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walls are bad, o'rourke explained.ot just because they intern perfectly decent japanese people but because they literally commit murder. rather we commit murder when we build walls. as o'rourke put it, if you construct a barrier along the southern border, "you will ensure death. you and i as americans have caused the deaths of others through these walls." let that settle. whoa! we killed people. we didn't even know it. that is pretty heavy. how many people did we kill? should we turn ourselves in to the authorities or prepare for life on the lam? do we need passports? extra security? does paraguay have extradition treaty? so many questions. but the real question is what the hell is beto o'rourke talking about? it's not like he is pretending to know. he makes it perfectly clear he has no idea what he is saying. that is okay. he is not embarrassed about it. when the "washington post" asked o'rourke what he would do about illegal aliens oversaying their visas, a huge part of the immigration crisis he answered this way. "i

the biggest contender in the group is beto o'rourke.e nearly beat ted cruz in a senate race this fall. democrats love him for that. affluent progressives on the coast love him best.de he is one of them. in the betting markets, o'rourke is the favorite to win the democratic nomination. two years from now he plausibly could be in the oval office. so it's work taking beto o'rourke seriously. what kind of president would he be? at this point we can only guess. we know like most people in his social class he is totally against border walls. >> we will fought when necessary against a president focused on building walls. >> no wall is going to solve legitimate security concerns. then perhaps you can be forgiven thinking that a wall will solve the problem. >> we in el paso are ashamed of this now. but this is one of those moments where the folks in germany look back on the berlin wall or the united states looks back on the project to intern japanese americans in world war ii. >> tucker: did you hear that? berlin wall, bad. border wall, also bad

o'rourke's been out of a job. writing, in and out of a funk. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: if baeto o'rourke s running for president, he's not saying so. he's also not saying what he would do. that's hardly stopping a frenzy for an event whether he heeds the call of those three words is feeling one of the biggest questions of the 2020 country. today from kansas he posted, have been stuck lately. in and out of a fupg. he added the journey might clear my head, think my thought, break out of the loop i've been stuck in. he's trying to create his own video, one viral video at the time. if he jumps into the race a decision his friends say he'll be likely to run as he did this time. >> we're going to take you to the rec center and show you where the border is. >> here in el paso he's selling his authenticity don't answer an essential question. he's blasted border trump that i have. >> when asked what he should do, he said, i don't know. steve o'rourke said his friend is flattered. >> why is he ready to be president? i think that's w

beto o'rourke for president makes sense. >> martha: except maybe to beto o'rourke. november fifth. >> i won't be a candidate for president in 2020. >> martha: how do you get around that? >> you look at the guys he will be running against. politicians change their minds. we all change your minds when different situations crop up. things change. opportunities present themselves. this is an opportunity that presented itself. when an opportunity like this comes along you have to seize it. i don't think you can sit here and say, beto o'rourke went back on something when we is running against a guy who changes his mind from one minute to the next. just look at the speech the president will give tonight. >> martha: we will see. tyler, last question for you, if president trump ran on make america great again what would be the theme for beto o'rourke? >> inspire america. >> martha: to do what? >> when they go low -- we are pretty low right now. we are pretty divided. we need somebody who can bring us together. president obama did that in the last administration. brought us t

>> yes. >> the top three on the iowa poll, biden, sanders, o'rourke. of the lessons from 2018 especially in the democratic party is women and minorities. how big of a push will there be, do you think, in the primary to see the candidate be a woman? >> i think there will be a big push from the base and certainly from special interest groups. another way to think about this, though, is if you look at the favorable to unfavorable ratio that you see because, remember, people like camilkamala harris have high name reblng anything at the point. you see her jump all the way up to number two and you see joe biden still at number one but it looks a lot more like ur rankings with booker and o'rourke up there. i think that that to me is an indication that once these candidates get better known, harris, gillibrand, they will end up being able to come up in the polls more so than the current numbers indicate. >> which is why we have camilla number one. someone who is on this air often, not you, john, or you alisyn, but someone who's initials are c.c. often sends me

