks and balances. it's called coequal branches of government. remember? this is w

chairman nunes is given the bureau, the d.o.j. until next wednesday to cooperate and he is going to issue subpoenas. i have a better idea. how about we hold rod rosenstein in contempt to congress? he is the one stonewalling. i have never seen such a level of stonewalling. it's led by rosenstein and reaching unprecedented levels. it seems that rosenstein is terrified that the american people are going to find out the truth about all the nefarious activities of the top-ranking f.b.i./d.o.j. officials were doing against the trump campaign. in other words, his friends. remember, rosenstein is the guy groveling for paul ryan in january and begging the speaker to prevent nunes from seeing the documents that later became the nunes memo. rosenstein clearly has his way we wouldn't know anything about the rampant fisa abuses. he has a major conflict of interest in all of this. he should have recused himself and he should be removed now. that is why congressman nunes is doing, you know, these things which are so important. if the f.b.i. and

never. >> today, yesterday when we learned what devin nunes discovered. not only was there no probable cause evidence for a criminal investigation of trump. to comey had tried to be clever to do a intelligence probe. devin nunes uncovered the secret and discovered there wasn't any evidence. >> sean: let me give sean the last word. >> larry is right. they have to be careful. the dnc lawsuit is another fake, phony attempt to raise money. they are setting an awful, bad press event that is going to come back to bite them. >> sean: good to see you. abc news made. trace gallagher updates us on the help of george h.w. bush. he has been hospitalized. morehead of non-drowsy claritin and relief from symptoms caused by over 200 allergens. like those from buddy. because stuffed animals are clearly no substitute for real ones. feel the clarity and live claritin clear. why people everywhere are upgrading their water filter to zerowater. start with water that has a lot of dissolved solids. pour it through brita's two-stage filter. dissolved solids remain? what if we fil

never. >> today, yesterday when we learned what devin nunes discovered.ot only was there no probable cause evidence for a criminal investigation of trump, comey had tried to be clever to do a counter intelligence probe. you have to have intelligence for that but it is always secret. devin nunes uncovered the secret and discovered there wasn't any evidence.de >> sean: let me give sean the last word.sc >> larry is right. they have to be careful. the dnc lawsuit is another fake, phony attempt to raise money. they are setting an awful, bad precedent that is going to come back to bite them. >> sean: good to see you. and into that office thank you. a busy news night. trace gallagher updates us on the health of george h.w. bush. he has been hospitalized. a horrific incident in toronto, much more, straight ahead. if you are new to toujeo, that's something to groove about. ♪ let's groove tonight. ♪ share the spice of life. from the makers of lantus, ♪ baby slice it right. toujeo provides blood sugar- lowering activity all day, all night, and beyond, proven blood s

i think devin nunes is right, mark meadows is right. bob goodlatte is right.t we need from these officials they need to be shown they are not above the law and they will be held accountable. lou: holding them accountable is a tough thing. we are watching a special counsel who apparently decided to turn a special counsel investigation into a complete and utter farce. but now farce. going after stormy fields play mates and video. that was apparently behind the mule her inspired raid on the president's personal attorney. this is ignorance beyond belief. >> it's obvious to the american people that we are no longer investigating crimes or allegations of crimes. we are just investigating people. that some those in the deep state don't like or think might be able to harm president trump. we have to restore the rule of law by focusing this investigation on whatever scintilla of truth it may be based on and without the documents that provide the basis for the beginning of this investigation. i'm glad president trump is using the bully pulpit to defend himself. it's ent

nunes and the fbi in the past.is argument that this dossier that was prepared for political operations was the cause of the investigation when, in fact, the democrats on his own committee say no, that's not the case. it goes way earlier than that. way earlier than the appearance of the dossier. so, he may be trying to kind of foster a particular position that brings into question the fbi investigation. >> arthel: so, are we to believe that the fbi and the doj, they have been taken over by political pursuit in the law -- the letter of the law tossed out the window or is this a reflection of the break down of trust between the doj, the fbi, and congress? >> well, i think it's politics. and in politics, there will be efforts to discredit your opponent. and that's kind of normal to the political process. it's a little scary sometimes when institutions are attacked like this. i think the way to view this is to step back, robert mueller is pursuing a very diligent investigation. he has gotten indictments from a grand jur

