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(chanting) oj, oj, oj. josh mankiewicz: we'll provide some answers with interviews done over the years, rare footage, and haunting memories, including a candid interview with prosecutor marcia clark, who doesn't hold back when discussing her unique perspective on the case on everything from the infamous bronco chase-- marcia clark: i'm thinking, we look like the biggest idiots ever. josh mankiewicz: --to the trial of the century. marcia clark: and every day we'd walk into court and something else was blowing up. juror (voiceover): not guilty of the crime of murder. josh mankiewicz: and, of course, the verdict. do you blame yourself for this? you know, i always do. i do. josh mankiewicz: it was a cool late spring evening in brentwood. around midnight, a couple was walking a dog down a quiet section of south bundy drive when something strange caught their attention. then, at the entrance to a condominium numbered 875, they saw it. a body in a river of blood. [sirens] police arrived and discovered a second vic
(chanting) oj, oj, oj. josh mankiewicz: we'll provide some answers with interviews done over the years, rare footage, and haunting memories, including a candid interview with prosecutor marcia clark, who doesn't hold back when discussing her unique perspective on the case on everything from the infamous bronco chase-- marcia clark: i'm thinking, we look like the biggest idiots ever. josh mankiewicz: --to the trial of the century. marcia clark: and every day we'd walk into court and something...
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it was oj every day. products, pundits, and a whole new class of tv shows talking about everything that happened that day in court. but if the audience loved it, 12 jurors didn't see it because they were sequestered, confined to this high-rise hotel a few blocks from the courthouse. lon cryer was one of the jurors who actually decided the case. for 265 days, more than eight months, their lives were limited to a courtroom and a hotel room. with no tv, no phone, no radios, no nothing. josh mankiewicz (voiceover): isolated, bored, often lonely. there was nothing glamorous about being a juror on the trial of the century. and i think you'll be very happy with the entertainment that we'll provide for you this weekend. josh mankiewicz (voiceover): there were occasional off-day outings around town. and there was one business trip when the jury was taken on a tour of the crime scene and simpson's rockingham estate. but what the jurors didn't know was that before that visit, defense attorney carl douglas had gone i
it was oj every day. products, pundits, and a whole new class of tv shows talking about everything that happened that day in court. but if the audience loved it, 12 jurors didn't see it because they were sequestered, confined to this high-rise hotel a few blocks from the courthouse. lon cryer was one of the jurors who actually decided the case. for 265 days, more than eight months, their lives were limited to a courtroom and a hotel room. with no tv, no phone, no radios, no nothing. josh...
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oj may have been black, but he wasn't black in the same way that i was black.t. if it doesn't fit, you must acquit. - and watching that, i was like, oh, this is not like if me or somebody i knew was accused of a crime. this is like celebrity. this is theater. - i've always wondered, is there really a difference between the trial of a century and a circus? because they seem to go hand in hand. - it became a joke on the tonight show with jay leno and the dancing itos. - the dancing itos with special guest, marcia clark! ladies and gentlemen! - i'm so saturated by the irresponsibility of the media that i'm beyond being outraged. i mean, i'm almost numb to it at this point. - this isn't a punchline. this is murder. - [kelly] today, the final act in what has been a national obsession. whatever verdict is read later today, los angeles police are prepared, but don't expect trouble. - as an african american, i did not want oj simpson to be guilty. - [judge ito] all right mr. simpson, would you please stand and face the jury? i remember they wheeled the tv into the lunc
oj may have been black, but he wasn't black in the same way that i was black.t. if it doesn't fit, you must acquit. - and watching that, i was like, oh, this is not like if me or somebody i knew was accused of a crime. this is like celebrity. this is theater. - i've always wondered, is there really a difference between the trial of a century and a circus? because they seem to go hand in hand. - it became a joke on the tonight show with jay leno and the dancing itos. - the dancing itos with...
