o.j. simpson, starring in a new miniseries with sarah paulson playing marsha clark. it will be interesting to see it come back again and see what things might have changed. >> a spin on it. maybe they'll throw out the stuff that happened afterward in vegas. >> anything with cuba gooding is going to be good. >> he's talented. >>> dreamworks animation is creating its own channel launching across angel with hits like "how to train your dragon" and "the adventures of pus n boots." >>> the most treated about star this year was justin bieber. >> i don't get it. >> i don't either. the individual members of one direction -- >> taylor swift? >> they took two three four respectively. >>> "finding dorie" will go from the sea marine biology institute. >> it is a classic. >> anything >>. >> this time dorie travels to find her parents. >> such a trip. >> so much fun. >>> up next, tune in to "south park" to see their christmas special where they take time to make fun of the year's most notable and notorious celebrities of the year. i'd say be prepared to laugh. >> have to be in the

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o.j. simpson. there were really no commentators. you could just turn it on and watch it. it was on everyday. you could form your own opinions or learn things. i i think that is the real benefit of allowing the cameras and. unfortunately far too often the electronic coverage gets confused with commentators, pundits, spend, and all the other stuff that comes with what used to be news and is not info data. >> i am out of time. time. i have another question, but thank you very much. >> i i appreciate the chairman. >> was going to ask your personal opinion, do you think of the public had more visibility of what we did in the courtroom, whether it's the trial bench or the appellate bench or the supreme court, do you think maybe they would understand and appreciate the judicious war or not? >> that would be my hope. i think i think all judges want the public to be better informed and recognize that the public is not as well as informed as they used to be. we recognize and embrace the fact that public access to the courts is important. important. they are public proceedings. we u

o.j. simpson. kardashian was part of simpson's legal team during his murder trial. egins in just a few weeks. >> cuba gooding jr. -- >> you can see that. >> cuba gooding jr. is already slated to play o.j. no word on who will portray other personalities including johnnie cochran and the judge lance ito. >>> we've got a triple dose of kardashian in "the skinny." kourtney is revealing her new baby's name. reign atkins -- >> which one is kourtney? >> i'm assuming that's kourtney. not too keen on the kardashians. i don't know it all, but reign is the name. reign. r-e-i-g-n. like rulg over a tabloid media empire. and his photo already on instagram. we see just a little bit of him, his hands. >> he'll be doing selfies from the crib here shortly. he's a third child of the eldest kardashian sister. so far this photo of reign holding mommy's hand is all we have. >>> let's get to the celebrity birthdays. >> our very own diane sawyer, 69. >> ralph fiennes. >> and jordin sparks, celebrating a quarter century. >> meghan trainor, 21 now. >> meghann traynor, 21 now. that's what i li

o.j. simpson. >> yes. >> take me back to the first time you heard he may be a murder suspect. first thing i heard was nicole simpson was killed and o.j. was in chicago. >> and you knew her? >> of course. i knew her before they had gotten married. i knew her when they'd gotten engaged. at first it was shocking because you can't imagine that anybody you know and somebody in your neighborhood -- and i live in brentwood, you can't believe anybody you know is capable of committing a murder or a double murder. it was a very crazy time. >> but simpson himself, did he strike you as an individual who had that sense of rage in him? >> no. i mean, i never saw it. and that's not to say that it wasn't there. so everybody thought he was the nicest guy in town. >> one of his lawyers and friends was the late robert kardashian, father to kim kardashian. >> right. >> very shadowy figure. i investigated this case. he was around simpson all the time. he removed some of simpsons items in a suitcase from his home. you knew kardashian. and you according to your book were speaking to h when all this

o.j. simpson and i was actively involved in the experiment with courtroom proceedings from 1987 to 1997 in new york and buy electronics i mean audio and visual recording as well as digital. we support this because there is a strong societal interest in public access to the court and is part of that almost every state allows a criminal or appellate proceedings and unfortunately that is not the case at the federal level and in 1991 the judicial conference talk about a pilot program permitting the broadcasting in televising an electronic recording for the photographing of courtroom proceedings by the media. and despite favorable records, they declined to approve this and the program ended in 1994. in 2010 the conference authorized a second pilot project and this would be court personnel and not the media operating the equipment. the guidelines state that the media or representatives will not be permitted to create courtroom proceedings. and in 2004 media coverage is the blinking eye of the public into the widest audience. and this includes a grave responsibility. and i'll of the right to expe