guess what, nunes is still waiting. >> thanks. a lot there. let's bring in a member of the house judiciary committee. he's unfor governor in the fine state of florida. thanks for being here. i know your chairman is not satisfied with the volume or speed d.o.j. has produced. where are we on their ability to produce documents that you need to see? >> they are dragging their feet. not only with the judiciary committee, but with deven nunes on the intel committee. if you were the subject of a justice department civil enforcement action and they were subpoenaing documents from you, you would not be able to get away with these excuses. you have to produce the stuff. it doesn't work that the government has a different set of rules. the question is, are we going to actually put the might of our institution behind these subpoenas and enforce them. you remember when the i.r.s. was dragging its feet, we held them in contempt. guys like me tried to impeach the i.r.s. commissioner for stone walling, it didn't get through congress. so we have certain tools

lou: to devin nunes. chairman of house intel committee, saying there was no intelligence that was the foundation of special counsel investigation, that means for almost a year now, there has been perpetrated something of a excessive response to what it turns out was a fake dossier. >> lou, do you know the bomb shell of a interview that was for maria bartiromo. i watched that, my jaw dropped to the floor. and i think maria felt the same thing. i probably watched that interview 4 or 5 timesy. he said so many things in there, that are incredible. that president elect, a presidential candidate, and a political part to barack obama and hillary clinton were spied on using massive power of u.s. government, with zero evidence documented in the fbi file. that is -- that is incredible. that should be on front page of every newspaper across the globe. lou: well, point of fact, this broadcast we fell that way for a very long time. we have reported it. but, there has not been one irky on thea of evidence -- iota of ev

we're back with congressman devon nunes chairman of the house intel committee and mr. chairman your thoughts your reaction to this lawsuit. >> well my first thought is that is this some kind of joke. this must be a joke. we know who colluded with russians. they don't want to admit that they colluded with russians, but they hired fusion gps, they hired a law firm that hired fusion gps that hired a british spy that colluded with russians so i don't understand why they didn't just open up a lawsuit against themselves they should name themselves so they can get to the bottom of what do they have on their servers, why didn't they give those servers to the fbi. this is nothing more, nothing less than a continuation of fundraising off of this scandal. this is made to play to the far left in this country, so that the far left will continue to right check because they don't believe that president trump won the election fair and square. because the media, most of the media in this country has continued this narrative there was collusion, there was obstruction that trump was some

devin nunes has the highest classification of security because of his position.n see anything anybody in the entire u.s. government can see for them to pretend it's got to somehow be redacted. it's utter nonsense. they are hiding something and time for us to find out what they're hiding. >> sandra: april 11th is the deadline and then it's subpoena time. >> maria: i think the fbi probably will turn this over. again there is a lot of speculation what's in it. none of us have seen it there is indication there is counter intelligence information there are intercepts. there are intelligent sources and methods in there which i'm sure is part of what is driving the fbi and we all should know why this was started. and get rid of some of the speculation. because, really easy to speculate when none of us have seen it. >> katie: the fbi also made the claim that they had to protect national security information and court intelligence methods when they wanted to not allow the house intelligence committee to release the memo with president trump's permission. we all remember t

nunes, trey gowdy, other members have constitutional oversight authority. joining us now former u.s. attorney for the district of columbia, joe did you know bob alan dershowitz, good to see yo you. you've had a busy 36 hours. let's go back a little bit till yesterday. i really want your take one and fbi director compares a sitting president to a mob boss. >> it proves the point of my book "trumped up." you can find evidence to create or manufacture crimes that gives anybody, if you're determined to do it. that's what's wrong with the special counsel. they come in with targets painted on people's back. people like comey and mueller are going to find crimes. whether they have to go and try to find a technical violation, banking laws upon which they can hook pornography stars or things of that kind. even your account which was metaphorical in part, proves again if you are determined to find crimes against everybody, you can do it. that's why we have to restrict and limit the application of the criminal law to clear, unequivocal crimes and don't use it against