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let me get your thoughts in the way beto o'rourke responded.ook at how beto responded in that setting on facebook with two of his neighbors, compared to the response you saw from chuck schumer, nancy pelosi, compare and contrast those two for us with the president's messaging. >> yeah, you know, it's a really odd communications for him, forum for president, this guy has been innovative how he communicates with the public. he uses twitter with abandon at lots of odd hours. he also has been known to call up reporters personally. but this was a very traditional sometime of presidential address. i don't think it played to his strengths, such as they are. whereas a guy like beto o'rourke is young and he's kind of savvy about social media and was kind of cool in a way to see him kicking back with his neighbors on a couch and dropping f-bombs and got a little beard there. i like that. it was interesting. i think he looked a lot more comfortable in his own skin than chuck and nancy who kind of had that american gothic style, i don't know what that was.

i don't know, o'rourke said, pausing in an interview. when it comes to many of the biggest policy issues facing the country today, o'rourke's default stance is to call for a debate. i don't know? it's his district. >> i also think to some degree having no solid position to get pinned down on and hammered on isn't the worst thing in the world. yes, he's going to have to figure out the answers to those questions if he decides to run for president, but there is no necessarily clear model or clear box to how people declare to run, decide to run or when at this point in time. so it's tough to say he's not doing the right thing now or it's the wrong way to go about it. who knows? and is he authentic? >> trump proved you can go a long way by flouting the sort of, you know, political sort of overly political thing that a lot of these other candidates are checking off all the right political boxes. he's sort of not doing that and maybe that will come across as refreshing. >> maybe. maybe as he travels. he's gone from kansas. maybe he'll go to kan

what beto o'rourke and company want our positive rights.shrined in the constitution the obligation of the government, the government doesn't own anything. the obligation of the government to provide goods like an education, healthcare, a gym membership and broccoli. those are not rights, their goods. but in the world of beto o'rourke, by calling them rights, it seems that government should provide them. so he is rejecting -- >> government is providing them. that means i have to get them from somewhere. >> to get the from us, from taxpayers. >> so they take them for us! >> correct. and candidly and sadly that's our government. i will say this, the government is marching his direction. even under donald trump, getting bigger, texting more, spending more, regulating more, giving more things away. and calling the things it gives away, which are really goods, that someone has to pay for, rights. by calling them rights, it sounds like the government has the obligation to provide them. that is the trick of playing with words.call something somethi

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anyway, next up is texas congressman beto o'rourke. o'rourke fell short of unseating senator ted cruz but built a highly energetic base of supporters. here he is matching their enthusiasm while using some choice words. >> i want to thank this amazing campaign of people, not a dime from a single pac, all people, all the time in every single part of texas. all of you showing the country how you do this. [ cheers and applause ] i'm so [ bleep ] proud of you guys. >> there was another word there. the final nominee, utah congresswoman mia love. even before her loss was official, president trump criticized her for not having sufficiently embraced him. she took a parting shot at trump during her speech. >> the president's behavior towards me made me wonder, what did he have to gain by saying such a thing about a fellow republican? it was not really about asking him to do more, was it? or was it something else? well, mr. president, we'll have to chat about that. >> sam, jennifer, jason, dana are all back. to me the real feeling in politics com

o'rourke loses to ted cruz by two points, it's the best showing by a democrat in texas in a very long time, but if politics is judged by winning and losing, he lost, but look at 2020 polling in iowa, in new hampshire, nationally. beto o'rourke is in the top three, he is right up there with biden, bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, which is remarkable given that two years ago if we were doing this at the start of 2017, let's say, beto o'rourke is just some guy who is a member of congress from texas. no one had ever heard of him. he now has a chance to make a yes or no decision on president that will have a real impact. my guess is he probably runs because the timing works for him. >> how could you not when you have that amount of money and that momentum and that buzz. >> that and, alisyn, the other really important point to that is momentum matters hugely in politics and there is not another obvious race for him to run. >> your last winner is an entity which is often beaten up by the likes of alisyn camerota. polling. >> i am a pretty big defender of polling generally speaking, the broa

your next winner is also from upside down world, which is beto o'rourke o'rourke. he lost, i may remind you. >> here's what's interesting about politics. you can win by losing sometimes. if politics is judged by winning and losing, he lost. but look at 2020 polling in iowa and in new hampshire nationally. beto o'rourke is in the top three, which is remarkable given that two years ago if we were doing this at the start of 2017, he was just a guy that was a member of congress. he now has a chance to make a yes or no decision on president that will have an impact. my guess is he probably runs because the timing works for him. >> how can you not when you have that amount of money and momentum? >> momentum matters hugely in politics. and there is not another obvious race for him to run. >> your last winner is an entity often beaten up by the likes of alisyn camerota, polling. >> i am a pretty big defender of polling generally speaking. you can take a poll and say, wow, this really missed the mark. and they do at times. but i would say in 2016 polling took a giant hit in

the biggest contender in the group is beto o'rourke.e this fall. democrats love him for that.