o.j. simpson verdict. personally, i was stunned.hought two hours of deliberation meant that the jury found him guilty. how could they not, i thought, with all the blood over the place? all the trying to escape in the white bronco with the passport to the skies? why would a beloved celebrity go racing for the border when his wife is killed? i wasn't ready for the strong outpouring of anger over the michael brown tragedy i certainly was for the eric garner killing. i saw in that video all they needed to see, that there needed to be more than a grand jury, there needed to be the real one, the kind you get after there's a trial. so as we, white and black, continue along this line of tragedy and race relations, i believe the whites among us will learn not just from their own reaction of horrible events but from the other communities reaction. when we ask how things are going, we'll have already begun to learn to judge progress not by our own lights but by the lights of others. there are just too many of those other people i've come to pe

o.j. simpson which led to her greatest scoop. when that trial was over, o.j.. >> he did. >> why? >> he would say the reason he talked to me is because as he said she never thought i was innocent, but she never said she thought i was guilty either. >> michael jackson, did he reach out to you? >> he did. michael jackson called me and he said he wanted to thank me for being fair. >> deutsche has covered at least 50 major trials. in almost all of them she said the jury got it right with one notable exception. >> i covered the rodney king case and it almost destroyed my belief in the justice system. the verdict was wrong. there is no question the verdict was wrong. and as a result, my city was almost destroyed. >> reporter: a far different scene from her very first story in journalism, a 19-year-old covering the march on washington. >> it was one of the really main watershed events of my life, and after that, you never turn back, never. what i wound up being was a social historian. it's an incredible privilege and i hope that reporters today realize what a privileg

o.j. simpson which lead to her greatest scoop. >> when that trial was over, oj called you first. >> he did. >> why? >> he would say later that the reason he talked to me was because as he said, she never said she thought i was innocent, but she never said she thought i was guilty either. >> michael jackson, did he reach out to you? >> he did. michael jackson called me and said he wanted to thank me for being fair. >> deutsch has covered at least 50 major trials. and almost all of them, she says, the jury got it right, with one notable exception. >> i covered the rodney king case. and it almost destroyed my belief in the justice system. the verdict was wrong. there is no question the verdict was wrong. and as a result, my city was almost destroyed. >> upon different scenes from her very first story in journalism, a 19-year-old intern covering the march on washington. >> it was one of the really main water shed events of my life. and after that, you never turned back. never. >> what i wound up being was a social historian. it's an incredible privilege. and i hope that reporters today realize

o.j. simpson and i was actively involved in the experiment with courtroom proceedings from 1987 to 1997 in new york and buy electronics i mean audio and visual recording as well as digital. we support this because there is a strong societal interest in public access to the court and is part of that almost every state allows a criminal or appellate proceedings and unfortunately that is not the case at the federal level and in 1991 the judicial conference talk about a pilot program permitting the broadcasting in televising an electronic recording for the photographing of courtroom proceedings by the media. and despite favorable records, they declined to approve this and the program ended in 1994. in 2010 the conference authorized a second pilot project and this would be court personnel and not the media operating the equipment. the guidelines state that the media or representatives will not be permitted to create courtroom proceedings. and in 2004 media coverage is the blinking eye of the public into the widest audience. and this includes a grave responsibility. and i'll of the right to expe