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i knew oj, i knew casey anthony's parents, i knew jonbenet's parents. >> the opposite of a humble brag. the story is, in his final pitch to voters, trump cosplay as a garbageman as his wingmen pledged to take the economy and give america polio again. all right. michael, sam, your turn. watch the clip and tell me the story. >> we have the washington monument, and we have a prosecutor, and we have the white house. this is, harris with her final message to america as she gets ready to maybe win on election day. >> or tyler perry is about to drop a new movie about the white house. >> do you think he would cast kamala harris, or play her himself? >> he's going to cast someone, but he is like madea to kamala harris, you've got to snack too you've got to smack him, shooting in the white house. >> i'm watching it. >> have you ever watched a tyler perry movie? there is no wrong answer, this is not a trick question. >> madea goes to jail. >> madea goes to jail. >> i know you haven't. vice president, harris and the democrats make a closing argument to the american voters. even as she criticized t
i knew oj, i knew casey anthony's parents, i knew jonbenet's parents. >> the opposite of a humble brag. the story is, in his final pitch to voters, trump cosplay as a garbageman as his wingmen pledged to take the economy and give america polio again. all right. michael, sam, your turn. watch the clip and tell me the story. >> we have the washington monument, and we have a prosecutor, and we have the white house. this is, harris with her final message to america as she gets ready to...
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caller: the left calling trump a felon is a lot like oj calling nicole scarface. they caused it. one of the big factors is we will not allow america to become the soviet union. you can, you can indict political opponents, you can convict them. you can try to kill them, but we will not stand for it, we will not allow it. there's a lot of reasons, you know, to vote for trump and i'm ready for him to get to work and build a legacy. we just won't stand for it anymore. host: in michigan, this is frank. democrats line. frank in michigan, hello? one more time for frank. caller: hello? host: ok, we will go to michael in nevada, independent line, go ahead. caller: thank you for taking my call. in the near future, when the convicted illegal aliens are going to be removed and returned to their origin of country, some of these countries will refuse to take them. especially the murderers, rapists, kidnappers, and all of the, the fentanyl distributors. when they, when they, when the plane flies over that part of the country, if they refuse to let the plane land, then the, it's an act of kindne
caller: the left calling trump a felon is a lot like oj calling nicole scarface. they caused it. one of the big factors is we will not allow america to become the soviet union. you can, you can indict political opponents, you can convict them. you can try to kill them, but we will not stand for it, we will not allow it. there's a lot of reasons, you know, to vote for trump and i'm ready for him to get to work and build a legacy. we just won't stand for it anymore. host: in michigan, this is...
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josh mankiewicz (voiceover): oj simpson may be gone, but his case lives on. that mountain of evidence that was supposed to guarantee a slam dunk conviction, most of it is still around, buried deep in the lapd's archives. [music playing] [music playing] hello, i'm andrea canning, and this is "dateline." all? man: are you sane? sane? that's relative. guilty, hmm. i wouldn't do anything that i felt guilty about. andrea canning: you may think you know the charles manson story, but not like this. elaine aradillas: things that police had never seen before. virginia graham: sharon tate begged her, please, don't kill me. jeff guinn: he was primed to take advantage of peace and love. flower power. andrea canning: even now, decades later, the world is still fascinated by charles manson and his crimes. we take you inside his world of drugs-- jeff guinn: he would dose them with lsd. andrea canning: --sex-- he slept with all those girls. andrea canning: --and rock 'n' roll-- jeff guinn: they really did listen to "the white album" over and over. andrea canning: --with new
josh mankiewicz (voiceover): oj simpson may be gone, but his case lives on. that mountain of evidence that was supposed to guarantee a slam dunk conviction, most of it is still around, buried deep in the lapd's archives. [music playing] [music playing] hello, i'm andrea canning, and this is "dateline." all? man: are you sane? sane? that's relative. guilty, hmm. i wouldn't do anything that i felt guilty about. andrea canning: you may think you know the charles manson story, but not...