they throw up collusion and nunes does this. bottom line, to kennedy's point, there's as much evidence in april 2018 of collusion as there was in january 2017. watching the media trying to create a watergate out of this is like watching a champ do a crossword puzzle. it's not going to happen. let it go. it's like soccer. it is 0-0 at half. >> jason: i love soccer. >> greg: i know, jason. >> jason: it's a beautiful game. >> greg: but it is 0-0 at half half. stay high that's why he gave you the thing about the penalty kick. >> greg: scoring doesn't matter? >> juan: one thing i want to say is why is nunes using this to try to get money from his donors? i don't get it. why be politicizing it? >> kennedy: they all politicize it. they all do. >> juan: some employees at google going to war with our government. as a putting politics before national security? that's next on "the five" ." after a dvt blood clot... i sure had a lot on my mind. my 30-year marriage... ...my 3-month old business... plus...what if this happened again? i was gi

congressman nunes, i have to give you credit. it always comes to a crisis and then rod rosenstein come at the last second, for whatever reason, he camejo finally handed over. after he begged paul ryan not to harm the ever will became the nunes memo. you said to maria bartiromo this weekend that there was no intelligence, none come as the basis for the start of the russian probe? >> let me start by saying, to mark's point, they shouldn't wait. they need to enforce the subpoenas immediately. mr. gowdy and mr. goodlatte. you wait and wait and wait and pretty soon there will be an election and i think the department of justice, fbi are banking on democrats taking over so that all these investigations can be shut down. as it relates to what i said over the weekend, it remains true. we have not seen any intelligence, credible intelligence that started this investigation. it's why we are investigating the state department for a number of reasons. >> sean: let me ask you, is it going to take a contempt order from -- are they going to be

we learned it from the now notorious nunes memo. legal fallout from that publication of that dossier is still making its way through the courts. on friday, three russian oligarchs filed a fresh lawsuit against the dossier's author, former british spy christopher steele, today we learned in another lawsuit, a federal judge has asked the dutch government for help in getting two dutch bankers to testify under oath. a lot of moving parts here including players literally from all over the world. >> shannon: again, more questions than answers as these developments come. thank you very much. let's bring in constitutional attorney robert burns and utah republican congressman chris stewart, who sits on the house intelligence committee. gentlemen, welcome to both of you tonight. >> good evening. speak you >> shannon: congressmi will start with you. you further back and forth, there is no original intelligence that led to this, and the ranking members there, congressman adam schiff saying the republicans will do anything to discredit the agenc

representative nunes who has shown his partisanship repeatedly, and others, went so far to threaten mr. rosenstein with contempt of congress if he didn't hand over comey's memos and other documents related to special counsel mueller's investigation. mr. rosenstein gave him that information which, of course, was leaked afterwards out into the press. it is not justice department protocol, nor any other prosecutor's protocol, to share information beyond the investigation. it just welcomes interference. that's true even with the most objective of those who get the information, which i think 95% of america believes congressman nunes is not objective. it is not hard to understand why we don't do this, and yet several house republicans have smeared mr. rosenstein and even threatened his job unless he broke with the longstanding prosecutorial guidelines giving him the ammunition to twist. it is just disgraceful and not consistent with us being a democracy where there's rule of law. more consistent with a bullying attitude that we see in nondemocrat, small d, countries. deputy attorney general

>> sean: congressman nunes, your thoughts on what it's going to take?> i do think we are at the point where congress has to exercise its full authority. immediate subpoenas, immediate contempt. if you have to move to impeachment, do that. as mark just said, as mr. meadows just said, i do believe that the president at this point should step in, should take his authority as the executive officer of this country, and make sure that the united states congress has provided all of the documentation immediately. that's only because,s just look at all of the examples that are out there that go back a year and a half now that we were stalled on. tonight you broke news again,lff it's true that mr. richman was an employee of the fbi, that's n something we had no idea. we did not know that. don't you think we should have known that since we've been investigating it for a year and a half? >> sean: i have to run. up to three people may have gotten this information?ow t i want to thank you both because you are fighting for theeo truth and i know you both have taken a