o.j. simpson, i don't know how long ago, that i think it was a miscarriage of justice. it was a system, a jury of his peers, he was acquitted of murdering his life. >> and then he was convicted and he was found responsible. and jay christian adams was in the civil rights division. so he was overseeing these exact kind of cases in the department of justice. >> but to say to ask for an investigation undermines the judicial system, what's wrong with that? >> no, he's saying every time someone comes back with a decision they disagree with, it must be invalid, the system must be bad, let's throw it out. he said there are going to be outcomes that people disagree with but that is our system of justice. it's better than every other one in the world where they take you out back and shoot you or hang you. >> i was going to ask you about how you see the media handling this case, will this learn from previous mistakes that has led to chaos by chasing the wrong facts and finding out things didn't happen, do you think this will be different? >> it seems to be. i was just looking at

o.j. simpson trial. can't wait. >> thank you, steve. story we've been following here at fox news. a metropolitan state university professor requiring his students to recite what he calls the new pledge of allegiance, calling america racist, sexist, and more. one of his former students was appalled by his professor's anti-american sentiment and he's now speaking out with us this morning. freshman steven farr joins us now. thank you for being with us, steven. >> thank you for having me. >> i'm reading through the pledge and it says -- this new pledge your former professor has come up with. the anti-american pledge denounces the u.s. as republican controlled, racist, sexist, homophobic and in the name of jesus. he hands out this pledge to your entire class and what was your reaction? >> well, just seeing the pledge, i was appalled. i have to say as soon as he started having us read the pledge or recite the pledge, i couldn't even -- i was seething and i just couldn't believe what was happening, to be honest. >> was everyone in the classroo

o.j. simpson had, i wouldn't be here right now. problem here is not that you're guilty, it's that you don't have enough money? >> exactly. since, like, money talks. if you have money, i would not be here. >> reporter: k.c. joy was sentenced to 15 years to life for killing maribel ramos. what do you think happened? >> i think she went to bed, and i think what he did is he got a pillow and smothered her. and as he's got this pillow over her face she struggles a little bit. and i believe that's where he got the scratches on his right tricep. >> reporter: if mr. joy hadn't done that google map search leading you, essentially, to the body, would he be a free man? >> if no other evidence came up, yes. >> reporter: he'd be a person of interest in a cold case. >> correct. >> reporter: maribel ramos graduated from college posthumously. her niece, giselle, whom maribel had always hoped would follow in her footsteps, instead ended up walking the path meant for her aunt. >> i received her diploma, and i got to sit in her seat and walk upstage

o.j. simpson -- >> what this statute of limitations. >> there is none.'s liability proven when he pled guilty but you also in civil you have to prove there's a duty a breach, causation, and damages. they have a birth hurdle to overcome, not just that he committed these phones. >> i don't agree. they have very little hurdle. the only hurdle is they have to prove their damages and that's easy to go back and see if the kids received psychiatric extremity -- >> might never have nope this if the media didn't bring it to their attention. >> to their advantage now they know about it. so this is an opportunity for them to collect in civil court, money damages against someone who allegedly victimized them. why not go for it. >> no time limit. >> but to me it looks like it's really about money. >> who cares. >> then also -- >> why not -- >> victim crimes compensation board in most states where they feel they can prove damages they can get money from all the money that they collected. >> it never really amounts to that much in criminal court. itch you go a. bun who

o.j. simpson trial. they were considered people that had the right to their opinion.hy when we questioned grand juries, are we all of these names? we have the same right to question the process as anyone else does. and in this case, where you have a videotape, we have an obligation to stand up and question it. >> reverend al sharpton. president of the national action network, host on msnbc. thank you very much for your role in this. good to have you here. we have much more ahead as we continue to monitor these live protests and elsewhere around the country, responding to the grand jury decision to not indict a new york city police officer in the death of eric garner who was choked to death in the streets of staten island this last july.  >>> looking at a feed from the streets of new york city. this i think is along the west side highway. one of the main northwest arteries on the west side of manhattan island. today in new york, hours before the grand jury announced its verdict in the eric garner case, the verdict that has brought out all these protests, they nouge

o.j. simpson verdict -- much of which i touch on in the columns in my book. this is a real conversation on race that we have in america. one big reason is white folks are reluctant to talk about race, and black folks can't stop talking about race. when you have this in your life you you have to deal with, kind of resist when people tell you to stop talking about it. but at the same time, among young people is where i see hope for the future. have a 24-year-old son and millennial's n of but they ost-racial, understand that america is not in post-racism, either. they have a more open view about the future. we say -- and ll shall we say, -- view of the future than the elders do. but i think we're moving in the right direction on the whole. we have to get more comfortable talking about these differences. host: where did you come up with the term culture worrier? guest: i was thinking about my friend, bill o'reilly, over at fox news. i was thinking about some of he wants to that have -- iit sort of worries me. i think we need to do more more ng aand take a realist