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people, independents, traditional conservatives who don't think after the conservatives of nixon, the oj should have that kind of power. here is trump's new ag pick on the issue. >> the department of justice, the prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones. the investigators will be investigated, because the deep state last term for president trump were hiding in the shadows. now, they have a spotlight on them, and they can all be investigated and the house needs to be cleaned out.>> now, i told you last week, pam bondi has a lot more experience as an ag and working in state government then matt gaetz did. she comes into this more in line with the past experts more presidents have sought. if you're tracking these picks, that means trump started way over here with matt gaetz and moved to bondi, right? she will go through her confirmation process. whether or not she has experience, the senate also has a big obligation to check whether she meant what she said in those statements, and how they are going to try to ensure the independence and the rule of law in the united states, which is som
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. >> i knew everybody, and you oj, i knew casey anthony's parents, i -- >> [ laughter ] >> i knew john'sarents -- that is like the opposite of a humble brag. the story is, in his final pitch to voters, trump koss played as a garbageman while his wingmen pledged to take the economy plunging to polio again. [ laughter ] all right. michael and sam, your turn. watch the clip and tell me what is the story. >> we have the washington monument, and we have a prosecutor, and we have the white house. this is kamala's final message to america, as she gets ready to maybe win on election day. >> or, tyler perry is about to start a new movie about the white house. >> you think you would cast kamala, or play kamala himself? >> no, he is going to cast a kamala, someone to play kamala, maybe robin gibbons. but, he would be like, kamala, girl, you got to go -- you better smack him, and like, shoot him in the white house, so -- [ laughter ] >> i am watching it. >> you would watch a tyler perry movie? there is no wrong answer. this is not a trick question. >> no, i have lost tyler perry. >> which one? >> "m
. >> i knew everybody, and you oj, i knew casey anthony's parents, i -- >> [ laughter ] >> i knew john'sarents -- that is like the opposite of a humble brag. the story is, in his final pitch to voters, trump koss played as a garbageman while his wingmen pledged to take the economy plunging to polio again. [ laughter ] all right. michael and sam, your turn. watch the clip and tell me what is the story. >> we have the washington monument, and we have a prosecutor, and we...
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telephonefl poles that the jig is up it's not about left or right we know that you are the real killer oj the media fed the hoax that created this complete i don't know mental breakdown.as identity politics has to go but has a permanent flaw. it can only work by telling you who isn't included as it tells you who is. when you look at the people e itthat are important it creat hierarchy emphasis people off. black men. hispanic men you have raised a generation on basically junk food for your soul. it's toxic. i mean. you have to admit if you abandon that you will lose a fact check but you know it is a small faction this is the alband-aid that you have to pul off onand when you pull it off you will feel relieved to get that out of your system. you will be life will be great because people who focus on their identity they are miserable pepeople they can't s outside sithemselves. i have a theory. i think everybody should be grateful that donald trump lost in 2020 because you could not have him now on this enhanced position the 4 year gap it soeliminated the sophomore slum it made him stronger.
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. >> before we get to there, d oj was investigating matt gaetz in connection with the associate of hisl greenberg, no relation. >> to be clear about that. >> yes, for sex trafficking of a minor and illicit drug use essentially sex and drug parties where there were women who, you know, may not have been of age to consent. also looking at whether or not drugs were involved at these parties affecting consent as well. so that -- investigation by doj went on for a number of years and joel greenberg was a cooperating witness. he gets sentenced and serving 11 years in prison for sex trafficking of this minor. and, you know, as far as we know, he was giving information about other men that he introduced this minor to. that he said is part of his plea, he also, you know, witnessed this -- the minor having sex with other men. doesn't say who. but that he was a witness to that and that these acts were happening. and so the judge in that sentencing of joel greenberg said this was cooperation that was beyond anything he'd see seen in his 22 years. and that's under seal most of it. the only parts th
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a friend of mine who wrote a similar book called the giftar f fear on the oj simpson killings in trials and he's a security expert. his point is that fear is a useful thing. it's said to be transitory so pc you are in your you see a train coming and you are too close to the tracks you backup. if you see your door is slightly ajar you know you backup. any tag -- take action. if you notice something that you're daughter is having problems and she's not talking to you or physically she has changed her she's lost too much weight or something is going on fears the initial reaction but then you act. you take moves that you normally would not take. there's a man walking on the street p and you were the only other person walking on the street. you cross the street to get your side of the street and we have all experienced the situation which is the instinctive fear but it also tells us in the moment we need to make a change. we need to cross the street ourselves. we need to not presume. one time when i was much younger i was on the left and there were two young men on the street. i was determin
a friend of mine who wrote a similar book called the giftar f fear on the oj simpson killings in trials and he's a security expert. his point is that fear is a useful thing. it's said to be transitory so pc you are in your you see a train coming and you are too close to the tracks you backup. if you see your door is slightly ajar you know you backup. any tag -- take action. if you notice something that you're daughter is having problems and she's not talking to you or physically she has changed...