but i have a little issue with the beto o'rourke phenomenon. stacey abrams did better than he did. >> it's a point that's been made a lot. >> because he's a white guy. let's say who it is. nobody is talking about stacey abrams. nobody is talking about andrew gillum. but this white guy does well and all of the sudden he is our savior. that's not his fault, but we have to as americans talk about that, because it underscores the racism and sexism that still exists in this society and is rampant in american politics. >> which brings me to the point so many of the polls show that the top of the ticket is voters prefer three white males runs for president. and for someone like me who is brought into the party by jesse jackson, by ron brown, who became the first african american head of the dnc, shirley chisholm and of course barack obama, i want to see more diversity on the ticket. if it's biden, let's just say, he'll be hard to beat but not impossible to beat. i think the number two position, the vp position is where you'll start to see a lot more c

this is the one and only beto o'rourke! to your speech. i love the way you are anybody but ted cruz. >> thank you. >> tell me this, beto, does it concern you that half your base thinks they can vote for you through instagram? ( laughter ) >> yeah, it's going to have to turn into real votes, but we're seeing a huge voter turnout so far. >> i'm worried about these voting machines changing beto's name to cruz. tell me this though: with the uncertainty surrounding these voting machines, is it now more important than ever for democrats to go out there and vote twice? ( laughter ) >> vote once, that's the law. >> fair enough! come on! this is the man! what does ted cruz have that you don't have besides the ability to regenerate his tail? ( laughter ) beto! beto! beto! beto! ( cheers and applause ) ♪ ♪ i'm here at the ted cruz rally, or a "duck dynasty" cosplay convention, i'm not 100% sure. ( laughter ) how confident are you that ted cruz will be elected? let's say one is not confident and ten is the highest you can count to. ( l

. >> everyone wondering whether beto o'rourke is going to throw his hat into the ring. thanks to both of you, appreciate it. >>> big announcement, tomorrow, elizabeth warren sits down with rachel maddow for her first meeting since considering a 2020 white house run. watch "rachel maddow show" tomorrow here on msnbc. >>> coming up, the new threat kim jong-un paired with an invitation for president trump. we'll delve into that when we come back. hat when we come back. at fidelity, our online u.s. equity trades are just $4.95. so no matter what you trade, or where you trade, you'll only pay $4.95. fidelity. open an account today.

this is in keeping with beto o'rourke's process.he thinks about 2020 and whether the time is right for him to enter the race. >> how much is money going to be a factor and not just how much money people have, but what they do with super pac money. i know you can't cross over between the campaign and the super pac, but there are ways to disavow the money spent on your behalf even though it still might be spent on your behalf. what factor is that going to be in this race in 2020 for the democrats? >> it's fascinating as i spent a lot of time on the campaign trail in 2018. so far as we look at the 2020 cycle, money and politics is an applause line in the same way it perhaps wasn't four or eight years ago. you have seen elizabeth warren said we as democrats need to lock arms and show we are the party of the grass roots and not bought and paid for. we are hearing from people talking to a lot of donors who are looking at people who can be the alternative to warren. they are looking at joe biden who has the former vice president has a lot

then bento o'rourke. that's part of me that thinks we need baseball cards. >> totally. >> so we can trade them. decide who's in and who's out. there's enough candidates where if we wanted to form a a presidential candidate baseball team, we could do that. perhaps we should just leave these guys, have them stick to politics. >> we thought we saw a lot of republicans on these debate stages in 2016. just wait with these democrats ahead of 2020. ryan, thank you so much with the faces, the baseball cards as it were. i want to go back to california and her facial launch in oakland. kamala harris not only outlined her platform, she blasted president trump and his policies without mentioning him once. >> when we have leaders who bulliened attack a free press and undermine our democratic institutions, that's not our america. we must seek truth, speak truth and fight for the truth. we will deliver the largest working and middle class tax cut in a generation. climate change is real. and it is happening now. mass inc