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o.j. simpson's murder trial, a defining moment in our culture that spoke volumes about where we stood as aion when it came to race. the lights were on. cameras were rolling, right here in this studio as the verdict came down live. >> it is shortly before noon chicago time. and history is in the making. by the time you all see this you will already know the o.j. verdict, but we, just like the rest of the country, are waiting to hear it live for the very first time. >> the special "race on the oprah winfrey show with tamron hall" airs tomorrow january 1st at 10:00 pm eastern on own. that does it for this edition of news nation. i'm ayman mulhuydin in for tamron hall. >>> opening her hand crafted clothing line on etsy five years ago. she used the marketing power of the site to expand into retail and become a finalist in martha stewart's american made awards. for more watch "your business" sunday mornings at 7:30 on msnbc. >> brought to you by american express open. visit open forum.com for ideas to help you grow your business. one thing i've learned is my philosophy is real simple american ex

o.j. simpson trial.e going to do what they were going to do regardless of whether there were cameras or not. as a matter of fact, i use this as a comparison. i believe the public missed a wonderful opportunity to see the judge overseeing the oklahoma city bombing trial. there were cameras in the courtroom there. most people don't think about it it. they were closed circuit cameras that allowed the broadcast of the proceedings occurring in denver to be seen by the people in a courtroom in oklahoma city. again, had that been allowed to happen, we might have seen what a well conducted trial looked like compared to what i will admit was a circus during the o.j. trial. that had nothing to do with the fact that there were cameras in the courtroom. >> at the supreme court which is a courtroom. our courtrooms are always open to the public. couldn't the argumentle equally be made if the concern really is playing to the cameras that with the current system where there are a handful of supreme court correspondents

o.j. simpson in a movie. >> do you believe he was innocent or guilty?. >> i know so clearly what he thinks. i've had to learn, go through so much info on these grizzly murders. there's a lot of info people don't know but they will soon. >> really? [laughter] >> nick jonas, he recently stopped by f.a.o. schwartz. he does this song "jealous" on the piano. >> ♪ i don't like the way he's looking at you ♪ >> i'm obsessed. >> it's so good. >> this is so cool. >> that was awesome. >> i think 2014, he's pretty cool. >> 2014, you weren't that hard to win. [laughter] >> the grammys might be [laughter] >> the grammys might be rigged.

o.j. simpson and rodney king era. thanks so much for being with us. it. >> my pleasure, thank you. >> you interviewed hundreds of police officers and they were very, very honest with you over time. they talked about their feelings towards african-american men. what did they tell you. >> fascinating. it was very fascinating for me to hear because once i got their trust and they realized that chief bratton, the chief of lapd at the time, wanted me to find out what were his cops thinking and so i just made up a list of very provocative questions and i asked them. i said "what is it that makes you afraid? "and they actually decided to talk to me. i don't know why, but they did. and they would say miss rice, can i be honest with you? i'm afraid of black people. i never grew up around black people, i don't understand them, they scare me. or "miss rice, i'm scared of black men." and i was stunned but understood that they were being honest. and from there once you understand the fears you can address them and get them to dial it down so that there isn't a hai