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i met him during the oj simpson killings and trials and he's a security expert and his point is fear is a useful thing it but it's meant to be trans jittery so if you see your aunt in your car and you see a train coming and you're too close to the tracks, you get afraid and you back up. if you see that your door is slightly ajar and you've been out, you know, to not go in your back up and you take action. if you notice something that is your daughter's having problems and not talking to you or physically she's changed or she's lost too much weight or something's going on. fear is an initial reaction. but then you act, it spurs you to take moves that you normally not take, right? there's a man walking on the street, it's street. you're the only other person walking on the street. he crosses the street to get to your side of the street ladies. i think we all experience a situation where our spidey sense, which is the instinct of fear, but it also tells us in the moment when need to make we need to make a change. we need to cross the street ourselves. we need to not presume. the one tim
i met him during the oj simpson killings and trials and he's a security expert and his point is fear is a useful thing it but it's meant to be trans jittery so if you see your aunt in your car and you see a train coming and you're too close to the tracks, you get afraid and you back up. if you see that your door is slightly ajar and you've been out, you know, to not go in your back up and you take action. if you notice something that is your daughter's having problems and not talking to you or...
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that was that when we similarly with when we talked about the oj simpson case. i hope we will but but this whole idea of sexual harassment of workplace harassment of gender equity of, domestic violence which was a big issue the old simpson case, there were a lot of issues had not been stated before date rape, other came to the fore and there were a lot of you know, pioneering women who were behind that. you you sort of indirectly touched on a subject that is sort of the what i do professionally as being immersed in the world misinformation and lies that what we do at newsguard, which is doing credibility analysis of news information sites, podcasts, tv shows. speak about the links that you discern between the world of misstatements and outright that we are now very familiar sensitive to where we're immersed in them. if you do what we do you wonder sometimes whether you're just throwing a pebble in the ocean whether there's any way to reverse this when elon musk can tweet out total lie but you know something you think he does a total you know misread of something
that was that when we similarly with when we talked about the oj simpson case. i hope we will but but this whole idea of sexual harassment of workplace harassment of gender equity of, domestic violence which was a big issue the old simpson case, there were a lot of issues had not been stated before date rape, other came to the fore and there were a lot of you know, pioneering women who were behind that. you you sort of indirectly touched on a subject that is sort of the what i do professionally...
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>> this is reminiscent of the oj trial from decades ago. >> reporter: before he lost re-election, the l.a. county dchl a. recommended they be resentenced and freed. his successor addressing concerns over the amount of attention the brothers' case is getting. >> menendez get no special treatment. they get equal treatment. >> reporter: supporters, including their family, have argued the public had a different view of sexual abuse 35 years ago. >> public perception of the menendez brother was not one of sympathy. they were viewed as monsters. >> reporter: the brothers have a couple avenues for potential release that lie in the hand of goffin newsome. >> what matters is justice and fairness. >> reporter: it's worth noting that with the new district attorney getting sworn in on december 2nd, next month's resentencing hear cog be postponed if he wants more time to review the case. >> a lot of renewed interest in this case. dana griffin, thanks so much. >> >>> let's get a check of your local weather on this last sunday of november. on like santa rosa and pleasanton. we're also starting on th
>> this is reminiscent of the oj trial from decades ago. >> reporter: before he lost re-election, the l.a. county dchl a. recommended they be resentenced and freed. his successor addressing concerns over the amount of attention the brothers' case is getting. >> menendez get no special treatment. they get equal treatment. >> reporter: supporters, including their family, have argued the public had a different view of sexual abuse 35 years ago. >> public perception of...