at the same time i think that's why you're seeing a lot of democrats look to beto o'rourke.em with him is he lost his senate bid. >> i also think it's an experience question. a lot of the folks i talked to including who voted for trump and backed off say they underestimated the value of experience. >> yeah. it's definitely an experience question. but i would also say that it's interesting that biden, o'rourke and sanders, the top three contenders in this race in polling right now are all three white men. you're seeing the democratic party really want to try to cater toward more of a diversity message. there's a moment of reckoning that democrats are going to have to go through. i think kamala harris is someone we've seen risen in the polls lately. there's chat that she's set to announce relatively soon. she's proven to be a very effective potential candidate. >>> coming up, in two days a new crop of congressmen and women will be sworn in. while many come in with the high hopes and dreams of shaking up the system, the outgoing members have a message for them. >> don't come he

they say o'rourke should have shared some of the money he raised with fellow democrats. new york start it kirsten gillibrand expressed those xp thoughts through her first swing through iowa privately calling o'rourke selfish. an aide to senator gillibrand disputed the characterization of that conversation.on amid speculation whether he will or won't, beto o'rourke is keeping a low profile and decliningof to do any skbrer vis until he's madey a decision abt thee upcoming presidential election. >> some democrats declared their 2020 foe. they are nervous that howard schultz might poach democratic voters. here's what schultz's adviser said about those chances yesterday on msnbc. >> the election is two years away. he has said unequivocally he won't be a spoiler in the race. if at some point in the future if he goes out and meets the american people, if it's the case it's a legitimate three way race he'll make a decision at the appropriate time to be a candidate or notti to be a candidate. >> still ahead thousands of venezuelans have been taking to the streetta demanding an en

o'rourke does not plan to make a final decision until at least february. fellow texan and democrat julian castro plans it announce his decision on a possible run on saturday. >>> former arizona congresswoman gabby giffords are return to capitol hill to help introduce a bill requiring background checks on private gun sale transactions. house democrats plan to unveil the bill on the eighth anniversary of the shooting in tucson that nearly killed giffords and left six other people dead. despite some bipartisan support, the proposal appears unlikely to advance in the senate. >>> supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg missing the first day of oral arguments for the first time in the new year as she recuperates from cancer surgery. she had not missed day one of arguments since she was confirmed to the court in 1993. the 85-year-old had surgery last month it remove two cancerous growths from her left lung. she has been recovering at home. ginsburg has had two other bouts c with cancer. a spokesman says she will still vote on cases by reviewing transcripts. >>>

there are calls for beto o'rourke to run for president. but the potential candidate himself may be having doubts. we'll explain. is it a childish 'tit for tat'? political brinksmanship? we'll have the latest in we'll have explain. we'll having doubts.himself may be candidate office. office. has the storyeytan wallace has the storyhas the story mountains. the santa cruz mountains. (ken) bakersfield police are now reccomending charges against the woman... seen here... dragging a dog behind a bird scooter. police have identified the suspect as 39 year old elaine rosa. reporter eytan wallace has the story (ken)that was eytan wallace reporting.another protest is set for tomorrow at two p-m outside the kern county district attorney's office. (ken)coming up tonight at 6:45... there are calls for beto o'rourke to run for president. but the potential candidate himself may be having doubts. we'll explain. is it a childish 'tit for tat'? political brinksmanship? we'll have the latest in the ongoing battle between president trump house speaker and nan

representative o'rourke has overshared on his instagram., we saw a little more laundry than we needed to see. we saw elizabeth warren on new year's eve, thanking her husband for being in their own home. this is what we're going to see, candidates wanting to be authentic and get to know that but it's pointed out the more toll tigss politicians do this, the lame are they're going to get. not everyone has the gift like beto o'rourke or as representative aoc does as she makes her mac and cheese and taubes about progress of policies. >> first, you must be pretty confident in your dental hygiene if you're live streaming. >> that is a good point. >> do you think there as only a couple politicians that can pull this off or do you think everybody across the board can be live streaming and it works for everybody? >> we've seen the further you venture into dad territory, you probably shouldn't be doing this. alexi has a great line, a drop the mike piece in her story is "just because it's raw doesn't mean it's real or good." i think we're going to see