o.j. simpson got off. that was ridiculous. i didn't see any joy in that situation. two innocent people had gotten killed. and so everybody wants to protect their tribe. this is just an awful situation. i think two things. i think, number one, i'm always my own person when it comes to race. i'll judge every single person on their own merits. i don't look at white, black, female, jewish, hispanic, i'm going to judge -- we all got bad characters in our group. we all got bad characters. my grandmother taught me you judge everybody on their own individual merits. you don't care what any other jackass has to say. black is not always right. white is not always wrong. you go back to the civil rights movement. white folks died. we know about ones in mississippi. we know -- there's always been white and blacks fight. even in ferguson, i saw just as many whites marching as i did blacks because people just want a discussion. and then you got some bad apples who take advantage of the situation. you got -- that's unfortunate. this is a serious -- somebody lost a child. this is so

o.j. simpson's trial of the century returns to tv and it's trending. 's top earning musicians. the number one earner may surprise you. >>> hollywood was up bright and early this morning to hear the s.a.g. award nominations, but who was snubbed? >>> then -- >> i have alzheimer's disease. julianne moore grabs a s.a.g. nomination for "still alice." >> according to critics, she's already won. >> does that make you more nervous? >> i hope they're right. >> let's go inside. now the latest celebrity news delivered to you 24/7, it's the "insider" together with yahoo! >>> the race to the oscars is officially on. with hollywood's a-list leading the way, reese, meryl, jen aniston. hello, everybody. i'm louis aguirre. >> i'm thea andrews. also nominated, of course, julianne moore. coming up i talk to the front-runner about the awards buzz. >>> tonight's other big story, major fallout from the hollywood hacking scandal. this time spilling insider secrets about angelina jolie and it is not pretty. >> i'd much prefer having a camera on these two and being -- >> really

o.j. simpson trial? >> i think mr. the card is in it for the long haul.st of all, you cannot distribute compensation to victims if you don't have it. first, he had to replenish his fund. once that money is there and you know how much you've got it, then you are disseminating it to the victims. >> the judges in the courtroom control the process, don't they? >> on the criminal side, certainly. are always there, and the jury and the legal system is there to temper this bloodlust, this revenge, this "we want our pound of flesh picku." to bee justice system has ever vigilant to make sure there .re not sentences out of whack >> and the idea of a trial by jury or no jury, that is a different process, isn't it? >> the jury has been the last bastion of community sentiment, guided by the judge on the log -- on the law. the jury -- the judge instructs on what the jury can and cannot do, but ultimately the jury, one toe the ultimately call the shots. we are still to this day, shocked. i was sitting there writing to handed mens when he the blackberry. it was like, wow

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o.j. simpson verdict and there were almost a record number then of americans who said race relations wereave seen over the past two decades the number flex waiting a lot. and the president said including in the interview i mentioned he sees this moment with policing again, at the top of people's minds as a time for both sides to come together and look for solutions to move forward. >> all right. we appreciate it. you're not going anywhere. you'll be with us for the next conversation. time to talk about immigration politics now. and what is being called the immigration strike team. a plan democrats put in place to help with hispanic turn out in 2016. ed oh keefwe keef. nice to have you to talk about this. ed you reported on this strike team earlier this month. what is that? >> it's essentially an attempt by the white house and congressional democrats on the hill to work together. in a slightly more coordinated fashion. there's a lot of criticism from democrats in congress that the white house perhaps hasn't worked in unitson with them on certain issues. going into the new year knowing they

o.j. simpson with the the sports memo more beal i can't.ber sharon helmand going through all of this administrative leave her salary 170 ogrand. >> we were all paying eric shinseki had just resigned. he wasn't getting any salary. he had appealed and had they gone through his emails and more sworn testimony from him and that kind of stuff, what else might come out of this? remember, yesterday, when this story broke about the fact that this narrative was completely false, they asked the white house for comment on this. did anyone in the white house know back in 2009? were they briefed? white house says no comment. >> all right. let us know your thoughts on this story and all the others. email us at foxnews.com or hit us up on twitter here is what is coming up on the program. it's just one of vice vice president's gaffes this year. >> i stopped in sing gore to meet with a guy lee kwan lou who most say is the wisest man in the orient. >> he wasn't the only one we have the top political gaffes of 2014 next. >> then, watch your words or fists wil