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>> it's reminiscent from the oj trial. >> reporter: before he lost re-election, the l.a.nced and freed. successors addressing concerns. >> the menendez get no special treatment, they will get equal treatment. >> reporter: the family saying the public had a different view. >> it was not one of sympathy. they were viewed as monsters. >> reporter: the brothers have a couple avenues for potential release that ultimately lie in the hands of california governor gavin newsom. >> what matters is justice and fairness. >> reporter: it's worth noting that with the new district attorney getting sworn in on december 2nd, next month's resentencing hearing could be postponed if he wants more time to review the case. alex? >> thank you so much. appreciate that.
>> it's reminiscent from the oj trial. >> reporter: before he lost re-election, the l.a.nced and freed. successors addressing concerns. >> the menendez get no special treatment, they will get equal treatment. >> reporter: the family saying the public had a different view. >> it was not one of sympathy. they were viewed as monsters. >> reporter: the brothers have a couple avenues for potential release that ultimately lie in the hands of california governor...
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even if tech nol oj cap advancements are ceos operating in the space like mark zuckerberg say there's a lot of opportunity to build consumer enterprise applications on top of the current technology even if it has plateaued. no computer use, agents and example of new and potential use ca cases, and the only point i make is it could be driving a change in how we think about how we value these a. ci. models and h can we build versus the next jump in technology. >> i still wonder about the ipos that we may ever see. this has been such a slow year. we had a record 2021 and does any of the tinkering in this field tell us that we'll get a busier ipo docket next year or is it unrelated and going to ultimately accrue to the big platforms and so forth? >> it's a good question. i think what we were already starting to see is the chipmakers and some of the application layers that might be easier to value, right? because they're just building on top of the large language models. maybe you'll see more of them, and i think when you think about the open a.i. and the anthropics and how much investment
even if tech nol oj cap advancements are ceos operating in the space like mark zuckerberg say there's a lot of opportunity to build consumer enterprise applications on top of the current technology even if it has plateaued. no computer use, agents and example of new and potential use ca cases, and the only point i make is it could be driving a change in how we think about how we value these a. ci. models and h can we build versus the next jump in technology. >> i still wonder about the...
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there is the oj list where you have people like jack smith that is going to be on top.sts of people that they are going to go after. >> again, this is someone who worked intimately with trump for years. i asked them specifically about if you knew that you said you know it from people yet spoken to. you've got congressman donalds out here claiming there is no enemies list. your thoughts? >> yeah, with respect, i don't think either of them have any idea what donald trump the plans are for the doj, and so, i think we are going to have to wait and see and be vigilant i think there is something that we do know, which is that their definition of uniting the country is just submitting to what maga wants. i mean, uniting the country from vivek's perspective is that you're liberal and needs to be nicer to you now at thanksgiving if you voted for donald trump. and that's -- you know, that is putting the onus on the left to unite. that is not saying they are going to do anything to unite. i didn't hear anything in those clips about how donald trump is planning on bringing akim jef
there is the oj list where you have people like jack smith that is going to be on top.sts of people that they are going to go after. >> again, this is someone who worked intimately with trump for years. i asked them specifically about if you knew that you said you know it from people yet spoken to. you've got congressman donalds out here claiming there is no enemies list. your thoughts? >> yeah, with respect, i don't think either of them have any idea what donald trump the plans are...