i think the big number is 9, which is beto o'rourke who ran and lost to ted cruz in texas, but is on the minds of a lot of people who do this for a living. it's the name that i'm hearing thrown around by democratic consultants. some other names that i think are popping up is kamala harris. there's been a boom for kamala harris ever since she won that senate seat. she's sort of a female obama. you know, she's multiracial. she's both african-american and asian-american. she's a woman. i think women are the hung ries. hence hillary clinton was an unstoppable force. and who has the support of african-americans and african-americans wanted hillary especially black women. the name i'm hearing now, there was a survey of prominent women in politics and number one is kamala harris. she's got to demonstrate she has actual political chops. but i feel beto and kamala have a sort of natural energy right now. that could change, but that's the way it looks right now. >> this could be the time to run my video when kamala harris was san francisco district attorney and i predicted she was on her way t

beto o'rourke. money signifies excitement. i think that's one thing that we'll keep looking for.ours of her campaign. that there's excitement about her because of this small dollar donation surge. >> neil: so that $1.5 million in small denominations, right? that was not like $500,000 being plopped down. >> right. >> neil: so i remember on -- we both remember when jimmy carter was running for president. he also got in the fields of iowa money, $5, $10 at a time and emerged as this guy that knocked on every door. before they knew it, he put up a lot of signs, been to a lot of homes. people are giving him money. whatever they can afford. boom, next thing you know, he didn't win iowa. he was behind. but that victory greased the skids for his presidential run. >> yeah, you might remember jimmy carter better than i do. >> neil: don't get me started on leonard fillmore. >> this is going to be a crowded primary. voters and donors and party officials, everybody wants to know who are democrats most excited about. who will generate the energy needed to beat donald trump. so i think, as i sa

joe likened o'rourke as an about to inspire voters of all races and ideologies.s formed last month aims to raise $1 million in an attempt to convince o'rourke that he should run for president, and intends to build an early political team that would give him a head start in the primaries. >>> let's get a check on your weather with meteorologist bill karins. >> after a pretty quiet weekend. the west coast got nailed. interstate 80 had a ton of snow on it, past the sacramento toward the tahoe area and there are vehicles that are stranded on that road, and some people had to sleep in their cars because it was snowing so hard. . that's where all the worst weather has been this weekend. we have snow in northern portions of the great lakes. rain that's going to head to chicago for the morning commute and a little bit of slippery travel later on this afternoon. more towards this evening from buffalo to syracuse. nothing horrible, just a coating of snow and a little bit of ice and changing over to all rain. the only areas shoveling, the mountainous areas. and areas of sou

the president is focused on joe biden and elizabeth warren. >> ayesha, reaching out to beto o'rourke,y to speak to reporters until i've made a decision about what's next. but he is doing an interview with oprah next week. >> that's a much bigger platform right there. >> not a reporter. >> good point. >> who can kind of electrify like the younger voters, get them out there, people of color, black people? have these people come out and get them to go to the polls? that would have made a difference in that last presidential election. >> sure. >> do you get that by playing to the middle? is this a moment where people want something bigger, something bolder? they don't want like the status quo? >> i think symone and i will agree on the fact that whoever that person is, it ain't beto o'rourke. >> come on, governor. >> i know you. >> whoever wants to run for president, they should run for president. if we're going to talk about beto, why not talk about stacey abrams? >> beto o'rourke doesn't understand the reason he raised so much money, he was running against ted cruz not because people lov

she just replaced beto o'rourke. says it may be time to knock down that sinful wall. >> we know that walls don't work. that they don't stop drugs, that they don't stop migration. >> el paso has a wall. you say it doesn't work. would you ever call for the removal of the wall there? >> you know, it's really ugly. it is -- i think a monument to division. we have always had fencing along the u.s.-mexico border. it's existed -- i'm a lifelong resident it always was there the bigger and taller and you recallier that they get, they really just become simple. sinful. >> tucker: she is right. wall does divide. that's the point of having them. there are some things people would like to be divided from like endemic corruption and murderous drug cartels. how do you accomplish that without walls? well, nancy pelosi has been thinking about this recently. here's her solution. >> and then we talk about technology, as i said, several hundred million dollars ranges from half a billion to $700 million for the technology to scan the car

turns out, maybe there is such a thing as too relatable. >> that is, indeed, beto o'rourke in the dentistborder about what life is like there including to talking to his own dentist. >> um, so i'm here at the dentist and we're going to continue our series on the people of the border. i'm here with diana, my dental hi jenist, diana is going to tell us a little bit about growing up -- ( indistinguishable ) >> trevor: yeah, beto. he didn't understand what they said when all the kids were flossing. this is a genius way to avoid tough questions. how can you call yourself a presidential candidate when you're drilling for oil in the gulf of mexico -- great question -- question -- ). garble ). moving on, stephen king of iowa faced accusations of racism mostly because of the racist stuff he says. today he defend himself by saying what's wrong with racism anyway? >> steve king defending himself after a newly accomplished article from the "new york times" saying he's not a racist but then the congressman questions why white nationalist and white supremacist is offensive. >> trevor: yeah! i'm not rac