it really is devin nunes who has taken us on. and to uncover why a presidential campaign was being investigated. he is the chairman of the intel committee and has looked at the raw data and has come up with this. there was no intelligence use. we will talk about that this morning. and what that means. with house majority leader kevin mccarthy in the studio this morning. in the avenue strategies a partner. don't miss a moment of it. we have a lot on the table this morning to talk about. investors are waiting for the parent company to report earnings after the closing tonight after the technology giant gears up to report the results they have adjusted earnings of $9.28 per share on revenue of $30.29 billion. it's kicking off a big tech earning splits on wall street. we also have amazon coming out on thursday. mike murphy your thoughts. when you see a move in big tech. google and alphabet will come out with earnings today. we will underlie underline strength in these companies. really very thoughtful in the tech sector. now if you h

devin nunes on the intel committee. here's the thing, pete if you were the subject of civil enforcement and they were subpoenaing documents to you, you would not be able to get away with these excuses if you were a private business. you would have to produce the stuff doesn't work the forecast has a different set of rules. the question is are we going to put the might of our institution behind these subpoenas and enforce them. you remember, when the irs was dragging its feet we held lois learner contempt but didn't physical through with it we have certain tools at our disposal. we can use the power of the purse and hold officials in contempt. if they're still incals trant we can impeach civiles officers. we have to be willing to do that. otherwise any will run out the clock on this stuff. >> pete: have you representatives, political appointees in these departments appointed by president trump. i actually had the opportunity about an hour ago to speak to a senior doj official involved in these matters they point out a co

why not call devin nunes and say do you like what they gave you?is not in the habit of keeping things quiet when they play to his advantage. >> why can't we see them? >> that's a separate issue. i agree with you, but it's a separate issue. i agree with your take but it's a separate issue. your man has seen them. he's in the habit of saying things advantageous that this is all bogus. why hasn't he come out and why haven't you asked him? >> why are they telling people directly elected by the american people to the united states congress they can't see information? >> i hear you on that. >> why doesn't rod rosenstein write a letter changing the parameters and it's all he redacted. congress can't see it. this is the part that drives americans crazy particularly looking at the underlying concerns here. >> that's one thing. >> a dossier that was salacious, unproven dossier. >> parts were unproven. >> parts were salacious. >> the author of the work product had had his work product terminated with the fbi. for wha reason? he leak said infon.atio they tell

my attitude is like devin nunes. if things don't change dramatically, i am talking days, not weeks or months. if they don't change dramatically than impeachment and contempt and resignations should all be on the table because we are tired of it. more important, the american people are tired of it. >> laura: when you say impeachment, resignation, firing, who are we talking abou about? >> talking about the guys were supposed to be running the department of justice. jeff sessions and rod rosenstein. they are supposed to be in charge. they are supposed to give us information. never forget the underlying issue. they took an opposition research document, dressed it up and made it look like legitimate intelligence, took it to a secret court to get a secret warrant test by a fellow citizen associate with the trim campaign and they didn't tell the court who paid for the document and more importantly in those renewals and the fisa court, they didn't tell the court that the author of the document, christopher steele, had his re

nunes wanted a clean copy without seconds blacked out -- sections blacked out, fox news of told that memo was likely drafted by fbi agent strzok. the national security defense attorney said that bureau could share memo in a secure facility, known as a skip. there are concerns about classified information adding that even the bureau requires oversight. >> not like they could not give him this information. you know, i think when you see the inspector general's report, you will see why they are hiding these things, and different things that happened there, they are not proud of. reporter: republican chairman has said a deadline of a week for a clean copy of fbi memo or chairman may enforce exist could subpoenas, fox news asked for comment and was no immediate response, we'll bridg brisk it u if we get new information. lou: thank you catherine herridge. joining us, congressman ron desantos, a member of several key committees, including oversight, government reform, foreign affairs, judiciary, one of the largest committee portfolios in war washington -- of washington, your reaction to the

nunes among others said it was too heavily redacted. they couldn't make headses or tails of it. justice department has given them now something that is very lightly redact and only eliminates the name of a foreign country and a foreign agent because of the cooperation they were getting from another country and so that is blacked out. i guess in its place it simply says foreign country, foreign agent. but otherwise, they pretty much have what they waned. >> nbc news justice correspondent pete williams, thank you very much. >> you bet. >> a lot more to get to on this crazy day of news. my wonderful panel have been sitting here patiently and biting their tongue. i want your reaction to all this. we'll have that right after we get back from this break. >>> welcome back. the all in special day 447, it feels like 4,459.9 days of the trump administration but it's 447. i want to actually before we bring in hans nickles who is our pentagon correspondent and talk about what is happening with the latest planning for strikes in syria. i want to get to that in a second. before we get to that