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unveiled a more traditional looking plastic bottle, which has also coincidentally cut the amount of ojle from 52oz to 46oz. since the new bottle's release. tropicana sales have dropped 19%. that's the first update since it's clear bottle in 2011 to replace paper cartons. i want to note a special fundraiser happening now in our pop culture lead, the eighth annual homes for our troops celebrity auction. you can bid on amazing items, items and experiences. the money goes to ray to specifically raise, build homes for specially adapted homes mortgage free homes for wounded veterans. this is through the top rated charity homes for our troops. some of the items up for auction this year include george clooney's fancy watch and jennifer aniston's fancy purse, and wolf blitzer's fancy suit. you could see jake gyllenhaal and denzel washington on broadway and othello, christian slater and curse of the starving class with meet and greets after both of those, a lot more check out available items at ebay.com/h o t. that's homes for our troops effort ebay.com
unveiled a more traditional looking plastic bottle, which has also coincidentally cut the amount of ojle from 52oz to 46oz. since the new bottle's release. tropicana sales have dropped 19%. that's the first update since it's clear bottle in 2011 to replace paper cartons. i want to note a special fundraiser happening now in our pop culture lead, the eighth annual homes for our troops celebrity auction. you can bid on amazing items, items and experiences. the money goes to ray to specifically...
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penny's lawyers hired the same jury consultant used by oj's defense. >> we want a fair and impartialjury consultant assists in helping make that decision of who should we get rid of? who won't be fair and impartial with respect to our side of the case? >> reporter: the family of jordan kneely a subway performer known for his michael jackson impersonations said he began struggling with mental illness after his mother was killed when he was 14. >> justice for my family would be for daniel penny to go to prison or to jail. he should never walk around free after the murder, cold blooded murder of my nephew. >> reporter: prosecutors know they have a tough case here, guys. they must convince a jury to convict a former marine of a crime he was not planning to commit. if convicted he could face up to 15 years in prison. guys? >> rebecca: thank you. we turn to the new study on babies and how processed sugar could impact their risk for diabetes and high blood pressure later in life. erielle reshef is here with details. this comes with november being national diabetes month. as a mom of an almo
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caller: the left calling trump a felon is a lot like oj calling nicole scarface. they caused it.f the big factors is we will not allow america to become the soviet union. you can, you can indict political opponents, you can convict them. you can try to kill them, but we will not stand for it, we will not allow it. there's a lot of reasons, you know, to vote for trump and i'm ready for him to get to work and build a legacy. we just won't stand for it anymore. host: in michigan, this is frank. democrats line. frank in michigan, hello? one more time for frank. caller: hello? host: ok, we will go to michael in nevada, independent line, go ahead. caller: thank you for taking my call. in the near future, when the convicted illegal aliens are going to be removed and returned to their origin of country, some of these countries will refuse to take them. especially the murderers, rapists, kidnappers, and all of the, the fentanyl distributors. when they, when they, when the plane flies over that part of the country, if they refuse to let the plane land, then the, it's an act of kindness, th
caller: the left calling trump a felon is a lot like oj calling nicole scarface. they caused it.f the big factors is we will not allow america to become the soviet union. you can, you can indict political opponents, you can convict them. you can try to kill them, but we will not stand for it, we will not allow it. there's a lot of reasons, you know, to vote for trump and i'm ready for him to get to work and build a legacy. we just won't stand for it anymore. host: in michigan, this is frank....
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possibly but i knew a producer, a guy named brad simpson, who had done a series, the people versus ojs raised in northern ireland, irish catholic. she said, her brothers were all members of the ira and they never told her 4-foot 11 mother because they feared her more than the ira. >> say nothing. >> it was a way of life. it was a battle for what they believe was their very soul. >> and i think part of what we are trying to do in the series is show, what with the circumstances be like for you if you are a young person in your teens or early 20s and living in a system where you think there is a lot of oppression and injustice and a very deeply divided society and suddenly it flips over into violence and what you do? and to take the long view of that. it starts as a thriller and it will end is a tragedy and we are trying to reckon with the cost of that kind of radical politics. >> can you give us a little bit of a sense of what this means in history and sort of the lessons from this? >> you have this interesting situation in northern ireland. six counties on the island of ireland which a
possibly but i knew a producer, a guy named brad simpson, who had done a series, the people versus ojs raised in northern ireland, irish catholic. she said, her brothers were all members of the ira and they never told her 4-foot 11 mother because they feared her more than the ira. >> say nothing. >> it was a way of life. it was a battle for what they believe was their very soul. >> and i think part of what we are trying to do in the series is show, what with the circumstances...