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rob: dan crenshaw blasting beto o'rourke for questioning the u.s. constitution.nterview with washington examiner crenshaw says anybody who questions the validity of the constitution should never be president. responding to the former democratic congressman's interview with washington post asking, quote, that is the question of the moment, does this still work? can an empire like our still be managed by the same principles that were set down 230 years ago? beto o'rourke is not made a decision whether or not he is making a run at the white house. jillian: the u.s. treasury pushing back on new report claiming trade officials are easing up on china. rob: how the trump administration is trying to set the record straight on trade talks. >> reporter: an article from the wall street journal, we did see wall street reacting positively to this report. the dow up 162 points, the s&p by 19, the nasdaq adding 49 points. the wall street journal report says the treasury secretary steve mnuchin was considering lowering tariffs on chinese goods as trade negotiations continue. the

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the beto o'rourke. get this.ah winfrey announced that she's going to interview beto o'rourke february 5. that's a big get. he's not getting that because he went to the dentist but he does have a way of getting people to follow him. >> he's a little better on the live look what i'm doing than the other candidates. he should know no one wants to see the dentist office. >> dana: nobody likes to go. >> the last thing they want to do. this is just -- having somebody with a mask on talk to you about what it's like growing up around the boreder is the wrong message. preferably they like to see the face of the person talking about life on the border. if oprah -- this is an endorsement from oprah is huge. >> dana: i don't think it's an endorsement. but still that exposure -- >> i'm sure it's going to be some sort of announcement. >> dana: i'm going to ask you about one other thing. have you ever met dwayne the rock -- >> i know rock. we're connected via a family connection. >> dana: he made a little bit of news. he did an

this is beto o'rourke in el paso, texas, where he's lived his whole life at the border. this is beto o'rourke's, in effect, video response to the president tonight. >> we're literally on the border, you know, you don't have a wall or a fence around your house. >> no. >> i really believe that if people came to el paso, experienced it, if they could live here for a little while, even better, all of this preoccupation and consternation and fear, so much of it founded in paranoia, and perhaps the purposeful anxiety that the president seeks to stoke and instill. i think all that would melt. >> yes. >> away. you just have to be here, see it, believe it. >> ron klain, the president talked about people having walls around their private homes. there's beto o'rourke in el paso with someone whose home is literally on the border and he doesn't need a wall. >> no, look, i kind of wonder where the real trump was tonight because i think that was, like, the anamatronic robot from disney's hall of presidents delivering in a robotic way canned lines that he's delivered over and over again

funny responses to the beto o'rourke video.>> on and off the field, big news for tim tebow. he is engaged to miss universe 2017, he announced the news on instagram saying thank you for saying yes and making me the happiest man in the world, you're the love of my life and can't wait to spend the rest of my life with you. he's playing baseball for the mets organization, the twitter account congratulated him on instagram as well. as for the ring, it is reportedly a whopping 7.25 carats. everybody is winning in that relationship. rob: we didn't show. >> miss universe level beauty. rob: we appreciate it. jillian: 26 after the hour. democrats calling the chaos at the border a manufactured crisis. >> what the president is doing is manufacturing a crisis. >> this is a manufactured crisis. jillian: do you remember when they were more than willing to close the government in 2013 to fund obamacare? what justifies a crisis? that debate next. rob: a teenager smashes his truck through a storefront but it was his icy exit that surprised polic

laura: meanwle, hanging out there we have former vice president joe biden and we also have beto o'rourkebig wccess in texas who did n the senate but his coattails got quite a few democratic house seats, it is sai josh: beto is taking his time to make up his mind. sometimes u lose that opportunity, you lose that moment if you wait too long. it sounds like hwon't be making a decision anytime soon. everyone remembers how close he came in texas against ted cruz, but the more he talks on his social-media platforms and not lking about policy and the more scrutiny he is getting, the buzz is starting to die down a little bit with beto o'rourke joe biden is a name to watch. if he runs, the whole field is reshaped. aura: right, but if we think about the shutdo the democrats running in the context er the shutdown, is it in democrats' it to end the shutdown? josh: it is in their interest to em reasonable. right now the public is on their side. if you look at the national polling, a majority of americans take the democrat side against president trump. they think the president is to blame for the shut