house intel chair devin nunes oversight committee chair trey gowdy, and bob goodlot set a deadline remanding unredacted copies from james comey memos about his meeting with president trump. it appears that comey's book relies in part of on the memos, republican leadership that memos should be made available to the public as well. catherine herridge live tonight in washington with latest for us. >> good evening lou. >> deadline came and went, with no indication from the 3 house committee chairman that the justice department handed over the comey memos, lawmakers want access to all 7 memos after some were leaked to media by friend of comeys, and former fbi director talk the last night. >> president tweeted, calling

top store, deep state never ending destruction of the trump administration, nunes today wrote a letter to rod rosenstein, and fbi director christopher wray demanding they produce an unpredacked copy of july 2016 memorandum that started so-called russia collusion probe, congress nunes threatening subpoenas if the fbi continues to refuse to deliver the document. fox news chief correspondent catherine herridge live in washington. >> thank you. >> fox news obtained this letter, congress is still having trouble getting records despite promises of cooperation from fbi director and deputy attorney general. republican chairman of house intelligence committee requesting and denied july 2016 fbi memo that kick-started the probe. nunes wanted a clean copy without seconds blacked out -- sections blacked out, fox news of told that memo was likely drafted by fbi agent strzok. the national security defense attorney said that bureau could share memo in a secure facility, known as a skip. there are concerns about classified information adding that even the bureau requires oversight. >> not like they co

and so we're going to have devin nuÑes on the program here next hour.'s going to tell us what he thinks about what the justice department has turned over, what they haven't turned over, what he still wants to see. abby: i think the big question there is did they have good enough evidence to get surveillance on carter page. pete: yeah. we want to see the actual application, and now members of congress other than just the committee are going to be able to see out thanks to the justice department allowing a broader view which is all -- i mean, we can ask for more than that, but it's a good start. abby: all right, some headlines i do want to bring starting with a fox news alert. one person is dead and six firefighters hurt after a fire rips through trump tower right here in new york city. you can see the flames there shooting out from an apartment on the 50th floor. art dealer todd brasner pulled out of the home and unfortunately later died. no members of the first family were there at the time. president trump tweeting about the blaze and thank the firefig

nunes among others said it was too heavily redacted. they couldn't make headses or tails of it.tice department has given them now something that is very lightly redact and only eliminates the name of a foreign country and a foreign agent because of the cooperation they were getting from another country and so that is blacked out. i guess in its place it simply says foreign country, foreign agent. but otherwise, they pretty much have what they waned. >> nbc news justice correspondent pete williams, thank you very much. >> you bet. >> a lot more to get to on this crazy day of news. my wonderful panel have been sitting here patiently and biting their tongue. i want your reaction to all this. we'll have that right after we get back from this break. and tank. and tiny. and this is laura's mobile dog grooming palace. laura can clean up a retriever that rolled in foxtails, but she's not much on "articles of organization." articles of what? so, she turned to legalzoom. they helped me out. she means we helped with her llc, trademark, and a lot of other legal stuff that's a part of runnin

republicans didn't like how adam schiff was going on television, rebutting the claims by nunes. there was the friction that all stemmed from that moment that devin nunes went to the white house and began his more direct communication with the president. that, of course, was the jumping off point, then we saw what happened during the committee over the course of the year, which was just leaks, press conferences and kind of overall dysfunction. >> natasha, thanks for your great reporting on this. "atlantic" staff writer and msnbc contributor. >>> when we come back, scott pruitt again defending himself from the controversies surrounding him. we're learning more about why an epa lawyer did not flag some of pruitt's spending. details next. you're watching "velshi & ruhle." it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do? drive three-quarters of a car? now if you had liberty mutual new car replacement™, you'd get your whole car back. i guess they don't want you driving around on three wheels. smart.