o.j. simpson was acquitted of murder of his wife nicole and ron goldman. wrap up and then he took one last question. and the question he took was about the state of black america. in response, president obama offered this. >> the gap between income and wealth of white and black america persists. and we've got more work to do on that front. i've been consistent in saying that this is a legacy of a troubled racial past of jim crowe and slavery. that's not an excuse for black folks, and i think the overall majority of black people understand it's not an excuse. they're working hard, they're out there hustling and trying to get an education, trying to send their kids to college, but they're starting behind oftentimes in the race. >> so christina, i want to come to you first on this and ask you, in lieu of this moment and those poll results, what role does president obama have to play in proving race relations in this country? >> a somewhat impossible role in some ways, right? i think he has to find a way to simultaneously share his views -- >> he doesn't have

o.j. simpson. the first season of the new fx show american crime story. and this will be interesting to see. >> where's the clicker. >> so we look at the -- >> you've lived it. >> youtube has released its list of the most popular videos of 2014. a menacing push takes the number one spot. that's the devil baby i think. >> i want to see the baby. ♪ [ screaming ] ♪ >> that is such a good video. it's so mean. >> it's a cute furry little thing. >> whoever did that -- >> it's historical. >> youtube says the video pulled in more than 114 million views since it was posted in september. also appearing on the list was the iphone 6. >> i want to see the baby. >> bend test. the devil baby attack. there it is. which has been viewed more than 37 million times. >> keep playing it. i want to see. >> that's funny. >> it kind of looks like you, barnacle. >> huh? >> what? >> please. come on, really? >> up next, i love this woman. >> who doesn't? >> who does not love this woman. comedian joy behar who is starring in an auto biog graph call show called "me, my mouth and i" is

o.j. simpson as a metaphor. many respects but the way we all understand the world is not through statistics, it's through story, and we see these stories and we respond to them. of course, it is more appropriate in some intellectual way to respond to the statistics that show black people are more likely to be stopped, hassled by the police, but who responds to the statistics? people respond to story, with you stobut stories are complica and not illustrative of what we think they are. >> what do we do? you have two different realities. one of the troubling things now is as the protests go on, there is inherent division that's being exacerbated, being made worse, not being made better. there's more noise but not necessarily more attention and more light. so what do we do? you have the two different schools of thought. it's worse for us as blacks and whites, you don't get it. and you got the other side, i don't know that it is. i think it's more about what you do in your communities and what we do in ours. where do

o.j. >> we expect mr. simpsono be process processed -- >> yes. >> very quickly. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: turns out jake doesn't just love celebrity, he is a fan of rock bottom prices. we sent cameras out to some of the lines for black friday and wouldn't you know it, guess who showed up to cut to the front of those lines? >> is this is first time you camped out in front of a best buy? >> yes, it is. >> and tell me about some of the stuff you've seen since you've been here since monday. is anything strange happening? >> just a lot of people taking pictures. asking the same questions. >> excuse me. where's the front of the line. >> played some water pong. that was fun. >> first in line. first in line. first in line. >> so, did you -- >> i'm first in line. >> what is your occupation? >> i'm in between jobs. >> i'm first in line! first in line. yeah. you william holden? >> yeah. >> does your employer know that you're currently here at best buy? >> actually using vacation days to stay here and my boss is going to come wi

o.j. simpson of the and you just -- there were really no commentators. you could just turn it on and watch it. it was on every day. and i think court tv did gavel-to-gavel coverage. you could form your own opinions or learn things. and i think that's the real benefit of allowing the cameras in. and i think unfortunately far too often the electronic coverage gets confused with commentators and the pundits and the spin and all the other stuff that comes with what used o be news and now is infotianment. >> if the judge wants another 30 seconds, fire away. >> judge, i was going to ask your personal opinion. do you think the public had more visibility of what we did in the courtroom, whether it's the trial bench or whether it's at the apellate bench or supreme court, do you think maybe they would understand and appreciate the judicial system more or not with cameras? >> that would be my hope, mr. poe. maybe i should call you judge poe. i think all judges want the public to be better informed about our branch of government and recognize that the public is not