so when you see o'rourke doing here is trying to preserve as much as possible in being a blank canvast when you answer questions that way in a two-hour interview inevitably that will raise questions in democratic circles of does he have what it takes and only beto o'rourke will answer that in future interviews. >> it's a fine line to walk between being a blank canvas and empty vessel. not you, collectively, just to be clear, you are a very full vessel, david chalian, thank you. >>> the president has called climate change a hoax for this eta, the crisis is an eight or nine on a scale of 10. we'll have that interesting tidbit ahead. plus as speaker pelosi asked the president to move the state of the union. i'll ask a democrat who was invited to the white house and any moment now british lawmakers will vote on the fate of theresa may as brexit hangs in the balance. or mom, the nation's largest senior-living referral service. for the past five years, i've spoken with hundreds of families and visited senior-care communities around the country. and i've got to tell you, today's senior-livin

move forward, beto o'rourke, his celebrity, his campaign was built about a full embrace of social media. he is constantly taping himself and sharing it with the world. and it brings him notoriety beyond texas. he is one of the potential nominees for the democrat. you see a change in both tactics but who it draws and. -- draws in. that is not just in the united states. that is happening everywhere. what has played out in brazil is a good illustration. you can hit the other question if you would like. emerson: sure. so, what we mean when we talk about -- the contrast between the lesson -- peter: what spencer had. emerson: spencer was understood -- pardon me. peter: spencer understood two different things. one was the power of narrative. narrative matters not just in writing, but basically hits are very psyche, one of the first studies in psychology way back in the field -- back in the 1940's, they presented a film to test subjects that showed three shapes, the circle, a triangle, and a square. the shapes are interacting. the test subjects, all but one of them came up with stories to expla

another issue for him is the fact that beto o'rourke, the popular u.s.gressman who ran for senate but captured the imagination of democrats is considering a presidential run. castro said while he's not worried beto o'rourke could get into the race, he obviously would like him to stay on the side lines. >> of course i'd rather be the only democrat running from texas, but i think we're going to have a crowded primary. we don't know who's going to run, so everybody's going to have to go and put out their vision and go and do the hard work of campaigning and reaching voters. >> reporter: and now the real work begins for julian castro. on sunday he'll travel to puerto rico for his first announcement event in puerto rico. he'll then travel to new hampshire where he will meet with top democrats in the state. >> well, as julian just said, he expects to have a crowded field, and yes and more democrats are joining the race or exploring a possible run. house representative tulsy gabbard said this to cnn's van jones. >> i have decided to run and will be making a for

2020 expected to get even more crowded with rumors that former vice president joe biden and beta o'rourkets in the ring are any last contenders who voters want on the ballot in 2020 here to weigh in, is founder of turning point usa charlie, thank you so much for being with us in california no less thank you for staying up late for us. >> k good morning evening how you doing? [laughter] >> something tells me you are not going to be voting for any of these people we are going to be talking about in this segment but you are a young person we want to talk about who might possibly resonate with young voters out of candidates that have thrown hat in the ring or expected to announce who do you think that person will be. >> well, look going to be what i like to call trump humiliating olympics the dplaikt primary where they have a competition, of seeing who can hate donald trump the most, you know as talk about conservatives one supports president unapologetically i hope more get in the race trying to be more extreme draw attention to themselves in competition to hate president you are seeing biza

and the big wild card, outgoing congressman beto o'rourke. will he get into the race? over new year's, o'rourke tweeted out this picture, building an igloo with his wife and kids. >> and david wright joins us now. david, senator warren making it official, and this weekend, she's heading to iowa? >> reporter: that's right, tom. she has four big campaign events planned across the state. really trying to take advantage of this moment, when she's the biggest named challenger to declare her intentions. tom? >> david wright for us. david, thank you. >>> and 2019 ushers in a slate of new laws across the country. 20 states and nearly two dozen cities will increase their minimum wage this year, with about 17 million americans from new york to california set to receive pay bumps. in ohio, a new law will require students to write legibly in kur side by the fifth grade. and in californ slt or a resc group. >>> next tonight, who wouldn't want to start 2019 $425 million richer? that's the jackpot up for grabs in the new year's day mega millions drawing. the eighth largest in the gam